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The Middle Class In Canada Is Now Doing Better Than The Middle Class In America

Canada - Photo by SsolbergjFor most of Canada’s existence, it has been regarded as the weak neighbor to the north by most Americans.  Well, that has changed dramatically over the past decade or so.  Back in the year 2000, middle class Canadians were earning much less than middle class Americans, but since then there has been a dramatic shift.  At this point, middle class Canadians are actually earning more than middle class Americans are.  The Canadian economy has been booming thanks to a rapidly growing oil industry, and meanwhile the U.S. middle class has been steadily shrinking.  If current trends continue, a whole bunch of other countries are going to start passing us too.  The era of the “great U.S. middle class” is rapidly coming to a bitter end.

In recent years, I have been up to Canada frequently, and I am always amazed at how much nicer things are up there.  The stores and streets are cleaner, the people are more polite and it seems like almost everyone that wants to work has a job.

But despite knowing all this, I was still surprised when the New York Times reported this week that middle class incomes in Canada have now surpassed middle class incomes in the United States…

After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada — substantially behind in 2000 — now appear to be higher than in the United States. The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

And things are particularly dire for those in the U.S. on the low end of the scale…

The struggles of the poor in the United States are even starker than those of the middle class. A family at the 20th percentile of the income distribution in this country makes significantly less money than a similar family in Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland or the Netherlands. Thirty-five years ago, the reverse was true.

Even while our politicians and the media continue to proclaim that everything is “just fine”, the U.S. middle class continues to slide toward oblivion.

The biggest reason for this is the lack of middle class jobs.  Millions of good jobs have been shipped overseas, and millions of other good jobs have been replaced by technology.

The value of our labor is declining with each passing day, and this has forced millions upon millions of very qualified Americans to take whatever they can get.  As NBC News recently noted, this is a big reason why the temp industry has been booming…

For Americans who can’t find jobs, the booming demand for temp workers has been a path out of unemployment, but now many fear it’s a dead-end route.

With full-time work hard to find, these workers have built temping into a de facto career, minus vacation, sick days or insurance. The assignments might be temporary — a few months here, a year there — but labor economists warn that companies’ growing hunger for a workforce they can switch on and off could do permanent damage to these workers’ career trajectories and retirement plans.

“It seems to be the new norm in the working world,” said Kelly Sibla, 54. The computer systems engineer has been looking for a full-time job for four years now, but the Amherst, Ohio, resident said she has to take whatever she can find.

It has been estimated that one out of every ten jobs is now filled by a temp agency.  I have worked for temp agencies myself in the past.  Big companies like the idea of having “disposable workers”, and this is a trend that is likely to only grow in the years ahead.

But temp jobs and part-time jobs don’t pay as well as normal jobs.  And those kinds of jobs generally cannot support middle class families.

At this point, nine out of the top ten occupations in the United States pay an average wage of less than $35,000 a year.

That is absolutely stunning.

These days most families are barely scraping by, and they don’t have much extra money to go shopping with.

This is a big reason for the “retail apocalypse” that we are now witnessing.  This week we learned that retail stores in the United States are closing at the fastest pace that we have seen since the collapse of Lehman Brothers.  But you won’t hear much about that on the mainstream news.

You can find lots of “space available” signs and empty buildings in formerly middle class neighborhoods all over the country.  For example, one of my readers recently shot the following YouTube video in Scottsdale, Arizona.  As you can see, empty commercial buildings are all over the place…

As the middle class shrinks, more families are being forced to take in family members that can’t find decent work.  I have written previously about the huge rise in the number of young adults that are moving back in with their parents.  But this is not just happening to young people.  As the Los Angeles Times recently detailed, the number of Americans 50 and older that are moving in with their parents has absolutely soared in recent years…

For seven years through 2012, the number of Californians aged 50 to 64 who live in their parents’ homes swelled 67.6% to about 194,000, according to the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research and the Insight Center for Community Economic Development.

The jump is almost exclusively the result of financial hardship caused by the recession rather than for other reasons, such as the need to care for aging parents, said Steven P. Wallace, a UCLA professor of public health who crunched the data.

“The numbers are pretty amazing,” Wallace said. “It’s an age group that you normally think of as pretty financially stable. They’re mid-career. They may be thinking ahead toward retirement. They’ve got a nest egg going. And then all of a sudden you see this huge push back into their parents’ homes.”

The U.S. economy is slowly but steadily falling apart, and more people fall out of the middle class every single day.

A recent Gallup survey found that 14 percent of all Americans would experience “significant financial hardship” within one week of a job loss.

An additional 29 percent of all Americans would experience “significant financial hardship” within one month of a job loss.

That means that 43 percent of the entire country is living right on the edge.

It is no wonder why only about 30 percent of all Americans believe that we are moving in the right direction as a nation.

Most people know deep down that something is seriously wrong.  But most people can’t explain exactly what that is or how to fix it.

Meanwhile, the politicians and the media keep telling us that if we just keep doing the same old things that everything will work out okay somehow.  The blind are leading the blind, and we are rapidly marching toward disaster.

  • Overman18

    Its sad to see..

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  • Killer Virus

    There are things about Canada that make this possible. First off they don’t play when it comes to illegal immigration. They don’t have much either due to location. They don’t spend huge chunks of their budget on wars. They tend to be happier people. While people say the major of Toronto is a junkie, at least he does what is best for his city. Our politicians screw us at every turn even when they are sober. The big difference is Canada does what is best for Canadians and the U.S. does what is best for the rest of the world which usually involves weakening us.

    • Twidiot1

      They have a pretty stupid immigration policy too.

      • Killer Virus

        Do you mean legal or illegal immigration policy?

        • Guest

          I recently tried to enter Canada from the US. They pulled up a misdemeanor FROM 28 YEARS AGO!
          I was very rudely and abruptly thrown out after a two hour interrogation and a violent pat down from one of their goons.
          I was just trying to make a delivery. I had a passport.
          Ya, they are A holes.

          • tacoma

            US border has always treated Canadians this way – any foul with Canadian law automatically deny entry into the US. The US border madness went into paranoia after 9/11 and Canada had enough. So the governments negotiated an agreement where they will share criminal records online. And therefore today Canada does to Americans what the US has done to Canadians. You know, Canada would never start something like this. Blame the US Congress passing draconian border laws after 9/11.

          • bagoverheadguy

            Congrats to Canada’s border guards…sounds like you’re not the type Canada needs or tolerates…

          • Guest

            You’re right. Who has a background that can match the gold standard your representative Justin Bieber has.

          • Mm Eeee

            justin was an innocent angel til corrupted by your evil culture!! (joking)

          • Anonymous

            Thank you CDN border guards for taking one small step to keep Canadians safe! And hopefully that comment wasn’t written with the goal of having anyone think “boy, those Canadians border guards are so mean!” Epic failure if so!!

