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The WorldThe rest of the world has found out that the U.S. government has been listening to their phone calls and watching what they do on the Internet and they do not like it one bit.  Outrage has been pouring in from all over the planet, and one member of the European Parliament is even comparing the NSA to the Stasi.  But instead of stepping back and reevaluating our Big Brother spying methods now that they have been revealed, Barack Obama and other leading members of Congress are defiantly declaring that there is nothing wrong with these methods and that no changes will be made.  The U.S. government is going to continue to invade the privacy of the citizens of the rest of the world as much as it possibly can, and our leaders don't seem to really care what the international response is.  And make no mistake - the goal of the U.S. intelligence community is to literally know everything about everyone.  The chief technology officer of the CIA, Gus Hunt, made the following shocking admission back in March: "We fundamentally try to collect everything and hang onto it forever."  He followed that statement up with this gem: "It is really very nearly within our grasp to be able to compute on all human-generated information."  In other words, they want it all, and they nearly have the capacity to gather it all already.  So where does this end?  Will the U.S. intelligence community ever be happy until they have every piece of data on every single person on the entire planet?  Do we really want a government that collects "everything" and hangs on to it "forever"?

Thanks to Edward Snowden, the rest of the globe is starting to understand the extent to which the U.S. government has been spying on them.  Needless to say, a lot of people are extremely upset about this.

In Germany (a country that knows a thing or two about Big Brother tactics), some prominent politicians are publicly denouncing the surveillance that the U.S. government has been doing on their citizens.  In fact, one German politician has accused the U.S. of employing "American-style Stasi methods"...

In a guest editorial for Spiegel Online on Tuesday, Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger said reports that the United States could access and track virtually all forms of Internet communication were "deeply disconcerting" and potentially dangerous.

"The more a society monitors, controls and observes its citizens, the less free it is," she said.

"The suspicion of excessive surveillance of communication is so alarming that it cannot be ignored. For that reason, openness and clarification by the U.S. administration itself is paramount at this point. All facts must be put on the table."

Markus Ferber, a member of Merkel's Bavarian sister party who sits in the European Parliament, went further, accusing Washington of using "American-style Stasi methods".

In Italy, the government official in charge of data protection, Antonello Soro, said that the surveillance that the NSA is doing "would not be legal in Italy" and would be "contrary to the principles of our legislation and would represent a very serious violation".

In Russia (another country with a long history of using Big Brother tactics), President Vladimir Putin has expressed significant concern about the NSA spying program and there are even rumors that Russia will be offering asylum to Edward Snowden...

Alexey Pushkov, head of the Duma's international affairs committee and a vocal US critic, said on Twitter: "By promising asylum to Snowden, Moscow has taken upon itself the protection of those persecuted for political reasons. There will be hysterics in the US. They only recognise this right for themselves."

He continued: "Listening to telephones and tracking the internet, the US special services broke the laws of their country. In this case, Snowden, like Assange, is a human rights activist."

But even more important than what foreign politicians think about the NSA spying scandal is what average people all over the globe think.  This scandal is causing millions of average people all over the planet to look at the United States with disgust and disdain.  How can we hold ourselves out as the "defenders of freedom" to the rest of the globe when we are openly telling them that we are going to spy on them as much as we possibly can?  How do we expect the rest of the world to look at us as "the good guys" when we are selfishly grabbing and recording all of their emails, phone calls and Internet searches without any concern for their privacy whatsoever?

What makes all of this even worse is that our top intelligence officials are making jokes about this scandal.  For example, just check out the wisecracks that the Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, was making at an awards ceremony on Friday...

With the current and past directors of national intelligence at the Omni Shoreham to honor former CIA and National Security Agency chief Michael Hayden, the result in speeches and interviews with intel professionals was a gumbo of outrage, worry and humor.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the black-tie crowd of more than 700 he would “address the elephant in the room” and proceeded, to applause, to denounce “the unauthorized leaks as reprehensible and egregious.” Clapper characterized the program as completely legal, debated and reauthorized by Congress under strict oversight and by court order “to make our nation safe and secure.”

He then cracked a few jokes. “Some of you expressed surprise that I showed up—so many emails to read!” Clapper said. Greeting fellow banqueter John Pistole, the administrator of the Transportation Security Administration who recently reversed a planned policy to permit air travelers to carry certain knives on planes, Clapper said, “John, can I borrow your pocket knife?”

How in the world can he make a joke about reading our emails at a time like this?

This is how arrogant the U.S. intelligence community has become.  They feel like they can do whatever they want and get away with it.

For example, back in March Clapper flat out lied to the U.S. Congress about the surveillance that the NSA is doing.  When he was asked by Senator Ron Wyden if the NSA was collecting any information on the American people, Clapper completely denied it.

