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World War III Draws Closer As Russia Accuses Turkey Of Being ‘Secret Allies’ With ISIS

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2S19 Msta-S - Photo from Wikimedia CommonsAre Russia and Turkey on the verge of going to war?  In remarks that were almost entirely ignored by the western media, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov accused the Turkish government of being “secret allies” with ISIS on Friday.  And on Monday, the Russians announced that they would be attempting to seal the border between Syria and Turkey, and we also learned that the Russians have been rushing heavy artillery units into Syria.  As tensions between Russia and Turkey continue to escalate, could we be in danger of seeing World War III erupt in the Middle East?

The Russians have clearly become convinced that Turkey is at the core of the problems in Syria, and that is why the Russians now plan to completely seal Syria’s border with Turkey.  Lavrov seems to think that this will represent a giant step toward defeating terror groups such as ISIS…

“We are convinced that by blocking the border we will in many respects solve the tasks to eradicate terrorism on Syrian soil.”

And the Russians are right about this.  ISIS militants use Turkey as a home base, and it has been documented that Turkey has been “training ISIS militants, funneling weapons to them, buying their oil, and tending to their wounded in Turkish hospitals”.

It was already common knowledge that Turkey was doing all of these things, but now the Russian government is publicly accusing the Turkish government of being “secret allies” with ISIS.  When Lavrov chose to use these words on Friday, he knew exactly what he was saying…

“We think it highly cynical when some of the countries speak about their commitment to the corresponding United Nations Security Council resolutions and declare themselves members of anti-terrorist coalitions but in reality are playing a game where terrorists are allocated the role of secret allies,” Lavrov stressed. “We have more and more questions about Ankara’s real plans and the degree of its readiness to exterminate terrorism, in particular in Syria, and its commitment to the normalization of the situation in Syria.”

So why would Turkey want to be allies with ISIS?

Well, first of all the Turkish government hates the Assad regime in Syria and would love to see it eliminated.

Secondly, ISIS has been selling hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stolen oil in Turkey, and it has been alleged that the Turkish president’s own family is involved.

This was all supposed to be on the down low, but now the Russians are extremely angry and they are airing this dirty laundry for all the world to see.  On Monday, Vladimir Putin said that his government had “received additional information” that ISIS is shipping oil to Turkey on an “industrial scale”

Russia has received additional intelligence confirming that oil from deposits controlled by Islamic State is moved through Turkey on an industrial scale, said Vladimir Putin. President Recep Erdogan said he will resign if this is confirmed.

Moscow has grounds to suspect that the Su-24 was downed by Turkish jets on November 24 to secure illegal oil deliveries from Syria to Turkey, he said speaking on the sidelines of the climate change summit in Paris on Monday.

At the moment we have received additional information confirming that that oil from the deposits controlled by Islamic State militants enters Turkish territory on industrial scale,” he said.

We have every reason to believe that the decision to down our plane was guided by a desire to ensure security of this oil’s delivery routes to ports where they are shipped in tankers,” Putin said.

And of course it isn’t just the Russians that are making these claims.

Mowaffak al Rubaie is a former member of the Iraqi Governing Council, and he says that sales of ISIS oil in Turkey have amounted to approximately 100 million dollars a month

In the last eight months ISIS has managed to sell … $800 million dollars worth of oil on the black market of Turkey. This is Iraqi oil and Syrian oil, carried by trucks from Iraq, from Syria through the borders to Turkey and sold …[at] less than 50 percent of the international oil price,” Mowaffak al Rubaie said in an interview with RT.

“Now this either get consumed inside, the crude is refined on Turkish territory by the Turkish refineries, and sold in the Turkish market. Or it goes to Jihan and then in the pipelines from Jihan to the Mediterranean and sold to the international market.”

“Money and dollars generated by selling Iraqi and Syrian oil on the Turkish black market  is like the oxygen supply to ISIS and it’s operation,” he added. “Once you cut the oxygen then ISIS will suffocate.”

You can’t sell 100 million dollars of stolen oil a month without the U.S. government knowing about it.

That means that Barack Obama has been fully aware of what has been going on, and he hasn’t told the American people the truth.

One of the reasons for his silence could be the fact that the president of Turkey’s own son has been involved.  Just check out what Syrian Information Minister Omran al-Zoubi said just the other day

“All of the oil was delivered to a company that belongs to the son of Recep [Tayyip] Erdogan. This is why Turkey became anxious when Russia began delivering airstrikes against the IS infrastructure and destroyed more than 500 trucks with oil already. This really got on Erdogan and his company’s nerves. They’re importing not only oil, but wheat and historic artefacts as well.”

