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26 Incredible Facts About The Economy That Every American Should Know For The Trump-Clinton Debate

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donald-trump-hillary-clinton-debate-photo-by-vectoropenstockAre you ready for the most anticipated presidential debate in decades?  It is being projected that Monday’s debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton could potentially break the all-time record of 80 million viewers that watched Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter debate back in 1980.  Many Americans probably hope to see some personal fireworks between the two nominees, but the two candidates have both expressed a desire to focus on substantive issues.  There will likely be quite a few questions about the economy, and without a doubt this is an area where Trump and Clinton have some very sharp differences.  The mainstream media would have us believe that the U.S. economy is in pretty good shape, and if that was true that would seem to favor Clinton.  But is it actually true?  The following are 26 incredible facts about the economy that every American should know for the Trump-Clinton debate…

#1 When Barack Obama entered the White House, the U.S. government was 10.6 trillion dollars in debt.  Today, the U.S. government is 19.5 trillion dollars in debt, and Obama still has several months to go until the end of his second term.  That means that an average of more than 1.1 trillion dollars a year will be added to the national debt during his presidency.  We are stealing a tremendous amount of consumption from the future to make the economy look much, much better than it otherwise would be, and we are systematically destroying the future in the process.

#2 As Obama prepares to leave office, the rate at which we are adding to the national debt is actually increasing.  During the fiscal year that is just ending, the U.S. government has added another 1.36 trillion dollars to the national debt.

#3 It isn’t just the federal government that is on a massive debt binge.  Total U.S. corporate debt has nearly doubled since the end of 2007.

#4 Default rates on U.S. corporate debt are the highest that they have been since the last financial crisis.

#5 Corporate profits have fallen for five quarters in a row, and it is being projected that it will be six in a row once the final numbers for the third quarter come in.

#6 During the month of August, commercial bankruptcy filings were up 29 percent compared to the same period a year ago.

#7 The rate of new business formation in the United States dropped dramatically during the last recession and has hovered at that new lower level ever since.

#8 The Wall Street Journal says that this is the weakest “economic recovery” since 1949.

#9 Barack Obama is on track to be the only president in all of U.S. history to never have a single year when the U.S. economy grew by at least 3 percent.

#10 In August, the Cass Freight Index dipped to the lowest level that we have seen for that month since 2010.  What this means is that the total amount of stuff being shipped around the country by air, by rail and by truck is really dropping, and this is a clear sign that real economic activity is slowing down in a major way.

#11 Capital expenditure growth has turned negative, and history has shown that this is almost always followed by a new recession.

#12 The percentage of Americans with a full-time job has been sitting at about 48 percent since 2010.  You have to go back to 1983 to find a time when full-time employment in this country was so low.

#13 The labor force participation rate peaked back in 1997 and has been steadily falling ever since.

#14 The “inactivity rate” for men in their prime working years is actually higher today than it was during the last recession.

#15 The United States has lost more than five million manufacturing jobs since the year 2000 even though our population has become much larger over that time frame.

#16 If you can believe it, the total number of government employees now outnumbers the total number of manufacturing employees in the United States by almost 10 million.

#17 One study found that median incomes have fallen in more than 80 percent of the major metropolitan areas in this country since the year 2000.

#18 According to the Social Security Administration, 51 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year.

#19 The rate of homeownership in the U.S. has fallen every single year while Barack Obama has been in the White House.

#20 Approximately one out of every five young adults are currently living with their parents.

#21 The auto loan debt bubble recently surpassed the one trillion dollar mark for the first time ever.

#22 Auto loan delinquencies are at the highest level that we have seen since the last recession.

#23 In 1971, 61 percent of all Americans were considered to be “middle class”, but now middle class Americans have actually become a minority in this nation.

#24 One recent survey discovered that 62 percent of all Americans have less than $1,000 in savings.

#25 According to the Federal Reserve, 47 percent of all Americans could not even pay an unexpected $400 emergency room bill without borrowing the money from somewhere or selling something.

#26 The number of New Yorkers sleeping in homeless shelters just set a brand new record high, and the number of families permanently living in homeless shelters is up a whopping 60 percent over the past five years.

Despite all of the facts that you just read, the truth is that there is one particular group of people that have been doing quite well during the Obama years.  I really like how Charles Hugh Smith made this point in one of his recent articles

The top 5% of households that dominate government, Corporate America, finance, the Deep State and the media have been doing extraordinarily well during the past eight years of stock market bubble (oops, I mean boom) and “recovery,” and so they report that the economy is doing splendidly because they’ve done splendidly.

By recklessly creating money out of thin air and pumping it into the financial markets, the Federal Reserve has greatly enriched the elite, but they have also dramatically increased the gap between the very wealthy and the rest of us.  Since he has been in the White House during this time, Barack Obama has gotten the credit for this temporary stock market bubble, and most of the elite love Obama anyway.

But in the process the stage has been set for the greatest economic and financial implosion in U.S. history, and the pain that is coming is going to affect every man, woman and child in this country.

During the debate, Trump and Clinton will talk a lot about tinkering with tax rates and regulations, but those measures are essentially going to be meaningless when compared to the massive economic tsunami that is coming.  The next president is going to inherit the biggest economic problems that this nation has ever faced, and it is going to take a miracle of Biblical proportions to turn the U.S. economy in the right direction.

 
  • aldownunder

    Trump is a guy who has made a career in the real world. He knows something about how an economy actually works. Yes, of course, he appears vulgar and ignorant. But that’s because he understands how the press actually works.

    ‘He has built a public persona to capture media attention. It was the only way an outsider like him could win the nomination. In private, he is a very different person. He is thoughtful and intelligent. At least, that is what I read.

    ‘Hillary is just like [French president] François Hollande and almost the entire political class of Europe. They are professionals at one thing only: getting in office and holding on to power.

    ‘They have no idea how the real world works. They’ve never had a job. Or a business. Or any real contact with the world most of us live in. So, they inevitably make a mess of whatever project they are involved in.

    ‘From one failed project to another…one unfulfilled promise to another one…one disaster to another.

    ‘Trump is different. He might actually succeed.’

    • watchmannonthewall

      Great points, but I doubt “they” will allow him to succed. If “they” did, it would reveal how irrevelent “they” are to the process. When the Ameirican public finally figures this out, if they ever do, it will likely be too late. Therefore, we can anticipate if Trump wins the presidency, it is over for the U.S.. If not, prepare to become more aware of your slavery.

      • JC Teecher

        ” …… but I doubt “they” will allow him to succed.”

        what if he is one of them?
        Just another bird with different colored feathers.

      • SnodtBlossom

        HILLARY will KICK TRUMP’S RUMP!!

        • GSOB

          Did not look that way to me.
          In fact, she was exposed and resorted to slandering and lying first.
          Then the nurturing family, yes we can work it out, nanny ideas and policies surfaced. Same old thing…..
          He did pleasantly well, simply put.
          He is better suited for the toughest job in the world.

        • Ivan_Rediskin

          The f//// she will!

      • Jerry C

        TPTB want Trump in the presidency when they collapse the economy.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      TRUMP FOR WHITEHOUSE !!

      HILLARY FOR JAILHOUSE !!

      • SnodtBlossom

        How much prior political experience does Trump have?
        NADA!!! ZIP!!!! ZILCH!!! ZERO!!!
        He talks the talk, but never walked the walk.
        But hey.. it’s only THE PRESIDENCY!
        Maybe next we’ll grab people off the street w/no medical training to do surgery!
        Neither did Ulysses Grant or Dwight Eisenhower have a prior politcal position, though both had a strong military background. Dwight being ” The Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in World War II”
        and Grant “Commanding General of the United States Army”
        How much military background does Trump have? NADA!!! ZIP!!!! ZILCH!!! ZERO!!!

        “no major U.S. company has filed for Chapter 11 more than Trump’s casino empire in the last 30 years.”
        He has filed four business bankruptcies. Maybe he thinks it’s just as easy to file bankruptcy w/the entire government and walk away.

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          cut copy paste and repeat 25 times

          • SnodtBlossom

            Actually, I have a script program

        • watchmannonthewall

          Trump did not bankrupt the U.S.

          People like Bill and Hillary did as well as the Bushes and Obama! LBJ started the entire U.S. bankruptcy process. Maybe career politicians are actually the problem. You think?

          Remember, the Constution did not provide for the people to vote for senators. An amendment changed the way senators were selected. The Constution stated the govenors of the states appointed them. Change the govenor and the senators changed also! No vote required on senators.

          Maybe the founding fathers were smarter than we, or at least our grandparents, are/were! Maybe liminting the number of career politians in Congress was actually wiser than our current process! Let’s recind the amendment and limit the influence the wealthy have on the process! We can always recall a govenor easier than recalling a senator or president.

          • SnodtBlossom

            you mean .. not yet

          • watchmannonthewall

            Are you saying Trump hasn’t bankrupted the U.S. …yet?

            If so, tell me how we are going to pay $19.5 Trillion to creditors, not counting the tens of trillions in unrecorded liabilities. We have run a positive cash flow for the government just 1-2 times since the 1960’s.

            I can remember when France didn’t want U.S. dollars, signs in the windows of businesses there, and Jimmy Carter arranged for the Swiss to provide the largest line of credit to the U.S. any nation had ever provided under his governance. It was a headline in the newspapers. Do you think they would ever tell us what they are doing today?

            FYI- This nation is long past bankrupt and TPTB are well under way to setting in place the next system. I doubt that even if Hillary was elected they wouldn’t have it in place before the end of her 1st term. Maybe faster under Trump, but the outcome will be the same!

          • Priszilla

            You are right. Everybody should get the chance to bankrupt the country. But didn’t trump already bankrupt his business once?
            Next please.

        • illary

          think about that for just a second. how in the hell does some one get experience if they never get the chance to do it or been in the process of it . just because he does not hold a office in politics for any amount of time does not mean he will be a failure you are already setting him for failure and most of the presidents have been failures they are not perfect nor are they gods most like to think they are. i could care less or even worry about his business BS makes no difference you want to know why because you and I do not know the future of DT. what this place needs now is NON PC BS being read from a teleprompter , he talks from the hip which shows a lot more courage!

          • SnodtBlossom

            Trump has never held a public service or military job in his life. Inexperience people get elected to lesser offices all the time.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            like community organizers

          • SnodtBlossom

            Just cuz Trump made money jizzin the Stock market w/his Golden Parachutes, doesn’t mean he’s a good leader!

          • BS1986

            Hillary has never been in the military AND ALL of her middle east policies have FAILED.

          • SnodtBlossom

            Michael must be on vacay… Mighty quiet week for him

          • BS1986

            No hes just watching quietly and laughing at you.

        • BS1986

          TRUMP is popular BECAUSE he is not a politician…….

    • df NJ

      Relax, don’t worry, Trump will not succeed. We do not have a dictatorship. Congress will make sure nothing will ever change.

      • Jack Frost

        You mean like when they created Obamacare a few years ago. No change there pretty much, huh?

        • Do you agree that healthcare is a universal need?

          • Raymond Chow

            No, it’s personal reponsibility.

          • You know that you pay the health care costs of the right now, at a very inflated rate, yes?

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            except when you’re raped, assaulted or murdered I know I KNOW carry a gun

          • alan

            Still a personal responsibility.

          • SnodtBlossom

            shizhead is in Ma

          • South Texas

            It is a need, but who will you enslave to make it ‘free’? Would you do your job for free on a regular basis or reduced pay? I’m doubtful.

          • It’s an investment in the greater good. You will pay for the health care of the poor, one way or another. The most expensive way is the system we have. The poor wait until their health problems are catastrophic (and expensive) and then they use the medical system. They then ignore the bills because they can’t afford them. The end result is higher prices for everyone.

            OR we can acknowledge that healthcare is a universal need, and pay a far cheaper rate. Everyone gets the preventative care that they need.

          • South Texas

            The system is expensive because of extensive government interference over the last 50 years. Go learn some economics first. Obamacare destroyed a lot of people who were retired and happy with their employee sponsored plans. You don’t want a government run health system. And to say people would be dying in the streets is ludicrous.

            So when you will be working on that medical degree so you can work for free?

          • GSOB

            Death is a universal requirement. Without it, there is no resurrection.

          • Jerry C

            Need?! Who defines need? That, sir, is the million dollar question; of which, you’re answer is ridiculous because everyone believes his answer is best, for himself.

          • usathoughts

            The Medical Industry is 1/6 of the economy. Running the numbers shows it takes 3 NET tax payers to support 4 people using the health care system in addition to their own family.

            This alone is responsible for most of our lower living standards. It cannot be otherwise!

          • Vivian

            Not the model that is the so called affordable care act.

          • I agree. The insurance companies have already shown us why a free market solution will never work. They will always put the profit motive ahead of patient needs.

            We need an impartial, government-run single payer system.

          • Vivian

            We should go back to the system where we don’t have to pay for maternity care and other coverages which are not appropriate for us, individually.

          • Jerry C

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…HA!

          • GSOB

            imagined need

          • Really, now. You’ve never been sick, and no one in your church has gotten sick or been hospitalized?

          • GSOB

            No cure for God’s judgment except repentance and faith in Christ to obedience.
            No cure for the common cold.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        TRUMP FOR WHITEHOUSE !!

        HILLARY FOR THE JAILHOUSE !!

        • SnodtBlossom

          KICK TRUMP’S RUMP! KICK TRUMP’S RUMP!

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            her tiny legs can’t reach that far, she’ll need a ladder

    • aliceinwonder

      He requires a fresh Congress to succeed.

      • Chimera Gothic

        Actually aliceinwonder, he does not. If he steps into the de jure Presidential office, the corporate congress can do didley squat to stop him.

    • trump has bankrupted his companies FOUR times so he is OK to work with a bankrupt nation and a realty comedian host like reagan who started the ball rolling for monetary decline into valueless numbers
      clinton has been fined by the FBI a few times caught with her hand in the public purse and filled her own purse (foundation)
      so its
      A – criminal clinton
      B – talent show trump

      • Raymond Chow

        Is Trump corporation still in business? Are those Trump towers I see in NY, CHICAGO, LAS VEGAS, etc.. What have you contributed to the economy if you’re such a critique of Trump business? What has Hillary done to contribute to the economy? Has she provided jobs to the people and paid wages from her own pocket? Welfare cases like you has no business voting, so phuuck off.

        • JF

          Trump created jobs without even winning the election. Look at all those paid for protestors against Trump.

    • Trump’s business practices don’t translate to government. He can’t declare bankruptcy; that would destroy the world economy. He can’t renegotiate our debt, and he can’t cheat people out of their money. Government is expected to be rock solid when it comes to debt repayment.

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        they both SUCK, time for a total political system re-boot

      • Raymond Chow

        We are already bankrupt…What are you talking about. All Trump want to do is to improve the economy and alleviate the debt and perhaps in a long term we can recover. So what do you want to do? Continue with the spending binge and loss of manufacturing and production in this country?

      • South Texas

        I’m sure we can simply expunge the portion owned by the Federal Reserve.

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          ahem, that would be about 98%

      • GSOB

        ROFL

      • Peter

        Yes he can declare bankruptcy, and it might be the answer, America needs.