The following is from a transcript of that exchange...

"Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" Oregon Republican Sen. Ron Wyden asked Clapper at the March 12 hearing.

"No, sir," Clapper responded.

"It does not?" Wyden pressed.

Clapper recanted and said: "Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect -- but not wittingly."

Apparently Clapper must have "forgotten" that the government is forcing all of the big telephone companies to turn over all of their call records to the NSA every single month.

And you know what?  The truth is that the government is not just collecting "metadata" about our phone calls.  The content of our calls is being recorded and stored as well.  Just check out this story from the Blaze...

Hollywood actor Shia LaBeouf in 2008 during an appearance on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno detailed how he learned phone calls were allegedly being recorded.

Promoting the film “Eagle Eye,” which according to IMDb shows how “technology of everyday life [is used] to track and control,” LaBeouf told Leno that an FBI consultant for the movie said one in five phone calls made are recorded and logged.

“And I laughed at him,” LaBeouf said.

“And then he played back a phone conversation I’d had two years prior to joining the picture,” LaBouf continued.

Both Leno and LaBeouf concluded it was “extremely creepy.”

The American people, along with the people of the entire planet, deserve the truth about this.

Unfortunately, Barack Obama is certainly not going to tell us the truth, and there will probably only be a half-hearted effort by some members of Congress to get to the bottom of things.

That is why it is going to be important to take this to court, and thankfully a couple of lawsuits are already in the works.

According to U.S. News & World Report, one of these lawsuits is being filed by a former Justice Department prosecutor...

Former Justice Department prosecutor Larry Klayman amended an existing lawsuit against Verizon and a slew of Obama administration officials Monday to make it the first class-action lawsuit in response to the publication of a secret court order instructing Verizon to hand over all phone records of millions of American customers on an "ongoing, daily basis."

Klayman told U.S. News he will file a second class-action lawsuit Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia targeting government officials and each of the nine companies listed in a leaked National Security Agency slideshow as participants in the government's PRISM program.

And according to USA Today, the ACLU has also filed a lawsuit...

National Security Agency surveillance programs came under more scrutiny Tuesday as the American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit and a prominent senator and Internet giant Google called on the Obama administration to disclose more information.

In its lawsuit, the ACLU said an NSA program that harvests phone calls violates the rights of all Americans.

"The program goes far beyond even the permissive limits set by the Patriot Act and represents a gross infringement of the freedom of association and the right to privacy," said Jameel Jaffer, the ACLU's deputy legal director.

Hopefully these lawsuits will reveal more details about the spying that has been taking place.

There is also a "bipartisan coalition" of 86 Internet companies and civil liberties organizations that have sent a letter to Congress demanding action on these issues.  You can read the full letter right here.  Some of the organizations involved include the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Reddit, Mozilla, FreedomWorks, and the Center for Digital Democracy.

Will Congress listen to them?

Probably not.

But at least they are trying to do something about this.

The key will be to get the American people outraged enough about all of this that they won't forget about it in a week or two.  And that is not an easy thing to do.

There have been a couple of public opinion polls taken over the past few days that show some very curious results.  A Rasmussen survey found that 59 percent of Americans are against the government secretly collecting our phone records and only 26 percent are in favor.  But a Washington Post survey found that 56 percent of Americans consider the collecting of our phone records to be "acceptable" and only 41 percent consider the practice to be "unacceptable".

How could those two surveys get such wildly different results?

A lot of it is in the way that they ask the questions.

In the end, our politicians don't really care too much about what the general public thinks anyway.  They are just going to continue to do what they have been doing and the rest of the world will continue to become even more disgusted with us.

We are recklessly destroying our global reputation and our leaders do not even seem to care.  But someday America will need some friends, and when that day arrives we may find that we don't have too many left.

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  • WarriorClass III

    The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

    “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

    The FBI, IRS, DOJ, DHS, NSA, CIA, the Supreme Court, and the White House are no longer a legitimate governing body, having broken their governing contract with the people (the Constitution) on so many occasions, the Federal government has voided its right to govern by breach of contract.

    The fact that every State Government has allowed this to continue on so long a time, renders their governing contract just as void and illegitimate as the Federal Government’s.

    It’s way past time to re-secure our God-given inalienable rights. “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    • Dr. G

      Amen! We could use some new guards.

    • Imdonewithdc

      What about burning our social security cards in mass? Whenever I post that suggestion on yahoo it gets deleted

      • Mondobeyondo

        They’ll still have your SSN on file, somewhere, in a cardboard box hidden under some obscure government building in Tennessee.

        Won’t work.