For much more on all of this, please see my previous article entitled “The Biggest Obama Scandal? He Knows That Turkey Is Buying Oil From ISIS And He Is Doing Nothing To Stop It“.

Previously, the Russians had promised not to commit ground forces in Syria, but now that appears to be changing.

According to Debka, the Russians have already deployed three battalions of 2S19 Msta-S self-propelled howitzers at this point…

First, a body of three battalions of 2S19 Msta-S self-propelled howitzers was deployed at Khmeimin and has already started pounding rebel lines and command centers in the area. This heavy artillery system, capable of firing 152mm bombs at a rapid pace, is a veteran of Russia’s former campaigns against Islamic terrorist groups, especially in the Russian war against Islamic rebels in Chechnya in the 1990s.

In addition to the 2S19 Msta-S self-propelled howitzers, the Russians have also brought in TOS-1 220mm multiple rocket launchers

Another heavy weapons system that Russia brought to Syria in recent days is the TOS-1 220mm multiple rocket launcher. This system, which is mounted on the chassis of a T-72 tank, has been deployed near the embattled Syrian cities of Hama and Homs.

With each passing day, we seem to be inching ever closer to the start of World War III.

And it is important to keep in mind that if war does break out, Turkey is a member of NATO, and so the U.S. would be obligated by treaty to help defend the Turks.

So let’s keep a close eye on what is happening in the Middle East, because it could end up having tremendous implications for all of us.

  • rob

    And the beat goes on….NO ECONOMIC COLLAPSE .

    • RTL89

      You’re fooling yourself if you think it isn’t right around the corner. I think you’re too preoccupied waiting for the actual collapse, and not paying enough attention to what it’s masquerading as: WW3. While people are arguing about the dates and timing of this, other things are going on behind the scenes. This will all culminate into either an inevitable war, or an inevitable resource crisis via currency collapse… both of which are equally catastrophic to all life on this planet.

      • rob

        Ita Been around the corner for years

        • RTL89

          Here’s the deal: they either stop printing money and we immediately suffer a crisis worse than 2008 (which we cannot afford to have!) and it will lead us to a resource crisis…. OR…. we keep printing until we can’t anymore and then war results. Both of these are horrible situations, but we are about to face one of these two scenarios.. and it’s coming SOON. The Fed is trapped. We are trapped. You can disagree with me all you want to, but it is what it is.

          • Jerry C

            Of course, the third alternative is that TPTB will create a new system (electronic) and all debt will be forgiven but you’ll have to received their electronic Mark to participate. The sad part is that most of the world would love it.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            I will not take the MARK……..I know what it means…..DO YOU ?

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Mr RTL89 that is the accurate description of The USA 2015 and all by design to bring in NWO

      • Steeve Girard

        It has become World War III the day they vowed to fight terrorism everywhere, which was well before 9-11-2001. Because that brought them to Kuwait, Afghanistan, Irak, Syria, Persian Gulf. Indirectly caused conflicts in Yemen, Egypt, Libya and other countries which does not come to my mind. The first president that was in office at the origin of this conflict was George Bush Senior. Let’s hope the Electoral College will not be dumb enough to bring Jeb Bush to the presidency.

    • GSOB

      Just a stifling of our economy, due to more government intrusion. Climate change legislation from the global elite is more a threat. Their solutions only leads to theft. I mean, increased taxes. It does itself in because its not about balanced books.
      The Nanny gets so fat that she rolls over & kills the state. The people have to start over again.
      There are a bunch of lost souls in ISIS I bet.

      • Guest

        Yeah, and there are many lost souls in “reformed” churches.

    • Craig C

      Hmm, I think I remember Michael stating that November would be when a significant economic downturn would occur. Maybe he meant next November.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        date setting is tuff

  • CASTIEL

    I think its inevitable…..but even when that war starts most people will keep their eyes closed…..i think tv shows facebooks greed naivity and stupidity made what people are today….idiot sheeps….what will happen to those sheeps when the shepherd falls down? for example whats in the head of most people? they think about the beginging of ww3 ? of course not….they think about how much they will spend in Christmas for example…..maybe Santa Claus give them a present that they will never forget :)

    • Watchman

      What do you think all those video games that show world war 3 are for? It’s mental conditioning and preparation. Just look at Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 2, Modern Warfare 3, Battlefield 4, etc…. Even movies such as Red Dawn 2013 are the same as well.