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          actually we have been bankrupt for some time now , but politically we love spending more than we take in , fire up those printing presses Janet

      • Jerry C

        You. Assume. Too. Much. Like the debt the Federal Reserve has printed, out of thin air & our corrupt politicians fraudulently spent without one penny benefiting the common American taxpayer, is our debt to own. Trump should declare a Jubilee Year nullifying all debts and move forward. Anyone accepting debt-based paper “money” without tangible collateral is on record as a fool.

      • alan

        looks like we’re going to be in for a show!
        I think Trump is the only person that has any chance of doing anything. However, my feeling is the Titanic is going down regardless.

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      and even when she tried she failed remember Whitewater, the only way the Clintons succeed financially is through political blackmail and selling influence

    • FWIW

      making the rich richer isn’t going to help most of us

      • GSOB

        There is nothing wrong about that. Your envy is the problem.

    • piccadillybabe

      Live in a state where our governor (elected 2 terms) was a successful businessman first and politician second. He’s a little rough around the edges but he understands business and calls it as he sees it. The state budget ended up with $93 million in surplus this year! We need someone in Washington who also understands business and can turn our $19.3 trillion deficit around. Trump with all his business experience would be a better choice. The democrats are taking America in the wrong direction. Can’t imagine what the debt would look like with Clinton in office but it sure as heck will not be going down.

  • Wizard of Aus

    Let’s hope that Trump reads the Economic Collapse.

    • df NJ

      I think Trump genuinely wants to make this country great again with good paying jobs. But the Congress is owned by the international corporations certainly would not allow it to happen.

      • robert

        Out of curiosity, during what time do you think America was great? Serious question. What did “great” look like in your opinion?

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          before Leif Erickson landed here

  • df NJ

    It’s a question of values. What is wrong with the economy? Nothing. Wealth inequality is at all time highs. The CEOs are doing great. Government is so small you can drown it in a bathtub. What more do you want?

    I find it funny that all the anti-communist Republicans are now worried about public polices aimed at wealth inequality. It’s like inside each Republican is a Democrat trying to burst out. If you truly are a Republican then there’s nothing wrong with this country. The CEOs are doing fine and you should be very happy.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      There are now 12 million more people in government work(federal state) than manufacturing.

      • socalbeachdude

        The US is still the second largest manufacturing economy in the world, but manufacturing stuff is certainly not what makes for sound economies and typically involves menial jobs which are increasing being outsourced and replaced by robots and is essentially an industry of the past.

    • socalbeachdude

      The US economy is a CATASTROPHIC DISASTER because of VAST DEBT which now exceeds $64 TRILLION in the aggregate in the US. What on earth is so difficult for you to comprehend about that?

      Government is the biggest it has ever been in the history of the US and accounts for about 25% of the US economy and is running up deficits (increases in the federal debt) of around $1.4 trillion a year which is why we now have a federal debt of more than $19.5 trillion. And that is less than one-third of the total debt outstanding in the US.

      That has little to nothing to do with partisan Republican / Democrat matters, but has to do with the lack of SOUND ACCOUNTING AND ECONOMIC PRINCIPLES IN THE USA which is a fully BIPARTISAN ENDEAVOR which has gone out of control over the past 40 years at the federal, state, corporate, and personal levels.

  • df NJ

    What I find amazing about this country is how irrelevant religion has become. We have so many corrupt politicians and institutionalized corruption. We have no morals. We have no so sins. This country has really become like an Eastern European country. We have all the corrupt bureaucrats and government workers fleecing the people but none of the socialist benefits the Europeans enjoy. We pay HUGE money into healthcare with pour quality service by privatized company’s who’s primary focus is cutting costs and making the most profit at all costs.

    Voting is meaningless.

    Besides, after the Citizen’s United ruling the Federal Reserve can print any amount of money necessary to make sure only candidates favorable to the Federal Reserve policies ever get elected. With the power of the money’s printing press, the system cannot possibly be more rigged than currently is rigged.

    • Nick Reynolds

      Someone please explain to me how religion equates to morality. I spent my formative years as a Christian and it did not steer me toward morality. If anything, I could do immoral things, then ask God/Jesus for forgiveness. My life is so much moral now that I have chucked the religious paradigm for the morality that was inherent at birth. I feel very comfortable being a agnostic, with a sprinkling of Buddhism. I do not believe Buddhism is a religion as Buddha was a man, not an invisible deity.
      p.s. I think along the lines that whoever gets “selected”, the day after they mutter the words about upholding, protecting, and defending etc., they are taken to the WH basement, where a handful of old white guys have the lights dimmed, they show the few second Zapruda clip where Kennedys head explodes, turn to the new Puppet, ask if he has any questions, and he replies, “I am ready for my briefing”.

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        that forgiveness routine only appears to delude yourself in a confession booth, repent and stay repented is the only answer

        • GSOB

          Psalm 37:23-24

      • JC Teecher

        You have the freewill to sail your ship on a sea of hopelessness with Buddha. Buddha may give you a calm spirit as you sail, but Buddha has not shed his blood for “taking away” of your sins.
        So if you die with Buddha on your ship of fools, every sin you committed will be documented in your Book of Life. Your Creator will read your sins aloud on Judgment Day.
        Where will your Buddha be on that day?

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          Buddha believes in life as the script for the movie Groundhogs Day, take a spin on the karma wheel woopee!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • GSOB

        Nick
        Reynolds

        “Someone
        please explain to me how religion equates to morality.”

        Morality: principles concerning the distinction between
        right and wrong or good and bad behavior

        Job 28:28 & 2
        Corinthins 1:12

        “I spent
        my formative years as a Christian and it did not steer me toward morality.”

        It is possible for a man to continue under the power of sin,
        yet to put on a form of godliness.

        Jeremiah 9:4-6; Job 17:12; Matthew 23:15; Jude 1:19

        “If anything, I could do immoral
        things, then ask God/Jesus for forgiveness.”

        Moral sense theory typically holds that distinctions between morality
        and immorality are discovered by emotional responses to experience.

        “My life
        is so much moral now that I have chucked the religious paradigm for the
        morality that was inherent at birth.”

        Romans 5:20-21

        “I feel
        very comfortable being a agnostic, with a sprinkling of Buddhism.”

        Agonostic: a person who believes that nothing is known
        or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond
        material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

        “I do not believe Buddhism is a religion as
        Buddha was a man, not an invisible deity.”

        1 Timothy
        1:16-17

        John 3:5-7

        “p.s. I think along the lines that whoever gets “selected”, the day
        after they mutter the words about upholding, protecting, and defending etc.,
        they are taken to the WH basement, where a handful of old white guys have the
        lights dimmed, they show the few second Zapruda clip where Kennedys head
        explodes, turn to the new Puppet, ask if he has any questions, and he replies,
        “I am ready for my briefing”.”

        Romans 1:28

      • robert

        RELIGION and true Christianity are not the same item. True christianity would never have gone along with slavery in the southern states, at least the way it was practiced there. True christianity would not have gone along with crushing the American Indians almost out of existence. True christianity would not have cooperated with the total abuse of Japanese-American citizens at the outbreak of WWII. There is much deception and misunderstanding of what Bible Christianity really is. Without bogging down in denominational arguments, I have always been convinced there was little or nothing christian about the crusades but the usual quest for power and fortune. There is a lot of “god” talk and not a whole lot of “god” walk. The Bible is specific about deception and especially the self-deceived type.

        This business of connecting christianity with patriotism has resulted in some bizarre stuff. I recall a pastor who said he would like to remove the flag from front of the sanctuary but if he did he would be the second item removed.

        American christianity is in trouble. It has abandoned sound doctrine for silly nonsense some of which has resulted in giving ammunition to scorners and scoffers.

      • Jerry C

        Everything evil committed in the world can be traced back to breaking one of the 10 Commandments. Your relative morality falls apart when someone else has a different view of “morality”.

    • watchmannonthewall

      This is the outcome of a nation that did not care about the scandals in the White House under the Clinton regime but only about whether the economy was continuing to allow them to live the “good life”. We chose the dollar over morality and it has been downhill ever since. No man can serve two masters.

      People think discipline comes immediately, if one does wrong, but that is clearly not the case. There has been time given, as well as calls, to turn back to righteous living but we have refused and gone farther astray.

      It is all in David Wilkerson’s book, written in 1997, named, “Last Call for America: The Coming Financial Holocaust”.

      It is ironic that we are even thinking of electing another Clinton to the White House! Perhaps God is giving us chance to right the previous wrong, or, more likely, putting it in our faces for past sins. Sadly, we are completly unaware of the poetic, measure for measure, justice being dumped upon us.

      • GSOB

        There is a big difference between discipline and punishment. The righteous get disciplined. The wicked get punished.

      • socalbeachdude

        Obviously, the US economy WILL HAVE TO SHRINK and a significant amount of bad debt will have to be written down and off, but so what? That is just part of all NORMAL ECONOMIC CYCLES which are replete with booms and busts.

        • watchmannonthewall

          In the 6 years since the Greek fiasco started, I have not yet seen any debt being written down. imo this was/is a trail run of what is coming to much of the world.
          When TPTB decide no debt will be written down, it isn’t; so I would not bank on the debt of the U.S being written down either. U.S. influence is waning and much of the world is not happy with the privilaged position the U.S. has enjoyed for decades. We have now learned this was deliberately planned back in the 1940’s and adjustments have been made over the years since to maintain and then share, somewhat, that influence..
          Things have begun moving out of U.S control and the recent events at the G20 meeting in China are quite significant in evidencing that fact. We are transitioning to a different monetary system and the U.S. will not be calling the shots in it. It may not even have much of a say in the new system if Russia, China and other developing nations so decide. Weclome to the coming brave new world.
          If you are thinking all things will continue as they have, I am not in agreement with you. Such a position ignores history. Nations rise and fall.

          • socalbeachdude

            The issues in Greece over finances having been going on for the past 2000 YEARS with Greece being the first country in the world to ever default on government debt and they have done so about 8 times during that period including about 6 times over the past 200 years. Their defaults in 2011 were to be expected based on a simple review of their finally profligate and grossly irresponsible history.

            Your use of the vague and meaningless term “TPTB” (The Powers That Be) has no meaning whatsoever and there are very clear STRUCTURAL RULES IN THE EU AND EZ governing finances of countries as well as the specific agencies with the duty and authority to deal with those matters including the ECB and respective individual central banks.

            A huge amount of Greek debt was WRITTEN DOWN AND OFF in the recent restructurings at an enormous cost to the bondholders who are the ones that hold that debt, contrary to your erroneous assertions that no debt was written down or off.

            As to the US dollar, the use of the US dollar is NOT DIMINISHED AT ALL and the US dollar is now MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER in the global economy.

            The US dollar has been managed SUPERBLY and the two currencies which have been most EGREGIOUSLY MISMANAGED are the Japanese yen and the Chinese reniminbi (RMB / yuan) with the renminbi taking the prize as the most egregiously mismanaged currency the world has ever seen.

            The US dollar is right around 95 on the DXY and will continue rising and will like reach at least 120 on the DXY and could go a high as 164 and will simply keep rising for a multitude of reasons. The US dollar is used in 83% of all global transactions and accounts for 63% of all global currency reserves and there is no other currency that can ever challenger the US dollar in the foreseeable future.

            AEP: Dollar hegemony endures as share of global transactions keeps rising

            The US dollar is tightening its grip on the global financial system at the expense of the euro, entrenching American hegemony and rendering the US Federal Reserve more powerful than at any time in history.

            Newly-released data from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) show that the dollar’s share of the $5.1 trillion in foreign exchange trades each day has continued rising to 87.6pc of all transactions.

            It is the latest evidence confirming the extraordinary resilience of the dollar-based international order, confounding expectations of US financial decline a decade ago.

            Roughly 60pc of the global economy is either in the dollar zone or closely tied to it through currency pegs or ‘dirty floats’, and the level of debt issued in dollars outside US jurisdiction has soared to $9 trillion.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/01/dollar-hegemony-endures-as-share-of-global-transactions-keeps-ri/

          • watchmannonthewall

            I stand by my comments.
            There are well established programs that can change much of what you have to say about the dollar nearly overnight.

            While I hesitate to set dates, I don’t see how the U.S. will economically look anything like it does today in 4-5 years and psossible well before then. Too much antagonism towards Russia and China. I doubt they will put up with it. And other nations, including allies/former allies, are looking for new suitors and aware of the loss of American influence/power.

            The best way all that foreign debt can be paid back is with much cheaper dollars, which in in the cards. I woldn’t be surprised if that wasn’t the plan before the nations borrowed in dollars.

          • socalbeachdude

            The use of the US dollar is NOT DIMINISHED AT ALL and the US dollar is now MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER in the global economy.

            The US dollar has been managed SUPERBLY and the two currencies which have been most EGREGIOUSLY MISMANAGED are the Japanese yen and the Chinese reniminbi (RMB / yuan) with the renminbi taking the prize as the most egregiously mismanaged currency the world has ever seen.

            The US dollar is right around 95 on the DXY and will continue rising and will like reach at least 120 on the DXY and could go a high as 164 and will simply keep rising for a multitude of reasons. The US dollar is used in 83% of all global transactions and accounts for 63% of all global currency reserves and there is no other currency that can ever challenger the US dollar in the foreseeable future.

            AEP: Dollar hegemony endures as share of global transactions keeps rising

            The US dollar is tightening its grip on the global financial system at the expense of the euro, entrenching American hegemony and rendering the US Federal Reserve more powerful than at any time in history.

            Newly-released data from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) show that the dollar’s share of the $5.1 trillion in foreign exchange trades each day has continued rising to 87.6pc of all transactions.

            It is the latest evidence confirming the extraordinary resilience of the dollar-based international order, confounding expectations of US financial decline a decade ago.

            Roughly 60pc of the global economy is either in the dollar zone or closely tied to it through currency pegs or ‘dirty floats’, and the level of debt issued in dollars outside US jurisdiction has soared to $9 trillion.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/01/dollar-hegemony-endures-as-share-of-global-transactions-keeps-ri/

            China has printed more than $25 trillion in bogus currency like China did over the past 10 years to increase its money supply from around $2 trillion to over $27 trillion despite the fact that China’s economy is HALF THE SIZE OF THE US economy and the US money supply M1 size is only $3 trillion and the broadest MZM measure in the US is only $13.5 trillion.

            China’s currency value is as BOGUS AS A $3 EURO and the whole world knows that. There comes a point – like starting on August 11, 2015 – when the renminbi (RMB / yuan) was depegged by China from the US dollar that the whole world starts realizing that and then it all starts coming crashing down in value which is, of course, exactly what is now going on in the currency markets causing MASSIVE TURMOIL throughout the global markets for commodities, currencies, bonds, and equities.

            China is a display of MIND BOGGLING INCOMPETENCE these days and the renminbi is rapidly heading towards being TOTALLY WORTHLESS.

            The total M1 money supply in the US is only $3 trillion and only $1.3 trillion of that is printed currency. This is confirmed by the Federal Reserve H.3 report:

            http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h3/current/

            M2 which includes M1 plus savings balances is only around $13. None of the QE funds increased the money supply at all but only served to increase the MONETARY BASE with 100% of those funds remaining inside the Federal Reserve.

