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The Economics Of Marriage

Marriage - Photo by Eric WardThe marriage rate in the United States has fallen to the lowest level ever recorded.  So why is this happening?  Well, the truth is that there are a lot of reasons why so many young people are choosing not to get married today.  One big reason is money.  Young adults in the U.S. are really struggling to find good jobs, and many are hesitant to take a big step like marriage without achieving a certain level of financial security first.  And as you will see below, many young adults (especially women) do not even want to date someone that is not employed.  In this harsh economic environment, money makes a big difference in the world of romance.  Another big reason for the decline of marriage in America is a seismic shift in cultural attitudes.  Americans (especially young people) do not place the same kind of importance on marriage and having children that they once did.  Instead, more Americans are choosing to “move in together” than ever before.  But if the percentage of Americans that choose to get married continues to decline, what is that going to mean for our future, and what is our country going to look like moving forward?

According to a startling new study conducted at Bowling Green University, the marriage rate in America has fallen precipitously over the past 100 years.

In 1920, there were 92.3 marriages for every 1,000 unmarried women.  In 2012, there were only 31.1 marriages for every 1,000 unmarried women.

That is not just a new all-time low, that is a colossal demographic earthquake.

That same study found that the marriage rate has fallen by an astounding 60 percent since 1970 alone.

As a result, U.S. households look far different today than they once did.

Back in 1950, 78 percent of all households in the U.S. contained a married couple.  Today, that number has declined to 48 percent.

That is a very troubling sign if you consider the family to be one of the fundamental building blocks of society.

When young people are asked why they are delaying marriage today, one of the things that always seems to get brought up is money.  There is a feeling (especially among men) that you should achieve a certain level of financial security before making the big plunge.

And it is a fact that the more money you have, the more likely you are to be married.  Just check out the following stats about income and marriage from a recent Business Insider article

83% of 30- to 50-year-old men in the top 10% of annual earnings are married today, whereas only 64% of median earners and half of those in the bottom 25th percentile are hitched.

Now, compare that to men in 1970, whose marriage rates were 95% (top earners), 91% (median earners), and 60% (bottom 25th percentile of earners), respectively.

A lot of people like to think that “love is the only thing that matters” when it comes to marriage, but the cold, hard numbers tell a different story.  In fact, one very shocking survey discovered that 75 percent of all American women would have a problem even dating an unemployed man…

Of the 925 single women surveyed, 75 percent said they’d have a problem with dating someone without a job. Only 4 percent of respondents asked whether they would go out with an unemployed man answered “of course.”

“Not having a job will definitely make it harder for men to date someone they don’t already know,” Irene LaCota, a spokesperson for It’s Just Lunch, said in a press release. “This is the rare area, compared to other topics we’ve done surveys on, where women’s old-fashioned beliefs about sex roles seem to apply.”

Unfortunately for American men, there simply are not enough good jobs to go around.  In fact, the number of working age Americans without a job has increased by 27 million since the year 2000, and businesses in the U.S. are being destroyed faster than they are being created.

Due to a lack of economic opportunities, a rising percentage of our young people have been giving up on the “real world” and have been moving back in with Mom and Dad.  For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled “29 Percent Of All U.S. Adults Under The Age Of 35 Are Living With Their Parents“.  And when you break down the numbers, you find that young men are almost twice as likely to move back in with their parents as young women are.

But economic factors alone certainly do not account for the tremendous decline in the marriage rate that we have witnessed in this country.  Shifting cultural attitudes also play a huge role.

A whole host of opinion polls and surveys show that Americans simply do not value marriage and having children as much as they once did.  For example, the Pew Research Center has found that the younger you are, the more likely you are to believe that “marriage is becoming obsolete” and that “children don’t need a mother and a father to grow up happily”.

In fact, an astounding 44 percent of all Americans in the 18 to 29-year-old age bracket now believe that “marriage is becoming obsolete”.

And why should they get married?  Our movies and television shows constantly tell them that they can have the benefits of being married without ever having to make a lifelong commitment.

This sounds particularly good to men, since they can run around and have sex with lots of different women without ever having to “settle down”.

But there are most definitely consequences for this behavior.  The “sexual revolution” has left behind countless broken hearts, shattered dreams, unintended pregnancies and devastated families.

In addition, the U.S. has become a world leader when it comes to sexually-transmitted disease.

It is hard to believe this number, but according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention approximately one-third of the entire population of the United States (110 million people) currently has a sexually transmitted disease.

So nobody should claim that the “sexual revolution” has not had any consequences.

But most Americans don’t actually run around and sleep with lots of different people at the same time.  Instead, most Americans seem to have adopted a form of “serial monogamy“.

In America today, most people only sleep with one person at a time, and “living together” is being called “the new marriage”.

According to the CDC, 74 percent of all 30-year-old women in the U.S. say that they have cohabitated with a romantic partner without being married to them, and it has been estimated that 65 percent of all couples that get married in the United States live together first.

Many believe that by “trying out” the other person first that it will give them a much better chance of making marriage work if they eventually do choose to go down that path.  Unfortunately, that does not seem to work out very well in practice.  In fact, the divorce rate for couples that live together first is significantly higher than for those that do not.

And when it comes to divorce, America is the king.

For years, the U.S. has had the highest divorce rate in the developed world.

But it wasn’t always this way.  Back in 1920, less than one percent of all women in the United States were currently divorced or separated.  Today, approximately 15 percent of all women in the United States are currently divorced or separated.

So why are so many people getting divorced?

Of course there are a lot of factors involved (including money), but a big one is cheating.  According to one survey, 41 percent of all spouses admit to infidelity.  Many Americans simply find it very difficult to stay committed to one person for an extended period of time.

As a result of what I have discussed so far, it is easy to see why people in our society are so lonely and so isolated.  Less people are getting married, more divorces are happening and couples are having fewer children.  This means that our households are smaller and we have far fewer family connections than we once did.

100 years ago, 4.52 people were living in the average U.S. household, but now the average U.S. household only consists of 2.59 people.

That is an astounding figure.

And the United States has the highest percentage of one person households on the entire planet.

But we weren’t meant to live alone.  We were meant to love and to be loved.

Often, those that are being hurt the most by our choices as a society are the children.  They need strong, stable homes to grow up in, and we are not providing that for millions upon millions of them.

When you look at just women under the age of 30 in the United States, more than half of all babies are being born out of wedlock.

That would have been unimaginable 100 years ago.

And of course when there is no marriage involved, a lot of times the guy does not stick around.  At this point, approximately one out of every three children in the United States lives in a home without a father, and in many impoverished areas of the country the rate is well over 50 percent.

In addition, women are waiting much longer to have children than they once did.

In 1970, the average woman had her first child when she was 21.4 years old.  Now the average woman has her first child when she is 25.6 years old.

The biggest reason for this, once again, is money

In the United States, three-quarters of people surveyed by Gallup last year said the main reason couples weren’t having more children was a lack of money or fear of the economy.

The trend emerges as a key gauge of future economic health — the growth in the pool of potential workers, ages 20-64 — is signaling trouble ahead. This labor pool had expanded for decades, thanks to the vast generation of baby boomers. Now the boomers are retiring, and there are barely enough new workers to replace them, let alone add to their numbers.

We are waiting longer to have children and having fewer of them, but those children are needed for the economic future of this country.

Fifteen years from now, one out of every five Americans will be over the age of 65.  All of those elderly Americans are going to want the rest of us to keep the financial promises that were made to them.  But that is going to turn out to be quite impossible.  We simply do not have enough people.

In the end, the economics of marriage does not just affect those that are thinking of getting married or those that are already married.

The truth is that the economics of marriage affects all of us.

So what do you think is in store for the future of the institution of marriage in this country?

Please feel free to share what you believe by posting a comment below…

  • Rodster

    IIRC most marriages end or have major issues over money.
    So definitely there is a correlation that money is a driving force as to why people get married. How can you support a family if you can’t support yourself? Big Govt and central planners have helped destroy marriage although there are other factors. When I was growing up in the 60’s my Dad worked and Mom took care of the kids and there were 3 of us.

    Good luck with that today. Both parents need to have good jobs if they want to have kids and they will find out that’s probably just to make ends meet.

    • desiderata

      Please note that the more governments attempt to control the lives of the people, the more necessary it is to deconstruct the family. A weak family structure is necessary for more government intervention in citizens personal lives.

      Note the current government promotion of homosexuality. Traditional generational family structure is impossible in such a household environment.

      Note the government interference in child rearing; aggressive social services agencies, every younger requirements for institutional schooling, even government regulations on what a youngster is allowed to eat for lunch, Common Core. With a strong multi-generational extended family this kind of government takeover of private life would not be tolerated.

      The family structure must be weakened in order for government to gain more control, and certainly has historical precedents. Both the Communist soviet regime and the Chinese set forth policies to undermine the traditional family (one child, communal living) reducing the resentment by severing family ties.

      It is intentional. It is purposeful. It is here.

      • Rodster

        Well said !

      • Syrin

        100% correct

      • PotHead69

        This is why normal people scoff at your judgmental religious ideas. You say people promote homosexuality because we don’t want to bash the gays? Screw kooks. Your game is over.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          “You say people promote homosexuality because we don’t want to bash the gays?”

          Of course, “promote” != “don’t bash” but I’m sure that stupidity sounded good in your head.

          “Screw kooks”
          Your loser girlfriend does, now doesn’t she.

        • dadelaw

          Oof, Pothead! I’m with you all the way… but you don’t stand a chance here. They’re all religious freaks on this site and they’ll slam you from here to there and back. Just wait to see what follows this post!….

          • davidmpark

            I’m too busy to prove you wrong now. Check back later.

          • PotHead69

            He he, I love messing with these clowns from the middle of nowhere who seem to know exactly how the cities of the world should run.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            lol. Slather that stereotype deep, boy. The law of averages indicates you’re sure to say something smart sooner or later.

            I’ve lived in “big cities” most of my life. Munich, Tucson, San Diego, Los Angeles, Salt Lake City.

          • prospector

            As compared to how you liberal pukes think things should be done. Worked out well with the efficiently run s##holes like Detroit , Baltimore , and Birmingham which are all on the verge of social and economic collapse. Now unlike what you refer to as religious freaks on this site of which I am not one of , I will say that you and all of your liberal s##tbag friends can all die and burn in hell for all I care.

          • PotHead69

            Ahh the great liberal bastion of Birmingham? F Alabama , and all racist rednecks. You deserve what you got. Nice voting as~swipes

          • Gay Veteran

            Detroit , Baltimore , and Birmingham?
            nothing JOBS wouldn’t cure

          • GSOB

            Like Adam in his rebellion, sinners choose to dress themselves in the robes of authority, so that they can render instant autonomous judgment.

            They do not want to subordinate themselves to God.

        • CensoredSpeech

          Sounds like you toked one to many!!

          • PotHead69

            Man, I wish. I’ve been in china for a week. This is the longest I’ve gone without weed for a few years. Can’t wait to get back to Cali.

          • Danno

            How’s the air over there? Still able to walk outside and not see anything?

          • PotHead69

            Crazy. First few days were a holiday, so it was nice and clear in Beijing. First business day I watched the air go from clear at sunrise to so smoggy by end of day, that I couldn’t see to the end if the block. I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t seen it with my own burning eyes. I think china will implement an electric car mandate soon. They have no choice. Everyone here sounds like they have emphesyma.

          • Danno

            Wife has a friend that teaches over there and said pretty much the same. It’s no wonder that their economy is able to grow so quick. No worry about clean air regs. Stay safe and find some clean air.

          • Hammerstrike

            Too bad you weren’t in China during the cultural re vo lu tion, already then Beijing had air problems, dust from Mongolia,

          • PotHead69

            Know where to get any hash over here?

          • Danno

            Lol , sorry no.

          • CensoredSpeech

            Back to the state of “FRUITS” and “VEGETABLES”!

          • prospector

            You could’nt find china on a labeled map you f##&%ing moron.

        • chilller

          Religion wasn’t mentioned until you brought it up…what are you… a pothead or something…?

      • Gay Veteran

        “…Note the current government promotion of homosexuality….”

        blast it, I missed that memo

        • Eric Quintero

          Did you really? Its everywhere you look. I cant walk into a store without seeing the gay agenda in newspapers or magazines. Always positioned near the check out lane. Always there.

          And if you speak out against the media and government shoving this down your throat 24/7 then you’re a “bigot.”

          The issue of “Gay Marriage” only affects 5% of us. I really couldnt care less. I tend to care about things that actually matter…like….

          THE ECONOMY!!!

          The media loooooooves the gay issue, but wont touch upon the fact that BRICS has a following of 80+ nations (65% of global trade) that is preparing and willing to get off the USD.

          • PotHead69

            Yes, you are a bigot.

          • Eric Quintero

            Probably. Can I pull the “gay card” and say “I was born this way?” lol

          • Hammerstrike

            Born “gay”, how far does that go? Can a baby be “gay”?

            au.ibtimes.c o m/ articles/542674/20140311/paedophile-gay-sexually-abused-boy-son. h tm

          • prospector

            Yes , you are a moron.

          • Toronto feminists want richmen

            Gays, lesbos and neofeminist agenda are huge in Canada. Soon it will be a crime to be a straight male in Canada.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            Fight it every way you can.

          • Priszilla

            Yes, fight the 5% gays and keep the economy in the doldrums.

            LOL

          • K2

            Are you implying all men are like this? Or just these guys?

          • Priszilla

            What do you think?

            What do you think of yourself? Do you need to degrade others to feel good yourself?

            Or are you happy with who you are and are not threatened in your happiness by what people do at home in their bedroom or on the kitchen table, or how partners look under their undewear?

          • K2

            I am happy with who i am, and i am not threatened in my happiness by what people do in their bedroom or on the kitchen table or how partners look in their underwear.

            Now…are you implying all men are like this, or just these guys?

          • Priszilla

            It’s up to you how you want to feel and to which group you want to belong.

            At least this is something you can decide.

          • K2

            I know that, but you still haven’t answered my question.

          • Priszilla

            Well, I love men, so I do not find all of them pathetic.

            Does THIS answer your question?

            Anyway, I find “men” pathetic. Creatures who believe to be above others because a little nippel between their legs.
            Creature who need guns or big cars or bullying to feel worthy of admiration.

          • K2

            Using the word ‘men’ implies all men.

          • Priszilla

            No, it implies more than one man.

          • K2

            All men is…more than one man.

          • Priszilla

            Two men is more than one but not all.

            What do they teach you in America?

          • K2

            Two men is more than one yes, but you said ‘men’.

            This is how is in most places not just america. What do they teach you in your country?

          • Priszilla

            What do ” ” imply, as in “men”?

          • Priszilla

            please read the original post again. i was talking about so called men, or “men” who go crazy just to fight gays, and forget or neglect everything else over it.

            these “men” don’t deserve to be called men. they are pathetic.

            clearer now?

          • Gay Veteran

            yeah, and you probably have women problems personally

          • Priszilla

            Well, go to Somalia, then.

          • davidmpark

            So, if being straight is outlawed and they need straight males to propagate the population cheaply… then… wasn’t that the thesis of an Outer Limits episode once?

            How ’bout this: save your money, wait for the inevitable depopulation, then buy up British Colombia cheap.

          • Gay Veteran

            “The media loooooooves the gay issue….”
            of course the corporate media do, TPTB want social issues to divide us while they loot the country

          • Priszilla

            Right, gay marriage only affects 5%. Time to get everyone the right to marry whom they love, provided they are unmarried, unrelated adult humans.

            Get the issue off the table as soon as possible and start taking care of the economy.

            Blast those republicans who block everything off those parliamentarian seats. They are bad for the economy.

          • K2

            Its in the papers, doent mean the govt is promoting it.

          • Hammerstrike

            The mainstream medias and current society in general supports the homosexuals and homosexual marriage.
            The “LGBT” are one of the groups protected by political correctness, the system sees a use for them.

          • K2

            Protecting is different from promoting. A govt has the responsibility to protect the rights of the people.

        • afchief

          Your boyfriend probably did not.

          • Gay Veteran

            I’ll just get if from your son

      • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

        Totally agree. Make sure to teach your children that homosexuality is wrong.

        • Gay Veteran

          god grant you a gay child

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            Too bad for you- my three adult children are straight, and happily married to their opposite-sex spouses. My nine, white grandchildren are obviously straight, and normal. They ALL were instructed about the perversion of homosexuality.

          • Gay Veteran

            perversion? look into a mirror.
            if you had a gay child they would never tell you because your heart is hardened.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            My children are my life. And they would tell me. But since they are all normal (heterosexual) I don’t worry about it.
            Too bad for you, any child you ‘have’ will not have a mother and father together.
            Your child’s family lines are broken that way.

          • Gay Veteran

            “Christians” (more like pharisees) like you are why young people are turning away from the churches

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            Who says we’re Christian?
            LOL

          • Gay Veteran

            I didn’t. I said “Christians”.

          • PotHead69

            I’m sure one of those brats has sucked off a dude or 2

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            Don’t you wish. How sad for you, that my family is straight- does that frighten you?
            Well, we ARE 99% of the population, you are such a minority- it must hurt

          • Priszilla

            All gays are made by straights.