      • CASTIEL

        those are just to make money….not even in recruit we are prepared to war……they obly us make the bed and the beard everyday…..beacuse you must be well clean when the enemy bomb you with mortars :)…..and then i just take a few shots before going to war but i made a million push ups …….they even didnt give us real grenades to train properly….

  • http://www.mindbodygreen.com Kim

    Is any of this ISIS oil-selling scheme to Turkey in the mainstream media yet?

    • Bad Kitty Cat

      I see the odd article in “Buisness Insider”. (I try to get my news from multiple sources.). Check out BBC; they are pretty good sometimes.

    • Gay Veteran

      ROFLOL, the corporate media is the propaganda arm of the government

      • http://www.mindbodygreen.com Kim

        You are right. This confirms it once and for all.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        Yes you are correct………………….

  • Alwaystomorrow

    The Economic Collapse Blog Has Issued “A RED ALERT For The Last Six Months Of 2015″.

    Published 6/25/2015.

    30 days until 12/31/2015.

    Lets do a count down until the end of 2015 and see just what happens.

    ——————————————————————————

    By Michael S, on July 31st, 2015.

    “And I kind of appreciate the countdown. It reminds people of my warning, and perhaps it will give some readers a renewed sense of urgency.”

  • GSOB

    Don’t fall for it.
    Its the other way around.

  • Cyber Revengeance

    don’t worry.
    Russia will not start a war with Turkey

    • alan

      Just watch for a lot of unrelated things happen to Turkey.

    • http://www.coroflot.com/joelpeeters/portfolio Joel Peeters

      Agree with you. Eventually a small skirmish just of one or the other to show its muscles but nothing of real significance there. Especially now that China is involved as well (they are low profile but they are there)

      NATO with all their ‘big open mouth’ don’t have the fire power, neither the will, to get involved with two massive Nuclear power with a lot of interest in the region and able to raise an army of more than 100,000,000 people if they want to, with weapons now matching the technology of the West…

      My bet, I may be absolutely wrong here I agree, but my bet is that NATO authorities and Officials will just downplay it a maximum, then shut it up. Today’s NATO it is big mouth, small balls…

      Russia, however, is strong mouth and big balls… Never awake the Russian Bear… and even less the Chinese Dragon, that’s quite an explosive cocktail in the making…

  • Steeve Girard

    The truth is that Turkey has been walking on eggs since the beginning of the conflict. They are so afraid of having war there, that they just say yes to their NATO allies, and yes to the ISIS oil. But Russia, they owe nothing to them, so they can afford to say no, and blow them off the sky. But I definitely think it’s a bad choice to not allow Russia.

  • K

    I assume, due to the size of the military equipment,that Russia is sending in. They are most likely using ships.. For a Country of their size.Turkey has a sizable, submarine force. If you will shoot down a plane, will you sink a ship? Sinking ships, has started wars before.

  • merrileerj

    Russia is right. Turkey is evil evil evil…..

    • Steeve Girard

      Nope… Turkey is just headlessly afraid.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        I do see a chance of war, not particularly WWIII, but merrillrj’s comment is substandard.

        • Steeve Girard

          Dude we are in WWIII, it was declared by George Bush Senior.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Dudette.. and no

        • merrileerj

          You saying my comments are substandard just shows I am on the right track. Thank you!!!!! and God Bless you!!!!!!

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            No, it just shows that your comment is substandard.

    • Mike Smithy

      At this juncture, I do believe that Russia is on the right side of history and that the west and it’s NATO allies are doing the Devils work. It will be interesting to see if China decides to back Russia or decide to straddle the fence.

      • Christoph Weise

        It is deeply routed in human nature to distinguish between good and evil but it does not help in politics. Unfortunately the zest to topple regimes has created great instability and wars in a number of countries recently “visited” by US or targeted by CIA and the vacuum has been filled by organisations such as the Taliban, Al Queda and ISIS. The errors and mistakes made in an attempt to push these forces back are enormous and have the potential to unleash another great war. Russia has effectively already established a no-fly zone by deploying its advanced ground to air missile defence system which can simultaneously engage up to 300 flying objects in a 400km radius. NATO is eager to participate in the escalation and we are now on the brink of an armed conflict between NATO and Russia / Iran. Given all the stupidity of our political leaders the goal of ISIS (DAESH) to destroy the western civilisation does not seem to be entirely unrealistic.