            That LITTLE BIT OF MONEY supports the largest economy in the world which is now an $18 trillion a year economy.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Great Britian, from whence you get your “facts”, and the U.S. share a global currency empire which both will deny is failing until it it obvious to all. The fiasco of 2008-9 revealed to the world the mismanagement under their oversight. Many nations have been embracing a move away from their hegmony. The U.S. and Britian used to have a lock on education that supported the economic and financial structure of the world. They do no more.
            Options are being discussed and positions settled around the world, the way forward is becoming more clear daily. You will not read about these discussion in the MSM. A nation, or two, can only abuse others for so long before there is blowback. We have exceeded that point. There are many leaders worldwide smarter than many of our leaders. Good Luck!

          • socalbeachdude

            Wrong. The facts I use come from an array of US and global sources and are absolutely correct.

            As to 2008-2009, there was no “financial crisis” at all, but rather just an accounting issue with FASB Rule 157 (“mark to market”) and as soon as that newly implemented rule was rescinded on March 9, 2009, assets had a sudden and “miraculous” recovery.

            Practically NOBODY WANTED ANY OF THOSE SO-CALLED “BAILOUTS” which were nothing other than VERY SHORT TERM LOANS WITH VERY HIGH INTEREST RATES OF 6% to 9% which were FORCED ON FINANCIAL ENTITIES and all of which were IMMEDIATELY REPAID as soon as that was allowed.

            No money was “given” to anyone from the US government and there was NO NET COST AT ALL for those “bailouts.”

            The major underlying cause of the 2008-2009 PERCEIVED (NOT REAL) LIQUIDITY SITUATION was the enactment of the Gramm Leach Bliley “Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999” which a number of folks predicted the day it was signed into law by President Bill Clinton would result in a major financial disaster within 10 years. It only took about 8 years for that to happen.

            There is no currency in the foreseeable future that can even come close to displacing the US dollar. There is not even the slightest chance of the US dollar lessening in importance in the foreseeable future.

            The dollar will just keep getting stronger and stronger on its multi-year move upwards both on the DXY where it is now over 95 and headed to well over 100 and in terms of its purchasing power.

            There are many reasons the US dollar is rising, not the least of which is that it is substantially undervalued. The US dollar is SOARING upwards and is up 22% on the DXY over the past 2 years and is skyrocketing in purchasing power against nearly all of the world’s 27 major commodities.

            The US dollar is the strongest and most stable currency in the world and is used in more than 83% of all global transactions and accounts for more than 63% of all reserves in the global economy. The US dollar has been SOARING UPWARDS and reached 100 on the DXY last year which was up 22% over the past 2 years and it is now around 95 on the DXY.

    • robert

      “Voting is meaningless.” It was not in Florida when Bush II was elected the first time, or chosen by SCOTUS depending on point of view. But, if you are suggesting you get the same result regardless of which party is in power, then you are on solid ground it seems.

    • socalbeachdude

      Why should religion have any relevance at all when it comes to economic issues? Those are FINANCIAL and ACCOUNTING matters that have nothing whatsoever to do with religious beliefs.

      Where on earth do you come up with such totally bogus notions regarding Citizens United and the Federal Reserve? That is total nonsense and totally false.

  • ISA41:10

    Liberalism = MASSIVE FAILURE!!!!!!!!

  • Nick Reynolds

    I am not a supporter of either party, however, there does seem to be a huge anti Obama thread that runs deep on this site.If I can remember 50 years + back to classes on u.s gov’t/civics, it seems that the spending is done as follows. The executive branch proposes a budget to congress, then congress approves the budget and sends it to the president for his approval. So in the real world, congress is responsible for the deficits.
    If I am wrong about how that is the workings of the budget and spending, my sincere apologies.
    The biggest problem to me seems to be this massive spending on the military, the covert and spying agencies, but above all the ignorance and arrogance of those that still believe in perpetual war for perpetual peace.
    I do hope trump gets elected(Hillary epitomizes the continuation of neo-con policies) because the people will get what they deserve.
    Now kids, back to your MSM, game shows, and “reality shows”, whatever that stuff is about.

    • Raymond Chow

      It’s the massive spending on entitlement is the problem. Entitlement was never part of the constitution as the founding father intended it to be. Military is constitutional spending. The US only spend $600 billion out of $3.7 trillion per year spending.

      • socalbeachdude

        Generally correct as military spending including Veterans Benefits is only 20% of the federal spending.

    • socalbeachdude

      The “wars” are JUST A VAST WASTE OF MONEY BY CONGRESS and cause excess spending by the federal government. The biggest part of the problem with federal spending, however, is NOT THE MILITARY BUDGET but rather social welfare programs including Social Security and Medicare which account for more than 63% of all federal spending each year which now amounts to a total of more than $4 trillion.

      The biggest part of the spending is SOCIAL PROGRAMS including the Social Security and Medicare insurance programs which are NOT ACTUARILY SOUND and which are paying out vastly more than they have taken in with payroll taxes.

      A summary of the fiscal 2015 US federal government expenditures totaling nearly $4 trillion is as follows:

      WELFARE & MEDICAL (63%)
      33% Social Security, Unemployment, Labor
      27% Medicare & Health
      ..3% Housing & Community

      MILITARY (20%)
      16% Military
      ..4% Veterans Benefits

      INTEREST ON DEBT (6%)
      ..6% Interest on Debt

      FOOD & TRANSPORTATION (6%)
      ..3% Food & Agriculture
      ..3% Transportation

      EDUCATION & SCIENCE (3%)
      ..2% Education
      ..1% Science

      ENERGY, ENVIRONMENT, & INTERNATIONAL (2%)
      ..1% International Affair
      ..1% Energy & Environment

      OTHER EXPENSES (1%)
      ..1% Government Expenses (general)

      The complete breakdown of Fiscal 2015 expenditures is extensively detailed including actual numbers as well as pie-charts with various percentage breakdowns as to discretionary and non-discretionary expenditures at:

      https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

      • Nick Reynolds

        Figures don’t lie, but liars do figure. I suppose where one sources information is where we need to be suspect. From figures I see, the military discretionary spending is about 25 %, not including veterans, homeland “insecurity”. , nuclear program(under Dept. of Energy), NSA, CIA, and dozens of other agencies all linked to the military industrial complex. Add in interest on the borrowed money and it easily exceeds a trillion per year. A trillion, here, a trillion here, soon we will be talking real money.
        Anyways, what does it matter, as the Fed will just keep printing money(digits) until?, then it is goodbye empire….

        • socalbeachdude

          Nope. The figures that I stated as to the percentages of spending above are TOTALLY ACCURATE and military spending (including defensive and offensive spending) of 16% plus 4% for Veterans Benefits are entire accurate for a total percentage of 20% military spending. By far, the biggest part of federal spending is on welfare and health programs precisely as detailed above in my list.

          If you have any evidence to support your assertions of any higher spending within the total Fiscal 2016 budget (my figures from National Priorities are Fiscal 2015) then please provide support with a citation as to your assertions.

          The Federal Reserve does not just print money and the QE programs entirely ended in October 2014 after having created $3.6 trillion of new money to purchase EXISTING SECURITIES from member banks to purchase MBS instruments and US Treasures with ALL OF THOSE PROCEEDS ALWAYS REMAINING IN THE RESERVES ACCOUNTS OF THOSE BANKS INSIDE THE FEDERAL RESERVE FROM WHOM THE FEDERAL RESERVE PURCHASED THOSE SECURITIES and with none of those funds ever going anywhere else.

  • billtheguy

    Whatever, whoever, with the government. It needs reset. Its gonna hurt, the bubble has got to big.

  • Pete Okuhira

    What goes around, comes around. It’s time for America to pay the price. And I can see the handwritings on the wall and the country will crumble to pieces like the Roman Empire.

    • XSANDIEGOCA

      One thing is for sure: The 1% will not pay the price.

      • Jack Frost

        Depends on how severe things get. Most 1% don’t mow their own lawn, much less know any useful real world skills. How many computer people will be in demand after the North Korean’s EMP eliminates electric power completely for a decade or so? Would you share anything for their worthless printed paper money?

        • XSANDIEGOCA

          They will just fly away to Switzerland or Uruguay.

          • socalbeachdude

            Nobody I know has any intention of leaving Beverly Hills, California except for vacations.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            on good earthquake and Beverly Hills will leave you and you’ll wind up in Compton

          • socalbeachdude

            Laughably false. Earthquakes do not move land more than a few feet and the Compton area is more than 22 miles away from Beverly Hills, CA.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            tell that to mother nature isn’t it your tee time at the Hillcrest?

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          they will just go into their EMP hardened underground bunkers with their gold bullion, they never lose until they are judged by a higher authority

          • socalbeachdude

            People with real money and assets do not hold little junk fungible commodity stuff like gold or other metals except for jewelry.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            ok then , I guess high value art and real estate will mean so much to the savage hoards when you barter for food

          • socalbeachdude

            Obviously, nobody will be “bartering” for anything. Get real.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            except for their lives

      • Joyce Haze

        Oh yes, they to will become poor. Read Ezekiel 7: vs.19 financially and spiritually if that is what they cling too.

      • socalbeachdude

        False. Those with significant assets will PAY THE GREATEST PRICE OF ALL as the value of their assets will plummet, particularly those with substantial stock, bond, and real estate holdings which is where most all of the “wealth” in America is held today.

      • greanfinisher .

        They never have.

        • socalbeachdude

          80% of all federal income taxes are paid by the top 20% of income earners in the US and that has long been the case. The bottom 50% of income earners do not even pay a penny in federal income taxes.

          • greanfinisher .

            Yeah, that’s what I gathered after Trump mentioned in last night’s debate that he paid no federal income taxes.

  • Bill

    The summary above is indicative of a great plan of destruction. This plan of destruction has been carried out by an elite cabal that has invaded all party lines with the common thread of destruction for all things good about America. This huge force of government workers is more than capable of carrying out the sinister plan initiated through a matrix that is impossible to understand or trace.

    There is only one person with the ability, tenacity, and strength to destroy the matrix that has brought America to its knees.

    • socalbeachdude

      Nope. This is about RECKLESS INCOMPETENCE and not about any “plan” at all. In fact, the LACK OF A PLAN to intelligently deal with financial matters and SOUND ACCOUNTING is obviously the real issue.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    Obama’s strategy has been brilliant. He has “bought” the support of the 1%, who were quite happy to be bought! Of course the 1% love him! Why not?! Of course the 1% is all in for Hillary and – by extension – Obama’s third term!! Why shouldn’t they be? They have made so much money they can not believe it. The Gilded Age had nothing on this. What is Zuckerberg worth? 53 BILLIONS!! So all the movers and shakers, all the Machers, all those who control what we see and read adore Obama. You want proof? The FB, GOOG and AMZN Founders are extensions of the campaign. If Hillary gets in, it means another 8 years of ZIRP and NIRP! How would you like to borrow money for 1% or less than ZERO? At some point, the party will end and the Machers will just take a Big Short position before the markets collapse. They will be, to use an options term, IN THE MONEY. The rest of us with be OUT OF THE MONEY. The Income/Asset balance has not been this out of whack since….. 1929 and you know what happened then. It took over two decades and a World War to get back to where it was. How do our candidates expect to deal with the enormous stock bubble the FED has created? How do they intend to deal with the bankruptcy of SS and Medicare? Will they? Can they? The 1% may not let them… Democracy and the Republic are just about to go out of business IMHO. Methinks we have been taken for quite a ride.

    • df NJ

      Obama has no power. Obama is a puppet of the 1%. How can you have this so backwards? Besides, Congress has way more power than the president anyway. And the international CEOs own Congress. This is not our country.

  • Paul Benson

    Politics is not the answer!
    We are living in a nation that has entered a time of God’s Judgment. The only way to recover is to repent and return to being a culture God can once again place his blessing upon. This requires each and every one of us to examine our lives and change accordingly. Even if it does not lead to national repentance it will cause God to see YOU as righteous, and he is well able to take care of his own. Are you righteous or wicked in God’s sight? We are saved by faith, but we are judged according to our actions. Do your actions declare you to be righteous?

    Please read the article: Can Christians Change The Fate Of A Nation Under Judgment? at this link:

    https://pbenson.me/2016/08/09/change-fate-nation-under-judgment/

    It is time to seek the LORD in a desperate manner people!
    Blessings upon those who love our Christ;
    Paul Benson
    http://www.paulbenson.me

    • jox

      The end of the world, the second coming, etc etc. Yawn.

      • Jack Frost

        Are you skeptical of the race war being fomented by the current president as well? The end of the world is relative. Ask the Japanese at the cities that were nuked. Or the people in Venezuela looking for pets to eat. Keep yawning…

        • jox

          I’m not at all skeptical about wars and economic collapse. But this has nothing to do with God, prophecies, second comings and so on.

      • Paul Benson

        They are not yawning in Hell! Will that be your fate?

        • jox

          Perhaps it works in USA, but in my country you cannot scare even little children with those tales of heaven and hell. You understand that 2000 years repeating the same prophecies, never true, eventually become boring.

          • Paul Benson

            Never true? The Old Testament is chock full of prophesy about Jesus that all were fulfilled. Look into it; it is amazing. Jesus prophesied the destruction of Jerusalem which took place 35 Years later. Historical fact! Many New Testament prophesies have come to pass; and all the others will also. You actually fulfill a prophesy yourself with your mocking!

            But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. Jude 1:17-18

            How’s that feel to know you are helping to fulfill the very prophesies you are denying? Jesus loves you so much he died for your sins to save you. Why not ask him to make himself real to you. READ the Bible instead of mocking it. It will bring you life if you will let it.

          • jox

            Another person with a book actually written by God, not like the others and their books. And prophecies that are always wrong. Or so imprecises that can be applied on any circumstance. “There will be a war and a city will be destroyed, during the next 5.000”. Wow, really? You get out of the book and get a life.

          • Jerry C
          • jox

            Sure I am. I am a man with its own reasoning. I am not so lucky to have a book written by God himself.

          • yirgach

            Most of the new testament (those parts which ended up in the current bible anyway) was written between 100 – 300 years after the fact. So of course prophecies could be made which turned out to be true.

          • Paul Benson

            yeah, I guess that would explain the prophesied rebirth of the nation of Israel in 1948. A nation that never existed for over 2 millennia came back into existence just as prophesied years before Jesus was even born. Soften your heart toward God before he hardens his toward you. You will become a believer someday. Now is much preferable as after death it is too late for salvation. But you WILL believe!

          • GSOB

            Which, as presented by you, buttresses unbelief.

          • Jerry C

            Actually, 2/3 of the New Testament are quotes of the Old Testament; where there are over 300 prophecies alone of the Messiah. Try harder. Next.

          • Jerry C

            1948-Israel a nation
            1967-Jerusalem it’s capital
            Agenda 2030-One World Government

            Tick tock.

          • GSOB

            Galatians 4:25

          • GSOB

            Hosea 8:8

          • sister soldier

            And yet somehow you still manage to fulfill prophecy. How did the Bible know that 2,000 give or take a few decades that you would say exactly what you have posted today?

            “First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. “Where is the promise of His coming?” they will ask. “Ever since our fathers fell asleep, everything continues as it has from the beginning of creation.”

