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The Best Thing That Trump Has Done So Far

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On Thursday, the U.S. House of Representatives finally approved a bill that would repeal and replace significant portions of the law that created Obamacare.  But it was a very close vote.  On Donald Trump’s 105th day in the White House, 217 members of the House voted in favor of the bill, and 213 members of the House voted against the bill.  Of course “Trumpcare” is far from perfect, and it actually does very little to fix our rapidly failing healthcare system, but the reason why this is the best thing that Trump has done so far is because this bill would greatly reduce federal funding for Planned Parenthood.  But first this bill must get through the Senate before it can become law, and that is looking extremely doubtful at this point.  In fact, The Hill is reporting that one Republican Senator has said that this bill has less than a 20 percent chance of succeeding in the Senate…

A senior GOP senator said the chances of getting 51 votes for legislation based on the House healthcare bill are less than 1 in 5.

The senator also put the chances that the House bill will meet Senate budgetary rules preventing a filibuster at less than 1 in 5, meaning portions of the legislation would have to be removed.

Lawmakers are keeping quiet about their concerns because they want to help Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), whose job they fear may be in jeopardy if the House fails again to approve an ObamaCare repeal bill.

Yes, I know that Trump and the Republicans in the House were greatly celebrating on Thursday, but there really isn’t anything to celebrate yet.

The Senate is probably going to come up with an entirely different version of this legislation, and it is likely to look far different from the bill that just passed the House.

If a bill of some sort can actually get through the Senate, and that is a huge “if”, then an attempt would be made to reconcile the differences between the two bills, and then the final version would be submitted to both the House and the Senate for an up or down vote.

The problem is that the Senate is not going to pass anything like the version that the House just came up with, and conservatives in the House are likely to balk at anything that the Senate comes up with.

So please don’t think that an Obamacare repeal is a done deal.

The truth is that it probably is not going to happen any time soon.

But for the moment, I am going to applaud President Trump and House Republicans for doing something right.  I have been very tough on them in recent weeks, and rightly so, but when they do something good I am certainly going to give them the praise that they are due.

The bill that the House just passed would greatly reduce federal funding for Planned Parenthood, and that fact alone more than makes up for all of the other flaws in it.  The following comes from CNS News

The American Health Care Act—the Obamacare repeal-and-replace bill that the House of Representatives passed by a 217-to-213 vote this afternoon–will temporarily and significantly reduce, but not eliminate, federal funding for Planned Parenthood.

The bill will prevent Planned Parenthood from receiving funding through “mandatory” federal funding streams—primarily Medicaid—for exactly one calendar year after the president signs it.

But it does not prevent Planned Parenthood from getting “discretionary” funding through the Title X family planning program.

It is just for one year, which is far from ideal, but at least for 12 months Planned Parenthood would see their funding go down by hundreds of millions of dollars

The pro-life bill would eliminate more than $390 million (over 86%) of over $450 million in annual federal funding to Planned Parenthood, from all mandatory spending programs. The measure also redirects funding to community health centers which outnumber Planned Parenthood facilities 20 to 1 and offer a wider array of health care services, but not abortion.

Of course this is one of the provisions in the bill that some Republicans in the Senate want to eliminate.

It is extremely unlikely that any bill that even defunds Planned Parenthood in part will ever get through the Senate, but Trump should make an all-out effort to get this accomplished anyway.

And if Republican leadership can somehow get a bill through the Senate and signed into law that at least significantly reduces federal funding for Planned Parenthood, I will officially take back all of the negative things that I have said about the Republicans so far this year.

This week President Trump also signed a landmark executive order that does a great deal to protect religious liberty

The order, signed during a ceremony in the White House Rose Garden, directs the Internal Revenue Service to exercise “maximum enforcement discretion” over the so-called Johnson amendment, which prevents churches and other tax-exempt religious organizations from endorsing or opposing political candidates. The order also provides “regulatory relief” for organizations that object on religious grounds to a provision in Obamacare that mandates employers provide certain health services, including coverage for contraception.

All Americans, including Christians, should be free to express their political beliefs without fearing repercussions from the federal government.  The Johnson Amendment was probably always unconstitutional, and that is one of the reasons why it has never really been enforced.  Congress should go even farther and completely repeal it, and hopefully that will happen someday.

So once again I want to take this opportunity to applaud Trump for doing something right.  This is a good executive order, although it doesn’t quite go far enough.  A major war against people of faith is being waged by very powerful forces in this country, and I am thankful for a president that is at least trying to keep some of the heat off of our backs.

I tend to get criticized by both the pro-Trump and anti-Trump camps because I try to be objective.

When our politicians do things that are wrong, I am going to say that they are wrong.

And when our politicians do things that are right, I am going to say that they are right.

We lose credibility when we act as cheerleaders for politicians that are “on our side” no matter what they say or do.

In our society today, there is a desperate need for people that are willing to think critically and that are willing to cling objectively to the truth.

Because once we let go of the truth we are all in trouble…

  • A.S.

    If this is the best thing Trump has done so far in just over 100 days, G-d help us! No wall, war in NK, war in Syria, more bubbles about to burst which nothing is being done to stop or make it less painful, etc. I voted for Trump and he let me down majorly. At the very least defund Planned Parenthood forever on a national level and start with reversing Roe v Wade. My personal Trump approval rating so far is 10%. At least it is way better than my personal rating of Obama which was -99% (the one extra from being a perfect -100% is just because he knew how to read cards well).

    • A.S.

      Trump, if you build the wall, find better options in NK and Syria, reverse Roe v Wade, defund Planned Parenthood, completely kill Obamacare with that one sentence bill some Rep wrote (I forget his name), put in prison everyone from Wallstreet who is making the bubbles, bring back good jobs, then I will give you a 80% rating. I hope you can accomplish all of this in your first year!

    • SnodtBlossom

      Screw you

    • Trump Fooled You All

      Honest to God, what the hell is a freaking wall going to do? You do realize the government are the ones letting a lot of the illegals in and majority of them come here via airplanes. GTFO of here with this wall BS

      • Arthur Wholeflaffers

        Don’t argue with a Trump supporter, they do not use facts, data or logic. It’s a complete and utter waste of time.

