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The Economics Of Marriage

Marriage - Photo by Eric WardThe marriage rate in the United States has fallen to the lowest level ever recorded.  So why is this happening?  Well, the truth is that there are a lot of reasons why so many young people are choosing not to get married today.  One big reason is money.  Young adults in the U.S. are really struggling to find good jobs, and many are hesitant to take a big step like marriage without achieving a certain level of financial security first.  And as you will see below, many young adults (especially women) do not even want to date someone that is not employed.  In this harsh economic environment, money makes a big difference in the world of romance.  Another big reason for the decline of marriage in America is a seismic shift in cultural attitudes.  Americans (especially young people) do not place the same kind of importance on marriage and having children that they once did.  Instead, more Americans are choosing to "move in together" than ever before.  But if the percentage of Americans that choose to get married continues to decline, what is that going to mean for our future, and what is our country going to look like moving forward?

According to a startling new study conducted at Bowling Green University, the marriage rate in America has fallen precipitously over the past 100 years.

In 1920, there were 92.3 marriages for every 1,000 unmarried women.  In 2012, there were only 31.1 marriages for every 1,000 unmarried women.

That is not just a new all-time low, that is a colossal demographic earthquake.

That same study found that the marriage rate has fallen by an astounding 60 percent since 1970 alone.

As a result, U.S. households look far different today than they once did.

Back in 1950, 78 percent of all households in the U.S. contained a married couple.  Today, that number has declined to 48 percent.

That is a very troubling sign if you consider the family to be one of the fundamental building blocks of society.

When young people are asked why they are delaying marriage today, one of the things that always seems to get brought up is money.  There is a feeling (especially among men) that you should achieve a certain level of financial security before making the big plunge.

And it is a fact that the more money you have, the more likely you are to be married.  Just check out the following stats about income and marriage from a recent Business Insider article...

83% of 30- to 50-year-old men in the top 10% of annual earnings are married today, whereas only 64% of median earners and half of those in the bottom 25th percentile are hitched.

Now, compare that to men in 1970, whose marriage rates were 95% (top earners), 91% (median earners), and 60% (bottom 25th percentile of earners), respectively.

A lot of people like to think that "love is the only thing that matters" when it comes to marriage, but the cold, hard numbers tell a different story.  In fact, one very shocking survey discovered that 75 percent of all American women would have a problem even dating an unemployed man...

Of the 925 single women surveyed, 75 percent said they'd have a problem with dating someone without a job. Only 4 percent of respondents asked whether they would go out with an unemployed man answered "of course."

"Not having a job will definitely make it harder for men to date someone they don't already know," Irene LaCota, a spokesperson for It's Just Lunch, said in a press release. "This is the rare area, compared to other topics we've done surveys on, where women's old-fashioned beliefs about sex roles seem to apply."

Unfortunately for American men, there simply are not enough good jobs to go around.  In fact, the number of working age Americans without a job has increased by 27 million since the year 2000, and businesses in the U.S. are being destroyed faster than they are being created.

Due to a lack of economic opportunities, a rising percentage of our young people have been giving up on the "real world" and have been moving back in with Mom and Dad.  For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled "29 Percent Of All U.S. Adults Under The Age Of 35 Are Living With Their Parents".  And when you break down the numbers, you find that young men are almost twice as likely to move back in with their parents as young women are.

But economic factors alone certainly do not account for the tremendous decline in the marriage rate that we have witnessed in this country.  Shifting cultural attitudes also play a huge role.

A whole host of opinion polls and surveys show that Americans simply do not value marriage and having children as much as they once did.  For example, the Pew Research Center has found that the younger you are, the more likely you are to believe that "marriage is becoming obsolete" and that "children don't need a mother and a father to grow up happily".

In fact, an astounding 44 percent of all Americans in the 18 to 29-year-old age bracket now believe that "marriage is becoming obsolete".

And why should they get married?  Our movies and television shows constantly tell them that they can have the benefits of being married without ever having to make a lifelong commitment.

This sounds particularly good to men, since they can run around and have sex with lots of different women without ever having to "settle down".

But there are most definitely consequences for this behavior.  The "sexual revolution" has left behind countless broken hearts, shattered dreams, unintended pregnancies and devastated families.

In addition, the U.S. has become a world leader when it comes to sexually-transmitted disease.