          • Guest

            Not mean, just stupid. A terrorist isn’t going to come thru the front door.

            As long as the Canadian sheeple “feel” safer right?

        • Jakob Stagg

          You will never convince a liberal with fact or logic. They can’t stand having their biases disrupted by truth.

        • DB

          Why the heck WOULD’NT they want to kick out the felons, drunk drivers, and illegal workers?! That was one duuuummmb comment, K V.

          • Killer Virus

            That wasn’t a bash it was a affirmation that Canadians enforce heir border laws. Learn to read nitwit.

          • DB

            You sounded offended when you said “they don’t politely ask you to leave, they make you leave. Even if you are married to one”. Apparently I misinterpreted that. Either way the name calling was unnecessary and I apologize.

          • Killer Virus

            Thank you, I apologize for the misunderstanding as well.

      • From Toronto

        Yup and most of the 300,000 arrivals live in Toronto, and when they can’t find jobs, the Ontario Liberals blame Rob Ford!

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    • From Toronto

      Canada looks like a socialist country, but it’s leaning more towards far-left big government control.

      • random guy

        Are you crazy!Canada is not a socialist country.I`m pretty sure you either hate Canada or live in the worst parts of Toronto.

        • K2

          It has free or is it govt sponsored healthcare/education…. doesnt it?

          And thats socialsim according to some people. If that is not socialism, then canada is not socialist.

          • Priszilla

            According to some people, even the US is socialist.

          • K2

            Yeah.

          • Priszilla

            Well, in socialism everybody has a job.

            Education is free for everyone. As is healthcare, and everybody gets a pension.

            There is no homelessness either.

            Clinton, Bush and Reagan may live in socialism, but who else?

          • K2

            Just because i said yes once, dont assume i will say yes to everything. If that is the reason behind your post to me.

            As for your statement, saying that in socialism everybody will have a job? Nope its not true.

            No system…socialism or capitalism can guarantee a job to everybody.

          • Priszilla

            Well, in socialism we were assigned a job. You could choose not to work, but then you’d have no income as there was no welfare system, except you were severely disabled or sick.

            And well, those who didn’t work were seen as anti-social.

            And when you worked, you got a home assigned, within walking distance to your job. Or cycling distance.

            The disadvantage was, since the socialist countries were under embargo, we didn’t have dollars, and therefore couldn’t travel to dollar countries.

          • K2

            Which country are you talking about?

          • bagoverheadguy

            Cdns in most provinces pay health care premiums, and our personal tax rates are slightly higher to help offset health care…it isn’t free!!

          • K2

            That was a question.

      • BenguluruHuduga

        Socialist ? Look what the canadian govt is doing to Blackberry. No Bailouts. seems more capitalistic than US.

      • Mondobeyondo

        A lot of Americans think the Canadian healthcare system, in particular, has some socialistic aspects to it. And now we here in the States have adopted this idea and put our own spin on it, calling it “Obamacare”. Thanks, guys!

        • Tex May

          Canadians wouldn’t trade you for the American health care system before Obamacare. And Canadian health care is not free either.

          The true cost is nearly $13,000 per person per year. The difference is that in Canada the cost is covered by the government’s general revenue (taxes) and pretty well everyone has coverage.

          Canadians do not ever worry about pre-existing conditions and people don’t go bankrupt because of illness or accident.

          • bagoverheadguy

            Here in B.C. we pay health care premiums…but if your income is quite low, you either pay no premiums or small ones…

          • Priszilla

            In Hong Kong every citizen is covered by the tax-financed public healthcare. In addition you can buy private health insurance as much as you like.

      • bagoverheadguy

        You wouldn’t know a socialist if you fell on one, after your comment…seriously bro, get a grip..

      • Liarbuster 1337

        You hate Canada! You said LOOKS,not is!

        You psychopath!Be Quiet!

    • VegasBob

      I would argue that the US generally does what is best for huge multinational corporations, which is almost always detrimental to the country as a whole.

      • Jakob Stagg

        And war material suppliers and support services.

    • Watchingtheweasels

      You’re right in saying that Canada does what is best for Canadians. The US, however, does what is best for the authoritarian-progressive politicians in the ruling class and the welfare-americans and government-americans that vote for them.

  • hopenchange

    they might have us beat with their growing middle class, but america crushes em when it comes to folks on welfare.there more folks on welfare than the entire population of canada and it’s growin exponentianlly, so there

    • From Toronto

      I don’t know y the hate on the USA but at least you folks have the First Amendment but I do agree leftist policies harm any country’s economic health and social health….it’s just because Alberta has oil that the statistics are skewed. Try living in Ontario where freedom of speech is restricted, wages are low and taxes are high.

  • Twidiot1

    I wish global warming were real. Then I could move to Canada when it changes to a subtropical climate!

    • From Toronto

      I hope you believe in political correctness, radical liberalism and Marxism. You might need it in megopolis province of Ontario.

      • Killer Virus

        Sounds like half the cities in the U.S.

        • From Toronto

          Atleast USA has the first amendment, in any leftist Canadian city, if anyone’s feelings get hurt by someone, that someone loses all their rights and ends up blacklisted on the job market.
          Where did radical femmsm grew from? A leftist Canadian city.

          • Killer Virus

            Wow, forget that. I would rather be poor than lose my freedom of speech. We can lose our jobs too. It use to not be that way.

          • From Toronto

            Did this comment change? I didn’t know the Orwellian thoughtpolice are prownling on these forums.

          • Killer Virus

            Yes and I don’t know why it got moderated. Maybe Michael has his disqus filter set on ultra PC.

          • From Toronto

            Well, I don’t blame him. Because his blog can be shut down by the Ontario thoughtpolice if anyone makes a critical remark of the leftist policies, or even recommending libertarian views.

          • Killer Virus

            LOL The Canadians have no jurisdiction over this site. The Canadian government could block you from accessing it if you still live there. Then you just get a VPN and go around it.

          • From Toronto

            Well maybe they do, if it involves any criticism of Canada leftist polices. The big government class can do anything to change the law to suit their favour.

            You Americans have a little freedom of speech, try counting how many libertarian activist blogs are in Canada. The amount of bloggers who were prosecuted can probably outnumber the libertarians and non-leftist viewpoints!

          • Killer Virus

            The truth is if it ever got that bad here, bullets would probably start flying. We cling on to the 2nd amendment so we can keep the 1st.

          • From Toronto

            Martial law is a global construct made to consildate soverign countries into Noth American Unions, African Union, British Union.

            The future is scary because the state has too much power over citizens. Canada banned personal rifles, but thugs still use weapons on the street!

          • Killer Virus

            That will never happen here. The north may fold, but once you pass the Mason Dixon line these crazy rednecks will make Afghanistan look like a party.

          • From Toronto

            Southern rednecks? Those guys mean business more than Clint Eastwood get off my lawn.