            “But they deliberately overlook the fact that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water, through which the world of that time perished in the flood. And by that same Word, the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.”

          • jox

            “Some thousand years in the future there will be scoffers”. wow, thisis something that only God can say.

          • sister soldier

            That should read 2,000 years ago.

  • Aug 11, 2016 Who Really Controls the Presidential Debates?

    Why has it been so long since we’ve seen a third candidate on the presidential debate stage? Who really controls the presidential debates?

    https://youtu.be/tIQqlwT41EM

  • GSOB

    Psalm 140:11

  • JC Teecher

    Contrary to some preachings/teachings, the “rain” falls on the just, as well as the unjust, at the same time. The difference being that the “just” have been in concert with the Holy Spirit, which guides their steps through the fiery trials of life. Guiding how? Guiding how to prepare, what to prepare for, where to be when the floods of judgment come pouring down upon this heathen nation.

    The pouring out of hope and understanding of what must transpire in order for the prophetic word to become manifest, for His children.
    The pouring out of reason, when the rain that falls, is taking out innocent lives. Who is to say those innocent lives feel pain? I for one, believe in an Omnipotent Father that has the compassion to allow for that possibility.
    If those innocent, are under the age of accountability, then they immediate go to be with the Father in Heaven, with complete resurrection of body and soul, for eternity.

    We are on a collision course with God’s prophetic timeclock, and NO one potus is gonna change that, nor change the hearts and minds of a nonrepentant world. What a potus will do is to promote the fulfillment of prophecy that has been written in stone, before Christ came to be the sacrificial Lamb, that could take sin from the world. Has it happened?
    Yes, for millions, maybe billions, for the past 2000 years (nearly). We can only speculate the numbers, because that is Yahweh’s business.

    As individuals, we must pray and simply talk with our Father, to find the path he wants us own, and who we align with on that path to the Kingdom.

    • df NJ

      RE: “We are on a collision course with God’s prophetic timeclock”

      How do you know this? Are you speaking for God?

      • Jerry C

        YHVH’s 7 Holy Feast Days: Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Shavaot, Teruah, Atonement & Tabernacles. Yeshua haMessiach (Jesus Christ) who is the express image of the invisible GOD fulfilled the first 4; leaving the last 3 on His prophetic calendar. There you go.

        • df NJ

          If God is invisible how can you see his image?

          • Jerry C

            “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”-Romans 1:20-25

    • sister soldier

      Amen and amen again. God bless.

      • JC Teecher

        Amen, to your Amens,

        • tsf

          Amen to your amen to her amens.

  • GSOB

    All 26 debates issues listed above do not address terrorism.
    How far off the purpose of civil government is in America. The debates are futile.

  • GSOB

    Government interferes with the free market economy and into affairs it ought not to;creates problems and the populace cry churns out another financial band aide.

    • df NJ

      CEOs control the government. The government controls the free market economy. Hence, the CEOs control the free market economy. The best thing about monopoly is you can charge whatever you want!

  • South Texas

    I don’t have a high hopes for a Trump presidency; I’m sure the the criminal congress will make it pain for him to do anything proposed in the interest of politics as opposed for the good of the country.

    • df NJ

      “good of the country” is defined as what is good for the CEOs. By that measure, everything is going GREAT!!!

    • robert

      What you might see with Trump concerning the congress is him calling out by name congress people who are obstructionist to getting anything done. He could publish a weekly roll call of congress people and how they voted and how it affects the congress person’s district or state in the case of senators. Right now, a voter would have to search out how his elected idiot voted on any particular measure. Most do not take the time. He demolished the Bush clan and they hate him more than any democrat. Come to that, he demolished a dozen or more key republican wannabes. Trump should not be taken lightly. What began as a joke has turned deadly serious.

  • Ceptemus

    Who ever bends over to the Jews will win, Trump gave his daughters to them, promised to protect Israel, won most prestige goyim awards and he will recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel when he wins

    • GSOB

      LOL

      • socalbeachdude

        Those of us who are Jewish certainly do not see the world in the way you do!

        • GSOB

          To be a orthodox Jew and yet not believe that Jesus is the Messiah,….. is a oxymoron. See Romans 2:29;9:6

    • socalbeachdude

      Melania Trump is Jewish and so her son Barron Trump is Jewish. The 4 children by his other 2 marriages to Ivana and to Marla Maples are not Jewish by birth because neither of those ladies is Jewish. Ivanka Trump converted to the Jewish faith before marrying Jared Kushner in 2009 and both classifying themselves as Orthodox Jewish.

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        Melania, I don’t think so , her relatives may have been Nazi collaberators in Slovinia , don’t believe all the crap written in the Jerusalem Post

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      BS

  • greanfinisher .

    To be fair, Barack Obama inherited the mess from the Clinton and Bush regimes, but one could surely say that the President did nothing to change the status quo, but rather exacerbated the problem.

    • HeyAHuman

      …And I’ll bet that we’ll get more of the same, as these guys just pass the baton to one another. Make empty promises, make a mess, rinse and repeat.

      • greanfinisher .

        You guessed it.

    • socalbeachdude

      During the past 8 years of the Obama administration the DEBT PROBLEMS BECAME MASSIVELY WORSE as a result of GROSSLY PROFLIGATE SPENDING which nearly doubled the national debt from $10 trillion to nearly $20 trillion and it is now increasing at a rate of around $1.4 trillion a year.

      • greanfinisher .

        I think that most of the deficit can be attributed to the needless and costly wars that the imperialists in this country created.

        • socalbeachdude

          Nope. Only 20% of the annual federal budget goes to military spending which includes 16% for active “defense” (“offense”) spending and 4% for Veterans Benefits.

          • greanfinisher .

            Well, that ‘20%’ is obscenely bloated. The generals have enough toys to play with already.

          • socalbeachdude

            I don’t disagree with that and would cut military spending significant and close most all of the US military bases around the world.

            Isn’t it really very easy to cut federal spending by $1 trillion a year?

            1) Cut Social Security payments by 20% ($266 billion saved)

            2) Cut allowable Medicare charges by 50% ($425 billion saved)

            3) Eliminate food stamps entirely ($80 billion saved)

            4) Cut military expenditures by 30% ($240 billion saved)

            5) Increase Congressional salaries by 100% for mission accomplished!!!

            WASN’T THAT REALLY SIMPLE AND EASY TO CUT $1 TRILLION A YEAR?

          • greanfinisher .

            There’s only one thing to do with a hopelessly overcrowded lifeboat.

          • socalbeachdude

            Drill a hole in the bottom to drain the water?

          • greanfinisher .

            Toss the excess baggage overboard.

          • socalbeachdude

            The only problem with that would be that everyone with baggage clams that THEIR BAGGAGE is absolutely essential!!!

          • greanfinisher .

            Baggage checkers can be hired.

          • GSOB

            go swimming or scuba diving

          • greanfinisher .

            Oh they’ll go swimming all right.

  • DJohn1

    The problem is both candidates are unqualified for office.
    So it is heads I win, tails you lose.

    • greanfinisher .

      Isn’t that always the case?

    • socalbeachdude

      And just what to you makes a candidate for President of the US “qualified for office?”

      • greanfinisher .

        Both of the candidates are qualified for the office. It’s just that neither of the two are fit to be the president of the United States.

        • socalbeachdude

          Donald Trump is perfectly “fit” to be President in all respects. Hellery Clinton is a crooked liar and law breaker and highly unethical and is very unfit in that regard to be President, leaving aside the issue that she appears to be quite ill.

          So what in your regard would have a person “fit” to be President and exactly who would qualify by your definition?

          • greanfinisher .

            Well, for one thing, he or she would have to be ethical. Clearly, both have failed miserably in that regard.

          • socalbeachdude

            Donald Trump is EXTREMELY HONEST and HIGHLY ETHICAL. Name one single instance where he has not been either fully honest or fully ethical.

          • greanfinisher .

            He embezzled funds from his own charity.

          • socalbeachdude

            Absolutely false. Where on earth do you come up with such bogus nonsense? Donald Trump did not “embezzle” a single dollar from his charitable foundation.

          • greanfinisher .

            That’s not what I had read.

          • socalbeachdude

            Well, then you READ WRONG as there are no improper transactions whatsoever related to Donald Trump’s foundation.

          • greanfinisher .

            I tried sending you a link, but it’s now being ‘moderated’.

          • socalbeachdude

            That happens here sometimes…

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Trump Whitehouse !!!

            Hillary Jailhouse !!!

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          VOTE TRUMP….

  • Richard O. Mann

    So many factors effecting the economy and the world as a whole these days. No matter who wins this election, I really doubt they will be able to do anything to turn the world around.

    • greanfinisher .

      None of those two stooges have any intentions of turning things around (except of course towards their own benefit).

  • Richard

    “If you can believe it, the total number of government employees now
    outnumbers the total number of manufacturing employees in the United
    States by almost 10 million.”

    It seems the figure you give is dependent on whether I can believe it. If I actually cannot believe it, how does the figure change, please?

  • socalbeachdude

    The Federal Reserve has not been “recklessly printing money and dumping it in the economy” as this otherwise excellent article falsely assert. The entire QE funds of around $3.6 trillion have ALWAYS REMAINED INSIDE THE FEDERAL RESERVE and were used by the Federal Reserve to purchase EXISTING SECURITIES consisting of MBS instruments and US Treasuries from member banks with the PROCEEDS DEPOSITED INTO THE RESERVES ACCOUNTS OF THOSE BANKS INSIDE THE FEDERAL RESERVE where those funds remain today.

    • Jerry C

      You’ve. Lost. Any. Credibility.

  • socalbeachdude

    The biggest part of the spending is SOCIAL PROGRAMS including the Social Security and Medicare insurance programs which are NOT ACTUARILY SOUND and which are paying out vastly more than they have taken in with payroll taxes.

    A summary of the fiscal 2015 US federal government expenditures totaling nearly $4 trillion is as follows:

    WELFARE & MEDICAL (63%)
    33% Social Security, Unemployment, Labor
    27% Medicare & Health
    ..3% Housing & Community

    MILITARY (20%)
    16% Military
    ..4% Veterans Benefits

    INTEREST ON DEBT (6%)
    ..6% Interest on Debt

    FOOD & TRANSPORTATION (6%)
    ..3% Food & Agriculture
    ..3% Transportation

    EDUCATION & SCIENCE (3%)
    ..2% Education
    ..1% Science

    ENERGY, ENVIRONMENT, & INTERNATIONAL (2%)
    ..1% International Affair
    ..1% Energy & Environment

    OTHER EXPENSES (1%)
    ..1% Government Expenses (general)

    The complete breakdown of Fiscal 2015 expenditures is extensively detailed including actual numbers as well as pie-charts with various percentage breakdowns as to discretionary and non-discretionary expenditures at:

    https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

    • ddduke

      You seem to have omitted defense spending. With the military rolled into it, it is about 57%. Social Security and Medicare are programs that are supported by contributions from our paychecks. They are not entitlements. They are the least of our economic problems. Had congress not been stealing from these funds, they would be solvent and self supporting. They would also be in much better shape had not our trade agreements exported most of our manufacturing jobs offshore. Unemployment is the reason that there is a shortfall in the funds going into these programs.

      • socalbeachdude

        Huh? All “defense” spending is including in MILITARY SPENDING above and amounts to 16% for “defense” spending plus 4% for Veterans Benefits for a total of 20% of the annual federal budget.

        The VAST MAJORITY of all federal spending is indeed WELFARE & MEDICAL (63%):
        33% Social Security, Unemployment, Labor
        27% Medicare & Health
        ..3% Housing & Community

        Congress does not “steal” anything from anyone but rather BORROWS TO OVERSPEND by issuing US TREASURIES (bonds, bills, notes, and TIPS) and this year has issued more than $1.4 trillion in US Treasuries which is why the national (federal) debt is now over $19.5 trillion.

    • df NJ

      So you are suggesting we should kill people on welfare?

      • socalbeachdude

        Huh? How am I in any way suggesting that?

        What the above list simply involves is the BREAKDOWN IN FISCAL 2015 OF ALL OF THE US GOVERNMENT FEDERAL SPENDING of around $4 trillion which is about $1 trillion higher than the revenues of around $3 trillion.

  • socalbeachdude

    MONEY is not a static thing but rather a DYNAMIC THING THAT CIRCULATES in every economy and cash itself is used in only a small amount of transactions in the US and global economies these days.

    The size of the global economy is now around $72 trillion a year and the the US economy is around $18 trillion a year.

    The total M1 money supply in the US is only $3 trillion and only $1.3 trillion of that is printed currency. This is confirmed by the Federal Reserve H.3 report:

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h3/current/

    M2 which includes M1 plus savings balances is only around $13. None of the QE funds increased the money supply at all but only served to increase the MONETARY BASE with 100% of those funds remaining inside the Federal Reserve.

    That LITTLE BIT OF MONEY supports the largest economy in the world which is now an $18 trillion a year economy.

    Not a penny of the debt in the US was run up by the Federal Reserve at all.

    No debt is “created out of thin air” at all and is in fact BORROWED DEPOSITS from customers at commercial retail banks in the US banking system plus the funds from the huge $25 trillion SHADOW BANKING SYSTEM in the US outside of the scope of the regulated banking system which includes funds at money market funds, hedge funds, pension funds, insurance companies, etc. which is not taken into account in the form figures of the US money supply.

    MOST MONEY TODAY IS ELECTRONIC MONEY which is the BEST AND MOST DYNAMIC AND FLUID FORM OF MONEY EVER DEVISED.

    • GSOB

      Paving the way for full implementation, globally, of the bitcoin

      • socalbeachdude

        Laughably false. BitCON is nothing but a FRAUDULENT PONZI SCHEME SCAM and has a total speculative value of about $8 billion in a $72 trillion a year global economy.

        The use of the US dollar is NOT DIMINISHED AT ALL and the US dollar is now MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER in the global economy.

        The US dollar has been managed SUPERBLY and the two currencies which have been most EGREGIOUSLY MISMANAGED are the Japanese yen and the Chinese reniminbi (RMB / yuan) with the renminbi taking the prize as the most egregiously mismanaged currency the world has ever seen.

        The US dollar is right around 95 on the DXY and will continue rising and will like reach at least 120 on the DXY and could go a high as 164 and will simply keep rising for a multitude of reasons. The US dollar is used in 83% of all global transactions and accounts for 63% of all global currency reserves and there is no other currency that can ever challenger the US dollar in the foreseeable future.

        AEP: Dollar hegemony endures as share of global transactions keeps rising

        The US dollar is tightening its grip on the global financial system at the expense of the euro, entrenching American hegemony and rendering the US Federal Reserve more powerful than at any time in history.

        Newly-released data from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) show that the dollar’s share of the $5.1 trillion in foreign exchange trades each day has continued rising to 87.6pc of all transactions.

        It is the latest evidence confirming the extraordinary resilience of the dollar-based international order, confounding expectations of US financial decline a decade ago.

        Roughly 60pc of the global economy is either in the dollar zone or closely tied to it through currency pegs or ‘dirty floats’, and the level of debt issued in dollars outside US jurisdiction has soared to $9 trillion.