      • honkytonkpreacher

        Simply burning Social Security cards would not do any good except perhaps have symbolic value. You would need to get your signature revoked.

      • Arizona

        A US senator in denver told us the government doesn’t care what we want, so go home we have a ticket?..(to the underground maybe)..whats coming,”NIBIRU”…………………

  • Gregge K Johnson

    NSA and DHS can Not be sued . They have complete immunity under the United Nations Charter. All who want to send their money for Legal Defence Fund are Dreaming !

  • Rodster

    And don’t forget interment camps that go along with all this data collection. Who would’ve thought that America would become home to George Orwell’s 1984 and Russia would become Land of the Free?

    • chilller

      If you see an internment camp and do nothing to dismantle it, YOU are an accomplice, a coward or both…

      • Rodster

        Don’t worry about me, i’m not interment camp material. I’d rather go down with a fight.

    • Ralfine

      You can take an internment camp, change the walls to transparent and put cameras everywhere to create homes for those who have nothing to hide.

      • Rodster

        Oh, no I won’t. What you are trying to say in a round about way is “polishing a turd”. You can go to an interment camp if you want, not me.

        • mysticalfilmaker

          its sarcasm, Roster.

    • markthetruth

      Don’t Forget ! ” Obama’s open mic slip: After my election I have more flexibility ”

      the end…

    • HerrinSchadenfreude

      People who pay attention and despise normalcy bias. That’s who.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Internment camps in the USA? How silly! Or so 99 percent of Americans may think.

  • b fast

    I understand that the ACLU is suing the government questioning their actions vis-a-vis the fourth amendment. They really need to win! This is a flagrant violation of the fourth.

  • markthetruth

    Since When did God put our Government in Charge !!! For their information Morgan Freeman is an Actor !!!

    the end…

    • Mondobeyondo

      It’s still Satan’s world – we’re just living in it.
      But not for long…!!

  • SADinUSA

    It has been said that if only the world knew what Hitler was up to and would do they could have prevented it. All of what has happened since Bush Sr. stated there was a New World Order, most notably the 9/11 inside job and subsequent criminal wars in Iraq and Afganistan (War on Terror) is too similar to ignore. I thing the American people have friends in the world even if our government does not and hopefully some of them will come to our rescue.

    • JustanOguy

      Volume 2 of Mein Kampf was written in 1926 that laid the plans of what Hitler wanted to do. Full editions were widely available in 1933 for anybody to read.

      People who paid attention and took his philosophies seriously knew what he wanted to do… but nothing was done about it until it was too late.

      As you note… the abuse by the U.S. Government just grows with every administration and every re-election of the big government cronies that plague Washington D.C.

      It’s not that people can’t get a good idea of what somebody wants to do…. it’s just that they don’t pay attention…. until it’s too late.

      • Mondobeyondo

        Do you know what the most shocking thing about “Mein Kampf” is?

        No one of any importance, or high positions of power, took it seriously.

        Just another drunkard in a beer hall putsch with some extremely radical ideals.

        Many of you don’t know this — but the Allies came very, very close to losing World War II. Maybe because of propaganda, maybe because of something else.- people think that D-Day was the defining moment of WWII. Not so.

        I won’t go into details. ( Where were you during 20th century history class in high school??!)

        Had it not been for Stalingrad, the Allies would not have made it.

        Thank God for that.

        Okay, history lesson over!

    • Steve

      No one is coming to our rescue. We’ve cheered every invasion and bombing. No love for bullies when karma comes around.

  • mleblanc138

    The small town of Bluffdale Utah just 20 miles to the north of me is getting national and even international attention. Unfortunately, it’s probably not good attention since it’s of course all about the NSA spy center.

    • Dr. G

      Bluffdale is 20 miles south of me. I figure Hill Air Force base just got a lifeline. They’ll never close it down just to provide cover for the data center. Which begs the question: doesn’t this make Utah a prime target for any nation’s nuclear weapon or lots of conventional ones?

      • Ralfine

        The spying on your toilet habits by the NSA will have more influence on your life than any foreign power.

        • JustanOguy

          And the Chinese that hack into it….

          Great info. to modify the products they manufacture for Wal-Mart.

          • Ralfine

            The Chinese just do what the NSA does. So, if the NSA is right, so are the Chinese.

        • Mondobeyondo

          Hmm, just what WAS that you flushed down into the NSCS (National Sewage Conglomeration System)?

          Inquiring minds want to know, and believe me,they are gonna find out!

      • BonusGift

        Yes, and even though not likely part of the chain of command per say, it will be viewed as part of what is called “command and control”; that is, once up and running it will rightly be seen as a key part of command and control. If you still expect to be living in the area when it is up and running make sure you are up wind of it and outside of the normal blast zone.