            I’m logging out. I’ll spread the word about this blog with friends. The author has many useful information.

          • Sonofgary

            Huh??? Since when did Canada ban “personal rifles”? I must have missed something.

          • DB

            There was never a ban, although there was a federal gun registry which has since been scrapped. Hunting rifles ok, hand guns not ok. Suits me fine.

          • From Toronto

            I’ll have to log out, great sharing viewpoints, One tip, don’t let leftist policies engulf freedom of speech in USA. You guys have a little freedom, stand up against them, unfortunately many Canadians are leftists who get rewarded for their behavior, critics of leftism such as Mayor Rob Ford become victims of leftist mob mentality. Even a male slacker named Roosh was trolled by Toronto femmsts because he criticized leftism on his dating blog.

          • xander cross

            I seriously doubt that. It’s that he shuts down anything that disagrees with him and you can’t ever truly say who is behind all of this.

          • xander cross

            Oh yes, it happens all the time here. Can’t say anything that goes against the republican/alex jones agenda.

  • Tatiana Covington

    Headlines from The Globe and Mail of August 18, 2056:

    CANADA, UNITED STATES MERGE!
    Parliament Expands for 51 New Provinces
    King Henry IX Says: “Welcome Back!”

    • From Toronto

      The federal gubermint is already merging the North American union, slowly but surely. Meanwhile, the population is distratced with that fem-walk movement and which male is oppressing which female at McDonalds.

  • Bruce

    You wrote “Most people know deep down that something is seriously wrong. But most people can’t explain exactly what that is or how to fix it.”. First and foremost greed is the culprit. Greed is what causes all these businesses to go overseas and out of the U.S.. We will NEVER, EVER be able to compete with people who will work for pennies on the dollar. That reality brings us to the second cause and that is politicians. None of this would have been possible if politicians looked after the citizenry versus their buddies who give them behind the scenes sweetheart deaks and kick backs.
    Initially one would think that just buy American made products only. But, those companies overseas would just cut the prices until they squeezed the American company out. So, that is not a viable answer.
    The ONLY way we can get things back on track is to close our borders to ALL products and become isolationist, at least for some time. The only other option is to place significant tarrifs on all goods coming into our country.
    Thirdly we have to recongnize and isolate the politicians who voted such legislation into existence and remove them from Washington!

    • Guest

      If we start a trade war mutual nuclear inhalation would be inevitable. Not that I have a better solution….

      • Drud

        “Nuclear inhalation” is bad, “nuclear annihilation” is even worse.

  • LazyIke

    You are not discussing the decline of the US population since 1965 with the increase in illegitimate children predominately in the African American community and the large influx of illegals from Mexico, all of which have very low education achievement levels and have accounted for most of the growth of the population.

    • From Toronto

      You’re lucky you’re living with freedom of speech in the USA to say that because if you were to post a comment like that on a Canadian forum, the leftist Canadians will shun you and make you lose your job or be blacklisted from job opportunities.

      • Tom Paine

        we get your point, but you are over doing it a tad. If Canada is so bad, you can come down to the USSA and end up in a FEMA camp soon

      • jibril

        If that`s true,i would be under arrest for seeing this

        • kfilly

          Not yet, but it will happen soon.

      • bagoverheadguy

        Wrong, wrong and wrong…and I’m no leftie…your left or right leaning comment might not be included in a forum for a number of reasons…that also takes place in the U.S. or other democratic nations….

    • xander cross

      You mean all of the illegitimate children that are predominately in the White community and the influx of illegals from Russia and Eastern Europe, all of which get free tax breaks and have very low education achievement levels. Someone needs to ask why white women are considered a minority and get all kinds of free government benefits like food stamps.

  • From Toronto

    Alberta, Saskatchewan, Winnipeg have growing economies. Ontario has high unemployment and many youth are out of work.

    And if it wasn’t for Mayor Rob Ford, the city of Toronto would be in a deficit and poverty rates would skyrocket due to high taxes and cost of living because of corruption.

    If you plan to move to Canada, move to the West provinces. You’ll thank me later because the Tourism PR push false advertising about Ontario being a good place to live, but we have a left-liberal government who subidizes 40.000$ for a gender-change surgery but will deny coverage for pills for cancer patients. Ontario has a sickening leftwing culture. Toronto is a big city with high poverty, and a lot of people who are wealthy are stuck-up and outbid all the houses to get richer and cause another housing bubble in Ontario.

    • Mm Eeee

      Well, commodities usually go up for 10 years (ie 2001-2011) and then down for twenty, 2012-2032? Maybe stay away from west! Commodity bear market of 1981-2001 bottomed out with oil at 10 bucks a barrel if I recall.

  • From Toronto

    The data analysis is too broad because Canada has a huge landmass with hundreds of cities and 10 territories. The data probably came from Alberta so that the federal gubermint can bring in millions of more newcomers, so they end up in leftist Ontario so most can be indoctrinated to become socialists and minimum wage workers.

    If the data came from middle class public sector workers, or Alberta middle class or small towns, the data will be more towards higher incomes than someone collecting data from Ontario cities like Toronto and Windsor.

    I lived in Toronto for about 17 years, and manufacturing in Ontario is almost gone, and getting a good job to pay for the expensive cost of living here is hard. I barely save $100 at the end of every month because rent is so high because of the demand for housing and the housing bubble.

    Mayor Rob Ford is a Conservative spender, and that is why the city is doing a little better than if it were run by a leftist Mayor who tax, tax, tax and spend, spend, spend and then hide the spending wastage at the end of the day.

    The economic status in Canada is relative by province. The same can be considered in USA where Detroit is poor while Brentwood of Beverly Hills are wealthy.

  • From Toronto

    Where did the data come from? Data about the middle class in Toronto or Windsor, Ontario will be no different than the current recession in most parts of the USA.

    Youth unemployment in the capital of Ontario, Toronto, is at least 25%. That speaks numbers. No future for the youth if lefitist polices outgrow conservativism in Ontario.

  • http://waltersthinking.blogspot.com/ Walter Ruggieri

    The middle class is being squeezed. From higher prices and higher taxes, to higher rents and higher fees. Add to this that wages have been stagnant for a decade, you can see why American’s are not the most affluent in the world any more. Who is to blame? Everyone! From those who did stupid things to those who let them. We are all to blame.

  • Harquebus

    Peak oil mates, peak oil. This is only the beginning.

  • tacoma

    It is true the the overall economic shape of Canada is superior than USA. In particular, the middle class is much larger and healthier. 75% of middle class have full equity (no mortgage) of their homes, a source of great wealth. But Canadian wealthy class is much smaller and nowhere near the obscene wealth of the US billionaires. The poor class of Canada is quite small because there is always lots of low-end jobs and government support is more generous.