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/01/dollar-hegemony-endures-as-share-of-global-transactions-keeps-ri/

        China has printed more than $25 trillion in bogus currency like China did over the past 10 years to increase its money supply from around $2 trillion to over $27 trillion despite the fact that China’s economy is HALF THE SIZE OF THE US economy and the US money supply M1 size is only $3 trillion and the broadest MZM measure in the US is only $13.5 trillion.

        China’s currency value is as BOGUS AS A $3 EURO and the whole world knows that. There comes a point – like starting on August 11, 2015 – when the renminbi (RMB / yuan) was depegged by China from the US dollar that the whole world starts realizing that and then it all starts coming crashing down in value which is, of course, exactly what is now going on in the currency markets causing MASSIVE TURMOIL throughout the global markets for commodities, currencies, bonds, and equities.

        China is a display of MIND BOGGLING INCOMPETENCE these days and the renminbi is rapidly heading towards being TOTALLY WORTHLESS.

        The total M1 money supply in the US is only $3 trillion and only $1.3 trillion of that is printed currency. This is confirmed by the Federal Reserve H.3 report:

        http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h3/current/

        M2 which includes M1 plus savings balances is only around $13. None of the QE funds increased the money supply at all but only served to increase the MONETARY BASE with 100% of those funds remaining inside the Federal Reserve.

        That LITTLE BIT OF MONEY supports the largest economy in the world which is now an $18 trillion a year economy.

        • robert

          Good write-up. The world will never likely trust the Chinese system. In the US, people can be prosecuted for messing with the banking system or at least called to task. I would still prefer to see some criminal trials with Wells Fargo higher ups. Like VW. Any thing the Chinese report is questionable. They are professional liars. The greenback will be the currency of choice for a long time to come especially with the drug cartels, weapons smuggling etc. A roomful of Chinese money is risky.

          • df NJ

            Chinese money is more valuable and less risky than US dollar.

          • robert

            We shall see. But they are not there yet. Chinese financial system is shaky on a good day.

          • socalbeachdude

            Absolutely FALSE, and apparently you didn’t comprehend a single word that I stated above and I would suggest that you CAREFULLY AND SLOWLY RE-READ EXACTLY WHAT I STATED.

            The renminbi (RMB / yuan AKA: “Chinese money”) is PRACTICALLY WORTHLESS relative to the US dollar and still derives NEARLY ALL OF ITS VALUE FROM ITS PEG TO THE US DOLLAR while having been expanded by around 1,000% (10 times) over the past 10 years despite the fact that China’s economy is only about HALF THE SIZE OF THE US ECONOMY.

            As to the risk factor:

            China facing full-blown banking crisis, world’s top financial watchdog warns

            China has failed to curb excesses in its credit system and faces mounting risks of a full-blown banking crisis, according to early warning indicators released by the world’s top financial watchdog.

            A key gauge of credit vulnerability is now three times over the danger threshold and has continued to deteriorate, despite pledges by Chinese premier Li Keqiang to wean the economy off debt-driven growth before it is too late.

            The Bank for International Settlements warned in its quarterly report that China’s “credit to GDP gap” has reached 30.1, the highest to date and in a different league altogether from any other major country tracked by the institution. It is also significantly higher than the scores in East Asia’s speculative boom on 1997 or in the US subprime bubble before the Lehman crisis.

            China’s total credit reached 255pc of GDP at the end of last year, a jump of 107 percentage points over eight years. This is an extremely high level for a developing economy and is still rising fast .

            Outstanding loans have reached $28 trillion, as much as the commercial banking systems of the US and Japan combined. The scale is enough to threaten a worldwide shock if China ever loses control. Corporate debt alone has reached 171pc of GDP, and it is this that is keeping global regulators awake at night.

            The risk is a violent spike in yields if the pattern should revert to norm, setting off a flight from global bourses. We have had a foretaste of this over recent days. The other grim possibility is that ultra-low yields are instead pricing in a slump in nominal GDP for years to come – effectively a trade depression – and that would be even worse for equities.

            “It is becoming increasingly evident that central banks have been overburdened for far too long,” said Mr Borio.

            The BIS said one troubling development is a breakdown in the relationship between interest rates and currencies in global markets, what it describes as a violation of the iron law of “covered interest parity”.

            Yet it is China that is emerging as the epicentre of risk. The International Monetary Fund warned in June that debt levels were alarming and “must be addressed immediately”, though it is far from clear how the authorities can extract themselves so late in the day.

            The risks are well understood in Beijing. The state-owned People’s Daily published a front-page interview earlier this year from a “very authoritative person” warning that debt had been “growing like a tree in the air” and threatened to engulf China in a systemic financial crisis.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/18/bis-flashes-red-alert-for-a-banking-crisis-in-china/

  • socalbeachdude

    The big picture is that total aggregate debt in the US now exceeds $64 trillion.

    The breakdown of the $64 or so trillion of DEBT outstanding is approximately as follows by big picture category:

    30% Federal Government Debt
    20% Total Consumer Debt
    23% Total Corporate Debt
    27% Other debt including Municipalities

    The federal government debt is presently around $19 trillion, Total consumer debt is around $12 trillion which includes about $1 trillion in consumer unsecured credit, $1 trillion in vehicle loans, $1.36 trillion in student loans, and about $8.64 trillion in real estate loans secured by mortgages.

    The total corporate debt is around $14 trillion with a large percentage of that outstanding on corporate bonds which now have average interest rates of around 8.83%. The balance is a mix of all other types of debt outstanding with the largest portion of that $16 trillion being municipal bonds issued by state and local authorities and agencies.

    The US economy is about an $18 trillion a year economy and total assets in the US are around $180 trillion and the percentage of total debt to total assets is only about 35% which is an extremely low ratio from an accounting standpoint and the US is by far the wealthiest single country in the world.

  • GSOB

    God’s eternal purpose
    Is to have a group of people
    Created in His image and in His likeness
    To be filled with Him as life
    To express Him and represent Him.

    The first man Adam, failed.
    The last Adam (Jesus Christ)
    became a life giving spirit.

    As the resurrected and glorified God-Man,
    He will accomplish this eternal purpose.

    That is what the book of Revelation is all about!

    There is victory only in Jesus!

    Praise the Lord!

    Colossians 1:13, 14

    • aldownunder

      What’s that got too do with the article???

      • GSOB

        Six days later Jesus took with Him Peter and James and his brother John.
        He led them up to a high mountain by themselves.
        He was changed in looks before them.
        His face was as bright as the sun.
        His clothes looked as white as light.
        Moses and Elijah were seen talking with Jesus.
        Then Peter said to Jesus,
        “Lord, it is good for us to be here.
        If You will let us, we will build three altars here. One will be for You and one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

        While Peter was speaking, a bright cloud came over them.
        A voice from the cloud said,
        “This is My much-loved Son, I am very happy with Him. Listen to Him!”
        When the followers heard this, they got down on the ground on their faces and were very much afraid.
        Jesus came and put His hand on them.
        He said, “Get up!
        Do not be afraid.”
        When they looked up, they saw no one there but Jesus only.

        • socalbeachdude

          Obviously your little fable has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the US or global economy and further makes absolutely ZERO SENSE and is totally irrelevant to this commentary on the US economy.

          • GSOB

            To you, for now. Perhaps that will change.

      • socalbeachdude

        That is exactly my question!!!

        • GSOB

          Little children, love one another
          As the Father loves us
          Let us love our brother
          God is love and love is of God
          And everyone that loveth is born of God
          Beloved,
          Let us love one another

          God is love and love is of God
          And everyone that loveth is born of God
          Let us love one another.

    • socalbeachdude

      What on earth do your proprietary religious views have to do with the US economy?

      • GSOB

        God is love and love is of God.
        And everyone that loveth is born of God

        Let us love one another.

    • df NJ

      God stood by while 50 million people died during WWII. God is pro-choice because there is no amount of evil God will not tolerate in order to preserve our free-will. Man is responsible for ALL our misery. ONLY MAN IS CAPABLE OF ALLEVIATING OUR MISERY! NOT GOD!!!

      • socalbeachdude

        People are by nature violent and will always do what people tend to do with a favorite past time of many being to kill each other and inflict carnage.

        • GSOB

          The reason why we sin is because we are sinners. Not only do we need forgiveness for our sins from God, we need to be freed from our sin nature by God. Hence, if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation.

      • RedPillPlease

        I feel sorry for those who speak as if they really know God, but in fact know nothing. You should have learned the old proverb: Better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

      • GSOB

        That man is Jesus Christ. He is the God-man.

    • Peter

      God gave us all Christ- not religion.

  • ALWAYSTOMORROW

    I hope Lester Holt doesn’t let the presidential debate end tonight without getting the candidates input on how the situation should be handled concerning the creepy clowns.

    • socalbeachdude

      Huh? What “creepy clowns?” The Democrats?

  • Peter

    Does nobody get that both of these candidates are venal, corporate fascist pigs?

    • Peter

      And what is apparent to those of us who understand(somewhat) what’s really going on is that we are indeed coming soon to an economic upheaval like no American has ever seen.

      • socalbeachdude

        Huh? What “upheaval” and by whom and for what?

        • Jerry C

          Great Tribulation; otherwise known as The Time of Jacobs Trouble.

          • GSOB

            Fulfilled.

    • df NJ

      “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” Benito Mussolini

      The lobbyists force the politicians to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing.

      • Peter

        I believe our republic died on Nov. 22, 1963. Ike warned us.

        • RedPillPlease

          I would consider that date to be in December of 1913, when Congress turned over its monetary responsibilities to a foreign entity operated by Rothchild agents who have no loyalty to the United States. With that move, the real power and authority of America was turned over to an international body of globalists.

          • Peter

            Evolution. The game’s been on even before that. Thx.

          • RedPillPlease

            Well sure, it’s why the oath of office includes “all enemies, both foreign and domestic.” The organizational structure created to infiltrate our government took root in 1832, at the founding of the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale University, whose objective was to take over all our institutions slowly but surely, including the church. Prof. Antony Sutton wrote: “America’s Secret Establishment,” detailing the inner workings of the Order including a membership roster that links them to the Titans of corporate America and government authority.

          • Peter

            Speaking to the choir, brother. Too bad most don’t know. Orwell on steroids.

          • socalbeachdude

            And what does that have to do with the US government, Federal Reserve, or debt disaster in the US which has been created by GROSSLY PROFLIGATE PEOPLE?

          • RedPillPlease

            Read the book.

          • socalbeachdude

            That book has little to no substantive content at all.

          • RedPillPlease

            Says you!

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Red Pill dont waste your time he has been on this site before…..totally broken flappers….and upvotes himself lol.

          • socalbeachdude

            You just don’t “get it” at all, do you?

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            RedPillPlease I just put a BLOCK on socalbeachdude I recommend you do the same…..its a wackjob !

          • socalbeachdude

            Nope, but you certainly appear to be based on your total lack of comprehension of the facts regarding both the US economy and the Federal Reserve.

            Moreover, you are obviously not the least bit interest in learning anything about the actual facts which is a huge part of your problem and that of the US where most of the public is highly uninformed about most issues including economic and financial matters.

          • RedPillPlease

            Yep, did that last night. He’s over the top.

          • socalbeachdude

            I am 100% correct in my comments and analysis regarding the Federal Reserve.

          • socalbeachdude

            Nope. The Federal Reserve has been a superb and excellent central bank in the US for the past 103 years and has nothing whatsoever to do with the Rothschild family.

          • RedPillPlease

            So G. Edward Griffin, famed historian and author of “The Creature from Jekyl Island” is a liar and ignorant buffoon? Your statement is by far one of the most preposterous and laughable comments I’ve seen in years. Under the Federal Reserve system, our dollar has lost over 98% of its purchasing power. In 1913, an ounce of gold could be purchased for $20.00, and today, it bounces between $1400.00 to $1800.00. The Federal Reserve system is a Ponzi scheme on steroids that would make Madoff look like a petty thief!

          • socalbeachdude

            That “creature” book was originally written by G. Edwards Griffin in 1994 and is nothing but a piece of bogus and blatantly false propaganda garbage and little else. Its absurd assertions have been thorough and totally debunked and what is left of the 1% of factoids remaining there are of no significance whatsoever and the entire point of the book is to promote fantastical and inane and false conspiracy theories about the Federal Reserve System.

            The Story Behind ‘The Creature From Jekyll Island,’ the Anti-Fed Conspiracy Theory Bible

            The Fed was secretly created to enact vicious cycles of genocide. Or so this popular book would have you believe.

            It’s the kind of conspiracy theory so all-encompassing that it explains the very roots of all modern American wars, depression, economic boom, and (most importantly!) the darkest, best-kept secrets of international banking.

            Typically, the Federal Reserve is a government entity that frustrated high schoolers in America are forced to learn about before entering adulthood and forgetting exactly what it is or why it exists. The Fed is our central banking system that was created at the tail end of 1913 as a response to a string of financial crises. It is responsible for implementing the United States’s monetary policy, and is routinely and aptly described as “boring.”

            It’s all fairly mundane and unsexy (though hugely consequential) stuff. The Fed doesn’t bomb anything, invade anything, or even tax anything.

            The fatal flaw in Griffin’s analysis and breathless fear-mongering is, as is the case with so many prevalent conspiracy theories, that it takes a grain of truth and turns it into a salt mine of utterly laughable BS.

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/26/the-story-behind-the-creature-from-jekyll-island-the-anti-fed-conspiracy-theory-bible.html

            The US government is in debt to the tune of more than $19.5+ trillion because CONGRESS is grossly profligate and financially irresponsible and that has nothing to do with the Federal Reserve, its operations, its policies, or its structure.

          • RedPillPlease

            You’re a complete waste of time and I’m not going to waste any more of mine dealing with such a radical propagandist who’s completely ignorant of the Federal Reserve, which is neither federal nor does it have any reserves.

            Don’t respond!

          • socalbeachdude

            I am one of the few highly knowledgeable people on the Federal Reserve in the United States and have written a great deal about it and your assertions as well as those of that inane and bogus book are totally bogus.

            The Federal Reserve has been very conservative in its creation of money (unlike the People’s Bank of China which is the most egregious money printer in the world by far) and its balance sheet is now only about$4.4 trillion while supporting the largest economy in the world.

            The Federal Reserve has done an absolutely superb job of managing the money supply and monetary policy in the US over the past 101 years during which time the US has become the biggest economy in the world and the wealthiest country in the world with over $180 trillion in assets which are offset by only about $60 trillion in debt resulting in around $120 trillion in net aggregate assets in the US..

            Without the Federal Reserve and its monetary policy and influence over the past, the US would still be the irrelevant backwater banana republic that it was back in 1913 as opposed to the economic superpower of the world – by far – with the world’s reserve currency used in 85% of all global transactions and the wealthiest nation in the world with over $180 trillion in assets.

            The Federal Reserve has an excellent web site which explains all of the operations, functions, and details about the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve Act and anyone wanting to learn more about the Federal Reserve can peruse all of that information including their fully audited and highly detailed independently audited annual financial reports as well as a wealth of other information and statistics at:

            http://www.FederalReserve.gov

            The U.S. Federal Reserve Bank – How it Works, and What it Does – Money, Dollars, & Currency

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1OJlJ9COg0

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Well said !!!