  • seth datta

    This is next-gen warfare being conducted upon the people of the West. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what kind of stuff they have planned for us next………….

    • peaceangel

      But will GEN X—–

      The Entitlement Generation get off the couch and fight this fight because their grandparents have given up and given in and their parents are the uninformed and they are LAZY as a generation and for three decades have been brain washed by the Marxist education system to NOT CARE about anything.

      LOTS of them are atheists and believe their country and the world owes them something and they do not have a clue how to communicate AT ALL except in short hand on a phone or computer. Their communication skills are horrible even with each other. They divorce by text and sext on phones and online like the rest of us change our underwear and they are unbelievably mean to each other and have zero respect for their elders or each other or their parents.

      They DO NOT KNOW what Marxism or Socialism or Communism even are. They think those are lifestyles of zombies, tin foil hats and Illuminati conspiracies. All that kind of education and most all history were taken out of school 30 years ago. IF they had these classes history had been rewritten by the NEA and the Bilderberg group who has written our school curriculum for 60 years or more.

      THEY know nothing about government or how it works because civics is gone too and so is geography. They cannot even pick out where any 5 states are in the US which Oprah proved over and over again.

      Millions of kids drop out of high school and 17 million are homeless and 80% of ALL foster kids are addicted to psychotropic drugs under the age of 30.

      Millions more of them are ON psychotropic drugs and/or may need to be although I would NEVER put my kid on anything approved by the USFDA.

      American kids are number one in the world for autism, ADD, ADHD, OCD, clinical depression, Bi-polar disease, Schizophrenia, seizures, rage issues and any other mental or physical disease or disorder you can think of.

      They do not know the basics of the constitution, declaration of independence or the bill of rights and cannot recite the pledge of allegiance or sing our national anthem and they have been taught by everyone in their lives that grown ups CANNOT be trusted and for good reason.

      OUR government made them this way by design and parents DID nothing. IN FACT Obama and Bill Ayres put the first truly marxist NEA program into schools nationwide 30 years ago and then COMMON CORE came along and now they have a full on marxist program in the WAR on KIDS which is detailed in a documentary every parent should see yesterday and the American Psychiatric Association reported that 50% of ALL Americans suffer from clinical depression which is HUGE and that includes the kids and that 25% of ALL Americans are sociopaths and 15% are psychopaths. .

      Will these damaged kids take up the sword???

      I have been asking that of 20 and 30 year olds for two decades nationwide and so FAR this is the first time the world is speaking of the things I have studied for four decades about the creation of the NWO and they do not care. Lots more 20 something year olds KNOW what is coming than their parents or grandparents and have perused the fema camps online and either THEY do not believe it is real and think it is photo shopped OR THEY do not care OR THEY think their parents will stop it and the list goes on for why they KNOW and are DOING NOTHING like the rest of us.

  • Benjamin the Donkey

    Four feet good, two feet better. Will the real pigs please stand up?

  • oli

    The internet is one part that takes care of gathering information in the ether. This is combined with practical applications in the real world such as smart street lighting & drones.

    Skype & Facebook gather data for voice recognition & face identification, which then can be used by smart street lighting to identify individuals in the road & passed on to drones that take care of the trouble maker.

    • Ralfine

      No wonder hats are getting more popular.

  • GSOB

    Good ole snail mail is still around.

    I’m no fan of the ACLU.

    • atmajnana

      Are you not aware of the supreme crisis in which this fading nation finds itself? Everyone must cast aside their negative bias against organizations they find offensive for whatever perceived reason in the past, and join in solidarity with the ends those organizations seek to accomplish in preserving our Constitution. Any organization taking on the policies of this captured government works for all of us at this stage, a stage which can probably be termed the “too late stage.”

  • Imdonewithdc

    Personally I refuse to finance my own prison cell and so far this year I have not needed to be paid so I legally owe no taxes. I’m going to hold out as long as I can in not funding DC.

    • Ralfine

      If you are needed they will find a way to imprison you in one of those private labour camps and work you way to freedom.
      “Arbeit macht Frei”

      They might find that you jaywalked every day.

  • Marie

    They are singling out people who expose corporations, corruption and government.

  • Ralfine

    Well, democracy is the government by the people. This would include at the very least participation of the people.

    How many Americans are really participating? Isn’t it rather that the only form of participation is the watching of talk shows of presidential candidates and then making a cross behind the name of the best talk show participant, if at all?

    Most American let the country being run by others. And over 60% are not even participating in elections.

    It that the style of democracy America wants to export to every corner of the world through CIA and wars?