    Canada private economy is capitalist but is soundly regulated by public policies. Canadians believe in the ‘ying-yang’ of private-public balance. In contrast, such policies would be look upon as ‘socialist’ by America. Canadian believe in the notion of public good and trust more on government to deliver it. A result of such trust is there is hardly any corruption, and even the slightest misdeeds get the 2×4 treatment. America largely rejects the value of public good and severely distrust the government. Rampant and severe corruption in the public sector, including laws that encourage vast corruption money in politics, is treated as ‘normal’ in the US. These are some of the fundamental difference between America and Canada.

    One major consequence of Canadian value system is that the country did not participate in the great American housing, debt and banking bubbles of the 2000’s. (It also refused to join in the invasion of Iraq despite heavy pressure.) Daily reporting of ‘splendid good time’ in the US during this unfettered decade did not temp Canadians to join, when even many western Europeans and Asia Pacific countries did join US in the madness.

    And so the Canadian economy rolls ahead of the US, so that the traditional 1:10 measure of Canada-US GDP has become 1:8. But when you factor in the vast US federal debt of $17 trillion (Canada Debt/GDP=38%, budget deficit=0%; US numbers are 100%, 10%), and adjust US to match Canada levels, then the relative size of GDP become 1:6. I.e. Canada has moved from being 1/10th the economic size of US to being 1/6th, a most dramatic growth since 1990.

    • Louis

      As far as I know 85% of Canadian exports go to the United States. What happens if this export stops because the demand is gone?

      • tacoma

        Around WW2, Canada exports to US was about 25%, rose to a high of 75% between 1980-2000. Half of this exports were in auto and natural resources. Since the 2008 crisis, Canada realized that it must diversify and it did. Today exports to the US had dropped to about 55%, projected to less than 50% soon. But total exports remain the same – just that Canada indeed managed to export more to the world. A big reason for this export diversification is Canada has signed a dozen trade treaties since the signing of NAFTA, the latest being with S, Korea a month ago. Canada has signed a massive trade/labor agreement with the EU which is expected to be rectified into treaty this year. It is also negotiating a trade deal with Japan. The goal is to export more to the world than to the US.

  • K

    The answer to why this is happening is simple. The powers that be, are not doing everything they can to destroy Canada. Only when enough wake up, and realise, what is happening is not a mistake. It is not caused by stupid people. It is a plan that has been in the works a long time. The American middle class, was the only thing powerful enough to get in the Global elites way. Thus it must be destroyed. You saw it roar when it stopped the U.S. from going into Syria. You also saw it mildly object at the Bundy ranch. The American middle class does not stand up often. But because of the fear it might stand up at all, is why it will be destroyed.

    • xander cross

      You’re a fool if you think that a bunch of “pro gun” groups represent the middle class over Bundy’s illegal ranch. It’s not his property, it never was and another thing, since most of you white people don’t think the federal government exists, then stop receiving free tax breaks from them and also, stop buying illegal land from them as well.

      • K

        His family was on that land before the state of Nevada existed. He made improvements on that land over the years. The only mistake he made, is ever paying the BLM a penny. Generations were on that land before there was a BLM. As far as I am concerned his grazing rights should have been Grandfathered in. How much do you know about open range law? Only since the formation of the BLM, has any fee been charged for said grazing. I think he has a great case for adverse possession. Also I think the folks that showed up, represent the middle class far better than you think..

        • xander cross

          That is not true at all and yes, I did do the research on the whole story and his family was not on that land. Also, those folks do not represent the middle class just because they have guns. This is the problem that I have with most of you, you think that you can kill anyone that dares disagree with you so called gun laws. But then again, the NRA was behind gun banning a long time ago.

          • old fart

            THE ONES WHO I SEEN ALL HAS AUTOMATIC WHEAPONS AND DOGS ALONG WITH UNIFORMS.

      • Guest

        So what do you ‘black people’ believe?

        • xander cross

          Justice. White people should get the same charges that black people get for drug possessions. White men are not charged for creating crystal meth labs in Kentucky (Charlie Sheen comes to mind). Michael just did an article on this very subject and of course, your beloved Senator Rand Paul was not available for comment since he collects payment from the very bankers that you all speak against.

  • Lorna Faith

    This is the will of the American people. They made the decision on election days

    • kfilly

      If you believe our elections are not rigged, you are pretty naive. Stalin said it best when he said something along the lines of, “It does matter who votes, but who counts the votes”.

      • Lorna Faith

        They would not be in a situation to be rigged had the voters not elected people that do rig elections. The inevitable blame lies upon the voters and those that do not vote

        • kfilly

          I suppose you saw the Congressional hearing on electronic voting machines being rigged. 51-49 is the perfect result to rig an election according to the expert’s testimony. What were the final results again? You can find that video on YouTube.

      • Drud

        The elections do not need to be rigged. JP Morgan originally figured this out a century ago (although the concept is surely as old as Democracy itself): don’t try to rig an election to make sure your guy wins, make sure there are only 2 candidates and buy both of them.The real danger, the real reason the people ALWAYS lose is that we buy the 2-party scam. We point out the horrible flaws in the other party, and make the logical fallacy to assume that that makes “our” party good. Take the most radical leftist and have him rant about the Republicans, then take the most radical conservative and have him rant about the Democrats. Then combine the two rants and apply them to BOTH parties and you will arrive somewhere near the truth.

    • GaryA

      Elections are not rigged but the “two party” system is. The difference between dems and repubs is like the difference between vanilla and strawberry ice creams – they taste a bit different but give you the same heart attack. Obama and Romney raised 1.2 billion $$$ each in the last elections. “He who pays for music orders the tune”. I always laugh at people screaming “we elected them, they serve US!”. Hahaha – and how much much did you pay? You get what you pay for.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    For openers, let us inform our Congress that their jobs are “temporary” in November.

  • Jim Clark

    Did Jayson Blair write this article for the New York Times?

  • Frank Bell

    Michael,

    if what you are saying is true – and I don’t say it isn’t true – why are so many Americans calm and passive?

    Why have the people inside the Occupy movement agreed to be taken over by the Lucis Trust and George Soros, both being cheerleaders for the NWO?

    Where are the protests?

    Where is the uprising against corrupt police and politicians?

    Why is Milea Cirus and her dress more important than TTIP?

    I don’t get it.

    • Bill

      Watch my link when Michael approves it.

      • Frank Bell

        @ Bill

        I will, but I don’t see a link yet.

        • Bill

          Michael hasn’t gotten out of bed yet to clear me. Try the info I left above.

    • grumpyhillbilly

      Here are few reasons no one cares – heroin, prescription pain killers, marijuana, meth, and now powder booze.

  • my thoughts

    …ps, keep Justin Beiber, you’re doing us a favor! :)

  • jakartaman

    No No Michael, You just don’t understand.
    I watch the MSM and they have consistently stated that Mr. Obama’s policies are working and the economy is slowly improving. Also how can 51% of the people be wrong —Twice?