          • Jerry C

            I don’t think he’s ignorant of the Federal Reserve; he just agrees with tyranny.

          • socalbeachdude

            There is no “tyranny” associated with the Federal Reserve which is MERELY A CENTRAL BANK and a very excellent central bank and nothing else and is totally apolitical. The biggest issues facing the Federal Reserve is the 3 mandates that were amended onto the Federal Reserve Act in 1977 by Congress.

            That amendment dictates that the Fed “promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices and moderate long-term interest rates.” That balance between modest inflation and low unemployment is, in essence, the purpose of the Fed — not to make sure your savings account yields 5%.

            The fact of the matter is that actual unemployment fully measured is now around 32% and not the 5% determined by the BLS using the U-3 metric which totally ignores the nearly 100,000,0000 people fully eligible for the work force who are presently not working in the US.

            The Federal Reserve ONLY SETS 3 INTEREST RATES and none of those 3 have anything at all to do with employment, inflation, or other interest rates that matter in the US economy as all interest rates that do matter in the US economy are keyed off the yields (interest rates) set in the nearly $13 trillion a year US Treasuries markets.

            The only 3 rates that the Federal Reserve is involved with setting are:

            1) Federal Discount Rate – currently 1.00%

            2) Federal Funds Rate (which it influences) – currently in the range of 0.25% to 0.50%

            3) Federal Reserve IOER (Interest On Excess Reserves) – currently 0.50%

            The IOER (Interest On Excess Reserves) interest rate does have an immediate beneficial impact for banks as it is the interest paid to banks on their excess reserves accounts inside the Federal Reserve and those accounts now have more than $2.5+ trillion sitting in them, and banks were very fortunate to see the interest they received on those DOUBLE on December 16, 2016 from 0.25% to 0.50% and are urging the Federal Reserve to get that increased again by at least 0.25% to 0.50% without any further dawdling or delay as banks need increased income to help profitability this year.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            WELL SAID……..

          • socalbeachdude

            At any price above $456 per ounce gold is preposterously overvalued and that speculative froth will rapidly be blown off the top.

            THE ISSUE IS THE PROPER PRICE OF GOLD.

            An array of reasonable historical metrics can be used to establish the proper price of gold, including:

            1) Its historical mean which would put gold right around $456 per ounce

            2) Its 16:1 historical ratio against silver which would put gold right around $312.00 per ounce based on silver being around $19.50 per ounce

            3) Its inflation adjusted price today from its last stable historical price of $35 per ounce in 1971 which would put gold right around $386 per ounce.

            4) Its current official US government price of $42.22 per ounce which is how the approximately 8200 metric tonnes of US government gold are valued:

            http://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsreports/rpt/goldRpt/current_report.htm

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            We could have printed our own INTEREST FREE MONEY based on the assets of the country ….every business, home, farmland, coal, oil in the ground etc etc etc etc would have backed our currency. Instead the banking cabal organized The Federal Reserve which is not a Reserve and no more Federal than Federal Express…Read book “Creature From Jekyl Island” . The Rothchilds are the original International Bankers.

          • socalbeachdude

            You are obviously not comprehending the CONCEPT OF MONEY which is not a thing but rather a CURRENCY THAT MOVES WITH VELOCITY IN EVERY ECONOMY. That “creature” book is nothing but a bunch of nonsense and is factually wrong in nearly all respects as I detailed in another comment below which I would suggest you read carefully and attempt to comprehend.

            The Federal Reserve does not cost the US government and taxpayers a single penny and in fact is the LARGEST SINGLE PAYER OF REVENUES TO THE US GOVERNMENT each year. REBATES 100% OF ITS ANNUAL PROFITS TO THE US TREASURY after paying its member bank shareholders a modest annual 6% dividend. The Federal Reserve operates essentially as a NOT-FOR-PROFIT ENTITY and rebates 94% of its annual profits to the US Treasury and that has always been the case. The Federal Reserve is now the largest single entity contributor to US government revenues and rebates about $100 billion a year to the US Treasury.

            Deposit put money in banks for the purposes of using that money in their demand deposit (checking) accounts and for the purposes of EARNING INTEREST MONEY on their time deposit (savings) accounts.

            ALL MONEY HAS A TIME VALUE AND THAT TIME VALUE IS CALLED INTEREST and that has always been the case with money.

            There are 3 components to interest rates.

            Interest rates are comprised of:

            1) real rate (typically around 3% historically)

            2) inflation adjustment (now correctly at zero)

            3) risk of default (now rising astronomically)

            The risk of DEFAULT is higher than ever and will continue to rise.

            All currencies including the US dollar are backed by the current and future labor and productivity of their issuing government as well as the current and future assets of that country and its citizens.

            Who owns the Federal Reserve?

            http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

            In summary, The member banks of the Federal Reserve System own 100% of the shares of the Federal Reserve.

            The Federal Reserve does not loan money directly to banks at 0% and never has. The lowest rate the Federal Reserve has ever offered money to banks is 0.75% through the Federal Discount Window at the Federal Discount Rate of 0.75% which was 300% of the rate at which banks could borrow money on an overnight basis from each other through the Federal Funds Rate.

            Moreover, in either case those borrowings were always 1) FULLY COLLATERALIZED, 2) for VERY SHORT TERMS (typically overnight), and 3) COULD ONLY BE USED TO CLEAR TRANSACTION IMBALANCES IN THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM consisting of around 6,200 banks.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            BS……

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            You Got It Right !!!

          • JC Teecher

            Actually it was about 33 AD, when the Redeemer defeated Satan/Death on the Cross. Billery and Odrama’s party of evil doers was defeated, and are just being used to bring about the chastisement of all their followers, be they are doing it willingly and knowingly, or out of ignorance.

          • GSOB

            Genesis 3:15

            There must be war between every form of evil and the children of man

          • Jerry C

            Probably goes back to when Lincoln forced the South to stay in the Union, but why argue?

      • Peter

        Hillary is wearing RED! Awesome!

        • Peter

          She’s so full of sh

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          it hides the blood coming out of whatever

    • socalbeachdude

      Absolutely false. While that may be true of Hellery, it certainly is NOT TRUE regarding Donald Trump.

      Donald Trump is a WONDERFUL AND FINE AMERICAN and we are absolutely delighted that he is willing to sacrifice his valuable time to PUBLIC SERVICE and work hard to help us fix our very broken United States of America.

      WHEN DONALD TRUMP WINS IN A LANDSLIDE VICTORY IN NOVEMBER then the stupid little empty libtoid heads around the country will be exploding like a month’s worth of shootings in Chicago!

      • Peter

        C’mon, man. Get real. San Diego loves you.

        • socalbeachdude

          Donald Trump is the best candidate ever to run for President and will win in November.

          • Peter

            I won’t won’t vote for either of these people. You’re welcome.

          • socalbeachdude

            Your choice, but I am very enthusiastically voting for DONALD TRUMP who will be our next President!

          • GSOB

            You do not appreciate the freedom of expression you have in casting a vote. Many peoples in this world do not have that.
            At least cast a vote…. like they say in exercise…..

            no pain, no gain….
            use it or lose it.

          • Peter

            Oh, I’ll vote. I don’t expect that it means much. And, very unfortunately for all of US, both candidates represent a system of oppression and violence.

          • GSOB

            Yes, to some degree,….. anarchy is not an option.

            Vote

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        you’ve popped out of nowhere spouting these pro Trump statements but I suspect you are a paid troll for either Jeffery Katzenberg, Rob Reiner or George Soros

    • GSOB

      Do not add to God’s word.
      He says we all are unrighteous in ourselves.

      • Peter

        I stated my opinion, I did not attribute anything to God. You did. Apparently you know God a lot better than me.

        • GSOB

          Do you know Him at all? Have you kissed the Son?

          • Peter

            Those who claim to know God and disdain those who do not believe in “their” God are the most dangerous people on Earth.
            I am on the side of Our Mother Earth and all her creatures, including you. Namaste.

          • GSOB

            A simple no would suffice. I worship the Creator, not the creature.

  • df NJ

    If you ever want to take this country back from the international CEOs who run it, this is what we need to do:

    During the Civil War (1861-1865), President Lincoln needed money to finance the War from the North. The Bankers were going to charge him 24% to 36% interest. Lincoln was horrified and went away greatly distressed, for he was a man of principle and would not think of plunging his beloved country into a debt that the country would find impossible to pay back.

    Eventually President Lincoln was advised to get Congress to pass a law authorizing the printing of full legal tender Treasury notes to pay for the War effort. Lincoln recognized the great benefits of this issue. At one point he wrote:

    “(we) gave the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they have ever had – their own paper money to pay their own debts…”

    The Treasury notes were printed with green ink on the back, so the people called them “Greenbacks”.

    Lincoln printed 400 million dollars worth of Greenbacks (the exact amount being $449,338,902), money that he delegated to be created, a debt-free and interest-free money to finance the War. It served as legal tender for all debts, public and private. He printed it, paid it to the soldiers, to the U.S. Civil Service employees, and bought supplies for war.

    Shortly after that happened, The London Times printed the following: “If that mischievous financial policy, which had its origin in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of the civilized governments of the world. The brains and the wealth of all coun­tries will go to North America. That govern­ment must be destroyed, or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.

    They fear us because we can destroy EVERY monarchy on the globe: AMERICA FIRST!!!

    The Bankers obviously understood. The only thing, I repeat, the only thing that is a threat to their power is sovereign governments printing interest-free and debt-free paper money. They know it would break the power of the international Bankers.

    • socalbeachdude

      Your rewrite of history is BEYOND LAUGHABLE, not to mention totally bogus!

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        I recognize your writing style get back on your meds…..

        • socalbeachdude

          What I stated is 100% true, accurate, and correct. Read it again and attempt to understand exactly what I clearly stated.

    • Peter

      Awesome! Don’t ya just love Israel?

      • socalbeachdude

        Israel had nothing whatsoever to do with that.

        • Peter

          Everything is connected.

          • socalbeachdude

            No, everything is NOT “connected” at all.

          • Peter

            Buena suerte, amigo. I must stop this. Peace to you and all you love.

  • socalbeachdude

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  • GSOB

    Trump is doing well in this debate tonight!

    • Peter

      I agree.

  • J B

    What was the point of that debate, apart from getting viewers to watch the Clinton News Network, and why was Holt even there ?

    • Jerry C

      Bread & circuses.

  • Rob, Portland

    Still no massive economic collapse. How is that Shekinah working out?

    • socalbeachdude

      That is in progress right now, Rob!

      Stock markets in turmoil over fears for Germany’s top bank: Billions wiped off the FTSE 100 after Merkel rules out rescue at Deutsche

      The bank has lost more than half its value in the past year as it struggles to cope with low interest rates and sluggish growth, as $30billion was wiped off the FTSE with investors dumping their stocks.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808905/Billions-wiped-FTSE-100-Merkel-rules-rescue-Deutsche-Bank.html

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Shemitah and Jubilee Year Not Over With But Ends In 2017…….After The Election And New Year….Bye Bye

      • socalbeachdude

        What on earth does that have to do with the US economy and massive financial bubbles within the US financial system?

        • GSOB

          God is with us.

    • Jerry C

      …wait for it…wait for it…wait for it…

  • Sarabella

    Absolutely! Trump Won definitely! maybe Trump didn’t Knock her out cold … like we would have wanted him to … But I think … he took the opportunity to show his Kind Steady Side

    which WON many people over to his side … I think Trump WON many New Americans … who are fed up with Career Politicians, who more interested in Globalist Wars … and Career Politicians who are All-Talk & NO ACTION Like Hillary … Trump 2016

    • socalbeachdude

      100% correct and perfectly stated as to exactly what happened tonight in the debate!

      DONALD TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT 2016!

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      TRUMP 2016 !

  • socalbeachdude

    China debt could wreck the global economy: Leading economist warns country could suffer a calamitous slowdown

    Ken Rogoff, the former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, said China could suffer a calamitous slowdown – dragging the rest of the world down with it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808919/China-debt-wreck-global-economy-Leading-economist-warns-country-suffer-calamitous-slowdown.html

  • socalbeachdude

    China facing full-blown banking crisis, world’s top financial watchdog warns

    China has failed to curb excesses in its credit system and faces mounting risks of a full-blown banking crisis, according to early warning indicators released by the world’s top financial watchdog.

    A key gauge of credit vulnerability is now three times over the danger threshold and has continued to deteriorate, despite pledges by Chinese premier Li Keqiang to wean the economy off debt-driven growth before it is too late.

    The Bank for International Settlements warned in its quarterly report that China’s “credit to GDP gap” has reached 30.1, the highest to date and in a different league altogether from any other major country tracked by the institution. It is also significantly higher than the scores in East Asia’s speculative boom on 1997 or in the US subprime bubble before the Lehman crisis.

    China’s total credit reached 255pc of GDP at the end of last year, a jump of 107 percentage points over eight years. This is an extremely high level for a developing economy and is still rising fast .
    Outstanding loans have reached $28 trillion, as much as the commercial banking systems of the US and Japan combined. The scale is enough to threaten a worldwide shock if China ever loses control. Corporate debt alone has reached 171pc of GDP, and it is this that is keeping global regulators awake at night.

    The risk is a violent spike in yields if the pattern should revert to norm, setting off a flight from global bourses. We have had a foretaste of this over recent days. The other grim possibility is that ultra-low yields are instead pricing in a slump in nominal GDP for years to come – effectively a trade depression – and that would be even worse for equities.

    “It is becoming increasingly evident that central banks have been overburdened for far too long,” said Mr Borio.

    The BIS said one troubling development is a breakdown in the relationship between interest rates and currencies in global markets, what it describes as a violation of the iron law of “covered interest parity”.

    Yet it is China that is emerging as the epicentre of risk. The International Monetary Fund warned in June that debt levels were alarming and “must be addressed immediately”, though it is far from clear how the authorities can extract themselves so late in the day.

    The risks are well understood in Beijing. The state-owned People’s Daily published a front-page interview earlier this year from a “very authoritative person” warning that debt had been “growing like a tree in the air” and threatened to engulf China in a systemic financial crisis.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/18/bis-flashes-red-alert-for-a-banking-crisis-in-china/

  • socalbeachdude

    DEUTSCHE BANK Troubles Mount; Shares Slide…

    WORLD OF DEBT…

    Besieged Globalists Ponder What Went Wrong…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/us/politics/globalism-un-assembly-nationalism-populism.html

  • socalbeachdude

    ALL OF THE POLLS RESULTS ARE GOING HUGELY FOR DONALD TRUMP!

    Who cares? AMERICANS CARE.

    DONALD TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT 2016!

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      VOTE TRUMP !!

  • digriff

    The next president is going to inherit the biggest economic problems
    that this nation has ever faced, and it is going to take a miracle of
    Biblical proportions to turn the U.S. economy in the right direction.

    So at a time like this..who do you want at the helm? A billionaire business man, or a corrupt politician?

    • socalbeachdude

      Obviously, DONALD TRUMP is the only correct answer for the next President of the United States and he will do the best he can to guide the country forward.

      • GSOB

        Yes, for now.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      VOTE TRUMP !!!