    • sequoia

      In the USSA, all of the elections are rigged.
      All of the government officials are puppets,controlled and bought by the banking cartels,the war industrial complex,and many other corporations.
      As Gerald Celente says “the elecions are the PRESIDENTIAL REALITY SHOW’.
      The people think that they are participating,but in reality,the big power groups are controlling everything,
      The American Republic and constitution are DEAD.
      The Amerikan Sheeple are brainwashed to think this is a democracy and that the elections matter,but in reality,everything is rigged.
      Unfortunatly, our solldiers are fighting and getting killed for the rights and prifits for the big corporations and the Amerikan sheeple support the well being of the big corporations and interests of the power elite in the banking cartels.
      The USSA is a FASCIST country.The merger of state and corporations.The majority of the people in the USSA are to ignorant to see it, and dont whant to know it.

      • kfilly

        Very well said, and unfortunately, itnis also very true.

      • Ralfine

        Just ask yourself this:
        How often in your life did you elect democrats or republicans, and how many times did you elect someone else?
        And how many times you just didn’t care who is ruling over you and didn’t participate at all, in elections to your village council, your union, the county sheriff, the president?

    • TellingItLikeItIs

      The United States is not a Democracy. The United States is a Representative Republic. Representative Republics are different than a Democracy.

      One only need to recite our pledge to know the USA is a Republic….”and to the Republic for which it stands.”

      • HerrinSchadenfreude

        You mean the pledge that’s being banned in schools nationwide?

      • onecansay

        Well, should you be a true blue american you would KNOW that ‘The United States of America’ is The ‘Representative Republic’. Man you yanks are dumb!!!

  • MeMadMax

    “Any computer(or device) connected to the internet is considered unsecured”
    Network Security 101

  • checkmate to humanity

    Just check a video in youtube called
    “Checkmate to humanity (english)”

    We are only living the beginning of the nightmare!

  • chilller

    The gubermint is looking for all the Edward Snowdens who might expose their criminal activity. The gubermint failed to keep its word to uphold the constitution before Snowden failed to keep quiet. This is no different than asking soldiers to murder people and not question or talk about those orders. The people running these organizations are fully responsible for their criminal activity and Snowdens decision to come forward. Snowden is a hero, the NSA is a ZERO!

  • Timbo

    Suggest you email your phone company and let them know you will not be paying your bill if they are allowing others to eavesdrop. Any customer should reasonably expect this.

  • K

    The parallels between the situation in the U.S., and 1930′s Germany is amazing. The Government does not care what the people think, and 80% of the population does not want to know what the Government is doing. Even people who will admit something is wrong. Watch their attitude, It is like O.K. I admit there is something wrong, now leave me alone, I do not want to know anymore. When the Germans say you are going too far, you crossed the line a long time ago. A simple reminder, when a puppet like Obama is upsetting you. It does little good to grab the puppet, you need to go after the ones pulling the strings.

    • Timbo

      So is Obama the puppet of people like Soros? Co-workers and friends tell me he is a rag doll for international Jewry.

      • kfilly

        Yes, he is a Rothschild puppet. The Rothschild, Du Pont, Rockefeller, Warburg, and there are a few others run the world. They control the money. Ine of the Rothschild s even stated something to the effect that I don’t care who makes the laws, as law as I control the money I control the country. Look who owns our Federal Reserve Bank.

        • K

          Do not be deceived. It is no one ethnic group. This is how they control you. Are the people that both Timbo and kfily mentioned involved, yes. Along with european royalty, russian billionaires, and leftover nazis. They are greedy, power mad individuals. That is all they have in common. There idea of paradise for them, smell of sulfur and brimstone for us.

          • kfilly

            I agree with that. I was just trying to keep it simple.

          • K

            Understood, no problem

        • Adrian

          Funny, then, that people call Obama a socialist or a Marxist. A pro-Wall Street Marxist…now that’s a new one!

      • GE

        You must b nuts. Obama isn’t for the Jews, he is trying to get them to give their God given land to the Muslims who if they get it will trash it like everything they touch

        • Mondobeyondo

          Is Obama for the Jews per se?

          No.

          Obama is for what suits Obama’s agenda, and the U.S. agenda, Jews or anyone else be darned.

          Case in point: The recent shake-up in the President’s national security team. Even I don’t know who’s who anymore.

          • Mondobeyondo

            Not that I ever knew to begin with. Heh!!

    • kfilly

      I believe it isn’t just coincidence either. The ruling families just pulled out their script, changed a few details, and then they are going to re-release it on us pawns. It is kind of like how Hollywood does remakes of all movies.

    • Mondobeyondo

      It’s a combination of desperate people seeking desperate solutions – and throwing the consequences of their decisions out the window.