It is hard to believe this number, but according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention approximately one-third of the entire population of the United States (110 million people) currently has a sexually transmitted disease.

So nobody should claim that the "sexual revolution" has not had any consequences.

But most Americans don't actually run around and sleep with lots of different people at the same time.  Instead, most Americans seem to have adopted a form of "serial monogamy".

In America today, most people only sleep with one person at a time, and "living together" is being called "the new marriage".

According to the CDC, 74 percent of all 30-year-old women in the U.S. say that they have cohabitated with a romantic partner without being married to them, and it has been estimated that 65 percent of all couples that get married in the United States live together first.

Many believe that by "trying out" the other person first that it will give them a much better chance of making marriage work if they eventually do choose to go down that path.  Unfortunately, that does not seem to work out very well in practice.  In fact, the divorce rate for couples that live together first is significantly higher than for those that do not.

And when it comes to divorce, America is the king.

For years, the U.S. has had the highest divorce rate in the developed world.

But it wasn't always this way.  Back in 1920, less than one percent of all women in the United States were currently divorced or separated.  Today, approximately 15 percent of all women in the United States are currently divorced or separated.

So why are so many people getting divorced?

Of course there are a lot of factors involved (including money), but a big one is cheating.  According to one survey, 41 percent of all spouses admit to infidelity.  Many Americans simply find it very difficult to stay committed to one person for an extended period of time.

As a result of what I have discussed so far, it is easy to see why people in our society are so lonely and so isolated.  Less people are getting married, more divorces are happening and couples are having fewer children.  This means that our households are smaller and we have far fewer family connections than we once did.

100 years ago, 4.52 people were living in the average U.S. household, but now the average U.S. household only consists of 2.59 people.

That is an astounding figure.

And the United States has the highest percentage of one person households on the entire planet.

But we weren't meant to live alone.  We were meant to love and to be loved.

Often, those that are being hurt the most by our choices as a society are the children.  They need strong, stable homes to grow up in, and we are not providing that for millions upon millions of them.

When you look at just women under the age of 30 in the United States, more than half of all babies are being born out of wedlock.

That would have been unimaginable 100 years ago.

And of course when there is no marriage involved, a lot of times the guy does not stick around.  At this point, approximately one out of every three children in the United States lives in a home without a father, and in many impoverished areas of the country the rate is well over 50 percent.

In addition, women are waiting much longer to have children than they once did.

In 1970, the average woman had her first child when she was 21.4 years old.  Now the average woman has her first child when she is 25.6 years old.

The biggest reason for this, once again, is money...

In the United States, three-quarters of people surveyed by Gallup last year said the main reason couples weren't having more children was a lack of money or fear of the economy.

The trend emerges as a key gauge of future economic health — the growth in the pool of potential workers, ages 20-64 — is signaling trouble ahead. This labor pool had expanded for decades, thanks to the vast generation of baby boomers. Now the boomers are retiring, and there are barely enough new workers to replace them, let alone add to their numbers.

We are waiting longer to have children and having fewer of them, but those children are needed for the economic future of this country.

Fifteen years from now, one out of every five Americans will be over the age of 65.  All of those elderly Americans are going to want the rest of us to keep the financial promises that were made to them.  But that is going to turn out to be quite impossible.  We simply do not have enough people.

In the end, the economics of marriage does not just affect those that are thinking of getting married or those that are already married.

The truth is that the economics of marriage affects all of us.

So what do you think is in store for the future of the institution of marriage in this country?

Please feel free to share what you believe by posting a comment below...

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  • Drud

    I do not like when Michael posts these types of articles. they tend to be divisive, and sub textually it always comes off as him having an ax to grind. I look at the threads and (even more than usual) people get off onto rants against liberals or party rhetoric, and especially get off onto Christian vs Atheist vitriol (these are always both tired and pointless, neither side will ever back down, nor should they). The point is this: I have my own personal beliefs, my own deep faith and my own existential ideas around life and the nature of the cosmos. I spend a great deal of my time and energy pondering these things from as many angles as possible, and occasionally I will join in a thread, especially where I see intellectual bullying masquerading as “logic.” However, my beliefs are MINE, they are personal and individual and even though I have every right to them, I DO NOT even need that “right.” No person or entity anywhere can deprive me of my thoughts, unless they deprive me of my life.