            Without moms and dads there wouldn’t be any gays.

            See yourself as producer of gays.

            And as cause of youth suizides and anti-minority bullying.

            Instead of “normal” you could say “ordinary”, “uniform”.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            Then all gays better be grateful to us straights, then hadn’t they?
            But like I said, I’ll have to feel sorry for the next straight woman, as ALL my kids are straight. I know that really bothers you, but that’s how it is.
            I bet you have no children at all, do you?
            And you can thank us once again, for populating the world, cuz the gays sure don’t do it.
            All they give us is AIDS

          • Priszilla

            Why?

            It’s enough to be grateful to my mom and dad.

            I don’t have children of my own. Just nephews and nieces I support.

            Well, your son was making children too, even he’s gay.

            And don’t forget, gay brothers often support their straight sisters, allowing them to raise more children than they would be financially able to otherwise.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            i’m surprised at your low-life behavior of repeatedly lying about my son. Is that what phony liberals like you do? The only way you can ‘defend’ yourselves is to lie?
            You truthfully need a therapist about repeatedly fibbing.

          • Priszilla

            LOL Are you afraid now that your son is really gay?

            Good.

            Tell me this: what are the chances that I met the son of someone in the Internet who doesn’t tell his real name, and know that the son and disqus are related?

            But,
            It could have happened, and you are upset about the possibility.
            Maybe he does travel to China, maybe he does travel to Greece, maybe he is working hard?

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            You know, I just showed my straight son and his grandson, who came over today, your pathetic mental illness. They’re having a good laugh at your expense.
            My grandson turned to his father, my son, and said: ‘they really ARE vicious and mentally ill, and my son, said: “yep”.
            You did more work to make yourselves look bad, then you could ever know.
            Thanks for losing your own argument!
            LOL.

          • Priszilla

            Well, have you heard this one:
            Comes a horse into a bar, says the barman:

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            So where’s the rest of the joke?
            Gays ARE a joke, I understand……….

          • Priszilla

            The joke is on you.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            More on the measly 1% that you are. Have fun being a minority. The media kisses your butt, but everyone else can’t stand you.

          • Gay Veteran

            hmmmmm, I bet you’re some 12 year old in mommy’s basement

          • Sorcha The Dark Eyed Elf

            The straight wife of the secretly gay man gets hurt in the end when he finally ‘comes out’. For possibly decades, he lied to her and she thought he was really attracted to her. There is no excuse for that.

          • Priszilla

            Agree.

            There is no point in pressing gay people into leading a supposedly “normal life”.

            Possibly the gay man “lied” to his wife because of family pressure.

            In China, the family is demanding that the son marries and produces a son.

            Now, those wives go public and want that practice stopped.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            I agree with you. I’ve read about gays screwing women over, pretending to be straight, when they’re anything but. The wife’s life is devastated. The children are devastated. Gays are disgusting, and this proves it.
            Ya gotta understand about gays: it’s all about THEM.

          • Gay Veteran

            well moron, they did that because of bigots like you

          • Gay Veteran

            pathetic bigot, read some history

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            I have ethics AND history on my side.
            And we always will.
            Please read Dr. Lorraine Day’s book, “Aids: What The Government Isn’t Telling You”. It’s about how the gays gave AIDS to themselves despite many warnings to save their lives.
            Oh, I know my history

          • Gay Veteran

            yeah, and them gays controlled the Nazis too!

          • Gay Veteran

            Lorraine Day?

            from Quackwatch: “…She states that, “All diseases are caused by a combination of three factors: malnutrition, dehydration, and stress.”…”

          • Priszilla

            oh, i was instructed, too about perversion. but when you fall in love you dont care about instructions.

          • Priszilla

            I met your son the other day. He was visiting his boyfriend on his “business trip”. Working his a s s off to become financially independent, even has a bank account in China his wife knows nothing about.

            But he will stay with her until the kids are out of the house.

            He would never tell you, as you “wouldn’t understand”. He’s not happy about it, but he can’t change you.

            His dream? Getting out of your reach.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            And then you came down from your LSD-induced high, right?
            LOL

          • Priszilla

            Not really. We just had a few beers. And we went for dinner together. He and his boyfriend, and I with my boyfriend, and a few others.

            Chinese dinners are great for meeting with strangers, and relaxing.

            Did you ever wonder why there are gay villages near China town?

            Chinese care more about business, not so much religion.

          • disqus_4Jy24XjH8I

            We don’t care about religion either

          • Hammerstrike

            Carefull, you´ll make gay veteran cry

          • Gay Veteran

            moron

          • Priszilla

            You are cruel.

            The poor child!

          • Gay Veteran

            the poor child? indeed, to have such hard hearted bigoted parents

          • Hammerstrike

            Poor homosexuals, having so many individuals like you to proove the “bigots” right.

          • Gay Veteran

            boring troll

          • Hammerstrike

            I met your son the other day is a pretty damn re.tarded argument, thought.

      • Gay Veteran

        “…Note the current government promotion of homosexuality. Traditional generational family structure is impossible in such a household environment….”

        Try backing up that first sentence with evidence. And the second is a non sequitur

      • Gay Veteran

        “…Note the current government promotion of homosexuality….”

        how?

    • Rodster

      Sometimes you can’t make this stuff up.

      “Florida man demands right to wed computer”

      Link below:

      • Charlotte

        There have been marriages between people and goats, dolphins, a pillow, a bridge, and even a woman who had a ceremony to marry herself. Marriage has become a joke in the eyes of many.

        • Tom_F

          @Char, totally right. The ones who really frost me the most are the rich white GOP, who say “for thee, but not for me!”, like Newt, Rush, Bob Barr, etc. each with 3+ marriages and counting. They make it really hard to defend “traditional marriage” and yet they never own it. Tired of cleaning up their messes, when they ask us to rally the troops. People who marry untraditionally may get the paper, but they will never be considered ‘normal’ and the ones who marry computers and goats are not going to any ‘couples retreats.':-)

      • Tatiana Covington

        What an idea for a truly great Science-Fiction author (myself)! I’ve been working on something like that myself, involving a computer whose operating speed is ca. 50 million petaflops…

        • nekksys

          I know this is off-subject but isn’t 50M PFLOPS somewhere in the range of the processing power of Pixar’s render farm?

      • davidmpark

        Like the British woman who married her dog.

        • Gay Veteran

          and how did the dog give consent?

          • davidmpark

            More than that: what about kids; what if they adopt? Would they go with human or canine – or is that racist? Or specie-ist?

          • Gay Veteran

            hey Einstein, how did the dog give consent?

          • davidmpark

            What answer are you looking for?

    • laura m.

      Having just one kid today is a luxury, few can afford it. Both man and wife have to work just to meet expenses. Having kids lowers your standard of living. If divorce happens, then kids end up getting hurt or have emotional problems. I have seen what I thought were “ideal couples” that split up. Another reason for living together and not marrying or being childfree is high divorce rates among their parents generation.

    • Toronto feminists want richmen

      The neofeminists in Canada view a housewife as an oppressed species caused by the male. Neofeminists love to marry rich men and they use their limited sexappeal to elevate the social and economic ladder, but they outlaw prostitution and are undergoing a petitition to raise the age of consent from 16 to 21 because of their victim status. But when a female public school teacher corrupts the morals of a minor, the court system in Canada does nothing.

      • Jeremy

        I noticed the same thing. I attended an ultra-liberal and ultra-feminist university, and the feminists were always quick to spread their legs for a rich man.

        So much for their principles.

  • kathym2

    Our future doesnt look too bright.

    • Kim

      if you depend on man to guide us out of this mess, no, it sure doesn’t.

      • Yahno

        The biggest reason why couples aren’t marrying but having children? The government rewards this with the Earned Income Credit.

        I know plenty of couples who have been together a very long time and who have 1-2 kids together and who are NOT married because once a year they get that Earned Income Credit check for $4000-6000 every year at tax time. NOT to mention the kids ALWAYS get free health care through whatever state they live in. AND in Michigan, the partner of the custodial parent, if he/she lives in the home, is entitled to free health care too – EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT MARRIED!

        And every couple I have asked the question to, their answer is: Why should we get married? We get more money from the government if we don’t marry.

        So why WOULD anybody marry?

        The government does everything

        it can to be eliminate marriage between a man and a woman.

        • laura m.

          The problem is the kids are bastards and some view the parents as trashy low lifes and refuse to have anything to do with them. One lady called them dogs. You’re known by the company you keep.

          • PotHead69

            ^ C.u.n.ext T.uesday ^

        • Nicole Duvall

          While I agree with you that people often refuse to get married in order to collect more benefits, the EIC has NOTHING to do with whether parents
          are married or not. I’m married, and we qualify. In fact, if a single peron falls in a low-income category,they can get it too.

          • Yahno

            @Nicole. Believe it or not, I don’t fault anybody for doing what is available under the existing law….you would be a fool not to take advantage of it. I was just pointing out that these couples (whom together would earn way over the limit allowed) don’t marry so that the woman can qualify for the EIC. Who can blame them? Anybody who does is a liar. BUT I was pointing out that the government does NOT want families as it goes against the communist agenda, so it rewards non-marriage.

          • Nicole Duvall

            I see what you mean. But it only works if one parent has custody, claims the child(ren), and the other parent doesn’t provide at least half of their support. For married couples, you have to file jointly to get the credit, so I see your point about unmarried couples getting around this requirement. It’s the same way people qualify for food stamps and other government benefits–by going on just one income. I have an uncle who lived with a woman for years and each of them got food stamps by reporting only their own income. A few months ago, the Heritage Foundation published an article about a number of tax penalties for married couples, and how this rewards cohabitation. I agree that the government is set up to destroy marriage and support a communist agenda.

        • K2

          and it sure is doing a lot to encourage people to have more and more kids, inspite of less and less jobs in the economy.

        • Hammerstrike

          You want to have children? Live on welfare! Pretty simple, take every advantage you get.

          • Priszilla

            Just like the government: need money? Print it or make debts.

      • Toronto feminists want richmen

        A neofeminist isn’t to depend on either.

        • nekksys

          Neofeminist === Feminazi??

          • Toronto feminists want richmen

            Almost. Toronto neofeminists are the ones who brought the world SLutWalk and taught women that men should not stare at a naked women because that is rape.

            The analogy of a male flaunting money in Detroit doesn’t apply to the SLutWalk theory because the Canadian neofeminist government outlaws any dissenting speech about neofeminist women.

        • Priszilla

          Please explain the difference between a feminist and a neofeminist.

          Use no more than 1500 words, and take great care of spelling, grammar and punctuation. You have 30 minutes.

        • Hammerstrike

          Does rich men want to marry greedy, fat, ugly and bitter feminists? Who will sue the **** out of them and take 80% of their wealth and income using the biaised courts?

          I wouldn´t bet on it! If they where that dumb, they wouldn´t stay rich for long.

      • Hammerstrike

        Better a man than a book written by insane, murderous desert-dwelling goat-humpers.

        • Kim

          Are you a faithless man (woman?)

          • Hammerstrike

            I think there might be an Architect but I really don´t think that Architect would only reveal itself to a small tribue of insane desert-dwellers.

          • Mondobeyondo

            Satan does exist (I hope and pray you don’t realize that when it;too late).The most effective tool the devil has, is to convince you he does not exist.

          • Hammerstrike

            I hope you realize the true nature of the bible before it may be too late for you.

            That nature is not that difficult to figure out.

            evilbible. c o m / Slavery. h tm

            evilbible. c o m/ Rape. ht m

            evilbible.c o m/ Murder. h tm

          • PotHead69

            Did you hear that in a movie or something?

        • Mondobeyondo

          Really? Well now!

    • Hammerstrike

      Yo in our turf, mahn!
      I´ll cut you, I´ll cut you so bad… yo wish I ain´t cut you so bad!

  • BroccoliSoupTown

    Off topic, but I’m sure somebody here knows: if GDP does get revised downward into the red, when would that happen? Are revisions usually a few weeks after the initial report?

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      weeks to months.

  • Syrin

    Destruction of the family has long been a goal of the liberals. Mission accomplished. An OB told me today that the majority of the kids she delivers these days are bastards.

    • Charlotte

      I had a frustrating time in the hospital giving birth to my kids because most of the nurses assumed I was unmmaried and on government assistance just because I was a mom under age 30. Unfortunately, I can’t blame them because nowadays that’s a very safe assumption to make.

      • Oldphartbsa

        wow, really mis-read that.
        thought you said you ‘was an unmarried and on government assistance just because I was a ‘MAN’ under age 30′ time for bed…

    • Toronto feminists want richmen

      The liberals and neofeminists in Canada have been on a smear campaign on Conservative mayor Rob Ford. The neofeminists turn a blind eye to the misandry and hate crimes caused by neofeminist tactics.

      • Gay Veteran

        crack head Rob Ford?

    • Gay Veteran

      “Destruction of the family has long been a goal of the liberals….”

      remind us again who shipped millions of American jobs to Mexico, China, India, Vietnam, etc.

      • Rafa

        Liberals and democrats of course.

        • Gay Veteran

          still believe in the 2 party and left/right BS, eh

          • simmy

            your right however you started the left/right nonsense by promoting liberals and attacking conservatives! and guess what both parties are owned by liberals mainly secular Jews!

          • Gay Veteran

            as Gerald Celente says: conservatives believe their BS, liberals are hypocrites.

          • Gay Veteran

            uh, no.
            was attacking the corporations for shipping millions of American jobs overseas

  • Mondobeyondo

    Several theories/factors/thoughts:

    1) In the early years of the last century (it still surprises me to think of the 20th century as “last century”), we were a mostly agricultural society. People needed kids to work on the farms to keep the family fed. Best way to have kids – is, well, to have kids.

    2) Birth rates always decline during hard times. The birthrate during the early Depression years practically crashed.

    4) The food which we consume. Supposedly, the added hormones introduced in milk, chicken, beef and other foods, has affected our own human hormones as well – testesterone in men and estrogen in women.

    3) You weren’t paying attention were you?!

    • K2

      Good points. At that time people people needed as many kids as they were able to have.

  • Mondobeyondo

    And who’s going to pay for this?

    A common trend: The “sandwich generation” – baby boomers or older children taking care of both their own parents and their own children (sometimes their own grandchildren)..

    The Obamacare supporters have their answer of course. Guess what that is?
    You know, when people in the 1830s or 1860s or 1899… when their relatives got ill, what took care of them? Lincolncare?

    Is it any wonder why we’re collectively “losing it”?

    • Mondobeyondo

      In my defense, the other side must be presented as well.

      1) Some people do need help – they’ve been dealt a bad hand due to unfortunate circumstances in life

      2) No amount of Michelle Obama’s “Let’s Move” campaign will stop the tobacco, alcohol and fast food consumption.

      • PotHead69

        Taker ^

        • Mondobeyondo

          Faker,^

          • PotHead69

            Baker^

      • Arthur Wholeflaffers

        Shaker ><

  • PotHead69

    Take your Christian ideals and shove em. We don’t care about that crap any more. I’ve lived with my girlfriend for 13 years. I take offense to you judging me. The youth are ahead of the game. Religion is done.

    • Tom_F

      @Potty, the only reason you both haven’t signed on the dotted line, is that one or both of you thinks you can do better. And you are right!

      • PotHead69

        Judge much?

        • Sonofgary2

          You seem to be the only judge on this blog you hypocrite!

        • Tom_F

          @Potty, ***PotHead69 > Tom_F 9 hours ago Judge much?***
          hahahaha!! You can dish it out, but can’t take it? There’s a surprise!/sarc I notice you deleted your original post bragging about living with your g/f for 13 years; were you afraid she would see it? All your posts are nothing BUT “judgy!” Look, even your name tells the world that you would rather be high than conscious and present in your own skin. You criticize others (Christian? married?) for traditional choices that have nothing to do with you for one reason….you are attempting to validate your own choices. Guess what? Nobody cares. Live your life. Have a nice day.

          • PotHead69

            Nope, most of my comments get deleted by Michael. I don’t delete anything. Censorship is alive and well on this site

        • Guest

          @givehead69 you’re doing most of the judging here.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “We don’t care about that crap any more”
      You will.

      • davidmpark

        What if we allowed them their utopia? There’s only so many times we can warn and prove ‘em wrong.

        I say we cut ‘em off: let them have a closed utopia; our wealth in all mediums will not support it. If they have such great ideas, such great wisdom, such god-like abilities then let’s see ‘em do it. They can have one city (let’s say Boulder, CO), close it off to outside influence and resources, and let’s see them thrive on their ideology.

        No more theorizing – I want ‘em to prove it.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Coincidentally, the federalism set up by the founders would’ve done that.
          Of course, leftists are rapidly welding the seams between the states forcing us all to the bottom together.

        • PotHead69

          Ok, watch Vermont. Single payer health care

        • anonymous1

          Can you imagine the wealthy, and those that think they are wiser and more deserving than everyone else actually doing real work? Can you imagine those people doing their own work? Can you imagine the college grads that wave their degree in everyone’s face living in a society with other college grads but no carpenters, mechanics, plumbers, carpet installers, landscapers, truck drivers, etc. If they do take over one city or state for themselves, oh please make it a reality show and put it on t.v. for the working class to watch. Also, make a show with school drop-outs. I want to put my money/bet on the school drop-outs for surviving and thriving in a world void of the wealthy’s game-rigging. Then, we shall see whom really keeps the world running smoothly.