      Will 1933 Germany = 2013 America?
      No.

      But even such a suggestion, shows how desperate the sheeple are becoming.

      • K

        I hope you are right Mondo. But with the new technology, it could turn out to be far worse. You have scientists claiming they can scan a human brain, and tell the emotional state of that person. Now imagine a machine that can scan a crowd. You show a picture of dear leader, and grab everyone who’s scan shows anger. They claim they should have such tech in 5 years. Now if you believe as some do. That the military is on average, 7 years in advance of the private sector. They may already have it.

        • Mondobeyondo

          I hope I am right as well. But, human nature is a fickle thing. Almost impossible to predict.

          People will vote for anything these days, if it suits their agenda.. Literally, anything

          Tell them Shakira tells the truth. At first, they won’t believe you. Now play her hit song “Hips Don’t Lie”. Bingo! She’s got 51 percent of the male vote right there. (That’s conservative. I’d guess 70-85 percent of the male vote.)

  • JustanOguy

    Electronic Intelligence being gathered is only as good as the information inputted.

    @Michael — Maybe you can follow up with the fact that only one potential terrorist has been caught using these methods since this outrageous abuse of taxpayer dollars started?

    In other words…. the cries of treason by the big Crony politicians such as Dianne Feinstein and Lindsay Graham are complete bunk.

    • kfilly

      You really believe this security was brought on to catch those evil t-words (that I can’t say because big brother is watching). This security wasn’t brought on to watch them. It was brought on to watch us. The gubernment is the evil t-word. We are a fascist nation. This slide started with the creation of the Fed. It has been a hundred year war to steal our wealth and freedom. A majority of the people are still too dumb to realize that.

      • JustanOguy

        Just pointing out that that’s the big government cronies excuse for this latest abuse of power.

        Not enough room to point out all of the abuses since the Fed. Trying to keep it on topic… ;)

  • Paulo

    In my view, as a Brazilian citizen, is that the credibility of USA depends much more on what its people will do, than its politicians will. You are, supposedly, the major democracy in the world. It’s time to prove you’re right, or the rest of the world will prove you’re just braggarts.

    • JustanOguy

      Well Stated.

      Exactly what I think about the citizens of Iran, Cuba, North Korea and Venezuela that don’t do anything but go along with propaganda and tyranny.

      • HerrinSchadenfreude

        Iran is not a tyrannical warmongering propaganda factory. They’ve not attacked another country in over 200 years, for any reason, least of all over imperialism. You must be confusing them with America.

        North Korea I agree with.

        Cuba has forever only been a tiny strategic pawn tossed around between Russia and America. They don’t have a whole lot going for them where withstanding the tide of global tyranny is concerned.

        You might as well ask Taiwan to stand alone against Mainland China or ask why they haven’t.

        • JustanOguy

          What do any of the above comments have anything to do with governments attacking other countries?

          The comments are about the citizens that put up with their government’s nonsense…

    • Mondobeyondo

      But – the politicians are supposed to represent the people! We voted for them!

      Right?

      “At least – in the America… I used.. to know.*

      * – Nod to Christopher Plummer in the movie “The Sound of Music”

  • Syrin

    I never thought I would see the day when US citizens fled to China and Russia for asylum from our own totalitarian gov’t.

    • HerrinSchadenfreude

      If you but review how quickly our greatest WWII generals tried to subordinate continued harmony with our WWII allies and the magnitude of the human rights atrocities we defeated together to delusions of grandeur about what we could become and control if we sold said allies out and attacked them while they were weakened from the struggle they joined us in, you would realize that this is not the one of the three countries that was ever interested in planetary harmony, integrity, or doing what was just.

  • krinks

    The show was over the minute Boehner passed up the chance to call Edward Snowden a hero and stand for liberty and freedom. As it was he chose to endorse the Stasi and call for his arrest.
    Just so you know where all of this is headed, watch the great German film about life in East Germany; ‘The Secret Lives of Others’. Keep in mind though the East Germans could escape to the west. We in the west have no where to go.

  • Barn Cat

    Yeah, they have to play the “outraged” song and dance. The globalists are outraged that they were outed. I’m sure the same thing is being done by the Europeans.

  • Harry Lime

    As Milton Friedman said “You can have unrestricted immigration or a welfare state, but not both.” Well, you can have a country full of dangerous Muslims and Mexican gangs let in by an accommodating government or you can have total privacy but not both. We’ve chosen to have a dumb police state (in the words of Daniel Greenfield) because we refuse to identify and profile the real potential terrorists and dangerous criminals. Therefore, everyone must be under suspician. The reason wide spread surveillance was not used before 1965 is that we had a high-trust relatively homogeneous population.