    Anyway, what I am getting to is this: these things MUST be tabled and we MUST recognize that we are in this together. I think we all believe in liberty, even if we fail to recognize it. For instance, all of you have your beliefs and many of you are gun owners, but would you ever wish to force you beliefs upon the others here at gunpoint? People, this is LITERALLY (and I understand the word and am using correctly) what governments around the world do every single day and ours is getting worse with each passing day. We MUST get passed the liberal/conservative and religious/atheist division, and correctly draw the lines between liberty and tyranny. We MUST do this together and we MUST do this NOW.

    • anonymous1

      Divide and Conquer has worked so well. Keep the 99% fighting with one another so the 1% can continue to get away with anything they want to.

  • HWK Schonhaar

    It’s not good for a man to be alone. Be fruitful and multiply. Two neglected Bible quotes.
    Quick facts:
    1. Single men are much more likely to commit a crime and do jail time.
    2. The economic problems in the west are not a result of government mismanagement or over-spending (governments have always wasted money). The problem is we did not have enough children!
    Two, 24 year old Italians getting married today are (possibly) supporting 12 family members with their taxes/income (2 sets of aging parents and 4 sets of grand parents). Possibly no cousins, aunts, uncles or brothers and sisters. 100 years ago, a man with six children could have 24 grand children if each child had just 4 children. Lots of offspring to help out in his golden years and lots of tax payers to pave the roads and run the (small) government.

    • Spy#1

      Quick Questions:

      1. Are married men immune from criminal activity? I want to see you quote statistics concerning domestic violence and married men. What about divorce? I want to hear a bible quote about that.

      2. Where are all these excess children going to get jobs? What does the bible say about that?

      • HWK Schonhaar

        Wow. I’m stumped. I guess I’d better study the Bible for another 30 years…but with an I.Q. of 75 it won’t help much. See you at the post-apocalyptic mixer!

    • Priszilla

      Lots of unemployed to push wages down.

      Add 0-18 year o;ds to those over 65 and put them into relation to 18-65 year olds.

      Do it for the last century (excel sheets do nicely). And the next century (take the official birth rates and death rates and estimate their future development, based on past trends).

    • DougDeGrave

      There are worse things than being alone but it often takes several decades to realize this and most often when you do it’s too late, and
      there’s nothing worse than too late.

    • K2

      They will be tax payers only if they have job, if they dont….it will backfire.

    • Anonymous

      The cost of living is too expensive to have kids. Women are forced into the workplace just so a husband and wife can meet modest monthly bills.

      I have heard that some European countries are actually offering to pay people to have children. Meanwhile, many third world countries, impoverished countries, and some cultures are having babies as quickly as they can (as soon as the deliver one, they are pregnant again). Even though many third world countries have huge populations, the country is still poor. So, why hasn’t a large population solved poverty in those countries? The truth is that the game is rigged. It does not matter how small or large a population is. There are people that are purposely making the world live in poverty.

      • Anonymous

        Watch “America’s Book of Secrets.” The episode about the world’s Billionaires is very enlightening.

        • Anonymous

          Remember how Tesla figured out how to give everyone on the planet free energy? Once the wealthy got wind of the masses getting energy for free, look at what happened to Tesla, Tesla’s notes/work, and free energy. Most of the wealthy are only wealthy due to the working class. The wealthy usually do no real work, so they are parasites on the working class.

          If things like energy were free to all, how would the wealthy continue to live in luxury? Why would the working class continue to break their backs and work from sun-up past sun-down if there was no bill collector (if energy was free)?

          Watch the DVD “Inequality For All” to learn more about economics.

  • Robert

    Jesus couldn’t come back at a better time.

    • Priszilla

      He’d be in jail very quickly.

  • Spy#1

    I am in my fifties, and the only one in my family that has never been married….let’s take a look at my family.

    1. Oldest sibling (sister) now deceased. Pregnant and married at 19 to a medical student (1964) who came from a family with money…old and new. 3 kids,…1 divorced…who all feel entitled.

    2. Second oldest sibling (sister) divorced at age 60. 6 nasty kids born back to back.

    3. Third oldest (brother). retired Naval Officer…a member of the military’s upper class. Borrowed money twice from me. It was real issue getting it back.