      • PotHead69

        What a clown^

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          ^ what a dolt.
          While I generally support ending the war on drugs, you are the poster boy for the idiot that leftists WANT smoking weed.

          • PotHead69

            Just curl up and die old timers, so we can finally move into the 21st century

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Umkay boy. Why doncha sit down and STFU while the adults converse. I work in Sandy, Utah. When you get here txt me and I’ll come outside and show you what you’re made of.
            Boy.

    • davidmpark

      And yet, you went out of your way to type this here. Whatever.

    • CensoredSpeech

      Youth always thinks that. They are always mistaken.

      • PotHead69

        Nope, you are wrong. The writing is on the wall. Adios religion.

    • Guest

      If you think you are part of new age thinking that “religion is done” than you need to do some serious historical research. Our civilization is simply repeating the steps of all other civilizations. And guess what?? Moral and social decay are two main things all collapsing civilizations have had in common. Gay marriage, unwed couples, etc. Think of our society and you will get the picture. The other big part was society turning it’s back on religion. You’re thoughts aren’t original but will lead you to a place that you will someday regret. Mark my words, someday when your answering for you life here you won’t be able to say “sorry Jesus, I never knew about this heaven thing!”…too late.
      So keep making your anger jaded driven comments, it’s like watching a child who thinks they “know it all” explain life to us…amusing.
      Denying God doesn’t change the fact you have to answer to him amigo! Remember that one!

      • anonymous1

        God and religion are two very different things.

      • Angry Jesus

        Turning one’s back on religion doesn’t necessarily precipitate nor contribute to the fall of any society. Most all religious institutions today are as corrupt as their governmental and corporate counterparts are, if not more so. Once organized, religions will follow the very path of decay that you have so acutely pointed out in your post. To lay societies ills at the feet of gays and the unwed is to be truly ignorant and shows how much one’s mind has been shaped by institutional education (governmental, corporate and religious). And yes, I’m still angry.

      • Gay Veteran

        man, we gays must be incredibly powerful /sarc/

  • JahRW

    Lets not forget the media brainwashing women to have unrealistic expectations for most men.

    • Tom_F

      And vice-versa. Every David-Spade-looking-guy seems to think they deserve a Molly-Sims-looking-girl.

      • JahRW

        Good point. A vicious cycle.

      • nekksys

        Good thing I don’t look like David Spade!!!!!

      • Toronto feminists want richmen

        Toronto middle class women receive preference for jobs but they want men with 6 figure salaries.

        • Tom_F

          They sound smart, not like the U.S. teenage babymamas with no job skills, no education, and yet keep squirting out kids for the govt. $ benefit.

          • Anonymous

            Did those girls get pregnant on their own? Are women the only people with hormones? Does biology only effect females? I think not. Nobody female is “squirting” anything out without another person being involved somehow. What does that say about “men” that so many females are having babies alone?

            Next time a nurse cares for you, or another human being shows you a kindness, remember that they just might have been one that was “squirted out.”

          • Tom_F

            @Anon, look…people are going to have s**. Of course it is best within marriage, and certainly desirable within a committed and loving relationship. But it doesn’t always happen that way, and to pretend otherwise is silly. It happens with people who are not ready, financially, emotionally, mentally, to do what it takes to parent a child. Those pregnancies are a mistake. Look at the prison population (not just the US, but all over the world); it is full of men who had no father in the home. The teenager dropouts who get pregnant will now get to move out of their mother or grandmother’s home (rarely from a two-parent home) and qualify for their own domicile through AFDC and then the welfare money starts and really never ends. As for the men? They skip out, and want nothing to do with raising a child. Like an animal, they don’t connect the idea of responsibility for anything they did 9 months ago. And so, the “squirting” just goes on and on. I would love to see a financial incentive for young girls to delay having babies until they are in their early 20s and married, at least. $500 a year for 5 years, with Nexplanon/Implanon or Norplant. When I suggest this, people go nuts because the truth comes out: what they really want is to stop people from having s***. Not gonna happen, and we all have to live with the consequences.

  • Mike Smithy

    Women don’t feel that they need to get married because the gubermint has assumed the roll of daddy.

    • GSOB

      Is economic growth self-sustaining irrespective of moral vision?

  • Richard

    “U.S. households look far different today than they once did.” You cannot say “different than…” (even though it has become part of the degradation of the English language). What you mean is “U.S. households look far different today from what they once did.”

    • JasonD

      Is that a historic observation or an historic one?

    • anonymous1

      Seriously? All of the problems in the world and a grammar lesson is the most pressing thing to discuss?

      I am now encouraged to misspell, and make every grammar mistake known to man in order to help those that need to dish out grammar lessons fulfill their calling and purpose.

      but, what if the dog don’t wanna walk on his leash right? but, what if I don’t never capitalize or use them things at the end of sentences and look at them clouds in the sky over there.

      There you go. I am ready for your red pen.

  • Guest

    All Woman are gold diggers.

    • anonymous1

      Most men are gold diggers that live in a fantasy.

    • K2

      Nope. Not all of them are like that

  • Tatiana Covington

    The brutal biological fact is that we are placental mammals who take ca. 20 years to reach maturity. For our first 6 years or so, we are effectively helpless babies. We cannot even reliably stand up for our first full year!

    We have to be constantly housed, clothed, fed, cared for, looked after, and all the rest of it, or we are simply dead.

    And there goes the species into extinction. Even cloning will not alter the human growth curve, which is genetically controlled and biologically fated.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Interesting how the one and only species like this are humans, isn’t it?

  • mar1950

    Another generation and it will be only the stink’n faggots that will bother to get “married”.

    • PotHead69

      Ok well at least you wear your hate on your hat, unlike most of these clowns here. Why are you kooks so upset by other peoples happiness?

  • Wise guy

    I just had a son with my girlfriend of 3 years. She turned into a hormonal psychopath nut job after he was born & moved out of my house with him. While the whole thing did suck & a custody battle is on the way, at least there is no divorce to contend with. Child support yes but no alimony. The whole system is biased against men (financially mainly) & that my friends is the root cause of decreasing marriages today.

    • PotHead69

      Smart man.

    • Priszilla

      Since there is equality of men and women, she won’t be needing to pay alimony to you, right?

  • DJohn1

    What do other cultures do that we do not do that makes marriage work?
    Balance would be my answer. Jurisdiction is well laid out between the sexes as to who does what and who is in charge.
    In another time and another place my Mom and Dad had a well laid out married life.
    Dad went to work. Mom stayed home and raised the kids. Dad was a tradesman and he provided well for Mom and the kids.
    While Dad was certainly in charge, he constantly leaned on Mom’s judgement in figuring out things.
    Dad was in charge of discipline in the house.
    But Mom was his second in command. Neither one tolerated kids telling parents what to do.
    Mom did her best to keep things within her budget. She sought out bargains at the stores and most meals were home cooked and delicious.
    I had a real home growing up.
    She thought modern women were lazy. That they did not put anything into making their homes really homes.
    You wonder why men don’t marry? I can tell you. Divorce ruins men financially. The courts are out of the business of judging morality in divorce. They do know how to sock it to the men in a divorce hearing. A man can lose 1/3 of his income to child support alone. He can go from having his own house, to having nothing for 20 years in a divorce court.
    That has pretty much sunk any woman getting her man to marry her. The courts definitely favor women in court.
    Men often go from job to job just keeping ahead of those court decisions so that they can keep a little bit of what they have earned.
    I stayed single for well over 11 years after my first wife decided she didn’t want to be married to me any more. I supported three children after 15 years of marriage to her in those 11 single years. When it was all done, I found a good woman to marry.
    I have been married to her for 18 years. I found a soul mate. The contrast between the two women is very apparent to me. The first put me through a living hell. The second is much much nicer to live with.
    I believe in marriage as the only way a decent christian man can go and still maintain an honest relationship with his God. It is not about money to me. It is about two individuals that love one another, are committed to honor one another, and give that person your name as part of that honor. It is about total committing to one another. It shouldn’t be taken lightly. There is a lot to be said for having a good name.
    None of my children were bastards. Even when my wife did leave, I supported them to the best of my ability until they grew up. And that is how it should be. They knew they had a father and that he was honest with them. I never said one bad word about their mother.
    When two marry, they become attached and each is a part of the other.
    The modern people are missing a lot by discarding that.

    • GSOB

      There is no marriage in heaven
      (Matt. 22:30)

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “and give that person your name as part of that honor”
      I’ve think about that sometimes.
      The modern trend of wives to hyphenate their name instead of taking their husband’s name. I believe brought to us by feminazis in one of their many avenues of subverting marriage.
      It’s like putting gloves on before you hold hands. There’s something in-between you preventing you from melding and ‘becoming one flesh’.

  • davidmpark

    Then that means my marriage beats the national average: married 14 years, dated 5 years straight before that. Stayed with her despite the multiple disabilities, the economic hardships (I legally am not allowed to work by state and county law because of her need for a caregiver), begin disowned by my side of the family (all Leftists; they demanded I divorce my handicapped spouse – I demanded they #$%& off), and working for a successful marriage with someone who is degenerating before my eyes.

    This is what marriage means. Those vows mean something!

    • PotHead69

      You sound like a taker to me. Oh wait, you have issues? Oh well, then carry on with your taking.ill keep on making.

      • davidmpark

        Taker at gunpoint. Local laws say that with such a situation as ours, we have to prove I’m earning an above poverty-level income before they’ll let us off the programs. Since I’m also not legally able to work ’til there’s a full-time aid for her, then it’s a fun catch-22.

        We did try to cancel programs once and got a fun and exciting visit from DCFS.

        Make all the snide comments you want – unless the laws change, we literally have no choice.

      • daniel1154

        And you sound like an jerk to me. You’re going to keep on making? Making what? Making a fool of yourself?

    • Steve

      YES SIR!! Godspeed and God Bless to you both.

      • davidmpark

        Thank you!

    • nekksys

      I feel the same way for mine. I would NEVER abandon her for any reason. THAT is what makes a marriage.

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      • Mark Power

        The current anti-male courts and society in general make any man who marries a chump. Beta male bucks are paying for the feminists’ lifestyle.

        • jeffery147

          MGTOW-Hello brother.

    • JSB

      Jesus Christ will bless you, Sir.

      • davidmpark

        He has and will. And may He bless you and yours. :)

    • Mondobeyondo

      They do. Marriage vows mean somethning. That is what kept out people together.

      And I still believe in them. I do not care what anyone says. Marriage is marriage. Man and woman, together forever, until dealh do they part. Did you forget your wedding wows? I mean vows? (Yippers, that was deliberate)

      Prove it. Prove it. I dare you.

      Your wife gets lupus? Will you leave her? No way. Your husband gets pancreatic cancer – will you leave him? Hope not. That is what I am talking about.

    • K2

      you did a good thing by not divorcing her.

      I wanted to ask you…..because they asked you to divorce here……they were leftists?

      • davidmpark

        Most were all over the spectrums.

        Leftists on my side were socialists, national socialists, communists, progressives, secular-religious (their secular ideals became a religious identity), political occultists, etc. etc. And some mixed LDS theology into their political views and made it much worse. They said stuff like: “r*****s can marry when gays can’t?”, stupid stuff about eugenics and how loving it is, messing up the gene pool (which didn’t apply as it’s an acquired brain injury, but they didn’t care), complaints about her not helping their social circles, and so on.

        And on the other hand, those who claimed to be on the right-side spectrum were no better, really. They wanted me to divorce her because it harmed the family, messed up values, no self-reliance, “you’re on your own”, takers vs makers, “your marriage doesn’t help my business”, and so on.

        Both their actions and results were harmful regardless of which spectrum was talking. The actions taken and results are the same.

        • K2

          I agree. Anybody who says such things, no matter what side of the political spectrum they are on, is wrong.

          • K2

            When a person marries someone, they have to be there for them, through sickness and poverty too. This applies to both men and women.

    • Priszilla

      Love is when you stick together no matter what family and “society” says about you two.

      You are doing good. Don’t mind the rest of the world.

      • davidmpark

        Society has been an issue in this. Emotionally and mentally she’s a 12-year-old in a 38-year-old’s body. We get some of the worst comments imaginable from complete strangers, at church, kid’s school, shopping centers, occasionally from her family, constantly from mine, et al. She can’t help her behavior or her memory problems most times. And because the scarring is under her lovely hair, people can’t seem to reckon what’s up without an explanation.

        I took her out for mother’s day dinner two days ago and had to help with menu selections as her diabetes and medications limit her choices. And because of the memory and cognition issues she can’t remember what her diet is. So, I helped her with ordering and some businesswomen at the next table were audibly badmouthing me as a “typical controlling man” and other slurs.

        Using EBT at the store; can you imagine the glares we get? Kids call it the “evil” card, and rightly so.

        Really, living like this is impossible in this society.

        • Priszilla

          I’ve got glares and stares and giggles all my life.
          I’m 50 now. Hearing “queer” jokes since I was 13 or so. At least became aware of them then.

          “Great” way to grow up as a kid. Trying to find a girlfriend to become “normal”, always, ALWAYS, like a magnet finding boys. Girls only after being made aware of them by others.

          My partner of 20 years is more daring than me. Sometimes, in the dark, when nobody can see, we walk hand in hand…

          I either choose to ignore the whisperers and starers, or I look at them. Depending how I feel. I try not to hide myself anymore.

          Now even more people stare at me and it amuses me.

          I am not a loud person. Verbally or visually. So, pride parades made me cringe for years. Wouldn’t want to be seen anywhere near them. Now, I admire all those who started them, and didn’t want to hide anymore.

          There is no point in hiding and apologizing.
          Next time you get a glare, look back, and smile. :-)
          Next time people whisper at the next table, invite them to sit on your table, for better company.

          Be proud of what you are doing, and show it.

          People will never shut up. But that is their life.

          Enjoy yours and take care of your wife and yourself.

        • Anonymous

          Those that are judging you would be wise to remember that “whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap,” and “judge not, lest ye be judged.”

          • davidmpark

            What’s more is I need to avoid doing it back. So long as I don’t make the first aggression nor seek revenge, the Lord will fight my battles for us.

        • nekksys

          You, sir, are a SAINT and I commend you for persevering.

          • davidmpark

            We have to earn salvation each and every day. I will consider myself a saint when this life is over and I go before God knowing that I’ve done my best. Right now, I’m merely a man. But thanks for the compliment. :)

      • Hammerstrike

        Same for the rest, it is not because society “says” so that it is automatically true.

    • Cee

      When I tell most people that I have been married 46 years and met my wife when I was seventeen and she was fifteen, they are astounded. How could you do it. Easy. Just one day at a time.

  • Captain Canuck

    I would like to see a statistic about how many of the 92.3 million marriages in were actuall HAPPY.

    • GSOB

      Few men say that renting sexual favors from strangers is a better deal for them than bearing the burden of supporting a wife.

      • anonymous1

        Isn’t it amazing the amount of money some men are willing to spend on lap dances? Isn’t it amazing the amount of money some men will spend for a stranger to strip her clothes off in front of him? Yet, take that same woman and put her in an office answering phones at that same man’s business and he only wants to pay her minimum wage, and he even complains that he has to pay that much for someone to answer his phones.

        I wonder what men will have to say for themselves when they are before God?

        Every woman is someone’s daughter, sister, etc. If a man doesn’t want his daughter to do something, why is it o.k. to demand it from another person’s daughter? Is your daughter better than another person’s daughter? How will men answer God if He asks that question? Note that while society is a respector of persons, the Bible says that God is not.

        • phaggy butterbutt

          females aren’t persons, they are parasitic bottom feeding garbage.
          What do you suppose god will have to say about your rebellion of witchcraft ?
          How about the 55 million babies sacrificed to satan ?

    • Mondobeyondo

      Not hard to figure out.

      Just get the stats on how many people were divorced, abused domestic violence rates, lying, cheating, hand grenades tossed at their spouse, etc. All by the ones who they declared “to have and to hold, through sickness and in health… till death do [them] part”.

      Then determine how many of those incidents go UNREPORTED. It’s not a pretty picture.

      • Priszilla

        Well, those are the “normal” people.

  • davidmpark

    Okay, I really want to see how far I can go with this:

    Book of Isaiah, Chapter 3 basically says Judah and Jerusalem will be punished for their disobedience—The Lord
    pleads for and judges His people—The daughters of Zion are cursed and
    tormented for their worldliness. Now keep this in mind: in the LDS faith we believe that Zion, the New Jerusalem will be built on the North American Continent – Israel will be built up as “Israel” centered at Jerusalem. This means two major religious centers, Israel and Zion, will be built simultaneously on two separate continents. So, in our faith we see the following in light of happening in the US. Isaiah 3:16-26.

    “16 Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:

    17 Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts.

    18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,

    19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,

    20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,

    21 The rings, and nose jewels,

    22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,

    23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the veils.