  • Carl

    Yeah that’s why trump did it to get rid of abortions. Not even close.

    So all those christians who are against abortion need to keep quiet about taking care of and paying the bills for all those poor people and those with preexisting conditions because all life is valuable and you should treat it as such. Not just babies. All life. This means they should be against all of trumps wars and the coming one with North Korea. Murder is murder is it not?

    • RedPillPlease

      Did you take your meds today Carl?

      • Carl

        My point redpill is that you can’t say we don’t want human beings killed in the womb and then condemn living people in society for their poverty or lot in life. Why is the unborn valued to many but the living looked at as a burden and inconvenience? The way to stop abortion is to start valuing the lives already living and breathing on this planet. Only when people value each other will they stop having abortions.

        • RedPillPlease

          “Why is the unborn valued to many but the living looked at as a burden and inconvenience?”
          Where does this come from Carl? Were you aware that taxpayers have thrown more than a trillion dollars at poverty since 1965? Poverty is rewarded in this country which is why so many are trapped in it! Your point just doesn’t jive with reality, especially trying to compare someone living life with those who were given no chance.

          • phil stein

            “Poverty is rewarded in this country”: you made me puke…Give up your house and go try to feed your family with a 9$ an hour job, then we’ll talk again if poverty is rewarded

          • Carl

            I agree phil and unless you are in that situation a person does not have any understanding as to what that means. The level of stress it puts on a person day after day.

            Ironically people say that minimum wage jobs are supposed to be for teenagers or college students. That adults should all be in higher paying jobs and if they are not then they need to get a degree or go back to school to get said high paying job.

            The problem with this is that there are only a limited number of these jobs and the competition for these jobs is crazy. Most of the time people get jobs because of who they know not what they know. So if you don’t have a network you are SOL on the job front.

            Ironically no one mentions the parasitic nature of dentists, chiropracters, etc who need customers continuous visits just to survive and make ends meet.

            Not to mention when you take your car into the shop you get charged for labor but the parts are marked up 3-4 times what the mechanic pays for them.

            So our system is based on screwing over someone in some shape or form in order to survive. The ones that know this and can do it well are the ones who have the money and who do not have to try to scrape by to make ends meet.

          • GSOB

            We’re all gonna die.

          • socalbeachdude

            In the long run, everyone is dead.

          • GSOB

            John 11:25-26

          • socalbeachdude

            Actually, the best thing outside of American capitalism is federal/state WELFARE…


            The Average US Welfare Payment Puts You In The Top 20% Of All Income Earners


          • Cut n paste king

            Wow you are getting good at cutting and pasting. Do u have any original thoughts moron?

          • socalbeachdude

            You apparently can’t even read and/or comprehend straightforward English, dude.

          • phil stein

            You’re a piece of sh** really… this is extreme fake news . Average welfare (from this article) is 25$ a day. TRY TO LIVE WITH 25$ A DAY YOU PIECE OF SH**

          • Carl

            If throwing money at the problem could solve the issue of poverty then we wouldn’t have poverty would we? I am not advocating just giving away money but rather teaching people to be self sufficient. The government way is to encourage abuse of the system, thus making those who legitimately need help to be lumped into this group.

            Just giving people money is never a solution. But when I hear people say that health care is not a right or having at least the basic of necessities it makes me angry. Why does everything in this world have to be about scarcity and about money?

          • William Lutz

            Redpill you should know what Carl is talking about. What he’s referring to is that if the right cares about the right a lot, they should also start advocating for dignity and assistance to the unfortunate and marginalized. In other words, pro lifers ought to also be more thoughtful in regards to people living in hard conditions and support such programs that lift them out of poverty. Carl and I aren’t advocating for unconditional welfare or government freebies, but we think it’s unacceptable that the unborn are so specially revered while people born in hardship are dismissed in society as nobodies. The lives of the born are just as important as those of the unborn.

          • RedPillPlease

            Just come out and say it, both of you are socialists. Carl already said health care (the term ignorant people use for unconstitutional government insurance programs) should be a right. In other words, the government should continue to operate as a charitable enforcement organization, forcing citizens to cough up more money to subsidize the medical expenses of others. The end game of such an elaborate con will eventually destroy our medical industry, in fact, it already is and just one step away from the communistic single-payer disaster. Anything the government gets its hands on turn to ruin and I n less than 20 years, the entire system will be one giant VA hospital, like what Fannie Mae did for the home financial system.

          • socalbeachdude

            Where do you come up with your nonsense?

          • Carl

            If you don’t think health care should be a right Mr. Red Pill do you believe that a person with a serious medical condition or ailment that they cannot afford to pay to treat should be allowed to go to the doctor or a clinic and obtain a pill that allows them to kill themselves?

            Wouldn’t that be the kinder option than to force people to suffer both physically and economically because they were denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition or because they can’t afford the 1000% chargemaster rates that hospitals are allowed to bill uninsured patients?

            The government did ruin healthcare. You can all thank the republican hero Ronald Regan for that.

            Trumpcare, obamacare and any other plans they offer will NOT reign in the disgusting display of capitalism gone wild that is the medical billing system. It is a disgrace.

          • William Lutz

            You’re darn right I’m a socialist. Wrong! I’m a social democratic populist. I fully support the Nordic Model that’s practiced in Scandinavia. There ought to be state of the art universal health care, free K-12 and higher education, secure and stable employment for all, and a Robin Hood tax. At the same time, however, I’m against open borders, imperialism, and free trade.

          • RedPillPlease

            I misjudged you, you’re just a frigging goofball!

          • Carl

            Couldn’t have said it better myself Mr. Lutz. There are some that truly just need a helping hand and are not trying to game the system.

            Unfortunately many times these people fall through the cracks because of how said system is setup.

            It is almost like they really don’t want people to get out of poverty or a bad situation when they are down that deep hole.

            Many people are not strong enough mentally to pull themselves out of that hole depending on life’s circumstances.

            For everyone one your hear that has done it there are many more that are still in the hole. Some like being there and others hate it but see no other way out.

            Not everyone knows they have options and choices.