  • K2

    Canada also has far more resources than population.

  • Bill

    Some of you may want to search for Karen Bisso’s youtube response to the NY safe act. My comment with a direct link may never get moderated. Karen is a fireball not like the typical politician who can’t explain what is wrong or what to do about it.

    • Bill

      In reference to Michael’s last two paragraphs, Karen’s guidance will allow America and the blind to avoid disaster.

      • K2

        Have you been paid to do this?

        • Bill

          By Michael?

          • K2

            You tell me.

  • mfenix911

    Studies show that 30% of americans are retarded.

  • underaged

    Yes, and studies show that the middle class in Haiti is doing better than the middle class in Canada. But unfortunately, in Haiti there are only 3 people that qualify for any class above poverty.

    My point – statistics can be manipulated any way you find the need.

  • DJohn1

    I know this is a small point. But American applies to everyone on the American land mass. Canada is a country. The United States is a country. We are all Americans. Even Mexicans are considered Americans.
    Canada is socialist. They have social medicine and they have a hard time paying for it. Typically over the last 50 years, Canada’s currency has devalued much faster than ours. In the 70s, Canada’s currency got so bad that it was exchanging for .61 per U.S. Dollar.
    Canada is protected by a political force that can get fired at almost any time. They are much more interested in pleasing their people than the United States government is.
    Canada is divided between the French Canadians and the English Canadians. Language is a fight. Many French Canadians refuse to learn English or speak it. They want their own French Nation and have failed to get the votes to do so more than once. Insurrection is a real possibility with the nation being split in two.
    There are many reasons why our currency is devaluing now. Too many reasons to list here. In a sentence, it is incompetent government making multiple mistakes that cost us all a lot of money.
    There are vast amounts of oil in Canada waiting to be exploited. That oil is what is producing a complete turn around of the economy. Even the labor unions are in on the act. Labor Unions are big politically in both England and Canada.
    This is all offset by a people stretched way too thin over the entire area of Canada. So they are encouraging people to have lots of children with multiple tax breaks for getting married and having children.
    I do not care for social medicine. It produces a population of medical people less motivated to save you than one in which there is a profit to do so.
    We are no better. We are into multiple profits at the expense of the common people. If it means making a profit nothing gets cured. People become cash cows under our system of medicine. In the Social Medicine, it is less obvious. It is there. Also a disturbing trend is there to allow people to die rather than cure them from illnesses that are expensive to cure.
    The other problem is the long cold winters. Someone has to pay those utility bills. Canada sits on a frozen icy land. It is not a nice place to live in many cases.
    Thin populations means vulnerability. At some point in time when we are too weak to help them, Foreign invaders may actually come down from the north and take the land. Two possible invaders are Russia and China. Both of which do not appear to have any problem with taking over the weak.

    • rogerinflorida

      Djohn1:
      I lived in Canada (Vancouver & Toronto) for 13 years and have been back since. I believe there is a very real but very secret policy of China to colonize Canada by the simple means of encouraging mass Chinese emigration to Canada. China has 1.5Bn people, Canada 33Mn, it is quite a simple task to transplant a tiny minority of Chinese to Canada and for that minority to achieve political ascendance. Am I crazy?

      • Tex May

        Well you did ask. Yeah, you’re crazy!

      • DJohn1

        I think China has a desperate need to constantly find a way to feed an enormous population of people. Canada is one of many nations I think have a target on their backs.
        Anyone that feeds China leads China. Those that fail to do so eventually are killed off. So no, I don’t think your idea that China wants to peacefully solve the population problem for you is insane at all. The cultural problem with China is there is an over abundance of men to women ratio due to the population control. Women babies are often killed at birth. So now you have a ratio of possibly 40-30% female to 60-70% male. China has to get rid of a lot of males if these figures are correct.

    • Chris

      I have worked in the US healthcare for 13 years, and Canada part time for the past 6. If you hate socialized medicine I’d dare you to try the US system and see how much you enjoy that! If you haven’t used it than you are basing your comment on the Canadian system only? Trust me, after 10+ years of working in it, and Canada too, I’m giving it up as I’m sick if seeing people go broke, get turned away, refused care, and denied access. Look at the numbers, they speak for themselves. And if you think their system is so wonderful, try it!!

      • DJohn1

        The U.S. system of health care is broken. Under the current system no one wins. If you get seriously ill, you will more than likely end up bankrupt.
        Doctors do not win either under this system, because people cannot afford to pay them.

        Why has no one world wide found a cure for cancer?
        Same for type II diabetes. Or type I. Or heart disease . . .

        I maintain it is because the American Health Care system doesn’t want it cured. Neither here or in Canada.
        We are a nation of cash cows for the industry. To a lesser extent, even under social medicine that is true.
        If a cure is ever found it will come out of a communist country.
        Doctors in Florida kept my Father allive for 10 years. He had a blood disease cancer that left him a bleeder. He should have died much earlier than he did.
        It was only when they moved back to England that he died. They were amazed at the time that he lived as long as he did. Under social medicine he died.
        There are good and bad doctors under any system of medicine. I think motivation is a factor in how good you are treated here or in Canada. Have they solved the problem of getting an appointment in Canada?

    • Tex May

      Are you illiterate? Or an idiot?

      The Canadian dollar has recently been above par with the greenback, but Canada finds it economically advantageous to have a lower valued dollar. People spend more of their money at home and the US buys more Canadian products because it is “cheaper” to do so.

      Virtually all Quebecois speak English as good or better than you and their pro separatist governing party recently lost an election (badly) because the people did not want to even discuss having their own country.

      As far as labor unions running things, non public sector unions have been in decline for decades in Canada. Even the militant public sector unions (except teachers) have learned to keep a lower profile.

      Health care- not many Canadians would willingly change places with the average American.

      As for the cold winters- the majority of the Canadian populace lives within 50 miles of the Canadian – American border. Is Washington State or New York a frozen wasteland too? And for the dog days of winter that they do suffer from- well Real Estate values in Arizona and Florida are only as good as they are because of the flocking Canadian “snowbirds”.

      And finally- it good to remember that when those invading hordes do get there they are only 50 miles or less from the good old USA.

      • DJohn1

        I guess we should forget about Montreal. Understand they have a good sized population and they are not 50 miles from the border.

        The American Medical Association is not well. And bankruptcy is common after illness here.

        The reason the Canadian Dollar is doing better is the United States Dollar is devaluing. I do not spend 13,000 dollars a year on social medicine.

        However the nursing home business in this country is spending a whole lot more per individual than 13,000. I suggest the numbers are more like 4-6,000 per month and most of that is paid by medicaid after a person is broke financially here. Doesn’t take long to go through a lifetime’s worth of savings.