        • Gay Veteran

          “…Given all the stupidity of our political leaders the goal of ISIS (DAESH) to destroy the western civilisation does not seem to be entirely unrealistic.”

          the U.S. created ISIS, directly or indirectly (through our war of aggression against Iraq and Libya)

          • awb22

            It’s more like the Saudis did, but grind whichever side of the ax you like.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh, I certainly believe the Saudis and others were involved

          • awb22

            make up your mind. oh, I forgot, you’re a reprobate, never mind.

          • Gay Veteran

            always with the ad hominem attacks, so sad you are so intellectually feeble

  • Midwest Values

    Erdogan is a war criminal for shooting down the Russian Plane this week. Putin has every right to clip his wings.

  • max gon

    Michael you are right again. If Obama is not removed from office soon, humanity days are numbered. ErDOGan is a Washington puppet, he is just receiving orders from his master.

    • Lee Harvey

      Max, you think Obama decides anything ?
      You are truly naïve.

      • Jerry C

        Says Clueless. You. Have. No. Idea.

  • VigilanteCaregiver

    Excellent article, Mike!

    If it comes to WWIII I’m not going. Got an exemption already (being a caregiver and all). No draft or induction.

    Enjoy your war, Leftists.

    • plextt

      Both righty tighty and lefty lucey are on the same team!

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        You Got It………………….

    • Gay Veteran

      of course you have an exemption
      and get a clue, the other proponents for war are the neo-cons!
      democrats = republicans

  • Jazz

    War must be good for the markets. Futures are up quite a bit. Bulls on parade!

    • Mike Smithy

      Just imagine all of the broken windows WW3 will create. Bullish.

      • alan

        LOL!

      • Jazz

        Well the markets are refusing to go down. I’m not complaining. I said the August lows would be the best buying opportunity for a while. Markets look solid and ready to create fresh new highs!

        • Watchman

          Hey Zazz what do the markets have to do with this article? Absolutely nothing other than you just troll.

    • Watchman

      Zazz you are still here. I thought your handlers gave you another assignment to troll? Looks like you have to work over-time on this website.

    • MaxRockatansky33

      Bulls on parade. In Spain. Matador is waiting.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      markets go up middle class go down

  • J B

    Wait Wait Wait, but isn’t Turkey an Ally of the USA.
    Well more of an ally than not an ally of USA, more like an Israeli’s best friend is a Palestinian next door.

  • Im4truth4all

    Let the Russians clean up the mess. Goodby turkey.

  • You Can Not Block Me

    The Economic Collapse Blog Has Issued “A RED ALERT For The Last Six Months Of 2015″.

    Published 6/25/2015.

    30 days until 12/31/2015.

    Lets do a count down until the end of 2015 and see just what happens.

    ——————————————————————————

    By Michael S, on July 31st, 2015.

    “And I kind of appreciate the countdown. It reminds people of my warning, and perhaps it will give some readers a renewed sense of urgency.”orry Mike. I have ways around your blocks. :-)

    • Jazz

      The market futures up big. Looks like we may see new highs over the next week or two. Lots of economic data being released to take us to new highs. Ride the bull train to the top!

      • Watchman

        The only bull train you are riding Zazz is the same angry bull that will throw you up in the air and then trample you. Enjoy the ride.

      • MaxRockatansky33

        Polly wants a cracker?

    • Watchman

      That’s just hilarious Alwaystrolling returns under “You Can Not Block Me”. Just wait and see just how fast you will be blocked and have your comments deleted you retarded troll.

    • chicken little

      hey all….is it safe to come out of my bunker yet …is the schmiteh over or did I take this guy and alex jones to literal and go red alert to early???

      • Watchman

        You must be Alwaystrolling’s cousin or one of these trolls relatives. Nice to see another moronic and idiotic troll such as yourself. Now crawl back to your troll lair.

        • cousin chicken

          I mean the schmiteh with a bloodmoon… I swore I saw the clouds part and jesus floating down for his chosen….

        • cousin chicken

          ill tell ya… all these end of times events..leave you hungry down in the bunker…..another” red alert” this week and im gonna have to call alex for some more dehydrated meals and some super male pecker vitality juice….

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          Watchdog, go take a flea dip

          • Watchman

            You first but then again nobody was talking to you morbidly obese piece of meat. Enjoy your ban as well troll.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Watchdog.. get a life you chair-bound social drain.

          • Watchman

            I am shocked it took you that long to come up with a comeback. It’s too bad it’s too short and too little to be of any use. Enjoy your ban and don’t forget to roll out of your bed.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        It’s a shame there’s no tinfoil hats marketed on the site, isn’t it?