    4. Me (male), never married. Enlisted in the Navy at age 18…unavoidable mistake. Booted out 17 years later due to a non-violent “harassment” with a member. I was a single male who got in trouble with the military…lost my retirement due to a railroad job. Needless to say, I think you know how I feel about the military…especially the U.S. Navy.

    5. Youngest (sister) married 4 times. Used the rest of the family as a cash cow due to her over active v-a-g-i-n-a. I have personally saved her house from foreclosure, bought one of her vehicles out of repo, and helped her financially when she needed it. We are no longer on speaking terms.

    Michael…I no longer want to read your blog. Take your high moral horse and shove it.

    • Mondobeyondo

      You’re not the (atypical) Brady Bunch family! What happened??

      • Spy#1

        Looking back, I blame it all on my dysfunctional father who came from a dysfunctional family. He never wanted his children to do better than he did…and he did not do well. He was always a big military fan who was always talking about the Army and the service academies. Yet, he did not want his kids to go to college. Probably because he went to NYU after WWII, and could not cut it.

        • Casp

          Spy…

          Try to count your blessings. Nobody here wants you to continue to suffer the insults that you have.

          Try to ask yourself (from time to time) whether if you had the choice to be in perfect family harmony but be sightless or endure your familial dysfunction but be able to see to read and post which would you choose?

          Just try to lift yourself a bit…

        • Orange Jean

          Guest

          There are plenty of people out there who’ve come
          from abusive families (myself being one of them… with my mother being
          the abuser and my father the enabler). It might help if you
          tried to find one or more of those people and make friends with them – those of us who have been there/done that… can be supportive of one another. Not that it’s not always an uphill battle.

          I was very fortunate in my life that I met three women when I was young… who themselves had been abused by a parent. They became friends and supported me in ways my mother could not or would not …. and the fact that I was able to heal from that abuse I can attribute to those three women.

      • Guest

        He no longer visits this website. He is angry with Michael and everyone else. Hates the Navy especially.

    • DougDeGrave

      People with no morals often consider themselves more free, but mostly they lack the ability to feel hate… or love.

    • K2

      You did a good thing rescuing your siblings out of financial trouble. Wish a lot of other men and women were like that.

  • Priszilla

    What a bunch of whinging whinos here.

    If you don’t love the one you marry, then don’t get married.

    Don’t just marry for the looks or for political reasons or to bring countries together or to avoid war between families. (yeah, that was the glorious past before emancipation came along).

    • J.M.

      Another ignorant woman one of the most cuddled species on Earth. Next please!!!

  • Hammerstrike

    In other words, it is increasingly becoming a bad business decision.

    Future children ought to be in-vitros anywhay, like in the Space Above and Beyond tv serie, anyone remember that one?

    It is the only way to stop the degeneration of the human specie brought about by the end of natural selection, to you people who believes it should just work the natural way? Good luck running from that hungry lion!

  • Priszilla

    Try Engels: The Origin of the family, private property and the state.

    Or Desmond: The naked ape.

  • Mondobeyondo

    i have never been married. Not once, ever.

    Maybe – just maybe -
    I should consider that a blessing.

    Maybe.

    p.s. I would really want a wife someday .

  • DJohn1

    I just noticed the picture of a man, a woman, and three kids. You do realize that using outdated figures, that each of those children will cost approximately 42,000 dollars to raise? Not sure if that included college but I think not.
    That does not count the multiple sickness the family is likely to have over a 20 year period of time. Women do tend to get sick and stay that way.
    Men usually die about 5 years before their mates do. Even so they live longer than their single brothers.
    It also doesn’t include children having to come back home and start over again.

  • Bill Hammond

    Another reason for the decline in marriage is the reluctance of males to commit. They have seen what has happened to their fathers and are wary of the way men are treated in the family courts. If the mother decides she wants rid, then it is all too easy. One phone call to the police crying domestic abuse and it is all over for the father. Domestic violence has been made a priority crime and the police will arrive in minutes. It doesn’t have to be true. DV is poorly investigated in the courts which leads to false allegations being made. This is a winning strategy for any woman who wants to go it alone and they all know it. Sadly it is not a winning strategy for the children whose future life chances are severely reduced, financially, emotionally, and in every area imaginable. Of course there are many parents who are not up to the job, but that situation has been artificially created due to the deliberate dumbing down of western civilisation. This is nothing less than a huge social engineering project to take us into the new world order. The socialist intellectuals have always believed the job of parenting is too important to be left to parents. They want “experts” to raise children under the auspices of the godless state. After decades of dumbing down our children, the state has brought about a situation to further its own agenda. The future can be seen in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World. The problem is that most people believe this is just a sci-fi movie, when in fact it is the blueprint for the future. If parents don’t want this future to happen they had better stay married and protect their offspring from the sticky fingers of the state. In the end, they will come for everyone’s children.