        I maintain that Unions in the United States when broke about 20 years ago. That is part of the problem. The middle class went broke with it. With no negotiation for wages, inflation has eaten people here alive along with the export of jobs to nations that are broken financially.
        China is an exception all of its own.
        It is a time bomb waiting to go off.
        It will either happen with a war or it will happen peaceably. China needs women. Their policies have raised a large decrease in women living to adulthood.

        • Tex May

          You sound like an American who does not know much about Canada. You should read more.

          I said that most of the Canadian population lives within 50 miles of the US border- I did not say that those who live in Montreal did. Do a population count of Toronto and the rest of the GTA, Vancouver etc. and Montreal is not that far away.

          Dollar wide, the Canadian dollar is now trading at around .90 cents US. A few months ago it was at par or slightly higher. The change is due to manipulation by the Bank of Canada and interference from the Canadian Government. They view it as good for business. For most Canadians who are not traveling to or buying from the US, what is good for business is good for the economy (jobs).

          As for Canadian Health Care Costs, I did not say that the premium was $13,000 per person, I said that the total overall cost to the government (taxpayers) was about $13,000 per person. This includes taxes, premiums and user fees. This number is accurate. If you personally pay less that that, that is because you are lower down on the income (and taxation) scale. That number is not outrageously different than in the US- except that in Canada there is close to universal coverage. Canadians are like the musketeers- all for one and one for all….

  • Camel S

    I’m in Canada, whoever wrote this article knows nothing. We are in a massive housing bubble, avg price of a home here is now $1 million in major cities. Our only economy right now is Alberta, extracting tar from sand. Our governments are broke, and corrupt. They are planning on selling off our assets, nuke plants, etc, to keep afloat.

    We are like the US in 2006, everything is booming on debt, which will sometime crash. Everything here is a bubble. 1 acre of land in the middle of nowhere, no even farmable, goes for $200,000. Historically it has been less valuable than US farmland. bubble bubble pop?!

    • Frank Bell

      @ Camel S

      You have to thank Mark Carney for that.

      This killer of the middle class and thief of your earnings has been rewarded for doing that to you. He is now head of the BoE and will keep stealing.

      Why doesn’t anybody protest against this financial terrorists?

      • Camel S

        They are too busy taking out $800,000 mortgages to buy 2400 sq-ft houses, and leasing luxury cars. Seriously, Canadians are living high on the hog right now, but at some point the painful process of de-leveraging will take place. When it does, it will be brutal.

    • Leigh

      Move to Manitoba :) Our family is looking at putting on offer on 160 acres of mixed Forrest and farm land less than 6 miles from a busy resort community and 40 minutes from Winnipeg for the price of 85 K.

    • Chris

      And it’s not that expensive everywhere! My wife and I just bought 1700 sq ft avg home for $115G. Saying its expensive everywhere is a general statement, doesn’t apply to everyone. It’s like looking at San Diego home prices, where we currently live, and thinking all if the US is this price. Any big city has expensive homes but big cities don’t define every inch of our country!

      • Camel S

        If you want to live in a hick town, or the east coast where there are no jobs, real estate is more moderately priced, no denying that. But those area’s aren’t exactly booming now are they?

    • Chris

      And PS. To say “whoever wrote this article knows nothing” shows that maybe you are in the same category! Ever heard that you don’t know how good you have something until it’s gone? If you love in Canada, and never in the US than you really can’t judge how accurate this article is. I have loved in the US for 12 years and I can say this article is very accurate…that’s one of the reasons why we are moving back to Canada(with my American wife). I’ve said for years Canadians don’t know how good we have it, leave for a while and maybe you’ll see!

      • Camel S

        We have it good, for now. That is the whole problem with a bubble! We have it amazing right now, too amazing! Everyone is taking out $800,000 mortgages, you see more BMW’s than GM’s now. But it is an illusion, because it is fuelled by debt. This debt bubble isn’t limited to Canada, but we certainly are not legit booming. The money being borrowed isn’t productive debt, it is consumer debt, the stinkiest dirty debt of all.

        • Mm Eeee

          Right on again! I live in a working class burb of 3 bedroom bungalows and each street has at least 1 house with a brand new porshe in driveway, 10 years ago I do not recall seeing 1 porshe in the whole town! POP!

    • Mm Eeee

      Absolutely right! Also, who are middle class in Canada? Gov employees (who is supposed to pay their fat pensions btw) and employees of monopolies we are forced to use at rip-off prices,ie the banks,telcom,utilities- no foreign competition allowed there! Private sector consists of lawn mowers and dog walkers of above mentioned elites!

    • DB

      It should be pointed out that there are only three cities with avg million dollar prices: Vancouver, Calgary, and Toronto. Vancouver prices are inflated by Asian investors, and Calgary by oil rich locals, leaving we’re-the-bigshots Toronto the only one in real danger of a correction or crash. By far and away, most Canadians live in smaller cities with reasonable home prices and decent job opportunities.
      Canada will have a balanced national budget next year (technically already this year) and a good hope of paying down the national debt, something the US will never do, mark my words.

  • Leigh

    I am Canadian and the economy where I live is in pretty great shape (Manitoba). There is new construction everywhere and businesses appear to be doing well. Our federal government has had a strong focus on a balanced budget and our current national debt is only 688 Billion, compared to the US debt of 17.5 Trillion. Sure we have less people, but the debt ration per person in Canada is about 20235 and in the US it is 55875 almost 3 times the amount. Factor into that, the fact that we have free health care for all and a robust ‘socialist’ welfare system and I am left wondering what the US spends all their money on?

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      Unproductive Trash.

  • BenguluruHuduga

    This boils down to leverage. There is a complete financialization of the economy going on. Whether its cell phones, housing, cars, college education or retirement, leverage is being increasingly used. Price of a commodity does not matter and is thrown out of the window. What matters is whether people can afford the per month payment.

    Now people who take these “low” interest rates to buy something are equally responsible for this crank because w/o this demand businesses will not offer such deals.

    Save up 18 months of cash. Yep its hard, but the positive part of this is apart from a house, one doesn’t need financing options for almost everything including a car.

  • Seen2013

    There’s more to the story here, Michael.

    The Canadians are being sold on integration with the US and Mexico through trade agreements that presently has the Canadian economy and middle class expanding. This is how integration is being sold. Canada is simultaneously harmonizing its laws and the rights of the populace as part of that integration. Heck, I remember when I was in Canada front page news over lumber were threatening a trade war with the US in 2005.

  • Chris

    Typical American comments from the other “guest”…”they are A holes”. To think that America is overly welcoming and Canada is strict? They threatened my brother in law with being arrested if he tried to cross into Michigan one more time froma charge he faced 16 years ago as a teen. So don’t think your Land of the free is any better. My American wife now sees on a regular basis how extremely rude US immigration is on a regular basis when we cross!