        • hungry chicken

          yes sunny…wont be long now and a tinfoil hat to protect from radio active brain waves of death that wall st. sends out from a top the buildings coincide with a full bloodmoon with a schmiteh from the seventh house of the rising sun……and its all over buddy…all she wrote..

          • Steeve Girard

            Getting the press ready… put the word “dunce” on carton, making cone hats out of them, and sending them around the worlds as the new currency.

        • Richard O. Mann

          If there was a buck to be made, I would gladly sell them. After extensive research, I have found that all they do is make your head sweat.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            You might be surprised. Consider the audience. I wouldn’t mention about the sweat part.

      • K2

        Didnt you just read the article???!!! World war 3 is about to begin!!! I know i know t was supposed to begin when US sent ships to the spratleys, but it didnt.

        This time it will…for sure….go back into your bunker.

        Sorry michael, couldnt resist! :)

  • winnie the pooh

    The wild card in all this is “WHAT WILL CHINA AND N. KOREA DO” if push comes to shove. Will NATO truly stand behind Turkey if its proven that they are buying the oil from ISIS, and if the American people will stand behind TPTB at this time, or wait till the elections are over next year !!!!!!

    • Mike Smithy

      Yes, it will be interesting to see what China does. To your second point, there is no doubt that Turkey is purchasing the stolen crude oil from ISIS. Unfortunately, most Americans are ill informed and believe Turkey is only something they eat on Thanksgiving.

      • winnie the pooh

        Thank-you for your comments. I do not believe the American people will follow this administration, and after 14 years of war in that part of the world, it proves that we are “playing” at war and having our troops get killed for nothing at all. If it does esculates into a war with Nato troops involved Russia did not come to play.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        If our fellow Americans wud pay attention we might stand a chance……..

    • John Noyb

      Don’t think there will be elections next year – will be some sort of “national emergency” declared whereby elections will be suspended, martial law declared and the imposter-in-chief stays in office. Think about it.

      • winnie the pooh

        I agree! I believe that in a case where we do have another major “black swan” event like 9/11 rather than deploying troops into another nation then the American people would want the troops to be called back to America and we would seal our borders. The government would declare martial law then the military would rule the government rather than the government rule the military and total anarchy would be the norm.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Also well said……………..

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        Well said………cud be the play.

  • Illegal

    G20 leaders met in Antalya, Turkey, on 15-16 November 2015. This was the meeting where Obama propably told Erdogan it would be OK to shoot down a Russian plane. Obama wants an excuse to deploy NATO forces in Syria and block Russia from securing victory for Assad.

    Erdogan is a war profiteer who has dreams of being the leader of a new Ottoman Empire. He is being helped by Obama. US helicopter follows oil convoy and does not fire upon them. Gives 45 minute warning to drivers of oil trucks before they are bombed. Prohibits Kurds from sealing Syria/Turkey border. Makes a distinction between the various anti Assad rebels.

    The US needs to get its planes out of Turkey and end all aid to Turkey. The US public needs to stop being lead by the nose.

  • cal

    History does repeat itself. I believe 9/11 was the opening salvo of WWIII just like Japan’s invasion of Manchuria in 1931 was the opening campaign of WWII. Gradually that war spread to various locations just like 9/11 led to war in the Middle East which is spreading daily. The Syrian Civil War is analogous to the Spanish Civil War of 1936 the first preliminary campaign of WWII in Europe. I expect war just about everywhere in the eastern hemisphere, Of course the denouement is Armageddon.

    • tom

      The Fourth Turning rolls on…

    • df NJ

      Some things are just too crazy to make up. You could claim its some kind of anti-Semitic propaganda. But again, how can you make stuff up that is this outragious!

      google “Israeli Holiday Purim, children dress up as Twin Towers being hit by planes”

  • rat28

    Turkey and Saudi are the two biggest state sponsor for Sunni Islamic Terrorists.. It has been ongoing for more than 30 years.

    • df NJ

      Israeli has nothing but angels blessed by God never doing anything in domestic or foreign policy that might be considered immoral or unethical.

  • alan

    The $hit bag president of Turkey will fall ill and die in a year and no one will remember what all of this was about. Europe should start to unravel soon and likely NATO will be in a similar state. If there was a war with Russia no one may show up.

  • aliceinwonder

    ISIS is CIA created so yes, they are correct.

  • Mark Sivad

    I don’t think that NATO will come to the Turkey’s aid if push comes to shove.

    • Watchman

      So what happens to all the tactical nuclear weapons stored at incirlik air base then?