      • Carl’s on Meth

        Yes he is as high as a kite

        • socalbeachdude

          What utterly bogus and false nonsense.

    • JC Teecher

      Nope. Killing for the protection of a tribe’s/nation’s/country’s safety and defense, is allowable by the Creator. In those cases it is not deemed as murder.

      Case in point; if a gang of thugs comes to your house, throwing rocks and breaking your windows, and then says “Carl, come out or we are coming in to kill your mangy azz,” and they start shooting up your house, killed your kids dog, and shot up your vehicle; would you not have the right to defend yourself and your property?
      Would you not then pull out a weapon and shoot every last one of then?
      Would you then say that you are guilty of murder?
      Would you then blame God cause He allowed it to happen? Probably so, but no court in the land would find you guilty of murder, as it would be seen as self defense.

      If NK keeps up with their threats, and eventually lobs a intercontinental ballistic nuke in your neighborhood, but miraculously you survived the blast to only start slowly dying of radioactive material exposure, I bet you have a different opinion about bombing the pizz out of NK’s facilities, and accept the casualties of their citizens.

      1Ti 5:8
      “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
      This scripture includes providing of security and protection from all and any threats, for the family.
      So goes it for the US Military and providing protection from “any and all threats”.
      Get real Carl and climb out of the fog of delusion.

    • Arthur Wholeflaffers

      In an ironic twist, those who are against abortions are the very people who should’ve been aborted!!!

  • socalbeachdude

    Just how many times has the House passed a “repeal of Obamascare?” The answer is now about 51 or 52 times!!!

    AHCA: The House Voted to Repeal Obamacare More Than 50 Times..

    • Jill

      Neither ideological side wants it gone. It was ‘repealed’ only when it was certain not to be signed by the President and nothing more than a fundraising tool. Power and control, once granted, are rarely ever ceded back to the people.

  • socalbeachdude

    Medical expense insurance companies WILL NOT AGREE TO PARTICIPATE AT ALL in this nonsense unless they can do PROPER UNDERWRITING and eliminate GUARANTEED LOSSES such as people with pre-existing conditions.

    The lack of proper sound and reasonable underwriting is what is causing the TOTAL FAILURE OF OBAMASCARE and violates all principles of insurance which are based on the RISK OF LOSS.

  • socalbeachdude
  • RedPillPlease

    If this GOP Scam Bill actually makes it to the president’s desk and Trump signs it, I’m betting the Dems own both chambers of Congress come 2018 and a new sheriff will be in town by 2020. This bill is nothing but an Obamacare facelift that involves “replacing mandates, subsidies and penalties with more mandates, subsidies and penalties.” Once the American people find out what’s really inside this scam, they are going be angered and fed up completely!

    • Carl

      The changing from republican to democrat in 2018 will do nothing to change the situation for most Americans.

      Free is not really free. Someone always pays for it.

      Even those who get supposed freebies from the system lose. Though it may not look like it on the outside.

      I pity those who are on the government till because while we are all in chains to this economic landscape they are the ones with the chain wrapped so tight around their very spirits most will never recover if this system persists.

      Their only hope and ours too is that the system crashes. All of it.

      We have been sold a lie from our parents, their parents all of society. However, most will defend the present system with their last breath.

      And even those who want to change the system want to still keep the basic tent poles of said system. Same as with the republicans and trumpcare.

      Change is needed but to most people that is scary and they will fight tooth and nail to keep what is comfortable even if it means they are sealing their fate for the very system they want to stop.

      • GSOB

        The only thing you can change is your hair.

        • Guest

          What? Read Matthew 5:36.

          • SnodtBlossom

            there is no god

        • Carl

          And your mind. And your underwear. And your shirt. And your pants. And your socks. And your shoes. LOL.

    • socalbeachdude

      Correct, but this stupid bill has ZERO CHANCE of ever clearing through the Senate where it is totally DOA.

  • David

    You totally fell for the overton window. It’s still socialized medicine. Will be forever. Trump ran on repealing, not replacing. Now all the sheeple are happy with a little less government control. Incrimentalism. Going to become communist sloooowly. Good luck with that.

  • David

    By the way, where is socialized medicine in the constitution…I guess I missed that amendment.

    • Ricardo

      socialized medicine is where they take ALL the drugs and put them in a big vat and stir it all together. But they won’t want to do that because then it means they will all have to receive equal share of the profits and corporations don’t want to do that. However when it comes to “the people” ….well that is a different matter. Everybody should share so we have a fair and social planet to live on …… according to those in control.

  • Big Red

    While this is a small step in the right direction it still has the govt and taxpayers spending Billions annually to subsidize Healthcare. Healthcare and Insurance should be decided by the free market.

    • socalbeachdude

      This latest nonsense has ZERO CHANCE of ever passing in the US Senate.

    • illusion

      The free market in this country is guided by lobbyists and political campaign contributions.

    • none

      My question is simpler.
      If we didn’t have abortion, would we still be able to take all those refugees in?

  • Lennie Pike

    You are more objective than I, and unlike me give the benefit of the doubt – and then some, but I am now 100% convinced that Trump like many Presidents before him is a frontman for globalists who hate the principles of the U.S. Constitution and must destroy the United States in order to rule the world.

    Trump is yet another puppet whether he knows he is or not that has the qualities to fool the American People just as Obama had. The people behind the curtain pulling the strings are not stupid and know how to pick them and manipulate them if necessary.

    And I apologize – you are a very intelligent man – but they have taken complete control – voting means nothing, the American People were lied to and fooled yet again – they did not vote for what they got, and in no way was that their fault.

  • fuquedup

    This country is fuqued

    • Truth b real

      With people like Carl and cutnpastecaldude yes it is a fuqued up place. You can see it in the meaningless words they post.

      • socalbeachdude

        What an utterly stupid and totally bogus assertion.

      • Carl

        Actually what is meaningless is christians ike yourself who pray for this country. Newsflash your prayers are going unanswered. Always have and always will.