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      That’s because you are White. Democrats want no White immigrants.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Such a shame the Canadian middle class is doing better, eh?

    (sorry, couldn’t resist. And no, I’m not Canadian)

    • Tex May

      Hey Mondo, you should come for a visit- a long visit.

      I think you would like it. I think that we would like you. (You’re my favorite contributor here).

      After all, leaving for Canada is a ‘merican tradition. ‘Mericans have been doing it since the 1770’s. Some of our most upstanding citizens slipped across the border in the 1960’s and 70’s.

      My own grandfathers family came to Saskatchewan from Wisconsin in 1896.

      Looking forward to meeting you. :-)

  • daniel1154

    One of the primary reasons for the disparity relative to Canada today is demographics. America was not in decline in 1960 when it was 90% white. America at that time was the largest creditor nation in the world. Today we are the largest debtor nation in the history of the world.

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      It is trash of all colors that drag any nation down. Smart nation export their trash and import the best they can find. Uncle Sucker takes the scum no other nation will take and it is killing us.

      • Jakob Stagg

        Amen, that.

        • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

          We need to expel them or divide the country along I 70-80 perhaps.

      • daniel1154

        Yes, it’s just a coincidence that most of the trash in the US is non white. 11 trillion in transfer payments since the civil rights movement starting with Johnson’s war on poverty, and now you can’t set foot in most major cities in the US. It wasn’t that way in 1960.

        • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

          It is just Demon – rats getting their slaves back as they always said they would. Google “FounderChurch”

          • daniel1154

            Yes, onto the Government plantation of dependency.

          • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

            It means a great deal to me and all of us truth tellers to hear support from each other. Bless you.

  • sharonsj

    Not that you want to hear it or acknowledge it, but one reason for Canadian prosperity is their national health care system. That means nobody goes broke or bankrupt due to medical bills–unlike the U.S. where 60% of all bankruptcies are due to medical bills DESPITE most of those people having insurance.

  • Joe

    I’m Canadian, in Vancouver where the price of houses has gone crazy, like Toronto, Calgary…:
    We are on the same path the US was,is, too much debt.
    The Banks are pulling the same crap, different package.
    Calm before the storm, check back in a couple of years.

  • sonofseawolf

    Hi Michael and ec bloggers,
    Canada dealt with debt crises in the nineties and made some decisions that gave them a stronger Canadian dollar.
    Also, under the harper admin they have become environmental terrorists.
    Save the sands stop the keystone

    Protect yourself at all times 14/5

    • DB

      Excuse you! Please be more careful of how you use the term ‘terrorist’ in the future.

      • DB

        Terrorists don’t build pipelines, they blow them up. Pro-energy-development companies and governments are the reason for the prosperity of the last century. HUGE difference. I’m all for weaning our dependence on oil but save the terrorist name for those who really deserve it.

      • sonofseawolf

        Hi bd
        Lol
        Excuse you, in the future please be more careful about terrorizing poor little seawolf.
        Lol
        Canada is just a neophyte in the ecoterrorism column.
        Good ol ripoff usainc dropped two a bombs on civilian populations unleashed 1000 more on this continent. spread depleted uranium munitions all over the Middle East and near east in wars of occupation. let’s not forget their partner in crime BP. Prince William Sound, and the gulf of mexico, black sea dont believe the hype boy those ecosystems are destroyed for years to come.
        Love canal
        River on fire
        the State Department messing with people’s countries to bring in and refugees and then dumping them right in the middle of an all white neighborhood.
        Yeah i should reserve are the word terrorist for who really deserves it.

        Save the seals kill bp
        14/5

  • Chris

    Sharon, I see it everyday! In fact, one of my good friends went bankrupt at age 30 and eventually died 2 years later due to losing her insurance, waiting for disability to kick in(to which most are denied at least once), and no neurologist willing to see her d/t being uninsured. And she couldn’t afford the Cobra insurance of $600 a month in between her losing her insurance and getting disability. She died…I’ve lived in the US for 12 years and work in ER’s, I see and hear this story everyday!! It’s sad. The US has so much potential but the greed and love of money is systematically destroying this place. Those that love the US healthcare either are completely healthy and don’t use the system for more than the odd check up and cough or cold(for example). If your sick, good luck! Better have good credit and borrowing power to pay!
    There are great stories that come out of the system but to work in it day to day you would see that they are extremely few and far between!
    I have loved my life in the US, and Canada. But looking to the future and having decades of experience in both places, my American wife and myself are choosing to move to Canada shortly. Love the US but it’s just becoming too unstable, maybe we are moving to a different sinking ship but I’m willing to venture out and say the Canadian ship is sinking slower!

  • Westernman

    Well Michael,
    You may be well versed on the States but you obviously don’t have a clue whats happening in Canada.
    Things are actually worse here than the States in many ways – for sure economically. We get paid a bit more maybe but things up here cost 2 to 3 times as much as they do there. And the taxation! Crushing and getting worse all the time…
    Draconian gun laws, free speech is just a fading memory, Socialist/Communist Left Wing Liberal Nanny State Feminist Government regulating everything to within an inch it’s life…
    And don’t forget the joy of freezing to death at -40 or -50 and you don’t quite have the paradise you think it is..

    • Tex May

      Cry us a river!

    • DB

      Your name implies that you live in western Canada. If so, I wonder why you are complaining. I live in Alberta and things are just great here. We do pay higher taxes than Americans but health care is free. If you add health ins fees and taxes in the US, I think they actually end up paying more. I believe you’ve gone to the opposite extreme of Michael and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

  • Mudpie

    “In recent years, I have been up to Canada frequently, and I am always amazed at how much nicer things are up there.” I felt the same way about Australia. No longer do I believe the U.S. is the greatest place on earth. It is my home, but it has rotted considerably.

    Until somebody gets us beyond the race thing, any change will be impossible. You do not comprehend (or maybe you do) how much minorities have been taught to loathe traditional American values of liberty and freedom. We are going to continue this path. And of course there are millions of whites who do not get it either.

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      We are drowning in Democrat Trash and Scum.

  • Captain Canuck

    And we have Universal Health Care, regulated banks and realistic gun control. Three things even Conservative Canadians appreciate.

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      You don’t NEED the guns they way we do. We fight for our lives everyday against Democrat criminal trash.

  • Tex May

    Amen!

  • Rob W

    What happened to American exceptionalism?

    • Gay Veteran

      It died in the sands of Iraq.

      • aghast

        I would’ve thought it was in the jungles of Vietnam, but you’re probably right about that.

        • Gay Veteran

          aghAZt made a reasonable comment!?!?!?!
          excuse me while I look out the window to see if it is raining cats and dogs

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      Democrats killed it.

      • Rob W

        Both parties have us squarely in their sights. Your partisanship makes you look like a sucker.

        • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

          Third parties all fail under our Constitution.