  • Yanis

    Even russians in Russia Trump winning considered only like as a good joke

    • socalbeachdude

      Huh? The Russians have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with this election in the USA but are under attack by an out of control DEMOCRAT government making up endless lies about Russia and much of that is coming from fools in the Obama administration and from that JACKASS HELLERY PERSON running for President who is headed for a LANDSLIDE DEFEAT.

  • socalbeachdude

    DEBATE RESULTS FOR 1st DEBATE OF TRUMP V FRUMP

    Fortune Trump won by 2%
    Slate Trump won by 9%
    The Hill Trump won by 10%
    AOL Trump won by 11%
    NJ Media Trump won by 14%
    Time Trump won by 21%
    MLive Trump won by 22%
    CNBC Trump won by 23%
    Breitbart Trump won by 25%
    Right Scoop Trump won by 56%
    Drudge Trump won by 80%
    PPP Clinton won by 11%
    CNN Clinton won by 34%

    DRUDGE DEBATE POLL FOR FIRST DEBATE

    Thank you for voting!

    TRUMP 80% (207,492 votes)

    CLINTON 20% (51,862 votes)

    Total Votes: 259,354

    And that’s a wrap, folks!!!

  • socalbeachdude

    HELLERY PLUMMETS INTO ABYSS AFTER NASTY LYING DEBATE BS…

    POST DEBATE POLL SHOCKER=> Hillary Takes 4th Place in ABC News Poll Behind Jill Stein, Gary Johnson

    Donald Trump is leading Hillary Clinton in several post debate polls.

    Trump leads Hillary Clinton 81% to 18% in The Drudge Report poll.

    Trump also led Hillary Clinton in the:

    TIME Poll
    Breitbart Poll
    CNBC Poll

    Voters clearly thought Trump held his ground tonight in the first presidential debate.

    The ABC News poll is the real shocker…

    Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton – and so do Jill Stein and Gary Johnson!

    Hillary is in 4th place!

    http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/abc-poll-debate-575×258.jpg

  • Priszilla

    They were bickering like in Kindergarten. Neither has any plan.
    #OccupyTheDebate

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Trump has a plan and he repeats it at packed out wall to wall rally’s…..3 cities per day 3 rallies per day….he covers immigration, borders (the wall ), muslims (no more), Trade agreements Nafta Gott Cafta all will be renegotiated !, TPP will NOT be passed, factories back to U.S. with an IMPORT TAX, Jobs Jobs Jobs, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc open your eyes ya might see something…….

      Trump For Whitehouse !!!

      Hillary For Jailhouse !!!

      • Priszilla

        Every people has the government they deserve.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          We DESERVED Obama, We DESERVE Hillary But We” Pray To God ” For Trump To Be The Next President !!!!

          VOTE TRUMP

          • Priszilla

            You deserve trump. Enjoy.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            So Does Hillary Deserve Trump !!! As Trump Will Assign A Special Prosecutor To Bring Her To Justice !!!

          • Priszilla

            Unless the people vote for Stein. The establishment is so afraid of her that they don’t mention her on any of the state media.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            All Those Pro-Abortion Are Already Born !

  • tsf

    Holt is liberal.
    Hillary gets a pass on some real issues – her monstrous criminality.
    Trump was somewhat lackluster, and a bit of a one-string fiddle.

    Hillary won the rhetorical debate with a lot of help from her friends.
    Trump won the common sense debate.

    Hillary is a permanent fixture in the right-left wing establishment.
    Trump is a maverick who can’t do all the things he wants (and we need) due to lack of cooperation from con-gress. But he could at least slow down the bleeding.

    Trump is by far our best alternative. And I would by far prefer a thuggish New York patriot to a diabolical witch.

  • goldminer

    I think Mr. Trump did very well considering he was debating 2 people. Trump had Hilary rocking back on her heels in the first half. When Lester Holt saw her faltering, possibly you could even call it a Collapse. He came to her rescue and started hard ballingTrump and soft balling Hillary. I mean really. What did the birther issue have to do with the debate? It was settled a while ago. Where were the questions about Emails, Benghazi? You know things Americans would like to hear about.
    Considering Mr. Trump was having a 2 against one debate. He stood strong.

    • TrollingforTrolls

      Absolutely agree and well said!

  • Tatisns

    Something just isn’t right, after being reported to be seriously ill after her 9/11 medical episode. Is it just me or is there something very troubling about the way Hillary, can appear on the verge of death one moment them somehow seem to appear “glamour shot moment” rejuvenated,similar to vampires regain their strength after feeding on a victims blood. Where were here glasses? Something seemed very theatrical almost surreal about her. If they have cloned sheep, they are pushing to clone people also. It is all very unsettling.

    • ALWAYSTOMORROW

      Maybe she wasn’t as sick as you though. Maybe you, like many, read something sinister into everything you don’t completely understand.

      • HeyAHuman

        It was 90 minutes. Any used car salesman can jerry-rig and spruce up a jalopy temporarily so that it can be sold.

    • socalbeachdude

      Lots of makeup and drugs can temporarily do that. The problem is that it all melts off stage and the issues return.

      MEDICAL MIRACLE: SHE STANDS FOR 90 MINUTES!

      http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/in-debate-two-the-questions-are-on-the-ballot/501791/

  • mtntrek3

    Clinton/Trump headaches are the worst. 100 minutes of no genuine answers to the ailing economy, or anything else. I say we need two new candidates. Ahh well….. , sigh. Politics and what is happening overall in the world is depressing. Onto an uplifting and encouraging note…… God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, whomever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Woohooo! Now that’s some good news. 🙂 .

    • greanfinisher .

      Did you really expect answers from those two stooges?

      • mtntrek3

        Stooges is right. No, I didn’t. I was listening to 780 WBBM out of Chicago when the debate, or debacle started. I figured it was on most every station…… so I went ahead and listen in. Well, just headache material to me.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Hillary Will Put The Lights Out On This Country……..

          • JC Teecher

            Hellery, just may be God’s answer to idiots that have been blessed way beyond their comprehension, forgiveness, and Thankfulness.

      • mtntrek3

        Guess my reply is being held hostage again. ? Anyway, Yep, they’re both stooges. No, I didn’t expect anything helpful from either one. I was listening to the news on 780 WBBM out of Chicago when the debacle started. I figured it’d be on most every station, so I listened in. A headache was the result.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Trump Is No Stooge He Is America First !!! anti NAFTA anti TPP…..and wants the factories back but first NO MORE factories leaving U.S. for China or Mexico.

          • mtntrek3

            How’s your kidney issue Bill? Better I hope.

          • socalbeachdude

            Correct.

    • socalbeachdude

      The economy was barely even mentioned during the debate last night, but the problems are vast and intractable and certainly are not going to be solved in any debate particularly when the participants – not to mention Congress, the administration, and economists – cannot even agree on what the problems are, let alone solutions.

      • mtntrek3

        The big reasons corporations go overseas to me are: 1. Higher pay scale overall here than other countries. 2. More EPA reg’s here, so the companies have to pay out more to dispose of wastes properly. Cheaper to go elsewhere and just pollute the crap out of the environment than process wastes properly. 3. No workman’s compensation/ other labor rules/reg’s to deal with. Go elsewhere…….. work your employees to death nearly 24/7 without concern for their safety/wellbeing in general while making your product. If they get injured on the job…… tough. Sling ’em out the door and grab another one. 4. Avoiding taxation. Hey, no one enjoys being taxed, but we should pay what we can. Avoiding it altogether? Not right. There are other reasons to add I’m sure, all this to me goes back to greed. There are some companies big and small that stay here and do what they can to create jobs for our people. Good for them. They remain a minority sadly.

        • socalbeachdude

          Yes, and given the regulatory burdens and costs in the US it is VERY STUPID for any manufacturer to even consider making anything in the US these days that can’t be made in another country. That has been the case for a very long time (over the past 40 years) but the US is still the second largest manufacturing country in the world. No business would for “altruistic” or paternalistic interests consider manufacturing in the US.

          The only hope of changing this situation is VERY STIFF TARIFFS ON FOREIGN GOODS MADE ABROAD BY FOREIGN OR US COMPANIES and Donald Trump will help to make that a reality wen (not if) he becomes President of the USA.

          • mtntrek3

            Tariffs will raise the price on most items, further hurting the consumers. Some regulations I admit need cut back……. on the environment for example. Still, we can’t compete with what companies find overseas, ie.- few to no labor rules, lower labor costs, few to no environmental reg’s… etc.

        • df NJ

          Honestly, you comments are very uneducated. All our factories leaving this country as to do with one thing and one thing only. The Chinese have pegged the Yuan to the dollar 6 to 1. This means a CEO gets 6 Chinese worker for every one American worker. It has nothing to do with reasons you outlined.

          The problem now in the country is the CEOs have raised prices as if the worker making the median wage still had union wages. No factory workers means no customers. Now that everyone is tapped out on credit, no savings, and low paying jobs we should see tons of deflation over the next few years.

          • mtntrek3

            Yes…… the companies find cheaper labor in China and elsewhere. Not to mention few if any environmental reg’s, lax labor rules if any, etc. You mentioned CEO’s. Their pay is greater in difference to the worker’s pay than ever. Greed.

          • socalbeachdude

            Your assertions are absolutely ABSURD and show you do not even being to comprehend currency exchange rates. The Japanese yen exchange rate is now around 102 yen per US dollar. Exchange rates have nothing whatsoever to do with your bizarre and false assertion that “This means a CEO gets 6 Chinese worker for every one American worker.”

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Vote Trump….

    • df NJ

      I wish God so loved the world that he stepped in and prevented the 40 million people from dying in WWII. If not then, then when?

      • mtntrek3

        One happy day man will learn war no more. Until then…….. we will have wars, diseases, famines, earthquakes, floods, droughts, etc. sadly. All of creation groans in travail for now. We need to get or keep our faith in Christ for sure. One day….. God will make things right.

  • DB200

    Has anybody been following what is happening to Deutsche Bank?

    • socalbeachdude

      Nothing has “happened” to Deutsche Bank at all. The only news related to them is that Angela Merkel made a statement that the Germany would not bail them out and that there was no need to even consider that just as Germany’s Finance Minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, has made very clear this year.

      All European bank shares are falling and that is due to substantial perceived risk of losses in the European banking system and the shares of Deutsche Bank have fallen around 50% this year and are currently trading at €10.60 today which is equivalent to around $11.87 per share.

      • df NJ

        LIke all banks, they will get bailed out, lay off 20% of the workforce, and probably be merged into another bank, and then all the IT people will be fired and all the DB data centers will be closed after the account data is moved.

        • socalbeachdude

          NEIN, NEIN, NEIN. There will be no “bailout” of Deutsche Bank and no bailout is needed for Deutsche Bank.

  • think

    She stands for 90 minutes. Look at her legs. Both legs look weak in her stand. I can only bet that she will once again have troubles with her health until the next debate. If those complications in the past were real, they will not just go away.

    • goldminer

      Yeah. They sure rushed her out of the place, to that big truck that looked like a black ambulance, in a hurry. As usual she would not talk to reporters like Mr. Trump spent quite a bit of time doing. Even tho he has been pretty harsh on the press.
      Hillary must be afraid of falling down. It is well known Hillary cant think on her feet.

  • socalbeachdude

    Absolutely false and just more nonsense.

    Executive Order 11110 had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the Federal Reserve. I would suggest you read about and attempt to comprehend what that very limited Executive Order 11110 was specifically about. All it dealt with was the issuance of further US Dollar SILVER CERTIFICATES and nothing else at all.

    The only thing JFK signed in relationship to US dollars in Silver Certificate form was Executive Order 11110 was issued by U.S. President John F. Kennedy on June 4, 1963 and which was not in any way consequential at all.

    This executive order delegated to the Secretary of the Treasury the president’s authority to issue silver certificates under the Thomas Amendment of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, as amended by the Gold Reserve Act. The order allowed the Secretary to issue silver certificates, if any were needed, during the transition period under President Kennedy’s plan to eliminate Silver Certificates and use Federal Reserve Notes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

    The Federal Reserve has done an absolutely superb job of managing the money supply and monetary policy in the US over the past 100+ years during which time the US has become the biggest economy in the world and the wealthiest country in the world with over $180 trillion in assets which are offset by only about $60 trillion in debt resulting in around $120 trillion in net aggregate assets in the US..

    Without the Federal Reserve and its monetary policy and influence over the past, the US would still be the irrelevant backwater banana republic that it was back in 1913 as opposed to the economic superpower of the world – by far – with the world’s reserve currency used in 85% of all global transactions and the wealthiest nation in the world with over $180 trillion in assets.

    The Federal Reserve has an excellent web site which explains all of the operations, functions, and details about the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve Act and anyone wanting to learn more about the Federal Reserve can peruse all of that information including their fully audited and highly detailed independently audited annual financial reports as well as a wealth of other information and statistics at their excellent web site at:

    http://www.FederalReserve.gov

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    who knew Sargent Munch was such a prolific historian

  • James Staten

    Hillary convinced me to vote for Trump. I believe she stated recently that no former President endorses him. Need I say more?

  • JC Teecher

    Things I trust more than Hillary Clinton:
    * Mexican tap water
    * A rattle snake with a “pet me” sign
    * O,J. Simpson showing me his knife collection
    * A fart when I have diarrhea
    * An elevator ride with Ray Rice
    * Taking pills offered by Bill Cosby
    * Michael Jackson’s doctor
    * An Obama nuclear deal with Iran
    * Gas station sushi
    * A Jimmy Carter economic plan
    * A cigar in Bill Clintons’ hand
    * Brian Williams news reports
    * Loch Ness monster sightings
    * Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton
    and …last but not least Colin Kaepernick’s “chances” at getting picked by
    any NFL Team as a free agent.

    • socalbeachdude

      Indeed.

    • df NJ

      An egg salad sandwich from a gas station vending machine.

  • ALWAYSTOMORROW

    COUNTDOWN. Today, September 27, 2016. In 41 days I predict Mrs. Clinton will be our next president.

    • goldminer

      Yes if so. War on Russia and China will be her greatest achevement yet.
      Better start building your bomb shelter.

      • socalbeachdude

        Nobody would even consider playing that game.

        • df NJ

          Hillary is a leading member of the CFR so I imagine she will bomb Iran as they’ve been advocating for 20 years. The price of oil MUST go up!!!

          • socalbeachdude

            No, there will be no “bombing of Iran” at all over the coming years regardless of who is elected President.

        • goldminer

          “Nobody in their right mind would even consider playing that game”
          There I fixed it for you:)
          Unfortunately Hillary is phychotic and horrible war monger. Her record as Secretary of State clearly shows that.
          Putin on the other hand is deadly serious. He has already threatened to go nuclear in Syria. If Saudi Arabia sent troops that they were massing in Turkey in. The west backed down. But.
          Both US and Russia have plenty of nukes in the area and ready to go at it.

    • socalbeachdude

      Laughably false. Donald Trump WON THE DEBATE in a landslide victory and WILL BECOME OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.