        • JC Teecher

          In one respect, you do make a valid point.
          A lot of prayers with vague and general coverage is basically meaning less for the world as a whole, because the world as a whole is broken and evil.
          God forewarned of the continual self destruction, and people have not learned from the mistakes of their ancestors.
          It will continue to become worse and worse, as a planet of sinners.
          However; as delusional, as many American Christians are, they still believe in a Divine Creator and His Son the Saviour. With those prayers being sincerely prayed in Jesus name, for this nation/country, they are heard and God has intervened with not a Saviour, but with an improvement in leadership.
          A leader that has so far tried to do what he said in his campaign, he would do.
          I really don’t care that much about the political grandstanding and the insiders game, because i can’t change any of that, butl what I do care about is Christian rights based on the First amendment, and God’s governing laws based on the Ten Commandments of the Bible.
          Moral issues that have an impact on our daily lives as a once moral majority in America. It is gradually slipping away, but we as Christians are supposed to stand firm and not give another inch to the corrupt and evil agenda of the left. If; through Trump, we can gain back a quarter of an inch at a time away from the liberal agenda, then great for us.

  • socalbeachdude


    After all that heartburn! Now the Senate WON’T consider voting on the House bill to replace Obamacare – and insists on writing its own

    An aide to a senior Republican House leader says Speaker Paul Ryan is ‘hopeful, but not naive’ about the possibility of the Senate adapting his chamber’s legislation instead of starting over.

    • LittleBee

      May I please ask you four questions:

      Why do you cut, paste, and post here? Why use bold letters? What is the point of it? What are you trying to prove?

      • huththa

        That was five questions.

      • socalbeachdude

        Is there something you don’t understand about that important article confirming that the Senate will not even look at this House bill? Really? Seriously?

      • Arthur Wholeflaffers

        The poor guy does not have any social life whatsoever, and feels an urgent need to be somebody, anybody. Even if it is posting on a site that isn’t used that much.

  • Adolphusw

    The democrats are between a rock and a hard place. On one hand they know Obamacare is collapsing rapidly and after all it is called Obama-care. It currently belongs lock, stock and barrel to the democrat party.

    Recent calls for republicans to “fix” or “tweak” it are basically falling on deaf ears, the American people know its currently democrat-care.

    So, do the dems really want to filibuster and just further claim this current boondoggle or do they want to punt it off to the republicans whose own current plan is still socialistic and doomed for failure itself?

    Interesting. Is their hatred of Trump, Republicans and America greater than fear for their own political survival? We are dealing with lunatic liberals, so it’s not clear just how this will play out.

    • socalbeachdude

      Very good questions!

    • JC Teecher

      Wisely spoken.

  • Mike Molyneaux

    According to numerous passages of Scripture, Israel’s God protects His obedient people from disease and heals them; but afflicts rebels with plagues, disease and pain. Is the Healthcare Bill required because God is now dead?

    • socalbeachdude


    • Carl

      Sorry this is just more lies from your b-i-b-l-e

      • JC Teecher

        Why do you care?

    • sister soldier

      God is alive forever more but the healthcare bill could very well be our modern day plague.

  • john

    a wall will not stop north korean missiles loaded with TNT or nuclear…

    GET A CLUE !!!

    • socalbeachdude

      Huh? The wall was never intended to deal with that.

  • Bruce

    The whole thing is a farce. Politics as a whole is a scam perpetrated by people who only have their own best interest in mind. Listen people, we are screwed! No matter who is in office. Take the budget mess last week for instance. It was and is the perfect storm scenario. If they didn’t pass some type of resolution to continue funding then many would have been furloughed. Many government services would have been unavailable. But, they found a temporary solution and now we are deeper in debt.
    Soon they will back at it again trying to find a way to essentially screw the people once again. There is NO question in my mind that we will be up to or past the 24 Trillion dollar mark by the end of Trumps first term. 24 Trillion is the amount that Trump himself said is the point of no return. Yes, the can has been kicked down the road again and soon we will run out of road!
    It doesn’t matter if it’s Obamacare or Trump care, neither of them will work. Hospitals are ripping the masses off. No way in hell can they even come close to justifying what they are charging. Yet, nothing is done. Why, because they send millions to politicians in the form of political campaigns. When the Supreme court said that corporations are essentially people and they can financially support candidates then that was opening up Pandoras box.
    Can the public not see that we are facing a LONG list of problems and all of them could wipe us out financially or even as mankind!

    • socalbeachdude

      100% correct, Bruce.

    • sister soldier

      It was my understanding that the continuing resolution was from the 2016 budget and that it could not be continued any longer but needed to be replaced with a new approved budget so I’m not sure what congress is doing at this point. And…… we still don’t know exactly what they have agreed on concerning the budget. It’s all job security for them which is why they keep up the momentum of constant pandemonium.

      • socalbeachdude

        The only issue was the FEDERAL DEBT CEILING LIMIT which either needed to be substantially increased or again suspended so that the US TREASURY COULD ISSUE ABOUT $1 TRILLION MORE IN US TREASURIES to fund the government.

      • Bruce

        You are correct about the 2016 budget and the continuing resolution. It was my understanding that the deal that was reached with Speaker No “Brainer” made an extension unavailable. Therefore, I do not know how they did what they did. But, the government always seems to do that don’t they?

    • illusion

      I want to thank the “Donald” for potentially raising my healthcare premiums by roughly $100 for coverage I cannot afford. The medical industrial complex in this country is one large scam. This whole Obamacare charade was written by healthcare industry lobbyists for the healthcare industry.

      • socalbeachdude

        Hospitals and pharmaceutical companies who are MASSIVELY PRICE GOUGING are the core problem and until and unless that issue is addressed there will be no solution whatsoever to the medical expense matters in the USA.

    • Arthur Wholeflaffers

      Hogwash. The economy is humming along, there are plenty of well-paying jobs and the government could help a lot more than they are doing. The debt means nothing since it can never be paid back and it never will. The debt can grow to infinite, forever. And who do we owe the debt to anyway, the owners of everything. Don’t sweat it, the country is in great shape!!!

      • Jill

        Correct. Wiemar America will enjoy the successes of other nations who haven’t let debt and deficits trouble them, such as Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

  • JC Teecher

    Good morning, ECB ers! It is Friday May 5th the first day for the rest of your lives. One small step for mankind was accomplished with the House finally coming together on something, even though it is far from perfect, and far from finalized.