    24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of ca stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.

    25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.

    26 And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.”

    This mean because the daughters of Zion are acting like reality TV divas, their mighty men will die in “the war.” This war mentioned is interpreted as the Gog and Magog war.

  • GSOB

    Studies have indicated that married men live longer than unmarried men. They are less likely to commit crimes than unmarried men and they are less likely to become social misfits than unmarried men.

    • davidmpark

      Can’t argue with that. Good point.

    • PotHead69

      Studies by whom exactly? Christian Right propagandists?

      • Sonofgary2

        No, the study was done by Atheistic Left propagandists/sarc/

    • Spy#1

      And also be hit up for money by married family members…kiss my a**.

    • Priszilla

      Well, if that is right, why are republicans still blocking gay marriage? It would get two men married at the same time, much more efficient than hetero marriage.

      Lower crime rate would mean less profit in private prisons, and less profit for gun manufacturers.

      Can’t have that.

      • GSOB

        Marriage is to be in terms
        of the husband’s calling before God. He takes a wife to assist him in his
        work, by which he extends the kingdom of God in history. If he takes a wife who does not share his view of God, man, law, sanctions, and the
        future, he compromises his work.

        Also…..
        Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
        (II Cor. 6:14)

        • Priszilla

          “If he takes a wife who does not share his view of God, man, law, sanctions, and the
          future, he compromises his work.”

          Exactly!

          My boyfriend shares my view of god, man, law, the present and the future.

          We are basically made for each other. He is a great cook and carer, while I earn more money, and do the fixings at home.

          I prune the trees in the garden, and he plants the flowers.

          • GSOB

            Good..
            but you left out sanctions.

          • Priszilla

            Probably for lack of understanding. English is not my first language.

            I put in presents instead.

          • phaggy butterbutt

            Does your boyfriend hold toilet paper at your bum while you are farting out his seed ?

  • Iceman

    Do what I did, marry a woman from a more family centered country. Been married for twenty years and while we had some minor issues, the family comes first because jobs come and go, money comes and goes, but a strong family is the best. Just be sure to tell her that you are not going to import her family here!

    • Toronto feminists want richmen

      Neofeminism came from Toronto and theres no looking back at the destructive behaviour it caused to heterosexual marriages.

  • Rainwaterrunningdog

    With the exception of mental/physical abuse divorce, living together unmarried would barely exists in society. Without the government financial handout, without welfare, food stamps, paid housing and the zillion other government funded programs (money taken from the working class and distributing to another group) divorce would be minimum. Society has relinquished responsibility on individuals allowing the majority of population rely on others to pay for their bad judgment, mistakes and irresponsible actions in relationships/marriage. Children pay dearly for divorce so does society paying for more programs for screwed up kids. The family structure IS the backbone of society. Whether the destruction of the family is planned or not, society will return to the original function of the family structure in order just to survive. The funding for individuals dysfunctional, frivolous and screwed up relationship outcomes will be ending soon because society cannot keep funding this stupidity.

  • xander cross

    Michael is beating around the bush on this article. The main reason why so many people are not getting married is because of CHILD SUPPORT and SPOUSAL SUPPORT. ALIMONY as well.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Wouldn’t deny it. Greed seems to be the hallmark of the current generation.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      That would be pointing your finger at allowing govt to control marriage. You sure you want to do that?

      • xander cross

        Not at all, I just stating the reasons why so many men wish to remain single because as we all know, if you don’t pay child support, you end up in jail, suspended license, suspended passports, and garnishment of all income. That is one of the main factors of why people are not getting married today. Alimony as well.

        • Toronto feminists want richmen

          In Canada, the neofeminists have taught females that a single male is a predator, child molestor and rapeist without a shred of evidence. The irony is that the neofeminist teachers escape responsibilty when they are caught in the restroom with a minor. Most of those teachers are married or living on alimony, yet they have inappropriate relations with preteen students? Sickening!

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          I was stating what you implied but didn’t explicitly say.

          Why do men these days get stuck with those things?
          … because Americans let govt control marriage.
          I was wondering if you wanted to do that given that you’re a leftist and you’ll get wrath for straying off that plantation.

          Got it now?

          • Gay Veteran

            totally agree that government should not control marriage

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            hehehe I’m hesitant to agree with you because I know there’s a line somewhere in there where it will diverge sharply from you.
            The flip side to that is none of you has the right to wander into someone’s church demanding they marry you.

          • Gay Veteran

            people like you are like a stopped clock, you can be right twice a day.

            “…none of you has the right to wander into someone’s church demanding they marry you….”

            great strawman (as usual), the only thing we demand is equal rights under the law

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Strawman?

            I’d say the strawman is the pole smoker asserting he hasn’t got equal rights.

            You indeed do have equal rights and you have more rights in this country than almost every place on the planet.

            You sword swallower brigades are crying about the separation of church and state out of one side of your dong laden mouths and then demanding govt get into religion to r.e.d.e.f.i.n.e. marriage out of the other. Sorry dolt, you already possess the right to run out and get married, you just don’t like what marriage is.

            LOL, I knew you’d get it wrong. Well I guess it’s better I’m right twice a day than not at all.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…You indeed do have equal rights….”

            in some states

            “…You sword swallower brigades are crying about the separation of church and state out of one side of your dong laden mouths and then demanding govt get into religion to r.e.d.e.f.i.n.e. marriage out of the other….”

            sorry bung licker, but CIVIL marriage has nothing to do with religion

            “…Sorry dolt, you already possess the right to run out and get married, you just don’t like what marriage is….”

            yeah Einstein, and Blacks in the 1950s had equal rights, that is IF they married other Blacks (but NOT Whites).

            your type never changes

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Oh ok actual bung licker. In that case, CIVIL marriage is also defined the same as religious marriage and you ballchinians are still trying to redefine it.

            Sorry, poopy pants, this has nothing to do with the 1950s.

            I mean, unless you want to compare democrats using the force of govt on people then and democrats wanting to use the force of govt on people now.
            Yup, you people never change. You were slavers and racists then as with now.

          • Gay Veteran

            man, what a potty mouth. your wife must use your mouth as a toilet.

            “…CIVIL marriage is also defined the same as religious marriage….”

            hey Einstein, the Catholic Church does not allow divorced people to marry in the church, yet they can go down to the court house and get married.

            “…You were slavers and racists then as with now.”

            ever hear of the GOP’s Southern strategy? Google it.
            after 1964 the racist white Democrats became racist white Republicans

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            *yawn* You’re trying to equate civil marriage and the catholic church. Non-sequitor
            Ya, I heard of the southern strategy. Have you ever heard of over 100 years of democrat filibusters of ALLLLLLLLL civil rights bills including 1964?
            Of course the SS a lie and you know it. Please cite the racist president that used it and then turned around and hammered blacks.
            Ahhh, be very careful here moron, you mouth breathers and your SS lies can easily be refuted when I start rattling off the work Nixon did on behalf of American Blacks…. So give it a shot or should I should I just call you a LIAR now?

          • Gay Veteran

            “*yawn* You’re trying to equate civil marriage and the catholic church. Non-sequitor….”

            hey junior, do you EVER read the garage you post?!?!?
            you’re the one who said:
            “…CIVIL marriage is also defined the same as religious marriage….”

            “…Of course the SS a lie and you know it. Please cite the racist president that used it and then turned around and hammered blacks.
            Ahhh, be very careful here moron, you mouth breathers and your SS lies can easily be refuted when I start rattling off the work Nixon did on behalf of American Blacks….”

            REALLY?
            “In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican Party strategy of gaining political support for certain candidates in the Southern United States by appealing to racism against African Americans.
            Though the “Solid South” had been a longtime Democratic Party stronghold due to the Democratic Party’s defense of slavery before the American Civil War and segregation for a century thereafter, many white Southern Democrats stopped supporting the party following the civil rights plank of the Democratic campaign in 1948 (triggering the Dixiecrats), the African-American Civil Rights Movement, the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965, and desegregation.
            The strategy was first adopted under future Republican President Richard Nixon and Republican Senator Barry Goldwater in the late 1960s. The strategy was successful in winning 5 formerly Confederate states in both the 1964 and 1968 presidential elections. It contributed to the electoral realignment of some Southern states to the Republican Party, but at the expense of losing more than 90 percent of black voters to the Democratic Party. As the twentieth century came to a close, the Republican Party began attempting to appeal to black voters again, though with little success.
            In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the NAACP for ignoring the black vote and exploiting racial conflicts.”

            “…And no, all but 3 dixiecrats were ALWAYS democrats. That whole changed sides is just one more of your outright leftist LIES.,,,”

            like I said, after 1964 the racist white Democrats became racist white Republicans. In case you haven’t figured it out by now, I was talking about the VOTERS.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Well, perhaps if I posted a “garage”. Meanwhile, your huffing and stomping of your feet doesn’t negate the truth.

            So when Jimmy Carter swept the south (which by my math was after 1964), was that the racist democrats? Who was that? After all, they switched sides.

            Which is of course and outright lie that you’ll continue to yammer, even though I just debunked it.

            Sorry, repeating your lie doesn’t make it correct the second time through.

          • Gay Veteran

            just so my comments don’t get blocked:

            “…Once again, all but 3 dixiecrats stayed democrat….”

            ROFLOL, guess you forgot all about Strom Thurmond:

            “James Strom Thurmond (December 5, 1902 – June 26, 2003)…ran for president in 1948 as the States Rights Democratic Party candidate, receiving 2.4% of the popular vote and 39 electoral votes. Thurmond represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 until 2003, at first as a Democrat and, after 1964, as a Republican. He switched because of his opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act…”

            now who was another racist Democrat? oh, Robert Byrd!

            “Robert Carlyle Byrd (born Cornelius Calvin Sale, Jr.; November 20, 1917 – June 28, 2010) was a United States Senator from West Virginia. A member of the Democratic Party…Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, serving as a recruiter and leader for his chapter, but later left the group and denounced racial intolerance….”

            So you have Byrd (a Democrat) repent of his sins, and you have Thurmond (a Democrat turned Republican) who NEVER repented!

            “…And when Jimmy Carter swept the south (which by my math was after 1964), was that the racist democrats?….”

            wow, how many Democrats have swept the South since the Voting Rights Act of 1964???

            and I guess you forgot the little fact that Carter was from Georgia? and I guess you also forgot Carter was running in 1976 when the country was sick and tired of Nixon/Ford?

            “…And please cite the specific parts of the Southern Strategy that were racist? As announced by Nixon or any of those people. Be specific. Please, no citing Daily Kos liars….”

            remember REPUBLICAN Lee Atwater?

            “…Lee Atwater’s Infamous 1981 Interview on the Southern Strategy…The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:
            You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*****, n****, n****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N****, n****.”….”

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            “In 2005, Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman formally apologized to the NAACP for ignoring the black vote and exploiting racial conflicts.”
            And if only we could get the democrat party, which does it to this day, to do that.

          • Gay Veteran

            gee, which party is STILL trying to block Blacks from voting?

          • davidmpark

            You mean like the Black Panthers were intimidating people in Cleveland?

          • Gay Veteran

            was that the case the Bush administration refused to prosecute?
            ALL voter intimidation should be punished.

          • davidmpark

            You’re quite the revisionist. Obama’s DOJ rejected enforcement, too.

          • Gay Veteran

            still can’t read, eh?

            did I say anything about Obama?

            and as I did say:

            “…ALL voter intimidation should be punished.”

          • davidmpark

            I don’t care if you didn’t say anything about Obama. You don’t control the narrative nor do you control what really happened, nor do you control me. Deal with it.

            You want voter intimidation to be punished – you got a mouth and two hands, go get justice. Or are you just all mouth; no trousers?

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, relax, don’t get all excited.

          • juice

            Hey GV do YOU read the “garage” that you post? Even the trolls aren’t what they used to be, sigh.

          • Gay Veteran

            garage? sort of hard to post a garage, moron

          • Gay Veteran

            yes, strawman:

            “…none of you has the right to wander into someone’s church demanding they marry you…..”

            NOPE. But we do “wander” into a courthouse demanding a marriage license

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Umm ok.
            You people aren’t forcing Christians to service and accept your abomination. Glad to know that. Meanwhile…
            So ya, no strawman. You’re just a liar.

          • Gay Veteran

            you keep calling me a liar and yet you are INCAPABLE of proving it.

            “…You people aren’t forcing Christians to service and accept your abomination….”

            maybe you’re talking about wedding cakes. of course baking a cake is not a religious act, is it.

            “…You’re just not smart enough to be a lawyer and your logic is as hammered as your bung hole.”

            the only thing being hammered is your bigotry, sh* t for brains.
            now go ask mommy for some milk and take a nappie

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Ya, I’m more than capable. You’re still just too stupid to know it.
            You: Conservatives want to outlaw contraception
            Me: Oh wait, here’s the actual text of the law . Sorry, you’re wrong.
            You: nu uhhhh
            You: Southern Strategy, switched sides, racsits.
            Me: Oh wait, here’s the real history, here’s the co-author of the SS, here are your heros.
            You: Nuuu uhhhh.
            Ya, I’d say you have all the credibility a pole smoker should have in this venue.

          • Gay Veteran

            you have a TRULY amazing record of getting everything wrong!

          • juice

            No no no, gay vet, we were there, we saw it all. You LIAR! And good grief are you ever bad at defending yourself. Keep on sockin it to him, Malcolm! Score: Gay vet: 0 Malcolm: like, 54

          • Gay Veteran

            we? oh noez!!! another troll with multiple personalities

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Xander: I love Tom Leykis’ word for alimony: “vaginamoney,” which he defines as “ongoing payments for a vagina you no longer have use of.”

      • Toronto feminists want richmen

        Canadian neofeminists, especially middle class Toronto women, look for rich men and they would do anything for access to a rich man’s wealth. Most Toronto middle class women are neofeminists. The city that brought you the SLutWalk.

        • El Pollo de Oro

          Here in the BRA, I’ve known so many guys who had big bucks and remained permanently single because they didn’t want to get beaten and pummeled by the BRA’s draconian divorce laws.

        • Hammerstrike

          Toronto feminists?

          youtube.c o m / watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q

    • Hammerstrike

      Yes, entitlement mentality is the reason so many people are not getting married.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Oh gosh. This is gonna burn up the phone lines, as some talk show hosts would say.

    Marriage was approved by God, and ordained by God, as between a man and a woman. Any other association (man with another man, woman with another woman, man with a goat, what have you) is considered an abomination against God.

    The Lord will NEVER approve a so called “marriage” among homosexuals. Never. Because He did not create marriage for that purpose.

    So there ya go.

    • PotHead69

      Who gives a crap?

      • Tim

        Many of us here do.

      • Mondobeyondo

        Remember, just because you think it’s right, doesn’t make it right. And just because you think something doesn’t exist… *whew*

        Kinda like, “I don’t believe the sun exists. I KNOW I’m right!. There is no sun!!”

        Okay. Whatever.

    • Toronto feminists want richmen

      Come visit Toronto, Canada where the Canadian justice system is lenient on female lesbo child predators, but a straight male is viewed as a child predator for simply being male.

      Oooo, and every year Toronto hosts Gay Pride parades, and nobody doesn’t criticize that the gays do orgies in front of children. The Toronto District School Board endorses the blasphemous Gay Pride Parade to 6 year old kindergarten students, but here in Canada the neofeminists are forcing lawmakers to restrict the heterosexual marriage of a male and female by forcing neofeminism and advocating that the age of consent be raised from 16 to 21, but only for straight males because neofeminists, lesbos and gays are oppressed.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…Marriage was approved by God, and ordained by God, as between a man and a woman….”

      guess I missed that in the Old Testament

      • Tim

        It’s in the very first book of the Old Testament. Go read it. Then read Genesis chapters 18 & 19 to see what God thinks of homosexuality.

        • PotHead69

          Nah.

        • Gay Veteran

          your “god” didn’t like us eating shellfish either, ROFLOL.
          more seriously, your “god” didn’t have a problem with slavery

      • phaggy butterbutt

        You can read it while serving as a public toilet in hell, phag. Or is that how you ‘served’ in the gayforce?

        • Gay Veteran

          hey troll, ask your daddy, he “served” me

    • Priszilla

      Jesus said: anyone is welcome as long as he believes.

      I wouldn’t care about marriage, if my boyfriend would have the same rights as I have when it comes to moving to another country.

      When you want to take your girlfriend with you, you just marry. With a boyfriend that’s not so easy.

      That’s exactly why I don’t pay tax in my home country, but in the place were I can live with my boyfriend without being bothered.

      .

    • Priszilla

      Let me guess – you are all descendents of Adam and Eve?

      So you live in an incestuous relationship with your blood relatives?

      No wonder you are so retarded. :O

  • Mondobeyondo

    Which begs the question —

    “As a straight, heterosexual male, would I consider marrying a male of a similar sexual orientation?”

    Umm – no, I would not. For several reasons.
    (Mondo’s opinion’s only!!!)

    As a straight hetero male, I would think it rather disgusting to think of such a thing. So yes, there’s no chance of me and Elton John getting together, aside from a musical collorabation. Assuming I were so lucky.