  • Mondobeyondo

    “Do you, _____, take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife, to cheat and to abuse, to hold and to hug and to hurt, to have children you cannot care for, to be there for her in sickness when you make her sick, as long as you both shall live?”

    YOU DO???
    What is wrong with you?!

  • Mondobeyondo

    “Love and marriage, love and marriage
    They go together like a horse and buggy”

    Forget the dated relevance.
    We can’t even make it rhyme anymore!!!

    • xander cross

      Ah yes, Al Bundy.

  • Hammerstrike

    “100 years ago, 4.52 people were living in the average U.S. household, but now the average U.S. household only consists of 2.59 people.”

    Dude, in another article you asked why younger adults stay with their parents.

    I doubt there are going to be that many +65 years olds in 15 years, I rather think that in just 5 years, there will be less +65 years olds.

    How are they going to afford medications or even to eat with the way things are going? They would drop like flies when SHTF.

  • dienow

    You idealistic children really need to grow up and face reality. Marriage is an outdated, archaic system and meaningless ritual, designed for when human beings lived AN AVERAGE OF 35 YEARS!!! Happily ever after DOES NOT EXIST AT THIS STAGE OF HUMAN HISTORY. It’s all just a f^cking fairy tale, don’t you understand that? Two out of every three people COMMIT ADULTERY. YOUR CHANCES ARE NOT GOOD. Marriage is the modern-day equivalent of a dowry, only instead of the man paying for the bride to own her, the man now pays for EVERYTHING and he owns NOTHING, and must surrender all of his dignity and self-respect, even his free will, to the woman. This is how every single American marriage I have ever witnessed works. If the man thinks he has a mind of his own, he will be cheated on, left, or taken for everything he has.

    • xander cross

      Excellent comment sir.

    • quagmire

      yep $&% em all homie

  • Bubba Johnson

    Just went out with my wife of 34 Years to celebrate our anniversary. Life is good if you have your mind right.

  • xander cross

    Get rid of child support and alimony. That will solve almost 92% of the problems in this country.

    • Truth

      You can probably get rid of the other 8% by getting rid of affirmative action. Too many useless white women get cushy jobs where they don’t actually produce anything, crushing all profits and destroying the family unit that requires a male breadwinner.

      The mistake American men made is to listen to what women say they want. Women claim they want men that care about their feelings and all that other crap, but what they want are protectors that also keep them in line.

      Women never develop beyond a child like state. Even Angela Merkel resorts to tears when she doesn’t get what she wants. It is a stupid idea to ever put them in charge of men in anything.

    • DerpDerp

      So, you’re saying a guy can get a woman pregnant and leave her, and have no financial responsibility for the child?
      Wow, you sound like a responsible adult (no, not really).

  • GSOB

    This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach (I Tim. 3:1–2).

  • GSOB

    God publicly divorced national Israel at Pentecost.

    He then gave the nation additional time to repent corporately and enter into His new marriage covenant through baptism.

    When national Israel refused, He publicly executed her in A.D. 70.

    Jews survived; national Israel did not.

    Throughout the transition period, God retained His legal status as a monogamist.

    God has only one bride at a time.

  • Priszilla

    Let’s define marriage as a union between two unrelated adults who love and support each other.

    What’s wrong with that?

    And by supporting each other they do a great job of reducing the burden on society, therefore getting a tax break.

    (Waiting for all your hate-filled comments.)

    • endofUSAonitsway

      when everyone is married, no one is married.

      oh, and obviously you are a racist heterophobe, hahahahahaha

      • Priszilla

        Explain the “racist” label.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Starting to feel like one of those outcast survivors of the Clone Wars on a desert planet…surrounded by sand people and occupying my time with droids. Heh!

  • Mondobeyondo

    The family as a unit is being torn apart. It’s been that way for at least two generations now. The way to fix our current problems is to return to what made us great in the first place. What was that, you say? Umm, second problem: Education.