    According to the liberals and hard core critics, there will now be a mass die off of people that are kicked off healthcare insurance programs, .ha,ha ha.
    What a load of crap. Then they say well, if they don’t die, millions will have higher cost and it will become too expensive to even own a policy.
    All lies from the left.

    But have no fear, it is not a done deal, and in it’s current form, probably never will be. The partial de-funding of Planned non Parenthood, will most likely be stricken down by the Senate if it is able to be reformed enough to pass at all. Time will tell, but the passage by the House, is a small step in the right direction and a small victory for D J Trump. Without his persistence, it could not have happened.

    What is also important, is the matter of the Repubs that reneged on supporting the small first step in getting behind the potus and the majority of the American people.
    Twenty repubs have just shown their true colors by siding with all the liberals, in defiance of the “will of the people”, to try and stop the passage. The majority of those twenty, have proven they are in this for the money and power, and not for working for the will of the people.
    Their districts are leaning leftists, and to appease the majority of their voters, they are leaning leftist, but in reality, they are just goats/donkeys, of another color.

    When all their names are revealed, they should be shamed for their positions and then voted out of office. The American taxpayers should not have to put up with backstabbers and liars, as they have proven they are in politics for themselves entirely.

    • Carl

      What exactly is the difference between the 2 bills other than getting rid of the health insurance requirement?

      If you opt not to get coverage then decide to get the coverage the premiums will be more than likely unaffordable.

      It does nothing to reign in costs and having a 10,000 deductible before insurance will kick in is like having a high deductible catastrophic plan without the lower payment that this coverage afforded.

      The average american is still the loser with this as hospitals will not be reigned in for the high costs.

      I am for people having health insurance coverage. All people. I believe it is a right that all should have. But this system we have setup to financially benefit parasitic health insurance companies – which in turn creates an environment ripe for hospitals and the like to charge even more for their services is just rotten to the core.

      Until we remove health insurance companies from the equation – health care will never come down in cost.

      This can also be seen with the rising cost of college tuition which in part received government monies also.

      When will people wise up? The insurance companies love the new trumpcare for it gives them unbridled power to raise costs.

      Not to mention people will no longer get pre-paid subsidies (from what I have read) and will have to front the entire premium up front and then get back a paltry sum when they file their taxes – someone correct me on this if I am wrong.

      • JC Teecher

        What you and other people do not understand, is that the system was not all that broken, before the liberals and insurance lobby got a commander -n- thief (odrama) in the People’s House. All that was needed was some Federal Mandates to put caps on what could be charged by Hospitals and make it mandatory for all Doctors to accept Medicare/Medicaid with no restrictions on getting paid for services.
        There was inadequate oversight.

        The most important thing for people to consider is that Health Insurance Coverage is not a right for everyone, but an option. Free Medical care for everyone is not a right. When it is subsidized by taxpayers, for everyone, then it becomes nothing more than socialized medicine, and the free market system becomes unfair.

        If the gov is going to become a subsidizer of medical insurance programs, then basic healthcare should be available for everyone without interference by Insurance Companies.
        Gov should provide basic medical needs for all it’s legal citizens, and then Insurance Programs should be available for purchase across state lines for those that want upgrades to their medical care, via Cadillac Plans, or even Volkswagen Plans. Then the free Market could operate without interference by gov mandates and subsidies.
        Keep mandates on Hospitals and Doctors to accept Medicare/Medicaid for basic healthcare, with maximum charges for each service provided.

        But; this type of a more fair system will never be available, because politicians and Insurance Companies have a nice little con game going on, with kick backs.

        • Carl

          So if you believe that health care and access to medical treatment is not a right then why is euthanasia not a right?

          Because by making health care so expensive you are basically giving people a death warrant or a life of pain and suffering due to whatever medical condition they may have (or a surgery they need but since it is non life threatening the hospitals can demand payment in full before the surgery will take place).

          Ironic that you are against abortion but do not believe that every living person deserves health care – which you need health insurance in order to be able to afford it.

          Are we all so blinded by the anti-communism mantra that we can’t see that it is indecent to allow people to suffer when you have a surgical procedure or medicine that can help that person?

          • JC Teecher

            “So if you believe that health care and access to medical treatment is not a right then why is euthanasia not a right?”

            Hey, obi wan, put down the pipe, of whatever it is you are smoking, and learn to read correctly and with comprehension.
            I never said health care and access to medical treatment was not a right.

            I said, health “Insurance Coverage” is not a right, for “everyone.” I said, “free” medical care is not a right, for “everyone”.

            Free Health Insurance, at least for the basic care necessities, and especially for children, the disabled, and elderly, should be free if these groups do not have adequate incomes above the poverty level.
            Free Medical Care should be available for those that can’t afford it, even beyond the basic necessities plans.
            In these situations I do believe it should be a right, but only for these groups of peoples. Got it?

            the gov; via taxpayer dollars, should not be subsidizing Insurance Co premiums for folks that have the money to afford it. If a person wants Cadillac Care Insurance, then they should not be trying to buy it on a Volkswagen budget, and then be expecting taxpayers to pick up the tab on the remainder of the premiums.

          • Carl

            Baloney Teecher. Without health insurance those above the poverty level cannot afford the chargemaster rates charged if they do not have insurance. Maybe you should go into politics because you sure talk a good game.

            Free medical care is available it is called medicaid numnutz but this is for really low income people and those above that threshold fall through the cracks.

            Self employed and those who work less than full time cannot afford health insurance rates that are not lower because they have no negotiating power.

            You are trying to justify a corrupt and immoral system. That is being continued by trump and his crony republicans.

            Why can’t people be allowed to go to their doctor and get a euthanasia pill to die if they cannot afford treatment and don’t want to bankrupt their family with a prolonged illness?

            And don’t tell me because all human life is valuable.

            Because if it was there would be no argument that health care and being able to get affordable health insurance to cover yourself and your family should be a right.

            But I forgot christians only care about the unborn and once you are born it is a big FU and survival of the have and have nots begins.