    • Priszilla

      “As a straight, heterosexual male, would I consider marrying a male of a similar sexual orientation?”

      Of course not.

      But as a gay, homosexual male I have no problem marrying my partner, provided the state permits it.

      As a gay, homosexual male I would not consider marrying a female.

      However, there are Iranian and Chinese websites, where lesbian couples find gay couples for a double wedding to please family and society and whomever wants to be pleased.

      So, desperate people find desperate solutions.

  • GSOB

    The marriage environment was re-designed by God after Adam’s sin to thwart man’s plans.

    It now automatically imposes costs on him.
    He must give up the things he wants in order to gain things he wants even more (that is.., marriage).

    One of the things he must give up is leisure.
    He has no free time.

  • Kim

    the institution and tradition of marriage is obsolete–the government, and the gay agenda, is doing its best to
    facilitate its demise. weak families make weak
    communities, and the government steps in to “fix” things right on schedule (ACA, SNAP, ABAWD, et cet….)

    no one is loyal and/or family oriented anymore. too many distractions, no support, not even main stream
    religion supports marriage and family anymore. sad.

    • anonymous1

      I recently read something about multi-generational families. Whites seem to be the least family oriented and seem to have more of the “every man for himself” attitude. Many whites seem to prefer to compete against their family and feel superior to their family. Some other cultures and heritages seem to have more of the “a rising tide lifts all boats” attitude, and they seem to want their entire family successful and well cared for. One family member’s success means success for the entire family.

      Most of the homeless people that I encounter are white Americans.

      • Kim

        I would agree, although I think ethnic women put up with much more in terms of abuse, adultery, alcoholism, et cetera, than a white American woman. Im not sure if it because they feel stuck or if it’s the cultural stigma of divorce…I’m not making a judgment, just an observation. I left my husband because he was abusive. It broke up my family but I couldn’t take another day. I’m much happier, but I would have preferred to stay married under better circumstances.

    • Gay Veteran

      listen darling, don’t blame gays for you hets screwing up marriage. take some personal responsibility!

      • PotHead69

        Let’s pick the smallest minorities and blame everything on them. Same old tired white losers.

      • Priszilla

        Responsibility? Blaming the government and parties and gays is much easier.

  • Oldphartbsa

    I make decent money and have been married to the same woman for nearly 36 years…infidelity was never an issue when I was young. I was too butt ugly.

    Now my money makes me much more attractive, but I’m too tired to deal with another woman or carry on lies

    There is the wish, then there is the reality. There are hot prospects out there; but I literally owe my wife my life. At the age I am (54) I lost all interest in other women other than mental fantasies when I’m with her.

    Yeah, she’s a bit of a cow, but I’m not too fabulous these days either…and both of us earned every pound, scar and mar from a lifetime of honorable fights with the world.

    There comes a point in your life when you not only love your wife; you respect them for who they really are. And you don’t know who they really are until you endure adversity with them. (We’ve gone through a lot of adversity early on.)

    After nearly 36 years of marriage, I know that either one of us could rescue a kid or young adult from the street and bring them home with no explanation and no expected end date. We’ve done this multiple times.

    No one hungry will be unfed in our presence. Period.

    No adult will be belittled in our presence. Period.
    Random Acts of Kindness are unquestioned by either of us.
    .
    Volunteer where you believe it does the most good to families at the time.
    You don’t give up on a partner like that. She’s been that way her entire life.
    You should never divorce over stupid, trivial stuff that’s age, ego, or money related. You divorce when you have life philosophy differences.

    • anonymous1

      “She’s a bit of a cow.”

      Wow. I wonder how loved a woman might feel to hear her husband say such a thing about her? For a woman that has been there through better and worse, and earned everything she has, it seems there might be a more respectful, loving description for her than “she’s a bit of a cow,” in my opinion.

      I wonder what would happen if women started demanding that men enlarge specific body parts, reverse the results of gravity or ageing, and remain the same waist size as the fittest man on the planet is, for a lifetime. What if women started talking about men the way some men choose to talk about and describe women? What if women made songs about the specific measurements of men, ALL of their measurements? I wonder how men might feel if they were viewed and treated in the same manner that many women are viewed and treated?

    • Jodie Lynn Gaeta

      Your dear wife is “a bit of a cow”? I trust you meant it affectionately.

      • phaggy butterbutt

        He meant what he said. All American womyn eventually become fat, lazy and utterly useless. Jabba the american female. What a disgusting creature.

        • Jodie Lynn Gaeta

          Can’t get a woman so you might as well diss them all.

  • anonymous1

    The game is rigged. There are people that are purposely making everything so expensive that middle-class and poor people cannot afford marriage, or children. Many married couples have expressed that they would love to have children, but simply cannot afford to. When one sits down and figures all of the costs of pregnancy, childbirth, raising a child and sending them to college so they can get a decent job, many married couples realize that they simply cannot afford it. Those that set the prices are making children, food, clothes, gasoline, etc. expensive on purpose to discourage Americans that love freedom and liberty from having children, since they would likely pass those beliefs to their children. Some wealthy have stated that the poor should not be allowed to have children. Some wealthy have even stated that the poor and working class should not be allowed a hot shower and that luxury should be reserved for the wealthy alone. There really is no end to the coldness and cruelty of some humans. Does anyone truly believe that the poor are poor by choice? Many poor people work so hard that they end up with medical issues, yet their pay does not reflect how hard they have worked.

    • PotHead69

      You folks read wayyyyy too much into this stuff. The fact is, that corporations only care about squeezing every last cent out of us that they can.

  • MarcusAurelius

    I think this article is spot in with some of the problems, but not all. Simply put, marriage is a losing proposition for most men. If 50% of marriages end in divorce and 70% of those divorces are initiated by women..how does a man stand to gain from the institution? In addition, divorce courts heavily favor women. A man can find himself booted out of his home, kept away from his kids, paying alimony, child support, court and lawyer fees; all because she said she wasn’t “happy.” And you mention single motherhood. Do you honestly believe that problem is solely based on “deadbeat dads?” There are a lot of fathers out there who have been expelled from the lives of their children through no fault of their own.

    The real problem, the real reason why serial monogamy is so rampant is because we live in a sick society where everything is about personal convenience. We don’t take our vows “in good times and bad” seriously. We only want the good; if it is no longer good…well then terminate the relationship “because you deserve better.” We live in a delusional fantasyland where we expect sheer perfection out of our partners….

    • Toronto feminists want richmen

      If you’re in Canada, in Toronto, don’t marry a neofeminist who teaches in high school. You will later regret that decision.

  • Momof4

    My husband and I have been married close to 20 years. We have 4 children. We are trying to guide them so they make good choices as adults. We would probably be viewed as fairly conservative and very traditional. So, first comes marriage, and then a child comes AFTER marriage, not before. I “preach” constantly to my daughters about wearing appropriate clothing, and not feeling Iike they have the need to let everything show. I feel like every single day we are fighting an uphill battle.

    • PotHead69

      Good luck with that. Let your kids do their own thing. they are going to whether you like it or not.

      • K2

        Nope. Not all kids are like that.

      • J.M.

        The language of a loser isn´t it PotHead?

    • XSANDIEGOCA

      When I was growing up, society attempted to reinforce what was hopefully going on in the home. I grew up in the Fifties and it all seems so quaint now but it worked! In the last 50 years, the progressive left has had its way and it shows. If you think society is at war with you now, you are right. Yet, I encourage you to continue fighting the good fight.

    • Tim

      This is the best comment I’ve read so far. I commend you.

  • Steve

    I read this article and all it did was piss me off. Not Mike but what the article spoke of. So as the father of three daughters that had to raise them as a SINGLE parent here is my comment and my advice to ALL American women and why I do not want and never, ever will have and American women in my life.

    Go to Amazon and buy the book “Men on Strike.” Learn from it. But most of you American Women will not like it and therefore fail, and fail miserably, from learning from it.

    And yes it IS WRITTEN BY A WOMAN. So maybe you will pay attention but I won’t hold my breath.

    • anonymous1

      There are good American women just as there are good and bad American men. Women in educated societies must be on strike too, as some studies show a decline in marriage among educated women.

      • phaggy butterbutt

        There is no such thing as a good American woman anymore. They are all useless drones far too simple to grasp truth. When it gets ugly, the phags and females will pay for their traitorous ways with blood. Count on it.

    • Eric Quintero

      I started talking to a Turkish girl last summer. She’s so different from American girls. Im dating a Lebanese girl now.

      Its very refreshing! I really want to move to the Middle East now. A culture that values the essentials for life. Wow. Talking to these girls has made me realize that current American culture places a much higher emphasis on wants rather than actual needs.

      I feel like this is why we have a consumer driven sheep culture. No one WANTS to wake up….but they need to.

      • PotHead69

        Really? So you are looking for a slave? Yeah I think you should move to Saudi Arabia then. Or Afghanistan.

        • Eric Quintero

          Do you get paid to troll? Or are you this stupid on your own accord?

      • K2

        Why didnt you date that turkish girl then?

        • Eric Quintero

          Shes going to school in Turkey

  • anonymous1

    Since studies have shown that Americans work more than any other industrialized country, whom has time for marriage or children? Whom even has time for a hobby?

    Some other countries work 6 hour days. Some other countries get 30+ paid days off annually. Some other countries retire while they are still young enough to enjoy it. Some other countries advertise “work/life balance” on the country’s website. The USA does almost everything humanly possible to discourage marriage, children, and the pursuit of happiness. Of course, all of those things are encouraged for the wealthy in the USA.

  • invisiblehand85

    Marriage stinks, I’ll take womanizing.

  • Mya

    just crash already. the sooner we start over the better. unreal that it keeps going on. makes you wonder ???if they kept it going this long,maybe they can keep it forever. Long Island. suffolk and nassau county budgets are comical. teachers,cops living the dream on long island. when is the reset?

    • PotHead69

      A few years away still. You can probably squeeze another 25% out of the stock market

      • Eric Quintero

        2015 seems like a good year for it.

  • Jay

    “We are waiting longer to have children and having fewer of them, but
    those children are needed for the economic future of this country.”

    Are they? No I don’t think so unless you mean that they are needed to support an aging population by stealing a very high percentage of their income to support social security, medicare, medicaid and every other welfare program out there.

    Actually with a more automated and technological society that we are evolving into less people means more quality of life for the few that are on this planet (sad but true).

    The truth is the elites look at us as a commodity to use and then discard when we are no longer deemed useful to them. The same goes for most people in our society today as the elderly are looked at as an inconvenience and just useless eaters.

    • anonymous1

      And whom is so wise and superior that they should decide whom remains on this planet and whom does not? Genetics is not a valid reason. There are plenty of cases where very simple, uneducated people have produced a genius as their offspring. There are plenty of cases where the parents might not be the most pleasant people to behold, yet their children are beautiful or handsome. I have met plenty of wealthy people that are far from the best thing that the planet has to offer. I have met poor people that are kind, empathetic, intelligent, and hard-working. Yet, whom does society hold in higher regard? Whom would society likely choose to save and whom would society likely consider disposable? I think history, and the present has answered all of the above questions.

      • DD

        I think Jay was talking about people making the choice not to have children, not deciding who lives and who dies. People do not have to have children to be happy in this world and should not have others making it seem like it is so terrible to choose to be childless.

  • Bubba Johnson

    Clinton raped an intern and Kennedy family killed one or two. The media glorifies these presidents.
    Reap what you sow.
    My garden is in and doing well.

    • Tom_F

      @Bubba, what intern are you thinking of? The one who has “come up for air” after 16 years to emphasize that it was a consensual relationship?

      • Bubba Johnson

        There were so many but it was the one he stuck the cu ban into. Not the alien type either.

  • anonymous1

    I refuse to have children that will only end up being servants to the wealthy, and those that feel they are superior and more deserving than everyone else. Let the wealthy do their own work for once in history.

  • Lanessa

    “…I feel very lucky and blessed that testimonytemple@gmail.com were able to turn our marriage around like this with his spell. My husband used to spend as much time as he could away from home with other women. Since he cast the love spell on him, My husband is now so in love with me and its so funny that my husband had not go out for weeks now!”
    –Ianessa, Portland

  • jakartaman

    Just another war on religion tactic. The progressive secularist are winning and the sheeple are to stupid to see or do.

    • nekksys

      Of special note: Marriage is not exclusive to religion.

      The aborigines of Australia, Native Americans, Vikings, ancient Egyptians, etc., all had wedding ceremonies that were not religion based. If marriage were exclusive to any religion it would be regional to the areas where that religion is practiced. However, marriage or weddings are a universal thing among humans; a public display of coupling. Most other animals have some form of “ritual” they perform before coupling. Some animals even keep exclusive mates for life. Just because we are higher order animals doesn’t make exclusivity in coupling a religious mandate.

      And what about humans before religion? Do you think they didn’t have some form of coupling? I’m certain they did simply because the marriage ritual has survived to this day as a unilateral, culture specific ceremony.

      • Priszilla

        coupling is easy.

        Think inheritance.

        Only women can be sure which children are her own.

        • nekksys

          “Coupling” is / was intended to mean “remaining as a mated pair” and not as “able to produce children.” If you had actually paid attention, you would have understood that.

          I know it’s difficult for most people these days but, next time, pay more attention to the whole post. It’s extremely irritating when people make comments about stuff they’ve only half-read and maybe 1/8th understand.

    • Tom_F

      Why are they *winning*? What are they *winning?” This doesn’t really seem like any kind of cultural battle. It is a bunch of individual decisions to not have children, and not marry, because of the financial obligation and commitment that is just too risky in an uncertain and unpromising employment and economic environment. Not seeing any winners, here.

  • grumpyhillbilly

    This is what the elite have pushed for. The irony is the lack of married with children put more strains on a system that needs more youth with potential to sustain itself. This is one of the reasons I just can’t buy into the all knowing and cunning puppet masters.

    • Toronto feminists want richmen

      The public schools started this neofeminist nonsense, but they abstain from responsibilty when students get bullied or female teachers commit criminal acts with minor students.

      Most of the public sector cronies keep their jobs because of neofeminist theories which protect the upper class of women in Canadian society.

      • Tom_F

        What is this “neofeminist” nonsense you speak of? If women can have their own jobs, and their own money, they really don’t need men or children. They can get laid anytime they want if they are decent looking, and are actually more desirable as partners. Sounds like the only losers here are men without any money, looks, or promising futures.

        • Guest

          Well eventually those jobs will go away, too and men and women will have to work togetehr again.

          • phaggy butterbutt

            No. Men don’t need womyn, never have. It is the physically weak female that will attempt to seek forgiveness from her/it’s sins of rebellion and treason. Men like me won’t have it. Time to pay wh ores, with blood, lives, pain, suffering, sorrow and misery. We intend to grind the filthy beasts back into the earth so that they can once and finally be useful. As fertilizer. Queers, probably have to incinerate their disease infected bodies.

  • nekksys

    I’ve had this discussion with a few people recently. My lady and I fall into that category of “living together.” We’re both over 40 and our children are out on their own. We honestly don’t see the need to get that piece of paper from the gooberment that says we’re a couple. To us, we have made the decision that we are married and present ourselves publicly as a married couple, only with differing family names.

    We don’t seek money thru the EIC. We don’t use food stamps or medical card. We live entirely on our own means, independent of any support from the gooberment. Our children recognize us as a married couple. We’ve been together for nearly 2 years and have yet to have a single argument over anything; major or minor. We have a relationship that is better, smoother, stronger and more functional than some in our church!

    Now, I know some are going to say, “If you’re not married, how can you feel right going to church? Shouldn’t you be married in the eyes of God??” I’ve covered that ground before as well. Here’s the deal though: If you can show me the Original Scripture* that says, “Get married,” maybe not in so many words but in clear enough language to be distinct, then I’ll marry her. So far, no theologian to whom I’ve addressed that challenge has come back with the text to prove their point. That’s because it’s not in there. It’s fuzzily implied and that’s about it.

    * “Original Scripture” is meant as Scripture coming from an original source in the original language (Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek) and not from the Septuagint, Vulgate or any other translated work.

    “Marriage,” in my purview, is an antiquated idea. What we need is more folks signing on to a solid morality and learning to act like rational, reasonable adults. Of course, that requires current adults to teach their kids how to be rational and reasonable…

    • Guest

      1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, (shacking up) each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.

      I’m sure you will disregard this as not “original scripture” or some other nonsense.

      You speak of morality and reason but you are treating your “lady” like an unpaid whore. Not a lady.

    • Priszilla

      If you always stay in your country that’s fine.

      Try to have a career, get promoted, move to a different country.

      Can’t bring your girlfriend. But no problem bringing your wife. If she’s your wife she can even get a job.
      Or just play tennis all day, get bored, meet other men …

      • nekksys

        I don’t plan on having some high-powered “career” like some would. I enjoy having time to spend with my children and grandchildren.

        But you are wrong about not being able to bring my girlfriend; if I’m willing to foot the bill, she can come right along.

        Didn’t think about that, did you?

        • Priszilla

          As I said:
          If you always stay in your country that’s fine.

          If you go to China, your girlfriend can join you on a tourist visa and has to leave after 30 days.