    We have the ability, we have the means, but we no longer have the will, and without the will to accomplish it, nothing will be done. JFK understood it. (One of the last leaders to get it.) . People going hungry in a nation that once put men on the moon. It’s beyond sad.

  • Mondobeyondo

    “The greatest thing you’ll ever learn
    Is to love, and be loved in return”

    “Nature Boy”, Nat King Cole

  • endofUSAonitsway

    all major corporations are hiring non americans at an alarming rate. game over boyz

  • K2

    If marriage was unnatural it would not have lasted so long. If monogamous was unnatural many people would not have been able to be monogamous. While some people are genetically predisposed to be polygamous, not all of them are. And those hunter gatherers evolved into civilised people who constituted various civilisations. Almost all civilisations were mono gamous (atleast most people in them were).

    Marriage might not suit some people due to various issues like money or disinterest in having kids, which i can understand. But it doesnt mean marriage has no function or is unnatural.

  • endofUSAonitsway

    comments from so many loser boys, bwahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa must be from men who are girly and ugly women

  • jj

    I am going to be a bit politically incorrect, but the author refuse to address the problem of men pussification by cooperate and social America. This process had been going on for a while now where women are now competing to be men, and men are assimilated to be more submissive. Until gender is balanced back to what it was intended to be by nature, creator, whatever you want to call it, the fabric of marriage will continue to be torn.
    Hell soon you will be able to marry your farm animal, I bet that ought to raise marriage stats…!

    • DerpDerp

      “Until gender is balanced back to what it was intended to be by nature, creator, whatever you want to call it, the fabric of marriage will continue to be torn.”

      What kind of Misogynistic tripe is this? A man needs to be macho and tough, and women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen?

      • endofUSAonitsway

        yes

  • K2

    Do you know why? I really am interested to know.

  • Anonymous

    If it is natural to have many sexual partners, why is there evidence of STDs among those with many sexual partners? No human being should be forced to stay somewhere they do not want to be. So, it is a good thing that a woman is no longer expected or required to stay in an abusive relationship, nor with a man that might bring an STD home because he can’t keep his pants zipped.

  • Anonymous

    So you believe that women from other countries are only marrying American men for love? Do you know anyone in the military, or any military veterans that you can discuss this topic with? Also, perhaps some American men are marrying outside of their own culture because what they really want is a servant and not a wife.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    I’m sure Prof. Tom Leykis would appreciate this one:

    Study: Nagging By A Spouse Could Shorten Your Life:

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/05/09/study-nagging-by-a-spouse-could-shorten-your-life/

  • Anonymous

    MGTOW

  • Truth

    I wonder how high the number of young people moving back in with their parents would be if said parents weren’t paying for their daughter’s apartment, or if the government didn’t pay for women’s housing if they have kids.

    I’d bet we’d get it closer to 50%, maybe even around 58%. You can’t have full employment, it’s impossible. When you give a man a job, and keep women out, you still wind up supporting women because they will pair up anyway. All you do by taking men out of work is removing families entirely, as women will only marry up, and you can’t have the middle of the pyramid go only for the top of the pyramid and have the bottom collapse right out.

  • Gay Veteran

    that shalt not lie.

    but keep on pushing the left/right BS

  • Gay Veteran

    oh noez! the Home & Garden Television cable channel rejected some bigots, the horrors!

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Glad to know you’re a fascist. Tell me more of your “we want equal rights” lies.

      • Gay Veteran

        man sauce guzzling moron? shouldn’t talk about your dad like that.

        funny comments coming from you after I spanked your a ss on the dixiecrats

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          You’re the one that confesses to smoking the man meat, so you can try and yammer about my momma, my papa and my greasy greasy granny, but in the end you’re the connoisseur de coc here.
          And nah, you have nothing on Dixiecrats or anything else outside of talking points.
          So carry on puny little fascist.

          • Gay Veteran

            yep, your nasty butt got spanked, otherwise you would be braying about how big a liar I am

  • Gay Veteran

    Pat Buchanan? was Rush busy? [doing drugs]

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Lemme play a little sad trombone because it’s too bad I don’t listen to Rush.
      But, If you wanna play that, I’ll take it from someone who was actually part of crafting the policy over you phaggot fascists citing you some Daily Kos any day.