            The whole system is rotten to the core and you know deep down it is. You just are so brainwashed with USA capitalist nonsense u can’t see it for what it is.

          • JC Teecher

            I expected no less than nonsense from you. You think all people are created equal, and that all are entitled to all free stuff on the backs of the workers.
            You fit right into the liberal socialists agenda like the young and dumb Bernie Sanders supporters.
            Life does not work that way, or at least not for long. You loose, obi wan.

          • Carl

            You do realize the system we have right now does not benefit the average person. That we are the ones being sold a lie and most buy into it. Until something happens and their eyes are opened to how things really work.

            But it is OK for corporations to get “free” stuff on the backs of the taxpayers.

            It’s OK for politicians to make laws to benefit themselves and their friends.

            It’s OK for some people to follow the rules while others are given exemptions?

        • SnodtBlossom

          JCT’s wife wants to leave him

    • LittleBee

      Agreed, 100%

  • Joe

    What has the government and the government officials done for us? Not a blasted thing.

    • huththa

      What about the roads?

    • socalbeachdude

      They’ve done FAR TOO MUCH which is precisely the reason that the federal government is running a $1.4 trillion a year federal deficit. People can either start paying $1 trillion a year more in federal taxes or can start facing $1 trillion a year or so in federal spending cuts.

  • Patriot Alice

    Every President has a learning curve for the first few months. Trump never held office before, so give him time, I’m sure your premature judgement of him, isn’t the only premature thing about you. 🙂

  • Jeff Pearce Sr.

    Of course never put political posturing aside. Disclaimer: the Govt has no business in healthcare period. To whatever degree it was screwed up before Ovomitcare you can bet your last dollar it was the govt that screwed it up. Back to posturing. Congress knows damn well it would not likely pass the Senate. Hence… posturing. Much like congress sent a full repeal bill to Ovomit in the past knowing full well he would veto it. Once they got both houses and the Executive, they panicked. This is the result of the panic. Eventually all health crap will collapse and they will have their full on socialist single payer because they just have so much compassion for the unwashed masses.

    • JC Teecher

      “Ovomitcare” is a good word for it.

      In the 3000 pages, there is enough loopholes and twisted mumbo jumbo, to legally kill off 2/3 rds of the USSAG population. It was written that way so as to look like a plan from liberals that supposedly “care” about citizens.
      In all actuality, it was designed so the gov could have more control over it’s citizens, and in some cases kill of a segment of poor and disable peoples. Useless eaters as they are known to the elites.


    like it or not, but because of changing demographics and political realities single payer socialized healthcare is inevitable and it’s much closer to it’s implementation than you think , eventually it will become global healthcare so get those death panels cranked up

    • sister soldier

      There is some truth to your school of thought.

    • socalbeachdude

      And just where do you think the trillions will come to pay for that BUT FOR RADICALLY HIGHER TAXES. A family would need to be charged about $25,000 per year for that kind of medical expense plan. Are you not aware of that?

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        raise taxes as high as they are in Scandinavian countries and cut back on quality healthcare unless you can afford private insurance but you will have single payer insurance in name only

  • JC Teecher

    Last Saturday, we had some friends over for a bonfire, and to partake of some barbecued brisket that I smoked all day over oak chips. While the ladies were gone out to the bug out cabin, the guys began talking about Trump. I listened as one said he was afraid that trump was going to take us into war. i thought, where have you been for the past 30 years, we have been at war, and now trump is the one getting the blame, but I said nothing, (if you can believe that, lol).

    Another man said that he sure hoped Trump did not repeal obomacare.
    Before i could respond, another said “why”?
    The man responded with this:
    “as ya’ll know, I retired from my 40 years as a Service Manager, about six months ago. My health insurance costs more than doubled to over $700.00 each month for just me. It had already went from a $2500.00 deductible about ten years ago, to $5000,00 over the past three years or so. As I went from a pretty good salary, to a fixed and much lower income, I just could not afford it any longer and looked at options.”
    I asked, “what did you find out?”
    His reply. “there are none, as far as any other insurance providers for this area. But; I did sign up with the same Insurance Company under obamacare, and the gov paid for half of my monthly premiums. hell, that is like another $350.00 in my pocket each month.”

    Now, I thought, but did not say anything, as these guys are true friends that will drop anything they are doing and come to help me if i ask. I would never do anything, or say anything to offend a friend like that, Christian or not, because they are hard to come by.

    But, I thought, why are the taxpayers handing out, basically, a cash payment to a very well off man, that is probably worth over a million dollars. Where is the fairness in that? Why should the gov subsidize what I see is almost a Cadillac plan, for someone that doesn’t actually have to have it. I guess all of us would like to receive a $350.00 per month cash benefit for being able to afford an expensive Health care Insurance plan.

    • Carl

      “But, I thought, why are the taxpayers handing out, basically, a cash
      payment to a very well off man, that is probably worth over a million

      Our government hands out tax payer dollars to corporations, foreign countries and the like. Why not give it to the actual tax payers instead? Plus if this guy is worth a million dollars chances are it is on paper, otherwise he would not qualify for the premiums he receives under obamacare. And depending on his age more than likely he will soon be on the taxpayer dole with medicare because after a certain age you have to go on that there are no other plans.

  • socalbeachdude

    REVEALED: How Obamacare repeal bill will be dramatically changed when Senate Republicans start working in it

    GOP lawmakers want to amend provisions that halt the Obamacare-initiated expansion of Medicaid in 2020 and limit subsidies for Americans between the ages of 50 and 65.

  • Richard O. Mann

    At this time it’s just a dog and pony show anyhow. America has gone too far down the toilet to ever become what it once was. The funding of Planned Parenthood really is a moot point. We have gone far beyond that with same sex marriage becoming a constitutional right, and now the push for the acceptance of gender confusion as being the same. A right. Once countries get this far out in their beliefs they usually don’t last very long thereafter. For the most point, our leaders are being controlled by a reprobate mind, and that means the country itself no longer knows spiritual right from wrong. Nothing the President, Congress, or the people for matter, can do will change the direction this country is heading. Wish I had hope for this country, but history is against any hope I could muster up at this point. America. It was fun while it lasted.