          If your girlfriend is from the Philippines, she gets a visa for 14 days in Hong Kong, while Europeans get 3 months visa.

          Your wife can join you and her visa depends on your visa.

          • nekksys

            And, yet again, this has no bearing on me or her. I don’t plan on living abroad ever again and neither of us have any desire to do so.

            BTW, my former sister-in-law has been living and working in Hong Kong for 2 years so far and hasn’t had to leave yet…

          • Priszilla

            If you have a working contract, you have a working visa.

            Filipinas mostly work as domestic helpers in Hong Kong.

            As such they are bound to one employer. They are not permitted to change employers or even look for another job. But that is a totally different matter.

            And as I said (now the third time):

            If you stay home it doen’t matter.

            If you don’t leave the country, you won’t need a passport.

            If you don’t ever drive you won’t need a driving licence, etc. etc. etc. etc.

            And to say it again:

            If you pay the rent, or own the house, you and your girlfriend and all other 25 girlfriends can live together as long as you want.

            I am amazed how few people know the meaning of “if … then …”

          • nekksys

            And again, IF I’m willing to pay, THEN she can come along…

            I understand If…then…else quite well. Apparently you missed that earlier…

          • Priszilla

            No, even if you are willing to pay, the visa for your girlfriend will run out after the specified time.

            She needs to leave and come back.

            You can do this a number of times until your girlfriend gets the “undesired” stamp in the passport.

            Unless you two get married.

            Or – you find some officer you can bribe to get a business visa.
            That’s what often happens. The need to live together is there, hence the supply of business visa for some money.

            This works a while until you are asked for tax payments.

            Then you need to find an agent to arrange the necessary paperwork for you – for a fee.

  • Toronto feminists want richmen

    Roosh V can explain why Toronto, Canada is one of the worst places for dating. Hint : Lesbo and neofeminism.

    • Tom_F

      Maybe it is a bad place for dating for the kind of guys who work night-shift assistant manager jobs at Denny’s. And an interesting truth is that there really aren’t very many gays of any flavor (lesbo or other), as the gay-marriage statistics are showing. So it must be the $40,000/year guys who compare every woman to the pr0n they watch daily, if I was a woman who made twice as much I wouldn’t want to date them either.

      • Gay Veteran

        “…And an interesting truth is that there really aren’t very many gays of any flavor (lesbo or other), as the gay-marriage statistics are showing….”

        logic fail

        • Tom_F

          @Gay, you know I am right, and you can’t explain otherwise. Gays are 2% of the general population at best, and while they make a lot of noise about this issue, there are very few gays going forward and getting married. In 2011, according to NPR, there were 131K gay married couples. By contrast, there are 70 million hetero married couples. There will never be any critical mass of gay marriages, they will always be unusual exceptions. I have no hate in my heart, and I’m good with gays getting married. But what the exploitation of the issue really is for, is to “normalize” gays. It will always be unusual, like watching a couple that weighs over 300 lbs. walk down the street, or seeing a 70 year-old with a 30 year-old spouse. Nothing bad or wrong, just unusual and will always be so. Show me numbers that say any different.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Gays are 2% of the general population at best….”

            gee, and how do you prove that?

            “…There will never be any critical mass of gay marriages….”

            what does that even mean?

          • Tom_F

            Just google it, lazy Gay, tons of the 2% figure (that old 10% Kinsey figure was blown out of the water, so to speak)! Here is a representative article from a source even you would endorse…”Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are”
            Garance Franke-RutaMay 31 2012, 2:17 PM ET Surveys show a shockingly high fraction think a quarter of the country is gay or lesbian, when the reality is that it’s probably less than 2 percent.

          • Gay Veteran

            2% is probably about as right as 10%:

            “…The problem in trying to understand how many gay individuals there are in the U.S. starts in this semantic soup. In the world of big data, do we count those who fit into the LGBT categories as homosexuals? What about those who don’t fit neatly into one of those categories and fall elsewhere on the heterosexual-homosexual continuum? Categorization comes down to self-identification. Those you might call gay may very well call themselves something else, and thus identify themselves neither into a standard category of homo/heterosexual nor into a meaningful subcategory. Plus, how do we count those who have same-sex attractions or experiences but who don’t identify as gay?

            Add the fact that so many people remain closeted because they are still afraid of ridicule and reprisal for their feelings (justly so in some parts of this country), and we can see how trying to quantify homosexuality in America turns into a giant mess where everyone somehow ends up offended or left out….”

          • Tom_F

            Gay Veteran Tom_F •
            2% is probably about as right as 10%:

            logic fail

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, explain why.

          • Tom_F

            relax, Gay, I will right after you explain why my request for your declaration of “logic fail” to my documented answer is 1) unanswered; and 2) answer it. Take it easy there, are you really saying that documented scientific studies (not your gloryhole surveys) are incorrect? And a proven fraud like Kinsey is just as correct?
            Again, logic fail.

          • Gay Veteran

            guess you didn’t get it the first time:

            “…The problem in trying to understand how many gay individuals there are in the U.S. starts in this semantic soup. In the world of big data, do we count those who fit into the LGBT categories as homosexuals? What about those who don’t fit neatly into one of those categories and fall elsewhere on the heterosexual-homosexual continuum? Categorization comes down to self-identification. Those you might call gay may very well call themselves something else, and thus identify themselves neither into a standard category of homo/heterosexual nor into a meaningful subcategory. Plus, how do we count those who have same-sex attractions or experiences but who don’t identify as gay?

            Add the fact that so many people remain closeted because they are still afraid of ridicule and reprisal for their feelings (justly so in some parts of this country), and we can see how trying to quantify homosexuality in America turns into a giant mess where everyone somehow ends up offended or left out….”

          • Tom_F

            actually, you didn’t answer it the first time. Or the second. Wishful thinking or identifying a ‘problem’ in your criteria does not have the same value or credibility as scientific study after scientific study with control factors, that all show 2% (at the most). This has been provided to you in response to your request for explanation of why I would say “there aren’t very many gays”. Wishing there were 5x as many as scientific surveys have evidenced doesn’t make it true, but even if it were there would still be a tiny number of gays, let alone ones who marry. Look at the real numbers of gay marriages. Tell me how many gay married couples there are in the US? If you don’t already know (and you don’t seem to know much, for a gay, about gays) there are less than 150,000, compared to 70 million hetero couples.

          • Gay Veteran

            wow, are you that obtuse?

            for the THIRD time:

            “…The problem in trying to understand how many gay individuals there are in the U.S. starts in this semantic soup. In the world of big data, do we count those who fit into the LGBT categories as homosexuals? What about those who don’t fit neatly into one of those categories and fall elsewhere on the heterosexual-homosexual continuum? Categorization comes down to self-identification. Those you might call gay may very well call themselves something else, and thus identify themselves neither into a standard category of homo/heterosexual nor into a meaningful subcategory. Plus, how do we count those who have same-sex attractions or experiences but who don’t identify as gay?

            Add the fact that so many people remain closeted because they are still afraid of ridicule and reprisal for their feelings (justly so in some parts of this country), and we can see how trying to quantify homosexuality in America turns into a giant mess where everyone somehow ends up offended or left out….”

          • Tom_F

            hat trick, logic fail.

            Q: What is 131,000 / 70,131000? A: 0.187% That is how many marriages in the U.S. are same-sex. Yes, Gay, “there aren’t very many gays”. Why is that so worrying?

          • Gay Veteran

            man you really don’t have a clue, do you?

            it is practically impossible to determine the percentage of Americans who are gay.

            ONCE AGAIN:

            “…The problem in trying to understand how many gay individuals there are in the U.S. starts in this semantic soup. In the world of big data, do we count those who fit into the LGBT categories as homosexuals? What about those who don’t fit neatly into one of those categories and fall elsewhere on the heterosexual-homosexual continuum? Categorization comes down to self-identification. Those you might call gay may very well call themselves something else, and thus identify themselves neither into a standard category of homo/heterosexual nor into a meaningful subcategory. Plus, how do we count those who have same-sex attractions or experiences but who don’t identify as gay?

            Add the fact that so many people remain closeted because they are still afraid of ridicule and reprisal for their feelings (justly so in some parts of this country), and we can see how trying to quantify homosexuality in America turns into a giant mess where everyone somehow ends up offended or left out….”

          • Tom_F

            no need to be hysterical about it, Gay! It is not impossible to determine the percentage, and scientific studies all come in around 2%. By your logic, do you think it is valid that there would be an error of 500%? If that were true, then the range of error would make it just as likely that -8% of the US pop. is gay. Read that again. And repeating a quote from a student’s essay is not the same thing as a factual argument; it is just a feeling, and you are feeling wish it were true. But it isn’t. Put your nickel down, Gay. Tell us all what percentage is gay, and what factual study you are basing your opinion on.

  • Toronto feminists want richmen

    Well ofcourse, marriage is expensive, but in cities like Toronto, Vancouver and Washington DC most of the women are neofeminists and work in public sector jobs which give high pensions.

    Canadian neofeminists only marry rich men they could swindle at divorce court. FACT.

    • Tom_F

      This fact you keep repeating is something U.S. men learned in the 1970s. Canada is going to go Muslim, and break into separatist tribal enclaves, first anyways, so no need to get exercised over the lack of females willing to put up with men who can’t provide anything they can’t get on their own.

  • KB Ramsey

    Men and women need to get away from paying any attention to the elitist trolls running the mainstream media, the movie industry, the federal government, and THINK and listen to their heart and soul. We have been MANIPULATED for to long. GROW UP AMERICA…… THROW OFF THE HORSE COLLARS OF THESE ELITIST TROLLS THAT USE YOU !!!!!

    • Toronto feminists want richmen

      Canada is filled with neofeminists and liberals it will be hard for most of them to wake up.

    • Tom_F

      @KB, not sure what you mean. Everybody on this board does pretty well speaking for themselves. but I do what I want and have the freedom to say, do, learn, travel, and pursue pretty much whatever I want. Not seeing any horse collars anywhere, just GENERALS IN SEARCH OF AN ARMY!!!

  • Toronto feminists want richmen

    nOBODY should feel sorry for neofeminists because they have taken men’s jobs, destroyed mens lives in marriage, and they are reponsible for the breakdown of society.

  • Toronto feminists want richmen

    Older rich men you mean? Toronto neofeminists marry rich men. There is a neofeminist movement in Canada which stigmatizes straight males and labels straight males as predators, rapists and child molestors. This greatly affects a man’s chances of gaining suitable employment or owning a business with the nanny state peering over his shoulder.

    What most Toronto neofeminists want are rich men. If the man is old and rich, the Toronto neofeminist usually goes on Caribbean and Sub Saharan vacations and get their D from their.

    • Tom_F

      Those Toronto women sound pretty smart. What, do you think they should set their sights on the guy who works at the tire store, divorced, balding, with a drinking problem and no money in the bank?

    • Priszilla

      Well, why should anyone be wanting marrying YOU?

  • marleyman

    Don’t get married with a marriage license. Then it doesn’t matter if gays get married. Besides, a marriage license is the strongest contract the state has over you and your spouse. It’s polygamy. You’re married to the state and your spouse. There is plenty of info on this subject on the web. My wife and I, no license. We found the only non tax exempt church in the state and found our pastor. If you really took God’s word seriously you wouldn’t marry with one. You can not serve two masters. The state is not my God, no matter how hard they try be. God’s law > mans law.

  • EconomyTrap

    This has always been the plan, to break up the family, reduce the rate of births, get the women in the workforce to have multiple tax-paying slaves, all the while the kids are given to government daycares and schools to be conditioned by the Rockefeller created Dept. of Education to become the next generation of zombie like slaves, but even more suseptible than the last generation.
    The ruling Elite want a manageable population size, easier to manage and control…
    Another good article Michael.

  • JSB

    Why are 10-year T-notes taking a nosedive and the stock market going up at the same time? What does the QE taper have to do with all this? I’m confused and also unwilling to invest in both stocks and bonds.

    • Priszilla

      Stocks and bonds are like black jack and roulette.

      If you want to invest, invest in real things, like a house, an arctic sleeping bag, and children.

      Don’t need to be your own children. There are lots of unwanted children everywhere. Give them an education, a home, a future.

  • CensoredSpeech

    There’s a big difference between fantasy and reality. Good luck with that fantasy!

  • geo wells

    White kids in school should be taught how to raise a family on a bag of beans and rice (and a welfare check). If they don’t learn to be “competitive” at this level, its the end of White people. Its happening in all White countries. Just another aspect of the White genocide problem. Diversity is a codeword for White genocide.

    • rehtona

      geo wells should be taught how to think and not to hate. If he doesn’t learn that, it’s the end of him. It’s stupidity at its finest. Just another aspect of the skinhead problem. geo wells is a codeword for hatred.

      • geo wells

        To keep the survival of your own is not hate. Why do you anti-whites always like to accuse others of motives thy don’t have? Is that what being pro-white genocide is all about?

    • PotHead69

      Don’t let the door hit you on the way out

      • geo wells

        Do you are pro-white genocide then?

        “If diversity is so great, why must
        it be enforced?”

        Whites are being blended out of existence. We have forced mass immigration
        into White countries. We have forced integration. We have forced tolerance and
        assimilation. We have more non-whites. Fewer Whites. More mixed. With a few
        more generations there will be few Whites. Whites may have only 100 yrs before
        total elimination. Its White genocide. what is likely to change the trends.

        Diversity is codeword for White Genocide.

  • DJohn1

    Most of the comments here came from either the United States or Canada. The big brother movement is alive and well in our sister country.
    I have noticed a trend. That trend is that while women live longer than men, they are often in a disabled physical state later in life.
    Most of the money in this country is owned by women. The inherit this money from their husbands dearly departed.
    Yet today, those women of independent mind, do have illegitimate children and do not have husbands sticking around to raise those children with them.
    I have seen both types. The one type has the morales of an alley cat. If it is convenient, then it is morale. And the divorce courts are full of this type of person. They give women a bad name.
    That bad name is the main reason that a lot of intelligent men want nothing to do with them.
    Women can be consumate actresses until after the wedding ceremony. Have seen that too.
    With my first wife, she was really good at that actress thing.
    My children took after me in their ability to work computers.
    When they were growing up computers were much less sophisticated. I gave them a biology program that tracks biological cycles. They used it to track my ex-wife’s cycles. Towards the last two weeks of the cycle they managed to have nothing to do with her! They managed to stay busy elsewhere.
    She eventually found out what they were doing and was she ever angry. But this Moon cycle thing is real. It effects different people in different ways. Any desk sergeant at a local police station will tell you that when the moon is full they have to keep more people hired because everything comes out of the woodwork. The entire planet of animals is ruled by the Moon Cycle to some extent or another.
    The first week, females are usually mild mannered. The second week, they are a little more critical. By the third week, they have went from Jeckle to Hide. In the fourth week, they are likely to be totally Hide to live with.
    No wonder poor males that have never dealt with this are confused by their females. By the middle of the fifth week they are nice people again.
    Not all females go through this drastic personality change. Enough do to create quite a problem if you are married to one of them and are unaware of the cycle.
    The moon cycle effects men as well, though the hormonal changes are less drastic. This is not astrology. This is a very real effect of the gravitational tides caused by the moon that has been around a very long time.
    Men and women need to deal with this if they are going to live together either as man and wife or as a couple.
    The reason that couples break up is while there is a balance where no one wins if the two people break up, the relationship survives. When they have the security of marriage, often times that balance of 50-50 is destroyed.
    When it reaches 85-15, the party contributing the 15 will break up the relationship and claim it was all their partner’s fault. This entire thing has been studied over and over again. When women reach menopause, this settles down.
    But by then, the same women are divorced.
    Menopause often means women start down the aging process at an advanced rate. Arthritic disease is often the crippling result.
    This trend is not applicable to all people. It varies considerably from individual to individual. But it is something every male needs to know before considering marriage so you are going in with open eyes.
    Divorce lawyers make a living from the above in many cases.

  • NowAlive

    It’s a good thing I have Jesus or I would be calling the doc for happy pills after reading this. Seriously though, teach children that they are evolutionarily advanced monkeys and that there either is no God or He doesn’t care what they do. When anyone challenges that notion, society and the media blow up. We now see that having morals at all will get you fired. I just read another article today about HGTV firing two brothers who were helping poor people have better homes. They are pro-marriage and pro-life. HGTV said…no thanks! We are reaping from the sins of our fathers. I’m X-Gen, from a broken family. I met my wife, married her 5 months later at the age of 18, and we’ve been together 18 years. By the grace of God, I broke the cycle. Pray for healing in this desert! Our country is collapsing from its internal struggle with right and wrong and sadly, it’s losing badly. Time for Christians to be soldiers of the faith rather than casual onlookers.

    • PotHead69

      Nah

  • Matt

    Looks like the author of this story is pro-female. Looks like you are blaming men for all of the fatherless homes and families. You bring up infidelity and men, like women don’t cheat and never do anything wrong while men are the bad guys. You women are just as bad, if not worse than men when it comes to causing a broken home. Quit posting the blame of broken homes and fatherless children all on us men. The author sounds sexist to me.