  • kfilly

    Michael, I am not trying steer people away from yoursite. I have been reading your blogs for about 6 months now. I have commented a few times. I think it is pretty aparent what is taking place. The global elite are trying to usher in the New World Order (global totalitarian communist gubernment). In communism, only the ruling class has rights and while while the peasants work as slaves. America is set up to be the global police state while Britain is the financial arm. Saudi Arabia and Israel are also involved in this plot. We are the lastnstand for glibal freedom. As a result, I urge members to also check out other freedom sites. You don’t have to leave here, but I encourage more involvement. I am a member of a new site called Prepared to Take America Back. It was started about a month ago, and they trying to boost membership. They also have some links and ideas to help reclaim the country. It is a paid site, but all proceeds go to getting a Constitutional lawyer to remove the current POTUS. A yearly subscription is $10.

    • K

      kfilly, please be careful. There could not be a worse place to put such a site, than facebook. That is the most monitored site on the planet. I am not saying it is a trap. But if it is not, someone has made some very foolish choices.

  • ian

    The stories on the blog are becoming less and less about economic collapse. Maybe the hopeless are finally starting to realize that there is hope after all and that the economy is about to regain strength. Looks like Obama wasn’t the antichrist after all .

    • Syrin

      Wow, you are a special kind of stoopid, aren’t you? He has authorized the IRS to target citizens, authorized killing citizens without trial, authorized taking citizens and throwing them in prison indefinitely without charge or trial. He has decimated the economy and illegally appointed over 40 czars. I could go on for PAGES. You state felating leftists just love your abusive tyrants, don’t you?

      Regain strength ?!?!?! Please, stop taking the meth. Obamacare is in its infancy. It will completely DECIMATE the economy as will all his other taxes and regulations. Our biggest export is manufacturing jobs. What in the WORLD makes you think there is or ever will be ANY sort of economic recovery. EVERY economic metric aside from the QE inflated Dow tells you our economy is in free fall. WAKE UP YOU LEMMING !!

      • kfilly

        I agree. I believe this collapse is 100 percent intentional as well. How else does one complete the transformation from a “capitalist” society to communism? You have to destroy the old way before the new system is ushered in. People will willing give up their rights for food provided by the state. So, it will begin. However, I believe they will let people starve and fight it out for awhile just to thin the heard.

      • kathy k

        Clap,Clap,Clap nice response Syrin

      • Shmeggle Marxist

        “state felating leftists”. lololol. libs are total garbage

        • Gay Veteran

          still falling for left vs. right, eh?

      • Gay Veteran

        “…illegally appointed over 40 czars….”
        well you were right up to that point

      • ian

        and yet you probably stood idly by while Bush raked our rights over hot coals. Eh?

      • ian

        once again, retarded right wingers immediately leap to the conclusion that anyone who disagrees must be a leftist looney or a communist looney.

    • HerrinSchadenfreude

      On the contrary, they are more and more about all of the different ways in which said economic collapse is being brought about.

  • Evan Webb-Stuart

    denmark

    • Mondobeyondo

      sweden!

  • K

    Here is an interesting thought. A friend asked me, did I think chief justice Roberts, was blackmailed into approving O;Care. With all the intercepts, I had to admit it was possible. I will now tell you, what I told him. If that happened, we really no longer have a Supreme Court. There is not but one justice on that court, who might stand up to a blackmailer. Not a single bit of proof this happened. Just something to make you say hmmmm.

    • Syrin

      Dude, you are NOT paying attention. They have data on EVERYONE. They could blackmail ANYONE they want. Look up Roberts adopted blond haired kids, and you’ll see QUICKLY, that not only is it possible, but likely. Roberts changed his entire position over night after a clandestine meeting with Obama’s goons. He was VISIBLY flustered, and his legal defense for his decision is perhaps some of the worst legal thinking and writing in the history of the Supreme Court.

      • Sophia

        We have data on you mr “Syrin”. U Mad?

    • kfilly

      We already don’t have a Supreme Court. Just as an example, Clarence Thomas did not reclusive himself from ruling on a case where Monsanto was involved despite his previous ties with that company. Conflict of interest. I’d say that is.

    • kfilly

      Oh, I forgot there are also two communists on the court also. Kagen and Santomayer.

      • Shmeggle Marxist

        that old bag Ginsberg despises the USA as well

    • Gay Veteran

      or Roberts is just another corporate whore

  • Pauly

    No comment.