  • Albert Griggs

    Israel murdered several Turkish Citizens, and Erdogan did NOTHING. As a matter of fact, Erdogan the muslim grovels to Israel like a dog, so he can make SHEKELS selling ISIS oil to the Jews. .Oil that is extracted by KILLING MUSLIMS. Turkey is providing material support to the terrorist group ISIS. For NATO to defend that would make all of us accomplices to terrorism.
    This black market selling results in over 1 Million dollars per DAY flowing into ISIS to keep it equipped and supplied for its ongoing terrorist activities. Only a fool would think that all this is going on through Turkey to Israel, without many Turkish and Israeli officials having their hands out for money from the illegal oil sales. Put simply, Turkey and Israel ARE in business with ISIS.
    Turkey has increased weapons, ammunition and equipment shipments into Syria, according to Damascus, in exchange for oil and antiquities looted by ISIL terrorists. Meanwhile Moscow condemned Ankara for supporting “armed thugs” operating in Syria, saying that Turkey buys cheap oil from ISIL and supplies it with weapons.

    • df NJ

      Wars are waged to keep oil off the market so the price stays high on the world market. It’s never about getting access to oil. It’s about eliminating supply.

      • Albert Griggs

        yep … that is why gas is down to !.60 ……

  • df NJ

    Our government is run by Israelis with dual citizenship. What’s your point?

    • Albert Griggs

      What is good for Israel should be good for America. NO “dual citizen” allowed in government. Israel: Three dual-citizen MKs ordered to annul their foreign passports
      by Shahar Ilan – Haaretz – Feb18 2009
      The Central Elections Committee has ordered three Knesset members with dual citizenship to annul their foreign passports by next Tuesday’s swearing-in ceremony, or at least begin steps to cancel them.
      The three lawmakers are Yohanan Plesner of Kadima (who has Danish citizenship), Nitzan Horowitz of Meretz (a Polish citizen) and Yisrael Beiteinu’s Anastasia Michaeli, who holds a Russian passport. The Basic Law on the Knesset states that “a member of Knesset holding an additional citizenship that is not Israeli … will not take the oath of loyalty until he has done everything he can to relinquish it.” –
      Nobody can have loyalty to TWO Nations at the same time. SO nobody with “dual citizenship” should be allowed to hold ANY post in OUR government.

      • df NJ

        It should be a Constitutional Amendment!

  • CharlesH

    I’m somewhat amazed that Turkey hasn’t been turned into a big beautiful crystal ash tray by now. Putin is biding his time.

    • Watchman

      So if Putin launches even a tactical nuclear strike what do you suppose will happen to the tactical nuclear stock at Incirlik Air Base do you think that NATO would have any hesitation using it against Syria and Russia? You haven’t thought it through.

      • CharlesH

        Don’t assume you know what I thought. My original comment stands.

        • Watchman

          Your original comment is quite idiotic and has nothing of value. You are advocating the use of nuclear weapons even tactical against a country that is in NATO and has tactical nuclear weapons stored at Incirlik. What do you think happens when you lower the bar or allow the usage of tactical nuclear weapons? Have you thought that out or are you so bored you cannot respond accordingly.

          You sound like a brainwashed sheep and probably a Putin apologist.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        Not nuclear but ground and Turkey does not stand a chance.

        • Green tip

          It’s pronounced nu-cle-ur

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      They have NATO cover and the US is in NATO.

  • df NJ

    Any use of any nukes anywhere in the world and every government in every country will be toppled. There would be social upheaval beyond imagination. It will be like the Bolsheviks and the Romanov family times 1000. Governments will fall, the Rothschild’s will have to start paying taxes, Federal Reserves will be outlawed. A nuke going off anywhere in the world would be the absolute very last thing the people having wealth and privilege want to happen. So, I doubt it will happen. Too much at stake. Seven billion people are just way to unpredictable. It would be like yelling fire in theater. People will panic and the trampling will begin.

  • df NJ

    A very good video. I highly recommend it.

    google “metanoia films” too has some good documentaries on how bad our CIA has been over the years.

  • guest

    The real question is were the corrupt Turkish leaders buying the oil from the U.S. backed “good, moderate” terrorists or the bad terrorists?

  • Scoopie

    Interconnected with all of this, watch for something concerning Damascus.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Like being reduced to dust………who will do the reducing.

      • John Noyb

        Isaiah 17:1 – it’s coming.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Yes brother……………

          • John Noyb

            Check out JD Farag update from 11/29/15. I think you will find it VERY interesting.