    • Priszilla

      Just look at the picture of two fathers with three children. :-)

    • J.M.

      It was to be expected. Protestantism is a woman centered religion, for all its talk and uproar over Virgin Mary’s veneration in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, there is no man more pussy-whipped than a protestant (hence feminism didn´t get kickstarted in Rome or Madrid or even in München and Vienna but in London and New York, going all the way to Sidney.

  • Me

    Sure sure blame the men, love that one.
    You get the behavior you reward. Are men doing some of these things? Yeah. On the other hand, from column B, let’s face the fact (fact) that now, upwards of 80% of the divorces are initiated by the woman. And she cashes out big time. For a long time.
    So I would expose myself to that sort of risk why again? I mean I don’t mind paying if we got a relationship and fidelity going on but come on man. Over 50-60% end in divorce, 80% initiated by the woman, and I keep right on paying for her to basically cheat on me.
    …figure out why men don’t want that deal.

    • nekksys

      Here in the U.S. we have a different piece of paper that allows us to have the benefits of being married without actually being married…

      It’s called a Durable Power of Attorney… Try it some time!

  • Brandon Bowers

    Marriage as an institution has become extremely dangerous for men. Why? Divorce Court … HALF!!

  • Tom_F

    Declining birthrates in 1st world countries is not news. Been happening in Europe and Japan for decades. The only reason it was noticed a little slower in the U.S., is because the “diverse” population also has “diverse” birthrates that cancel each other out, if you know what I mean and I think you do.

  • jtk

    When my oldest child was born in 1979, all the doctors forms requested medical information for “husband’s family”. By the time my second child was born in 1982, all forms referred to “baby’s father’s family”….”husband” was nowhere to be found. Yeap, a cultural shift.

    • Spy#1

      And now we are at “baby daddy’s family.”

  • Mondobeyondo

    A thought:
    People in the U.S. play “Call to Duty” as a video game.
    People in Ukraine play it for real.

    • Eric Quintero

      Marines in the barracks play CoD all day. Then deploy to Afghanistan and play it in real life. Or just play more CoD there, too lol

      Hey, Its a good game! :)

      • PotHead69

        I though Mexicans were only into FIFA soccer

        • Eric Quintero

          Since when have there been Mexican Marines in Afghanistan? I didnt see them over there during my two deployments.

  • Gay Veteran

    corporations have done more to destroy the family than the “progressive left”

    • XSANDIEGOCA

      I can’t disagree with you.

    • J.M.

      But they didn´t create the laws that practically criminalize fatherhood on the whims of the “wife”.

  • Piglet

    RE: “And as you will see below, many young adults (especially women) do not even want to date someone that is not employed.” When I was in college over 30 years ago we joked that a lot of women were only campus in pursuit of their “MRS degree,” only it wasn’t a joke, it was true. Not everyone, but certainly very many. I don’t blame them, either. They were seeking financial security and a college campus was the happy hunting ground. If you think a woman would be interested in an unemployed guy, then you’ll believe that Anna Nicole Smith married for love, and that Donald Stirling’s young floozy was captivated by his good looks and charm.

    In any case, a lot of people shouldn’t even be married. They make bad spouses, they make life hell for their mates, they cheat on them, they steal from them, and then they get divorced, often multiple times. I know quite a few people like this. Seeing disaster marriages all around me helped to keep me single until I was 41, and I was dragged to the altar even then.

    RE: “Fifteen years from now, one out of every five Americans will be over the age of 65. All of those elderly Americans are going to want the rest of us to keep the financial promises that were made to them.”

    Well, that is just tough, and I say that as someone who is almost 58. People have been taught by the gubbermint to believe that essentially they’ll be put on “old folks welfare” (social security and whatever else) when they hit a certain age and then they can live off the younger generation. That was never just and it certainly isn’t sustainable, and the day that becomes painfully obvious is rapidly approaching.

    • PotHead69

      So, you would do away with social,security and let the elderly starve to death like we did until after the Great Depression? Think about the reality of what you cheap kooks wish for.

      • Moog

        Deal with it. Old people don’t want young people to have stable jobs or careers, and laugh at the “entitlement generation” for wanting careers.

        Then they turn around and whine that they should be taken care of? Do you even know what entitlement means?

  • Adam Weiss

    Americans still believe in the paradigm that they are free, when the
    reality is the opposite and the US Constitution implicitly define them
    as subservients.

    Remember that this document is a summarized compendium of British Common Law,
    Admiralty Law and Canon Law (under the express guidelines and orders of
    the Vatican – read the communications between Pope Pius VI and Benjamin
    Franklin); the framers wanted to make sure that the ignorant masses
    living within the circumscribed territories called the United States of
    America remain under such condition – their ulterior and ultimate goal.

    Additionally the Act of 1871, made possible for the Vatican to manage more
    efficiently the Corporation called THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA –
    According to the Constitution, all individuals born within the
    territories in which this corporation exerts an effective jurisdiction
    are cataloged as less than human beings, they automatically lose their
    quality of natural persons by birth; instead, these people become
    financial instruments until the day they cease to exists. The lawful
    stockholders of this corporation called THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    are located at Buckingham Palace and St. Peter’s Basilica.

    In brief, ordinary Americans are indeed less than subjects of the British Crown
    and dependants of the wishes of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II;
    simultaneously, the Sancta Romana Catholica Ecclesia is their absolute
    Sovereign and dictates all aspects of their daily lives.

  • Roven

    Yes, money is a factor. But the far larger factor is financially empowered women, and the entrance of women into the workplace.

    What almost no one talks about is that the ascent of women displaced an enormous number of men from the workforce. (How could it not?) Just because we opened up career paths to women, does not mean we simultaneously doubled the number of available positions. The result has been a massive and devastating increase in male unemployment.

    The disappointing part is that female-empowerment has not arrived with an equal and relative sympathy for male displacement. Women, as your article notes, are not exactly sympathetic to male unemployement. But the stats are actually much worse than you say: The reality is that despite the dawning of the female career woman, all surveys indicate that the vast majority of women expect to “marry up”.

    So much for “equality”.

    • Eric Quintero

      Typical female logic.

      Take the top jobs and marry up? Hahaha. This is funny, but sad.

  • LIBERALMENSWALLOWSEMEN8

    does it count when gary marries his mother?

    • Gay Veteran

      is gary your daddy?

  • PotHead69

    Go back to Mexico

    • Eric Quintero

      Why? My relatives are taking back Arizona as we speak.

      Might is right ;)

      If you trace my lineage back enough, my native american ancestors were the first to settle Utah. So realistically, I should probably go back there.

      On my mother’s side I can trace my lineage back to Norwegian church builders.
      Should I go back to Sweden perhaps then? They have good Black Metal.

      • PotHead69

        Nope going back to Mexico will be fine

        • Eric Quintero

          Yeah, the only flaw in your analysis is IM NOT FROM THERE.

          So I cant really GO BACK.

          Do you understand?

          • El Pollo de Oro

            FlounderFish Church told me the same thing: go back to Mexico. Problem is, I’m not from Mexico. Family was originally from Europe, moved to what is now the BRA. Funny how cult leaders and marijuaneros forget that Mexico has a thing called IMMIGRATION LAWS.

        • El Pollo de Oro

          Pothead: Pero Eric le ha dicho que él no es de México, guey!

          Since you didn’t understand that in English, I figured I’d try Spanish.

          • PotHead69

            Ahh all are welcome here as far as Im Concerned. He’s such an azzz I’m just giving him back some douchery. I live in Los Angeles man. Being white is definitely the minority here, so I get it.

  • Eric Quintero

    Yeah you forgot the RICH older men part. Dont try to spin this one.

    Im incredibly smart and pretty good looking (I think) and Ive been making more money than 90% of my peers for the past 5 years. Ive been cheated on more times than I can count on one hand.

    Its way too easy for girls. I dont want to have to ‘date down’ just to keep her. Its not fair. Where is my quality mate? Quantity is easy. ‘Quality’ cheats on you.

    • PotHead69

      Obviously not doing the job in the bedroom.

  • Rzhayutik

    Adultery, fornication, and legalization of gay marriage doom the nations to collapse Romans 1:18-32, Isaiah 1;1-24

    • Gay Veteran

      bilge

      • Rzhayutik

        troll

        • Gay Veteran

          you must be looking into a mirror

          • phaggy butterbutt

            You can’t stand to look into a mirror. You disgust even yourself.

          • Gay Veteran

            yawn

      • phaggy butterbutt

        Is what you consume, stool muncher.

        • Gay Veteran

          LOL, potty mouthed troll

  • Moose Dr.

    The major factor not accounted for in this article is philosophical. So many don’t bother to marry anymore, thy just live together. This not factored in leaves the data almost useless.

  • notyranny

    Much is explained by understanding, not being responsible for what you do as a way of life.

  • Spy#1

    America is no longer the land of opportunity. With the majority of wealth in the hands of a few, a much lower standard of living due to globalization, and an outsourcing of jobs, Marriage is no longer a feasible option for many people. Women will continue to want to marry up with an ever shrinking pool of available men. Quite a few men are looking outside our borders to find a suitable partner. Why would you want to bring a child into this world where their only prospects will be to become a servant of the wealthy, or a futuristic slave where a corporate overlord provides basic communal shelter and meals in exchange for unregulated sweatshop labor? Things will become very interesting when the next economic calamity occurs. Today will be considered the good old days.

  • Waiting-for-the-Godot

    I see a business opportunity here.
    Counselling and psychological health- upcoming professions.

    Looks like I am losing my empathy and morality.
    God, Save me!

  • rentslave

    Yellen will just print the money.

  • Jeremy

    Have dated a young lady for 1.5 years now, and we are discussing our future. She is very special, we love each other very much, and I am so excited about what can be with her.

    I for one am very excited about marriage, about making decisions with another person in mind, caring for another person, protecting them, and helping them accomplish their dreams.

    Just turned 31, am in the beginning of my career, and really am excited about marriage. Three of my goals in life were to get married, have a family and a career.

    It is difficult building a career, but it is definitely worth it.

  • Truth

    So American men get displaced by women who are handed all the decent jobs while men get kicked to the curb, and the men that do get decent jobs get ripped off by women in divorce.

    And your solution is for men to get married more and have more kids, who if they’re male likely will have an even worse go of things?

    The solution would be to fix the ridiculous divorce laws and get rid of affirmative action. Men are the breadwinners of society, if you can’t have male breadwinners society does not work. Women do not want to be the breadwinner.

    This is simple stuff. It worked a certain way for tens of thousands of years, and now a couple of decades and suddenly the problem is men? lol okay.

    Also why do people need to have more kids when there are no jobs? How is that working out for India or any of those other third world hellholes where they get married at 15 and then pop out 15 kids they can’t feed?

  • Seth

    I think this article negates to mention that 100 years ago, marriage was a necessity for survival. Women had few career options and not much ability to be well off on their own.

    Birth control was not widely available until recently (and in some areas still isn’t). Now, many try to wait until you’re financially stable for marriage and kids – which, in this corrupt world is not likely to happen nearly as often. Who can afford either??

  • twolf

    This article fails to mention what feminism has contributed. If I was in my twenties I would absolutely stay unmarried.

  • Tim Wise

    Most of the STD’s are spread by ni99ers!

    • willkes

      Way out of line. Now go have your mom wash your mouth out with soap !!

    • K2

      The kind of people seen on this blog sometimes…

      • K2

        I was talking about you tim wise.

  • Stuey

    Any man that has a lot of money is totally crazy to get married nowadays, with the divorce rate the way it is. Then you get raked over in divorce court and pay and pay and pay.

    • quagmire

      exactly…it’s completely ignorant unless you get a huge prenup…but then the woman is like you dont really love me or dont trust me blah blah blah…losing situation.

    • Priszilla

      What happened to prenuptials?

  • Cynical Guy 42

    Those of use who are unemployed (or employed as students, for that matter) may not want to date because dating costs money.

    • Priszilla

      If you are conservative.

      Anyway, poor people always date. They just don’t drink champagne at every date.

      Try having dinner together. Everybody needs to eat.

      Sit down at the river bank, and watch the clouds, and talk and talk and talk. Can do that in a country where you don’t have to worry about muggings or drive-by shootings.

      I had so many great dates (but he was straight and didn’t realize it was a date).

  • Priszilla

    You dont need a vow and a piece of paper and the approval of an eunuch to stay together.
    20 years now together with my boyfriend.
    Marriage is now permitted in UK. So, we now start looking for rings.

  • Drud

    I do not like when Michael posts these types of articles. they tend to be divisive, and sub textually it always comes off as him having an ax to grind. I look at the threads and (even more than usual) people get off onto rants against liberals or party rhetoric, and especially get off onto Christian vs Atheist vitriol (these are always both tired and pointless, neither side will ever back down, nor should they). The point is this: I have my own personal beliefs, my own deep faith and my own existential ideas around life and the nature of the cosmos. I spend a great deal of my time and energy pondering these things from as many angles as possible, and occasionally I will join in a thread, especially where I see intellectual bullying masquerading as “logic.” However, my beliefs are MINE, they are personal and individual and even though I have every right to them, I DO NOT even need that “right.” No person or entity anywhere can deprive me of my thoughts, unless they deprive me of my life.

    Anyway, what I am getting to is this: these things MUST be tabled and we MUST recognize that we are in this together. I think we all believe in liberty, even if we fail to recognize it. For instance, all of you have your beliefs and many of you are gun owners, but would you ever wish to force you beliefs upon the others here at gunpoint? People, this is LITERALLY (and I understand the word and am using correctly) what governments around the world do every single day and ours is getting worse with each passing day. We MUST get passed the liberal/conservative and religious/atheist division, and correctly draw the lines between liberty and tyranny. We MUST do this together and we MUST do this NOW.

    • anonymous1

      Divide and Conquer has worked so well. Keep the 99% fighting with one another so the 1% can continue to get away with anything they want to.

  • HWK Schonhaar

    It’s not good for a man to be alone. Be fruitful and multiply. Two neglected Bible quotes.
    Quick facts:
    1. Single men are much more likely to commit a crime and do jail time.
    2. The economic problems in the west are not a result of government mismanagement or over-spending (governments have always wasted money). The problem is we did not have enough children!
    Two, 24 year old Italians getting married today are (possibly) supporting 12 family members with their taxes/income (2 sets of aging parents and 4 sets of grand parents). Possibly no cousins, aunts, uncles or brothers and sisters. 100 years ago, a man with six children could have 24 grand children if each child had just 4 children. Lots of offspring to help out in his golden years and lots of tax payers to pave the roads and run the (small) government.

    • Spy#1

      Quick Questions:

      1. Are married men immune from criminal activity? I want to see you quote statistics concerning domestic violence and married men. What about divorce? I want to hear a bible quote about that.

      2. Where are all these excess children going to get jobs? What does the bible say about that?

      • HWK Schonhaar

        Wow. I’m stumped. I guess I’d better study the Bible for another 30 years…but with an I.Q. of 75 it won’t help much. See you at the post-apocalyptic mixer!

    • Priszilla

      Lots of unemployed to push wages down.

      Add 0-18 year o;ds to those over 65 and put them into relation to 18-65 year olds.

      Do it for the last century (excel sheets do nicely). And the next century (take the official birth rates and death rates and estimate their future development, based on past trends).

    • DougDeGrave

      There are worse things than being alone but it often takes several decades to realize this and most often when you do it’s too late, and
      there’s nothing worse than too late.

    • K2

      They will be tax payers only if they have job, if they dont….it will backfire.

    • Anonymous

      The cost of living is too expensive to have kids. Women are forced into the workplace just so a husband and wife can meet modest monthly bills.

      I have heard that some European countries are actually offering to pay people to have children. Meanwhile, many third world countries, impoverished countries, and some cultures are having babies as quickly as they can (as soon as the deliver one, they are pregnant again). Even though many third world countries have huge populations, the country is still poor. So, why hasn’t a large population solved poverty in those countries? The truth is that the game is rigged. It does not matter how small or large a population is. There are people that are purposely making the world live in poverty.

      • Anonymous

        Watch “America’s Book of Secrets.” The episode about the world’s Billionaires is very enlightening.

        • Anonymous

          Remember how Tesla figured out how to give everyone on the planet free energy? Once the wealthy got wind of the masses getting energy for free, look at what happened to Tesla, Tesla’s notes/work, and free energy. Most of the wealthy are only wealthy due to the working class. The wealthy usually do no real work, so they are parasites on the working class.

          If things like energy were free to all, how would the wealthy continue to live in luxury? Why would the working class continue to break their backs and work from sun-up past sun-down if there was no bill collector (if energy was free)?

          Watch the DVD “Inequality For All” to learn more about economics.

  • Robert

    Jesus couldn’t come back at a better time.

    • Priszilla

      He’d be in jail very quickly.

  • Spy#1

    I am in my fifties, and the only one in my family that has never been married….let’s take a look at my family.

    1. Oldest sibling (sister) now deceased. Pregnant and married at 19 to a medical student (1964) who came from a family with money…old and new. 3 kids,…1 divorced…who all feel entitled.