  • Westernman

    Hey Tex,
    Nobody is crying nothing – I just thought I might point out a few FACTS to bring a little reality to this ” grass is greener on the other side of the fence” party.
    Take it from a guy who has lived in both countrys for 25 years each…

    • Tex May

      I have worked on both sides of he border or 10 years and done business across it for over over 30. At one time I would have given anything to be an “American” citizen. Now I just look across the border and shake my head. They don’t do anything better than us. Not a thing. And yes our grass really is greener.

      • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

        The Canadians don’t pack the volume of Democrat Trash on their back that we do.

  • GSOB

    EXODUS 32:

    9 And the Lord said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:

    10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.

    11 And Moses besought the Lord his God, and said, Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?

    12 Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.

    13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.

    14 And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people

  • DJohn1

    This keeping the Canadian dollar cheaper than the U.S. dollar. It was that way when I was stationed in Niagara Falls, New York. I think at the time the ratio was about 90/100.
    You can keep the foot of snow, thank-you.
    The thing that has changed is the U.S.A. has incurred way too much debt over the years. We have mistakenly gone to war several times at tremendous expense and I do not think we won those wars.
    There is a war going on today. That war involves people in economies that are far greater than 90/100. Try 2/100 as an example. Those are ball park figures not actual numbers.
    In 1965, the numbers were approximately these ratios:
    USA=$100
    Japan=$25
    Seoul, Korea=$10
    Rural Korea=$5
    Tawain=$2
    China=$2
    India=?
    Those were hourly wages including all benefits for an assembly line type work. The numbers constantly shift.
    The real number between Canada and the United States should be Canada at $1 and the USA at $.50.
    Now we bring in factors like shale oil and the entire picture can change over night. If we suddenly became the cheapest oil producer in the world, then the entire debt crisis would disappear.
    What else needs to change? I think Canada is right about Social Medicine from a financial standpoint. Doing away with health insurance privately and putting in a universal health care system might work.
    I think the entire political factor will keep that from happening here. Too many greedy insurance companies with a lobby in D.C.
    But if we had private mail companies, you are looking at $4 a stamp. I know the post office here is always broke.
    A universal national insurance might work or not.
    What the USA has to do soon is get off the idea that we are the greatest country on the planet. That we get to police the entire world. That is the expensive reality check. We have to get away from policing the world. Then we have to spend less than we earn as a government.
    If anyone thinks that will happen before a bankrupt government declares itself, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like you to look at.

  • Westernman

    Hey Tex,
    Your full of it…
    I suspect you just couldn’t cut it in the States – and are now suffering from U.S.A. envy … quite common among Canadians…

    • Chris

      USA envy? Really?? I’m curious to see the detailed description on this one!!

  • Westernman

    You are amazing Tex – Canadians are all for one and one for all? Hilarious, Canadians are the same as everyone else – Smarmy and self-rightous in times of plenty and vicous, backbiting tattletalers when things get tight…
    You know… you talk like a naieve 10 year old…

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      They don’t pack the Democrat trash on their back that we pack.

  • JULIA Dunkee III

    This is an understatement. The middle class is soon to be extinct. I was at a function and they brought out a tray of donuts. Think after work function. These people scarfed them down hard, and I noticed a couple socking away a doggie bag.
    Tough times, except in depression people stuck together. Now its dog eat dog man eat dog and dog eat man.

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      We abandoned God who was with in the Depression, and now God has abandoned us totally. This is truly a God forsaken country.

  • Jakob Stagg

    What American middle class?

    • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

      See my post.

  • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

    IT’S THE UNDERCLASS THAT DRAGS THE MIDDLE CLASS DOWN. They have to pack the increasing mob of feeder parasites who do not work, and even when they do work, they only work to degrade and drag down the whole society to their level.

    Canada doesn’t have to pack such a large and growing underclass of Democrats fueled by immigration of people Canada rejects. America takes in the scum of the earth that other countries refuse to take in even when they seek immigrants.

    Democrats are the enemy of this nation, sucking its blood. Google “FounderChurch”

  • Kevin B Econ 2411

    I am an undergrad
    student, and I have done a lot of work with America and its great
    depression. Thus an article about Canada and a possible depression
    interests me because I never even considered what kind of financial
    problems America’s neighboring countries are going through. I am glad
    that Canada is doing well, but of course I am concerned with the
    relative shrinking economy America is heading towards. What is
    causing America to go through these financial dilemmas? Well I know
    that bank panics are often a key problem with these economic
    crisis’s. Back in the time of the great depression these bank
    panics caused increases in circulation currency and excess reserve
    ratio (in attempt to save the banks going out of business during
    these panics). Unfortunately rises in c (currency ratio) and e
    (excess reserve ratio) cause reduction in the money supplier and
    available reserves, thus sparking a huge decrease in money supply.
    How big a decrease? In the span of 1930-1933 America’s money supply
    took a nose dive of 25% losses, a record in American history. Now
    while this current recession did not see as drastic a decrease, it is
    still a huge economic problem. The lack of middle class jobs you
    brought up in this post makes a very good point. I know that during
    the great depression, African-Americans and women had higher
    unemployment rates than Caucasian men, and that voluntary work was
    very common. I wonder how much these statistics have changed for our
    current recession happening several decades later? I also know that
    while certain businesses suffered greatly (say in this case, the
    “retail apocalypse” you mentioned) there were particular products
    deemed necessary for living (clothing, gas, food, etc) that only went
    through a small decrease. But overall I liked the tone of this
    article, that America needs to get fixing on these problems right
    now. What are our neighboring countries like Canada doing that we’re
    not? You say that in 2000 Americans were making more than Canada but
    now in 2014 we are sliding towards an oblivion of sorts. I notice
    that the top response in this blog post mentions how America spends a
    lot more time supporting the rest of the world than Canada does. This
    is a very good point. America is known as one of the strongest
    economic centers of the planet. The United States deals with more
    pressure from the global economy than certain neighboring countries
    thus our financial decisions (including the bad ones) have a bigger
    impact on the world. This post also mentioned how many households are
    taking in family members unable to find work. This was information
    that I never even considered. The fact that the number of people over
    fifty that are moving in with their parents is actually increasing is
    just scary. We need to find a solution to shift more workers away
    from these part-time and temporary jobs towards full time careers.
    Nine out of the top ten American occupations pay less than $35,000?
    That is a serious problem. We also need these politicians to stop
    sugar coating the harsh truth of these matters. Stop telling us that
    our economy is just fine and tell us what possible solutions you will
    use to try and fix it. America desperately needs to fix this
    economic crisis, but as you said, “most people can’t explain
    exactly what that is or how to fix it.”

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  • Kyle

    We have a damn communist as president. Liberal socialism is wrecking this country. We don’t secure our boarders. We send jobs and money overseas, and wonder what happened to our great nation.

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