      • Scoopie

        Good question. We who are aware of Isa. 17 figured Israel, but could be Turkey, or who knows.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          I thought that also……..but who knows now………….HE knows but HE is not talking.

  • chilller

    This evidence clearly puts the US and it’s allies in the difficult position of promoting terrorism on a global scale. Who will blink first?

  • Michael can you say PROXY

    The Economic Collapse Blog Has Issued “A RED ALERT For The Last Six Months Of 2015″.

    Published 6/25/2015.

    30 days until 12/31/2015.

    Lets do a count down until the end of 2015 and see just what happens.

    ——————————————————————————

    By Michael S, on July 31st, 2015.

    “And I kind of appreciate the countdown. It reminds people of my warning, and perhaps it will give some readers a renewed sense of urgency.”

    • Watchman

      Oh it’s like playing whack-a-mole with you Alwaystrolling. It’s too bad you never heard of a ban or a permanent ban. Don’t worry your proxies aren’t safe either and you are too stupid troll to properly understand.

      • watchman

        The Economic Collapse Blog Has Issued “A RED ALERT For The Last Six Months Of 2015″.

        Published 6/25/2015.

        30 days until 12/31/2015.

        Lets do a count down until the end of 2015 and see just what happens.

        ——————————————————————————

        By Michael S, on July 31st, 2015.

        “And I kind of appreciate the countdown. It reminds people of my warning, and perhaps it will give some readers a renewed sense of urgency.”

        • Watchman

          I am not surprised you would stoop to such a low level as to try and use my name. You are just a pathetic little troll with your expiry date that is coming up. Enjoy your ban.

          • Green tip

            Where is alwaystomorrow?! Did they ban him?! That’s some censoring, communist, anti liberty, Obama like Bull$hit if I have ever seen it!!!

          • Watchman

            Your ban is coming up too troll.

      • df NJ

        I like his post. If you are going to peddle doom you have to be right once in a while.

      • Green tip

        Funny, you couldn’t phrase a sentence correctly while attempting to call out another on their supposed stupidity. I see I found my daily dose of irony.

        • Watchman

          Funny you must share the same cubicle with the other trolls. So hows life at the troll farm Green-troll?

  • Richard O. Mann

    I keep remembering that open mike episode before Obama was reelected. He and the dude from Russia were talking on the down low, but his mike was on. ” Wait until I am reelected.” Just look where we have gone since then. It really makes you wonder.

    • df NJ

      Obama is a puppet nothing more. The US military is more controlled by Israel than Obama.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        I am not convinced that the military is controlled by Israel but Obama is a puppet.

  • df NJ

    If you are all so mad at the Arabs all we have to do is drop one daisy cutter bomb on the Mecca cube and none of the rag heads will get to Valhalla to collect their 70 raisins. People marching around a holy stone all wearing white rags signifying man’s equality under the eyes of God is obviously some kind of anti-capitalist communist BS. The commies must die!

    • Green tip

      I good sir nominate you for best post of the day. All in favor can I get a Hell Ya.

  • Raymond Chau

    I suspect behind the Turks is the US. Behind the US is the ISraeli. Behind the ISraeli is the Rothchild-Zionist gangsters!

    • Watchman

      Well there is a reason that the 2nd highest American military official was in Ankara during the shootdown.

      • jox

        What is the name of that military official?

    • jox

      I’m also convinced of that.

  • chris

    If Turkey is a ‘secret ally’ of ISIS, and that does indeed appear to be the case, you can bet that the US and UK and others are fully aware of this and have been for some time. The West has done ‘bugger all’ against ISIS before the Paris attacks and i would say that it has actively turned a blind eye to ISIS as long as ISIS had a chance of toppling the Assad government. With support from Turkey and Saudi Arabia ISIS has been getting funding and arms. Cutting off that support by the US putting pressure on these two ‘allies’ would have gone a long way towards making ISIS practically irrelevant but for some strange reason the US etc were reluctant to do that. I think we all know why. Unless the terrorist supporters in the West drop Turkey and Saudi Arabia WW111 is a real probability.

    • df NJ

      “allies” No such word in the Arabic language. Other than two Jews, getting two Arabs to agree on anything is impossible for all practical purposes!

  • Joltin Joe

    I predict NATO crumbles if Russia attacks Turkey, is anyone really going to back up those clowns that ‘started’ the fight?