    2. Second oldest sibling (sister) divorced at age 60. 6 nasty kids born back to back.

    3. Third oldest (brother). retired Naval Officer…a member of the military’s upper class. Borrowed money twice from me. It was real issue getting it back.

    4. Me (male), never married. Enlisted in the Navy at age 18…unavoidable mistake. Booted out 17 years later due to a non-violent “harassment” with a member. I was a single male who got in trouble with the military…lost my retirement due to a railroad job. Needless to say, I think you know how I feel about the military…especially the U.S. Navy.

    5. Youngest (sister) married 4 times. Used the rest of the family as a cash cow due to her over active v-a-g-i-n-a. I have personally saved her house from foreclosure, bought one of her vehicles out of repo, and helped her financially when she needed it. We are no longer on speaking terms.

    Michael…I no longer want to read your blog. Take your high moral horse and shove it.

    • Mondobeyondo

      You’re not the (atypical) Brady Bunch family! What happened??

      • Spy#1

        Looking back, I blame it all on my dysfunctional father who came from a dysfunctional family. He never wanted his children to do better than he did…and he did not do well. He was always a big military fan who was always talking about the Army and the service academies. Yet, he did not want his kids to go to college. Probably because he went to NYU after WWII, and could not cut it.

        • Casp

          Spy…

          Try to count your blessings. Nobody here wants you to continue to suffer the insults that you have.

          Try to ask yourself (from time to time) whether if you had the choice to be in perfect family harmony but be sightless or endure your familial dysfunction but be able to see to read and post which would you choose?

          Just try to lift yourself a bit…

        • Orange Jean

          Guest

          There are plenty of people out there who’ve come
          from abusive families (myself being one of them… with my mother being
          the abuser and my father the enabler). It might help if you
          tried to find one or more of those people and make friends with them – those of us who have been there/done that… can be supportive of one another. Not that it’s not always an uphill battle.

          I was very fortunate in my life that I met three women when I was young… who themselves had been abused by a parent. They became friends and supported me in ways my mother could not or would not …. and the fact that I was able to heal from that abuse I can attribute to those three women.

      • Guest

        He no longer visits this website. He is angry with Michael and everyone else. Hates the Navy especially.

    • DougDeGrave

      People with no morals often consider themselves more free, but mostly they lack the ability to feel hate… or love.

    • K2

      You did a good thing rescuing your siblings out of financial trouble. Wish a lot of other men and women were like that.

  • Priszilla

    What a bunch of whinging whinos here.

    If you don’t love the one you marry, then don’t get married.

    Don’t just marry for the looks or for political reasons or to bring countries together or to avoid war between families. (yeah, that was the glorious past before emancipation came along).

    • J.M.

      Another ignorant woman one of the most cuddled species on Earth. Next please!!!

  • Hammerstrike

    In other words, it is increasingly becoming a bad business decision.

    Future children ought to be in-vitros anywhay, like in the Space Above and Beyond tv serie, anyone remember that one?

    It is the only way to stop the degeneration of the human specie brought about by the end of natural selection, to you people who believes it should just work the natural way? Good luck running from that hungry lion!

  • Priszilla

    Try Engels: The Origin of the family, private property and the state.

    Or Desmond: The naked ape.

  • Mondobeyondo

    i have never been married. Not once, ever.

    Maybe – just maybe –
    I should consider that a blessing.

    Maybe.

    p.s. I would really want a wife someday .

  • DJohn1

    I just noticed the picture of a man, a woman, and three kids. You do realize that using outdated figures, that each of those children will cost approximately 42,000 dollars to raise? Not sure if that included college but I think not.
    That does not count the multiple sickness the family is likely to have over a 20 year period of time. Women do tend to get sick and stay that way.
    Men usually die about 5 years before their mates do. Even so they live longer than their single brothers.
    It also doesn’t include children having to come back home and start over again.

  • Bill Hammond

    Another reason for the decline in marriage is the reluctance of males to commit. They have seen what has happened to their fathers and are wary of the way men are treated in the family courts. If the mother decides she wants rid, then it is all too easy. One phone call to the police crying domestic abuse and it is all over for the father. Domestic violence has been made a priority crime and the police will arrive in minutes. It doesn’t have to be true. DV is poorly investigated in the courts which leads to false allegations being made. This is a winning strategy for any woman who wants to go it alone and they all know it. Sadly it is not a winning strategy for the children whose future life chances are severely reduced, financially, emotionally, and in every area imaginable. Of course there are many parents who are not up to the job, but that situation has been artificially created due to the deliberate dumbing down of western civilisation. This is nothing less than a huge social engineering project to take us into the new world order. The socialist intellectuals have always believed the job of parenting is too important to be left to parents. They want “experts” to raise children under the auspices of the godless state. After decades of dumbing down our children, the state has brought about a situation to further its own agenda. The future can be seen in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World. The problem is that most people believe this is just a sci-fi movie, when in fact it is the blueprint for the future. If parents don’t want this future to happen they had better stay married and protect their offspring from the sticky fingers of the state. In the end, they will come for everyone’s children.

  • Mondobeyondo

    “Do you, _____, take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife, to cheat and to abuse, to hold and to hug and to hurt, to have children you cannot care for, to be there for her in sickness when you make her sick, as long as you both shall live?”

    YOU DO???
    What is wrong with you?!

  • Mondobeyondo

    “Love and marriage, love and marriage
    They go together like a horse and buggy”

    Forget the dated relevance.
    We can’t even make it rhyme anymore!!!

    • xander cross

      Ah yes, Al Bundy.

  • Hammerstrike

    “100 years ago, 4.52 people were living in the average U.S. household, but now the average U.S. household only consists of 2.59 people.”

    Dude, in another article you asked why younger adults stay with their parents.

    I doubt there are going to be that many +65 years olds in 15 years, I rather think that in just 5 years, there will be less +65 years olds.

    How are they going to afford medications or even to eat with the way things are going? They would drop like flies when SHTF.

  • dienow

    You idealistic children really need to grow up and face reality. Marriage is an outdated, archaic system and meaningless ritual, designed for when human beings lived AN AVERAGE OF 35 YEARS!!! Happily ever after DOES NOT EXIST AT THIS STAGE OF HUMAN HISTORY. It’s all just a f^cking fairy tale, don’t you understand that? Two out of every three people COMMIT ADULTERY. YOUR CHANCES ARE NOT GOOD. Marriage is the modern-day equivalent of a dowry, only instead of the man paying for the bride to own her, the man now pays for EVERYTHING and he owns NOTHING, and must surrender all of his dignity and self-respect, even his free will, to the woman. This is how every single American marriage I have ever witnessed works. If the man thinks he has a mind of his own, he will be cheated on, left, or taken for everything he has.

    • xander cross

      Excellent comment sir.

    • quagmire

      yep $&% em all homie

  • Bubba Johnson

    Just went out with my wife of 34 Years to celebrate our anniversary. Life is good if you have your mind right.

  • xander cross

    Get rid of child support and alimony. That will solve almost 92% of the problems in this country.

    • Truth

      You can probably get rid of the other 8% by getting rid of affirmative action. Too many useless white women get cushy jobs where they don’t actually produce anything, crushing all profits and destroying the family unit that requires a male breadwinner.

      The mistake American men made is to listen to what women say they want. Women claim they want men that care about their feelings and all that other crap, but what they want are protectors that also keep them in line.

      Women never develop beyond a child like state. Even Angela Merkel resorts to tears when she doesn’t get what she wants. It is a stupid idea to ever put them in charge of men in anything.

    • DerpDerp

      So, you’re saying a guy can get a woman pregnant and leave her, and have no financial responsibility for the child?
      Wow, you sound like a responsible adult (no, not really).

  • GSOB

    This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach (I Tim. 3:1–2).

  • GSOB

    God publicly divorced national Israel at Pentecost.

    He then gave the nation additional time to repent corporately and enter into His new marriage covenant through baptism.

    When national Israel refused, He publicly executed her in A.D. 70.

    Jews survived; national Israel did not.

    Throughout the transition period, God retained His legal status as a monogamist.

    God has only one bride at a time.

  • Priszilla

    Let’s define marriage as a union between two unrelated adults who love and support each other.

    What’s wrong with that?

    And by supporting each other they do a great job of reducing the burden on society, therefore getting a tax break.

    (Waiting for all your hate-filled comments.)

    • endofUSAonitsway

      when everyone is married, no one is married.

      oh, and obviously you are a racist heterophobe, hahahahahaha

      • Priszilla

        Explain the “racist” label.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Starting to feel like one of those outcast survivors of the Clone Wars on a desert planet…surrounded by sand people and occupying my time with droids. Heh!

  • Mondobeyondo

    The family as a unit is being torn apart. It’s been that way for at least two generations now. The way to fix our current problems is to return to what made us great in the first place. What was that, you say? Umm, second problem: Education.

    We have the ability, we have the means, but we no longer have the will, and without the will to accomplish it, nothing will be done. JFK understood it. (One of the last leaders to get it.) . People going hungry in a nation that once put men on the moon. It’s beyond sad.

  • Mondobeyondo

    “The greatest thing you’ll ever learn
    Is to love, and be loved in return”

    “Nature Boy”, Nat King Cole

  • endofUSAonitsway

    all major corporations are hiring non americans at an alarming rate. game over boyz

  • K2

    If marriage was unnatural it would not have lasted so long. If monogamous was unnatural many people would not have been able to be monogamous. While some people are genetically predisposed to be polygamous, not all of them are. And those hunter gatherers evolved into civilised people who constituted various civilisations. Almost all civilisations were mono gamous (atleast most people in them were).

    Marriage might not suit some people due to various issues like money or disinterest in having kids, which i can understand. But it doesnt mean marriage has no function or is unnatural.

  • endofUSAonitsway

    comments from so many loser boys, bwahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa must be from men who are girly and ugly women

  • jj

    I am going to be a bit politically incorrect, but the author refuse to address the problem of men pussification by cooperate and social America. This process had been going on for a while now where women are now competing to be men, and men are assimilated to be more submissive. Until gender is balanced back to what it was intended to be by nature, creator, whatever you want to call it, the fabric of marriage will continue to be torn.
    Hell soon you will be able to marry your farm animal, I bet that ought to raise marriage stats…!

    • DerpDerp

      “Until gender is balanced back to what it was intended to be by nature, creator, whatever you want to call it, the fabric of marriage will continue to be torn.”

      What kind of Misogynistic tripe is this? A man needs to be macho and tough, and women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen?

      • endofUSAonitsway

        yes

  • K2

    Do you know why? I really am interested to know.

  • Anonymous

    If it is natural to have many sexual partners, why is there evidence of STDs among those with many sexual partners? No human being should be forced to stay somewhere they do not want to be. So, it is a good thing that a woman is no longer expected or required to stay in an abusive relationship, nor with a man that might bring an STD home because he can’t keep his pants zipped.

  • Anonymous

    So you believe that women from other countries are only marrying American men for love? Do you know anyone in the military, or any military veterans that you can discuss this topic with? Also, perhaps some American men are marrying outside of their own culture because what they really want is a servant and not a wife.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    I’m sure Prof. Tom Leykis would appreciate this one:

    Study: Nagging By A Spouse Could Shorten Your Life:

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/05/09/study-nagging-by-a-spouse-could-shorten-your-life/

  • Anonymous

    MGTOW

  • Truth

    I wonder how high the number of young people moving back in with their parents would be if said parents weren’t paying for their daughter’s apartment, or if the government didn’t pay for women’s housing if they have kids.

    I’d bet we’d get it closer to 50%, maybe even around 58%. You can’t have full employment, it’s impossible. When you give a man a job, and keep women out, you still wind up supporting women because they will pair up anyway. All you do by taking men out of work is removing families entirely, as women will only marry up, and you can’t have the middle of the pyramid go only for the top of the pyramid and have the bottom collapse right out.

  • Gay Veteran

    that shalt not lie.

    but keep on pushing the left/right BS

  • Gay Veteran

    oh noez! the Home & Garden Television cable channel rejected some bigots, the horrors!

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Glad to know you’re a fascist. Tell me more of your “we want equal rights” lies.

      • Gay Veteran

        man sauce guzzling moron? shouldn’t talk about your dad like that.

        funny comments coming from you after I spanked your a ss on the dixiecrats

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          You’re the one that confesses to smoking the man meat, so you can try and yammer about my momma, my papa and my greasy greasy granny, but in the end you’re the connoisseur de coc here.
          And nah, you have nothing on Dixiecrats or anything else outside of talking points.
          So carry on puny little fascist.

          • Gay Veteran

            yep, your nasty butt got spanked, otherwise you would be braying about how big a liar I am

  • Gay Veteran

    Pat Buchanan? was Rush busy? [doing drugs]

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Lemme play a little sad trombone because it’s too bad I don’t listen to Rush.
      But, If you wanna play that, I’ll take it from someone who was actually part of crafting the policy over you phaggot fascists citing you some Daily Kos any day.

      • Gay Veteran

        sorry junior, I don’t read garbage like Daily Kos.
        now before you pout, go ask mommy for some hot chocolate like a good little girl

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Nah, you just echo their idiotic talking points. That’s ok, deny if you want. I’ll be here to assure you just how sub-moronic you are.
          And once again, you’re still the girl in the conversation LMAO! Perhaps your coprophagia has blurred the lines for you just who pitches and who catches. catcher…

          • Gay Veteran

            “coprophagia”?

            awwwwww, troll using a new word.

            as for what I actually read or listen to: Zero Hedge, Paul Craig Roberts, Gerald Celente, Charles Hugh Smith, Karl Denninger, SHTF, The Burning Platform.

            yeah, a whole lot of liberals there, NOT (but then you don’t really care, because you loves you some strawman)

  • Gay Veteran

    hey Einstein, and yet there are soooooo many instances oh homosexuality in nature.

    • nekksys

      Show me ONE that resulted in offspring, then, Genius…

      • Gay Veteran

        learn to read: and yet there are soooooo many instances oh homosexuality in nature.
        that had nothing to do with reproduction

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  • veeder

    I am in the group of not wanting to get married because if money and no children for the same reason. One thing this doesn’t talk about is a Butcher in 1950 could own a house, send two kids to college and go on a vacation every year and that was in a single earner household. We can’t do that now. Our labor has been become cheap while the top earners continue to make more and more. It is sad.

    • Anonymous

      Very true. The DVD “Inequality For All” discusses the income inequality very well.

  • davidmpark

    Humanism’s okay; if that’s someone’s idea of a good time. But I really like the direction I’m going.

  • Circa53

    A lot of men have been stung in divorce courts and are very gun shy..Then again the inner city types by the millions get rewarded by the Govt. to not marry.

  • Randy Townsend

    Marriage has been failing for decades. Look at the divorce rate for 1st marriages – almost 60%. 2nd marriages? Over 70% and 3rds? Don’t bother. It isn’t marriage that’s the problem, it’s the people that get married with one foot out the door – “When it gets difficult, I’m out.” And they are. Kids are the biggest losers, ’cause they think this is normal….

  • phaggy butterbutt

    females are pretty much unnecessary, useless garbage anymore. P.S. a womyn that spreads like butter, is a sl ut, wh ore, etc. Dispised and disdained wherever she/it goes. As she/it should be. Worry not, big daddy sugar co ck, aka the gubermint will support you useless things. I will not. P.P.S. I offer genuine equality. When one of you man wanna bees spouts off to me, I rebuke it with a broken face.

  • phaggy butterbutt

    Why would or should any young man care what you ‘think’ or want ? The female is nothing but a useless, parasitic feeder. Within 5 years you will know the price of treasonous womyn.

  • phaggy butterbutt

    Good call. The entitlement princesses are the worst. Goad them into a fight then beat the stuffing out of them. It’s fun and satisfying.

  • J.M.

    Another idiot posting. Why don´t you read previous comments and see why marriage rates are going down everywhere.

  • Lenny Brooklyn

    Stay Single. There is no reason why any man should ever marry in today’s world. “Family” court is controlled by women and the laws are written to destroy men.
    Stay away. MGTOWHQ.Com Read it Learn it.

  • Ota Benga

    Reproduction is essential and necessary. Marriage is not. We will adapt.

  • K2

    You are a male? All this time i have been thinking you are a woman.

    Not that it matters, i am just saying….

    • Priszilla

      Yes, somebody hijacked my other name. So I just thought of Priszilla in the Desert.

      Just in case you know the movie …

  • Albert8184

    And the irony of the situation is that family bonds are EXACTLY the foundational bedrock needed to weather a financial crisis or economic hardtimes.

    There’s a reason that progressive Leftists are so unfriendly toward the family unit. They like every individual to belong exclusively to the state.

  • LF

    I am unmarried, will stay unmarried. I have worked to hard to get to my level of success to risk it all in the blight called our family court system. If we handled things fairly, e.g. proportional split of assets (you make 40%, you get 40% unless stay at home), support of what it actually takes to raise a child instead of based on lifestyle (like Scandinavian countries), etc. I would consider it. But, in today’s climate, it is a bad business decision and frankly, our culture has too many women with way too much entitlement to make them even bearable after about a couple of years of dating. So, I stick to what I call yearly relationships. Cheaper and I jump ship as soon as the true colors start showing and move on to the next one.

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