      • Gay Veteran

        sorry junior, I don’t read garbage like Daily Kos.
        now before you pout, go ask mommy for some hot chocolate like a good little girl

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Nah, you just echo their idiotic talking points. That’s ok, deny if you want. I’ll be here to assure you just how sub-moronic you are.
          And once again, you’re still the girl in the conversation LMAO! Perhaps your coprophagia has blurred the lines for you just who pitches and who catches. catcher…

          • Gay Veteran

            “coprophagia”?

            awwwwww, troll using a new word.

            as for what I actually read or listen to: Zero Hedge, Paul Craig Roberts, Gerald Celente, Charles Hugh Smith, Karl Denninger, SHTF, The Burning Platform.

            yeah, a whole lot of liberals there, NOT (but then you don’t really care, because you loves you some strawman)

  • Gay Veteran

    hey Einstein, and yet there are soooooo many instances oh homosexuality in nature.

    • nekksys

      Show me ONE that resulted in offspring, then, Genius…

      • Gay Veteran

        learn to read: and yet there are soooooo many instances oh homosexuality in nature.
        that had nothing to do with reproduction

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  • veeder

    I am in the group of not wanting to get married because if money and no children for the same reason. One thing this doesn’t talk about is a Butcher in 1950 could own a house, send two kids to college and go on a vacation every year and that was in a single earner household. We can’t do that now. Our labor has been become cheap while the top earners continue to make more and more. It is sad.

    • Anonymous

      Very true. The DVD “Inequality For All” discusses the income inequality very well.

  • davidmpark

    Humanism’s okay; if that’s someone’s idea of a good time. But I really like the direction I’m going.

  • Circa53

    A lot of men have been stung in divorce courts and are very gun shy..Then again the inner city types by the millions get rewarded by the Govt. to not marry.

  • Randy Townsend

    Marriage has been failing for decades. Look at the divorce rate for 1st marriages – almost 60%. 2nd marriages? Over 70% and 3rds? Don’t bother. It isn’t marriage that’s the problem, it’s the people that get married with one foot out the door – “When it gets difficult, I’m out.” And they are. Kids are the biggest losers, ’cause they think this is normal….

  • phaggy butterbutt

    females are pretty much unnecessary, useless garbage anymore. P.S. a womyn that spreads like butter, is a sl ut, wh ore, etc. Dispised and disdained wherever she/it goes. As she/it should be. Worry not, big daddy sugar co ck, aka the gubermint will support you useless things. I will not. P.P.S. I offer genuine equality. When one of you man wanna bees spouts off to me, I rebuke it with a broken face.

  • phaggy butterbutt

    Why would or should any young man care what you ‘think’ or want ? The female is nothing but a useless, parasitic feeder. Within 5 years you will know the price of treasonous womyn.

  • phaggy butterbutt

    Good call. The entitlement princesses are the worst. Goad them into a fight then beat the stuffing out of them. It’s fun and satisfying.

  • J.M.

    Another idiot posting. Why don´t you read previous comments and see why marriage rates are going down everywhere.

  • Lenny Brooklyn

    Stay Single. There is no reason why any man should ever marry in today’s world. “Family” court is controlled by women and the laws are written to destroy men.
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  • Ota Benga

    Reproduction is essential and necessary. Marriage is not. We will adapt.

  • K2

    You are a male? All this time i have been thinking you are a woman.

    Not that it matters, i am just saying….

    • Priszilla

      Yes, somebody hijacked my other name. So I just thought of Priszilla in the Desert.

      Just in case you know the movie …

  • Albert8184

    And the irony of the situation is that family bonds are EXACTLY the foundational bedrock needed to weather a financial crisis or economic hardtimes.

    There’s a reason that progressive Leftists are so unfriendly toward the family unit. They like every individual to belong exclusively to the state.

  • LF

    I am unmarried, will stay unmarried. I have worked to hard to get to my level of success to risk it all in the blight called our family court system. If we handled things fairly, e.g. proportional split of assets (you make 40%, you get 40% unless stay at home), support of what it actually takes to raise a child instead of based on lifestyle (like Scandinavian countries), etc. I would consider it. But, in today’s climate, it is a bad business decision and frankly, our culture has too many women with way too much entitlement to make them even bearable after about a couple of years of dating. So, I stick to what I call yearly relationships. Cheaper and I jump ship as soon as the true colors start showing and move on to the next one.

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