    • Gay Veteran

      most of the European NATO countries are pretty busy with the massive waves of refugees

  • Jazz

    Another great day in the markets! Dow up 168. S&P up 22 points. Told ya it was heading to new highs. I doubt we see a war. Bulls want more juice!

    • Watchman

      You must be drinking too much of that “bull***” juice again Zazz. You are a complete failure in life now you can go back to dreaming about your master Obama and what a pitiful existence you both have.

      • Green tip

        He’s actually rather sharp when it comes to analyzing the markets… Paid government troll or not.

        • Watchman

          Rather sharp? Is that why you call yourself the “Green tip”? Hey do you and Zazz share the same cubicle or just work different shifts in your troll farm?

    • Kent Harris

      Currently, Turkey and Russia are in a Cold War now but the question is whether it will become a Hot War. If Turkey continues to pull this nonsense Putin will take action against Turkey for supporting ISIS. Namely because it is undercutting them as far as oil prices. Never underestimate your enemy.

    • Green tip

      Like I said Jazz I like you. But your unabashed oh most blind optimism makes me question your true intent. Sorry not trying to be rude but I see you practically daily speaking about the “bulls”. If I hadn’t already expressed a liking for you I might be inclined to think you were a paid government troll. By the way thanks for the good market advice you did give me.

  • Gay Veteran

    cut off the oil funds going to ISIS, seal the border so their supply lines are cut, the Russians are SERIOUS. we have seen peak ISIS

  • Gary Leaf

    Erdogan, Assad, Putin, Obama, Isis – all players in the same theatre. Assad could have have been eliminated long ago if someone really wanted him gone. We are being played, with Putin being the good cop and Obama / Turkey / Isis the bad cop.

    I say lets not bother picking sides in this theatre and instead obey the Laws of God as a matter of urgency. He is the only power-broker we can rely on to act in our interests. “Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?” Isaiah 2:22

    • John Noyb

      Exactly..

  • Steeve Girard

    It can succeed, but this success will have tanked heavy damage. making it as much handicap as the US dollar was before WWII.

  • Evil_shadow

    Do you really believe that PTB will give up and accept BRICS as new rulers? as far as it goes, its more likely that US would instigate new war rather than back down and loose world supremacy.

  • guest

    The fact that Turkey is aligned with isis is obvious. The same for obama.
    The only people who do not know that are those who will not accept it, or refuse to see it because they love the illusion of ‘normalcy’.
    Having said that, we also see that obama’s allies fill the halls of congress, on both sides of the aisle. Aided and abetted by their media and ‘donor class’.
    I don’t care how many articles and videos they scrub, I was there, I remember muslims celebrating 9/11 and W cautioned us not to lynch the b#$t@#ds.
    Trump 2016.

  • robert

    It’s a shame when an American sides with Russia. But let’s face it, we haven’t had a leader since Ronald Reagan. We have an Islamic lying terrorist, who wants to ruin our country and weaken our military. Who doesn’t respect the Constitution or the people it’s meant to protect. Doesn’t. Respect Christians or family values. Only thing Obummer cares for is a blood loving cult called Islam.

    • Gay Veteran

      and what is your opinion of George W. Bush?

      • awb22

        Each successive POTUS since and including Reagan have been progressively worse, with Obama only being the most recent. Carter was the last best POTUS this country had, a peanut farmer from Georgia, and a christian, imagine that.

  • robert

    To be sure , China, Cuba, N Vietnamese, Syria, Iran Will be with Russia. If it is like that, America better sit this one out.

  • K2

    Even brics are not aiming for a new common currency.

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  • thechaosdjinn

    Russia releases video evidence of Turkey’s complicity this morning. Just a matter of time now…

  • robert

    Didn’t much care for how he handled things either. But I’ll take him over Obummer or Clinton

  • tacoma

    And so, after years of BS news and propaganda from NATO countries led by U.S., the truth finally came out.

    THE ISLAMIC STATE IS REALLY TURKEY OPERATIONALLY & FINANCIALLY.
    THE ISLAMIC STATE IS REALLY THE U.S. STRATEGICALLY.

    By extension, NATO is complicit in the creation, arming, financing, and even supporting so-called IS terrorism. On Syria, with spillover to itself! All that military actions in Syria and northern Iraq is only to look like they are bombing IS. But IS not only have not been destroyed after 4 full years of bombing, it has prospered.

    When Russia entered Syria and started to do some real fight on IS, the truth came out. It takes Russia to expose the lies about IS and U.S.-Turkey complicity.

    Americans who believe Obama have got to be the most stupid.
    Americans who believed GW have proven to be the most stupid.

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