  • jen

    well fellow Americans are we gonna stand for this BS surrender and go straight to internment camps or are we gonna get off our a** and do something about it? Where are the brave that once stood up for this great nation. We are being taken over from within by commies. It’s now or never! We must flood the politicians with phone calls and strikes and demand answers and vote them out. we need to press charges against those who are commiting treason, and put them in the internment camps.

    • Mondobeyondo

      True Americans will never stand for that.
      Never. Never. NEVER.

      The day we stand before an internment camp, will be the day we liberate its citizens.

      • Orange Jean

        Well Mondo,
        Did you know that during WWII there were US citizens whose ancestors happened to be of Japanese decent who were put in internment camps… there was one particularly large one near China Lake, CA. Just sayin’!

      • Stock

        Isn’t going to happen.

        We didn’t know about the Concentration Camps in Germany until the war was almost over. Likewise, when the FEMA camp activity starts here, people are just going to disappear. Groups that they want to exterminate will start with the propaganda machine and remaining Americans will turn their hatred towards them (just look at comments between die hard Dems an Repubs on many political article).

        That is the strategy – divide the people then conquer them one group at a time.

        Before this is over, I have a very sinking feeling that millions of Americans will be “exterminated” and the world will sit by as it happens calling all of us “Stupid Americans”.

        Stalist russia is upon us and we are just sitting and hoping someone else will save us rather than taking any action ourselves. Just the kind of Sheeples that tyrants and dictators love.

  • pacman7331

    Great entry.

  • Mondobeyondo

    WAKE UP! Your government no longer belongs to you!

  • Inhuman

    Let America burn it self down, the empire must end. I will no longer describe myself as an American, as this disgusts me and I will not be affiliated with the globalist pigs that have taken over our country and our world.

  • Ralfine

    “Rendition”
    Interesting movie.

  • 007

    It’s a shame this monster is going bankrupt. Makes me change my mind on the out of control entitlement spending. At least they can’t use that money to further their police state.

  • Ludwig

    America has literally become the former USSR. It will rot and implode just like the former USSR as well. Though, that may take some time. We just have to survive it.

  • Jason7189

    “If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy”. -James Madison, 4th President of the United States.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Privacy? WHAT privacy?!?
    Hush now. Google Earth is loading…

    Yes, we know where you are.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Re: Big Brother spying methods, and such as:

    Who do you trust more?
    Your in-laws? Or those out-laws?
    Just curious.

  • PaulBraveheart

    Who will watch the watchers?

  • John

    There are no “good guys”. Nations look after their own interests, or at least the interests of those with power, wealth, etc.
    China uses its intel infrastructure for commercial gain as well as conventional uses. I wouldn’t be surprised if the USA was doing the same, even to its “friends” in Canada, Europe and elsewhere.

  • jim jiminy

    hey Michael you think you Deserve the truth?: We have known, and been very vocally opposed about this for 22 years in my case. Where have you been? We knew about this program when it was being proposed in congress 20 years ago. Where were you. I wrote my representative dozens of times about this and dozens more issues. We dont need more congressional lawsuits to figure it out. It is inheritanly and totally Dystopia. We need new governments Globally. And that my friend is exactly what their Hegelian Dialect Problem, Reaction. Solution will propose.

  • Michael Servetus

    At no time in American history has the reputation for credibility and integrity of the US been this low in the opinion of other nations and peoples.

  • thetruthmaster1

    The US Military has over 1000 US bases in Foreign Countries. There are only about 205 actual recognized countries in the world, meaning that there are 5 US Bases for every country in the world. Each US Military base is a listening post, Basically a spy center in these countries monitoring all electronic data, phone conversations and emails. IN exchange we place some rogue dictator into the leadership role, and the citizens of that country get their natural resources rapes from them and we control them by force and puppet dictators. Oh, and the US Tax Payer gets to pay for the over bloated Spy network that causes the rest of the world to hate us. Thus the Pentagon asks for more money to keep us safe so they claim. See the problem here folks? Time to stop feeding the beast who is killing us. Why doe the American Tax payer pay Israel $8 Million a day? F-n Insane!!!

  • Bob Marshall

    In 1900 the illiteracy rate of the adult population in the U.S. was 11%. today it is 25%. Among high school graduates it is nearly 23% yet more and more money is poured into our educational system. Is this the reason so many in America are politically ignorant or do they just prefer socialism?

  • Power ballad

    As a uk citizen I have to say that the acts of the us government to not reassure the world of the benefits but just release statements about how we should just go along with it poses a worrying thought to me , is the drive to force technology into people’s hands and having children using iPads etc with there education to aid education? More likely it’s a sleeper tactic to endoctrenate people for generations to come with the idea they need tech, in turn continuing to feed the ever growing database that these governments want on all of us. I sound like Alex jones but hey, that’s how I feel

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