    • Carl

      Why does anyone care about who a person decides to marry? How does that affect you in your day to day life?

      What do you think god will do to america if same sex marriage was legalized in all 50 states?

      It would be sad and pathetic if gay marriage was the tipping point for god, what with all the other horrific things that occur in the good ole USA and around the world day in and day out. What does that say about god and his priorities?

      What about men and women who get married 2,3,4 or more times, should we stop them from doing this also isn’t that an abomination to god also?

      • JC Teecher

        No, carl, divorce is not an abomination type sin.
        Ignorant preachers have made it that way because of not rightly dividing the Word.
        Divorce is a forgivable sin, the same as homosexuality, but it requires a change of bad habits, like lusting after strange flesh.

        • Carl

          Says the divorced man. I love christians because they pick and choose what sins are worse than others based on their own lifestyles. All SIN is an abomination to God. ALL of IT. NOT just a few you would not participate in.

          But since I don’t believe in sin I really don’t care. Most gay and transgendered people are being used by the system to push an agenda. What might that be? It is not to make gay or transgendered accepted in society. I have not really given it much thought but someone out there may have an idea and can enlighten us.

          • JC Teecher

            Carl says:

            ” All SIN is an abomination to God. ALL of IT. NOT just a few you would not participate in.”

            And teecher says…again:

            Carl, you are the last person that should try to be vying for the biblical truths Poster Boy, position.

          • Carl

            I am not just stating a fact as to what your bible says.

          • GSOB

            You like greasing the wheels though.

  • Seen2013

    “Of course “Trumpcare” is far from perfect, and it actually does very little to fix our rapidly failing healthcare system, but the reason why this is the best thing that Trump has done so far is because this bill would greatly reduce federal funding for Planned Parenthood.”

    Who needs tax Dollars when you contribute to Planned Parenthood’s group’s who donate contributions to Planned Parenthood while also promoting Neo-Malthusian objectives…

  • “V”

    Now it all makes sense, I understand why my parents and Grandparents worked well into their 70’s. They could not afford to retire.

    • JC Teecher

      Just got off the phone with one of my Old Truck Driving buddies. he came back home from a 2300 mile trip to Houston from the Appalachia area, and was excited as he only has one more trip and he is done for the remainder of the year.
      He retired early at 62, but drives from January until he gets to his limit of income he can make, before being taxed to death.
      Last year he worked an extra two weeks as they begged him to stay on till they could hire his replacement. Big mistake, huge mistake, as it put him into a different bracket, and he had to pay back over 2 grand to the IRS.

      Anyways; as he was grumbling about having to work, I asked why he even worked at all, since is wife is 67 and draws a good check, and it’s just the two of them.
      His reply was startling; “I have to work because of Obamacare.” What?
      “yep, I had went without health insurance for years, and then got bad sick, and it costs the dickens out of me, so I got on Obamacare back when it first became available. It cost me a little over $300 a month to begin with, then after a year or two it doubled, then my deductible went to 5k, and it doubled again. This year it went up to over $1400.00 a month, so I have to work just to keep the insurance paid up for the year.”
      Next year he turns 65, and is hoping Medicare will take care of the 17 thousand dollar annual insurance premiums.

      • Carl

        Is this the same person you were complaining about a few posts down? Something doesn’t pass the smell test with these stories teechy.

        • JC Teecher

          Nope, obi wan, you need to change your socks, as that is what you are smelling, these are two entirely different people, from different backgrounds.

          • Carl

            Are you sure? They sound like the same people to me and what is with the guys hillbilly accent?

          • JC Teecher

            It is our southern English drawl. And we use it proudly, just to pizz all you types off.
            All the yankee women I ever met, really like it, and the southern gals, they hate yankee accents, but love these ole southern country boys, and God doesn’t care either way, as He is not a respecter of persons.

          • Carl

            He’s not a respecter or persons but he does play favorites.

          • JC Teecher

            I don’t know about that, but He sure has been blessing me very well lately.

          • Carl

            Sorry it does not work that way. You have what you have based on your own work not because god gave you anything. There are many faithful that live in poverty and never escape it. It has to do with their own abilities, who they know and sometimes the luck of recognizing an opportunity.

  • socalbeachdude

    House Passes Pay Or Die TrumpCare

    Obamacare was bad enough – a deplorable rationing scheme to enrich drug companies and large hospital chains.

    Trumpcare makes things far worse. Family subsidies to help low-income households without employer or VA coverage are slashed to $2,000 – $4,000, largely based on age.

    Insurers can charge older Americans up to five times more than younger ones – making coverage, or enough of it, unaffordable for millions not eligible for Medicare.

    Medicaid as an open-ended entitlement is ended for the nation’s poor. States will receive allotted amounts of federal funding as a lump-sum block grant with few restrictions – giving them the option of aiding their poor residents or restricting it, perhaps diverting some of the funds for other purposes.

    Over the next 10 years, Medicaid for the nation’s most vulnerable will be slashed by $880 billion. Millions of poor households will increasingly be denied vital healthcare when they most need it for expensive treatments.

    If continuous coverage is interrupted for any reason, insurers can impose a 30% surcharge on premiums to restore it.

    States can opt out of federal mandates, prohibiting higher premiums for emergency services, maternity care, and for individuals based on their health status, namely pre-existing conditions.

    Insurers cannot charge sick people higher premiums unless a state has a high-risk pool or reinsurance program – to help residents with serious illnesses.

    States will get $138 billion over 10 years – to be used at their discretion for subsidizing health insurance premiums, covering residents with pre-existing conditions, and treating drug addiction.

    • Carl

      It is a disgrace Socal but hey at least planner parenthood will be defunded. NOT LOL’ing

      • socalbeachdude

        To quote a very confused Neil Armstrong, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”

  • FirstGarden

    Funding for Planned Parenthood may never be cut. They’re the ones who provide virgins and male concubines for the senators who support them.
    And should any “UN-planned Parenthood” occur, they also take care of that as part of the deal.

    • Carl

      Those aborted babies are the lucky ones. They don’t have to live in this backwards world where people cheer being financially ruined in order to defend a way of life that is now taking advantage of people more and more as the decades go by.

      • FirstGarden

        Short-circuited into Eternity.

  • James Gutschmidt

    Check out the Jesuit oath on line. All is being accomplished as planned. Ryan is a monster. The Supreme Court is dominated by Catholics, as are all of the rest of the courts. Gorsuch is Jesuit trained, we’ll see what he does. Genocide is being practiced wholesale upon the United States, a Christian Nation. The proof is in the results. We are doomed! Repent and accept Jesus gift of salvation accomplished on the cross. He is our only hope.

    • socalbeachdude

      Where do you come up with such utter nonsense?

      • James Gutschmidt

        They censored my former response. An internet word search and you can easily find material that answers my nonsense. You might search: Jesuit Oath, Supreme Court dominated by Catholics, Paul Ryan’s religion, Neil Gorsuch’s education, the 1948 UN definition for Genocide, Roe v. Wade, The preamble to the Constitution concerning “posterity,” abortion numbers …..
        “18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.” 1 Corinthians 1:18-31. The following passages are most informative. I Pray for your salvation. God bless.

        • socalbeachdude

          So, now you’re trying to attack the branch of the Christian religion that is known as CATHOLICS? Really? Seriously?

  • socalbeachdude

    The core principles of insurance are based on the RISK OF LOSS and the LAW OF LARGE NUMBERS in order to develop actuarily sound premiums that are affordable while maintaining solvency (and hopefully profitability) for the insurance companies that offer coverages. In order for those principles to be achieved there MUST BE SOUND UNDERWRITING AND EXCLUSION OF GUARANTEED AND CATASTROPHIC LOSSES or else insurance premiums would not be affordable and insurance companies would not be able to MAINTAIN SOLVENCY as they are required to do by all state laws which regulate all classes of insurance.

    The ACA violates the core principles of insurance which would result in extreme ADVERSE RISK SELECTION where those with guaranteed losses flock to obtain coverages which would very rapidly render all medical expense insurers INSOLVENT.

    The ACA is really just a COST SHIFTING MECHANISM from those with losses to a third party. If that third party were the US government, then that would be a different story. Unlike the federal government, insurance companies are NOT A BOTTOMLESS PIT OF LOSSES and cannot be for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that they are not allowed to be by state laws regulating insurance companies which require SOLVENCY at all times.

    This Atrocious Care Act nonsense is the biggest boondoggle in US government history and will not survive for a huge variety of reasons.

    There is no way that the ACA can remain. The Achilles heal is the the MASSIVE LOSSES IMPOSED ON MEDICAL EXPENSE INSURERS who cannot and will not continue to offer medical expense coverages. I think that was the intent in the first place in order to force a “single payer system” and drive the medical expense insurers totally out of business. The only other explanation would be TOTAL IGNORANCE OF INSURANCE PRINCIPLES by those who wrote the legislation. Either way, the result of NO MEDICAL INSURANCE AVAILABLE will rapidly be the same.

    Insurance companies that offer medical expenses coverages are the BIGGEST LOSERS with this debacle and will soon be WITHDRAWING ANY AND ALL MEDICAL EXPENSE COVERAGES FROM THE MARKET and shutting down medical expense insurance operations as they will be have no choice but to do so as they would be RENDERED INSOLVENT if they continued to offer coverages.

  • gfmucci

    The Republican Senate sounds like a bunch of Democrats. Once again the Republicans will show themselves as useless.

  • socalbeachdude

    Folks, this is the 51st or 52nd time that the House has voted to repeal ObamaScare. You do realize that don’t you? And when it goes to the Senate the Senate just laughs and does nothing and ignores the House. Why do the dolts in the White House and the House keep going down this well-traveled road which ends in a dead end?

    • Carl

      To give the illusion that they are actually trying to do something and as you read the above article the people fall for it time and time again. If you like your illusions you can keep your delusions – Trumped 2017.

  • Carl

    Pharma Company Threatens Shortages to Hike Up Cancer Drug Prices by 4000%

  • J.j. Cintia

    Socialised Medicine, No! Subsidized Medicine, Si!
    No more penalties, for 63 days. No more bad coverage, unless you pay.
    Look up in the sky! Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No. Its sky high costs and debts. Trumperman. Old fool with whiny kids and the power to claim he dint do it. Trumperman. Super Zero Alien Enabler.

  • Gamma Rat

    Please do not try to convince us that this “repeal and replace” S..t sandwich of a bill taste good…..Trump supporters, myself included, have to realize that we have been played…The only good thing is that we did not have to wait long to be betrayed by Trump and the Re-puics.

  • mtntrek3

    It’s not “None of us need help from anyone else”. It’s also not “We all need help from everyone else” . In between the two is reality.

  • mtntrek3

    I side with certain of Donald’s stances. … But, my take is that he’s a charlatan. Fantasy land along with loud voices. Pffft. Talk is cheap. Where to find talk that is true? Check out God’s Word. Seriously…. and take care everyone.

  • mtntrek3

    Donald is one of talk, of grand promises. All will be well with him. Lol. He says he’s not a politician, he’ll make all things better. Really? It’s amazing how many will be lead along by the rhetoric of the few. Talk is cheap. Our ways as mankind are failing no matter which side of the aisle you claim. Look to the Bible for the Truth. : – ) . Take care all. Chris.

  • mtntrek3

    Smoke and mirrors from this beginning administration to several in the past. Illusions. Behind the curtains we as the people of our nation are being taken and big time. Look to God for the real story.

  • mtntrek3

    BTW, if we decide to step on and disregard our nation’s poor, disabled and elderly ……….. we’ve all lost.

  • mtntrek3

    Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, W., Obama, Trump……….. . ? ? One will follow soon that is evil incarnate. The antichrist. Tune into God’s Word for further instructions.

    • Carl

      “The Impostor will appear and a believer will head toward him and will
      say: Oh men, here is the Impostor of whom spoke the prophet.”

  • socalbeachdude

    What utter nonsense, and CATHOLICISM is part of the CHRISTIAN RELIGION.

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