      DEBATE RESULTS FOR FIRST DEBATE OF TRUMP V FRUMP

      Fortune Trump won by 2%
      Slate Trump won by 9%
      The Hill Trump won by 10%
      AOL Trump won by 11%
      NJ Media Trump won by 14%
      Time Trump won by 21%
      MLive Trump won by 22%
      CNBC Trump won by 23%
      Breitbart Trump won by 25%
      Right Scoop Trump won by 56%
      Drudge Trump won by 80%
      PPP Clinton won by 11%
      CNN Clinton won by 34%

      DRUDGE RESULTS FOR FIRST DEBATE

      TRUMP 82.24% (820,814 votes)

      CLINTON 17.76% (177,211 votes)

      Total Votes: 998,025

      New UPI Voter Polls: Trump Up in VA, FL, IA, OH, NC and PA.

      Clearly Hillary lost the debate.

      The debate did move the needle.

      NEW POLLS: TRUMP +4 VIRGINIA, +2 FLORIDA, +2 IOWA

      • df NJ

        Mother Jones: Hillary won

        Communist Daily: Hillary won

        MSNBC: Hillary won

        The Young Turks: Hillary won

        The Democratic Underground: Hillary won

        Polls do not matter. Whoever counts the votes in the state legislation decides the election. Now even though the Koch brothers own every state legislation in the country they do not like Trump.

        • socalbeachdude

          Next you’ll be telling me the new Black Panthers poll rated Hellery higher!!! With a list like you provided above that pretty much TOTALLY DOOMS HELLERY as a bizarre radical FRINGE CANDIDATE.

        • natxlaw

          really, citing Mother Jones against CNBC

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      VOTE TRUMP….the last hope !

    • JC Teecher

      Countdown to China getting a share of the world exchange funds market, aka Petro dollars……
      2 days.

      Countdown to the end of the only Jubilee year; most, if not all Americans will see in their lifetime………..
      12 days

      Countdown to many democrats, like the Clinton immunity staff, and Tim Kaine, needing to look for new jobs come Jan 1st.
      40 days and counting.

      Don’t forget the sell outs, James Comey and Loretta Lynch.

      • socalbeachdude

        There is no such thing as the “petrodollar” and oil only accounts for LESS THAN 7% OF GLOBAL TRADE in which the US dollar is used and total transactions in US dollars accounts for more than 83% of all global trade.

        There is no “Jubilee year” at all.

        As to your third prediction, yep!

  • socalbeachdude

    JUST HOW PSYCHO CRAZY IS THIS CROOKED HELLERY WITCH?

    Clinton’s Crazy Putin Conspiracy Theory

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/08/28/clintons-crazy-conspiracy-theory/

    Clinton Takes Russia-Bashing To New Level – Fails

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/clinton-takes-russia-bashing-to-new.html

  • df NJ

    How is it even possible Hillary is not indicted for anything?

  • df NJ

    All our factories leaving this country as to do with one thing and one thing only. The Chinese have pegged the Yuan to the dollar 6 to 1. This means a CEO gets 6 Chinese worker for every one American worker. It has nothing to do with reasons you outlined. Even if we paid off the entire national debt and every worker had a college degree it would not matter.

    The problem now in the country is the CEOs have raised prices as if the worker making the median wage still had union wages. No factory workers means no customers. Now that everyone is tapped out on credit, no savings, and low paying jobs we should see tons of deflation over the next few years.

    Speaking of deflation, I still expect to see $20/barrel oil soon.

    $105/barrel in 2014. $45/barrel in 2016. We are still waiting for the dead cat bounce to fall.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      A tariff on imports will help level the playing field…..The National Debt cannot be paid off as there would be no cash left to circulate AS MONEY IS BORROWED INTO EXISTENCE on this designed for doom Federal Reseve System.

      • socalbeachdude

        No, money is not borrowed into existence at all and money repaid on debts is REINVESTED OR LOANED TO NEW BORROWERS.

        • df NJ

          When you consider fiat money what you saying is not true.

          • socalbeachdude

            Absolutely false.

    • socalbeachdude

      You are apparently very confused about currency exchange rates and the nominal values of currencies. The relationship of the number of renminbi (RMB / yuan) has nothing whatsoever to do with the number of Chinese workers to US workers. The exchange rate of yen in Japan is around 102 yen for every US dollar. The renminbi has an essential peg to the US dollar but is allowed to flat within a tight range against the US dollar.

      The big issue with the renminbi is that it is EGREGIOUSLY AND MASSIVELY OVERPRINTED relative to the US dollar as China has increased its money supply by more than $30 trillion over the past 10 years to now around $33 trillion from only around $3 trillion and that was done on the back of the US dollar due to their peg to the US dollar. China’s money is now essentially MONOPOLY MONEY WITH LITTLE FUNDAMENTAL VALUE AT ALL and its economy is about half the size of the US economy which only has a money supply of around $13 trillion in M2.

      Most of this money in China has been loaned out and there is a MASSIVE BUBBLE that was created as a result particularly in the real estate and stock markets and throughout the entire huge shadow banking industry and trillion of dollars of debt have gone bad with at least $6 trillion of debt that will go bad very soon.

      China’s richest man warns of ‘the biggest bubble in history’

      Chinese billionaire Wang Jianlin, whose vast property and entertainment empire reportedly brought in $44 billion in revenue last year, appeared on CNN Wednesday to warn about what lies ahead for the country’s overheated real-estate market.

      Wang Jianlin: It’s the biggest bubble in history… I don’t see a good solution to this problem. The government has come up with all sorts of measures — limiting purchase or credit — but none have worked.

      Jianlin pointed to the troubling fact that real estate prices just keep rising in the major cities, like Shanghai and Beijing, while falling across the rest of the country, where smaller cities are littered by properties that lie vacant.

      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-richest-man-warns-of-the-biggest-bubble-in-history-2016-09-28

      • df NJ

        I purchase products from China all the time. A dollar is a unit labor cost. You have no idea what you are talking about.

        • socalbeachdude

          Absolutely false. The exchange rate is NOT A UNIT LABOR COST AT ALL and the exchange rate with the Japanese yen and the US dollar is currently around 102 which does not mean that the unit labor costs in Japan is 1/100th of the US dollar any more than the renminbi (RMB / yuan) exchange rate of around 6 renminbi to $1.00 means that the “unit labor cost” is 1/6 of that of the US. Labor costs in China are indeed significantly less than in China and the only way to deal with that in trade is through TARIFFS.

      • jakartaman

        Do not try to fix it – its impossible
        NJ is in the process of matriculating

        • socalbeachdude

          The situation with China will be fixed with a huge collapse in its massive bubbles and corresponding massive write down and write off of debt and asset valuations.

  • alan

    I would expect your 401k’s to take a hit around about 9 November.

  • May 7, 2016 TRUMP: The NWO Cabal’s Nuclear Option—To Declare A US, Inc. Bankruptcy

    The Donald is the TRUMP Card of the International Banking Cartel There is no other way out for the bankrupt U.S. Corporation except an “Orderly Default”?

    http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=37500

    • socalbeachdude

      Absolutely false. The United States of America is not a corporation at all and there is no provision whatsoever in the federal bankruptcy code for any state or the federal government to declare bankruptcy. I would suggest you lean about the federal bankruptcy laws and what the various provided chapters are. There is zero chance of any default by the US government on any of its debt.

      Total debt, however, in the US is more than $64 trillion and most of that is applicable for bankruptcy protection with subsequent losses to creditors.

      • df NJ

        There is a critical point when the interest payment of the national debt is more than the amount the government receives in taxes.

        • socalbeachdude

          That will obviously NEVER OCCUR and the current amount of the annual federal budget paid for interest is around 6% and even if that rises over the coming years it certainly will never rise to the level of tax revenues but it could rise to around 20% of US government tax revenues which would cause significant issues and a vastly increasing federal deficit depending on how high the yields on US Treasuries (government debt) rises.

  • Jerry

    I am surprised to not see a new column by you in the days since the debate. Your first three points were ignored during the debate. Many of the ones that followed, I agree are important. Regarding the US debate, Reagan nearly doubled it during his 8 yrs in office. It required George HW Bush to follow him, with additional debt, to actually double it. Then between 2001-2008, GW Bush doubles the debt. This is at a time when the economy is growing, and hence the debt should decrease (like it did in 2000 under a former president). One cannot deny that Obama has doubled the national debt. But he is NOT the first president to do so. Why were points 1-3 ignored, because it is business as usual. Will the “King of Debt” fix this? Well, I’ll let you render the opinion.

    • Jerry

      I’m sorry for the typo. On line 4, it should be “US deficit”, not ‘US debate”.

      • df NJ

        Your post made more sense with “US debate”.

    • socalbeachdude

      At no time has the US federal defect decreased by having a surplus since 1956. During the Clinton years all that happened was a decrease of the deficit but there was always a deficit in each and every year from 1992 though 2000 and the biggest reason for the decrease was the Republic Congress spearheaded by Newt Gingrich who forced federal government spending lower.

      During the nearly 8 Obama years the national debt has risen by nearly $10 trillion to more than $19.5 trillion and that increase is about the same amount as the prior federal debt run up over the past 240 years of the USA.

    • df NJ

      Debt is meaningless unless you consider it as a percentage of GDP. The same way how much you pay in taxes is irrelevant unless you also take into account the purchasing power of your take home pay. The level of math illiteracy in this country is truly stunning!

  • SnodtBlossom

    I’m female you FOOL

    • BS1986

      Go change your tampon.

      • SnodtBlossom

        Is that the retarded f u can do?

        • BS1986

          I think it fits honestly……..you strike me as the feminist type who should change it.

  • JC Teecher

    A vote for liberalism, is a vote against God,……..100%

    To be on the wrong side of your Creator, that formed you from the beginning, is not a good place to be.

    Just sayin’

    • df NJ

      Evil is always where you least expect it.

  • df NJ

    The US military dropped 23,000 bombs on five predominately Muslim countries in 2015. Maybe it’s time to return to a more conservative foreign policy. Maybe it’s time to close our 700+ foreign military bases and stop subsidizing foreign governments with national debt. AMERICA FIRST!

  • mtntrek3

    While I’ve voted for H in the primaries (regretting that now)…….. how did we get to the point of these two as our choices??? And, I’m sorry for my vote. Guess I’m part of the problem. Oh, for two other candidates.

    • df NJ

      Citizen’s United ruling allows the Federal Reserve to print any amount of money necessary to make sure candidates that are favorable to the Federal Reserve win the primaries.

      • socalbeachdude

        Absolutely false and the Federal Reserve does not do that and has nothing whatsoever to do with politics in any manner.

      • mtntrek3

        This money we carry around is basically worthless. One day we won’t be able to bluff ourselves and others round the world that it still has value.

        • socalbeachdude

          Absolutely false. The US dollar is what makes the world economies work and is by far the most important currency in the entire world and is becoming worth more all the time as deflation sets in on general prices.

          • mtntrek3

            The debt, public and private is what I’m referring to. We just keep on printing more money all the time ……. while our debt public/private keeps on growing. One day, we won’t even be able to pay the interest on the debt. For now oil is pegged on the dollar. OPEC and Russia for example are getting uneasy about this and of course they don’t like it in general. The dollar and it’s instability goes back to the Nixon days and being taken off the gold standard. Even further back to W.Wilson and the start of the Fed. Look at other countries that have resorted to over printing of their currency. It didn’t end well. One day it’ll be the same here for us.

          • socalbeachdude

            Nope.

          • mtntrek3

            As you wish. You know, I truly hope we would carry on as the leader in the world and the best place to be worldwide, but we are failing. Failure in many ways. Reach out for God. He’s our hope worldwide.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      YUP you are !!! and you voted for a “OK TO KILL BABIES CANDIDATE” how Satan must have loved it !

      • mtntrek3

        Yep, I’m Satan incarnate………. I’m a baby killer. Whatever slick. You have a good day. Whew. Wow. I guess I’ve been voted off this website. Oh well.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Chris,
          You are not Satan Incarnate……But He Tricked You….As I Have Said Before There Is Only ONE Candidate That Will Turn Back ‘ The Abomination ” Of ABORTION His Name is Trump.

          VOTE TRUMP

          • mtntrek3

            Satan can deceive all of us. Jesus rebuked Peter at one point. I know I don’t have to recite the Scripture. You know which instance I’m talking about. Paul even corrected Peter in another case. ……. Even Paul admitted to his failings in respect to God’s will in his life. I’m not even close to the Godly status of any of the Apostles, nor any of the great Christians of our time. I’m trying to do better…….. while I know I still have quite some ways to go. I regret voting for H, but can’t see T. That’s why I’ve said I wish we had two different candidates to vote for. I don’t agree w/ every stance of the Dem’s, nor do I agree w/ every stance of the Rep’s. . Anyway, politics is headache material overall to me. There are some out there in the mess that is that are doing what they can for the better of the country, but I believe they get drowned out by the majority sadly. SLFN . Chris.

      • mtntrek3

        My response is being held hostage once again. Not sure that I’ll be back to this site. I agree w/ most everything here from Michael and from several commenters, you included Bill. I’ve already been over my stance on abortion, Bill. You believe that it should NEVER be performed. I happen to think maybe it should be in some cases……… even then I think it’s a very sad and tragic thing. Let’s say you have a daughter that is raped and becomes pregnant. Would you want her to have the child? I already mentioned some other cases such as incest, severe deformities of the child, danger to life of the mother, etc. Call me what you like if that makes you happy. I’m a sinner saved by the grace of God through His Son Jesus. That’s what I am and I’m very thankful for God’s mercy. Hope you’re doing better w/your kidney problem…. best wishes and good day. Chris.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Chris, When you voted to nominate Hillary you nominated a ” Under ANY Condition Kill The Baby Candidate!!!!….. Hillary is part of the Political System that takes your tax dollars and pays for all abortions NO QUESTIONS ASKED !!!

          Gee I Got A Headache ‘ Abort the baby”
          Gee I Forgot My Birth Control Pills ” Abort The Baby”
          Gee I Didnt Know You Could Get Pregnant From That ” Abort the Baby ”
          Ad Nauseum….”Abort The Baby”

  • natxlaw

    Michael, there have been some big items in the past 24 hours, the presidential veto was overidden and the Saudis promised to liquidate their treasuries if that happened. You on this bro?

    • socalbeachdude

      Saudi Arabia owned very little in the way of US Treasuries and it doesn’t matter a hoot what they do with them, but the fact is that they need them to support LETTERS OF CREDIT for their oil trade and they would be hard pressed to find any acceptable replacement for them.

      Saudi Arabia ONLY OWNS $117 BILLION OF US TREASURIES (government debt) and not $1 trillion at all.

      U.S. Discloses Saudi Holdings of Treasuries for First Time

      Treasury Says Saudis Hold $117B of US Debt…

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-16/u-s-discloses-saudi-arabia-s-treasuries-holdings-for-first-time

      Total outstanding US government debt in US Treasuries is over $19.5 trillion and $117 billion is like a ROUNDING ERROR and of no significance whatsoever. The annual US Treasuries market is a $12.8 trillion a year market and more than $7 trillion in NEW US TREASURIES are issued each year and US Treasuries are the MOST LIQUID BOND MARKET IN THE WORLD.

  • Cugel the Clever

    Erm… The debate was three nights ago.

    • socalbeachdude

      This article was written one day prior to the debate.

      • Cugel the Clever

        My point is that it’s time for a new article.

        • ALWAYSTOMORROW

          I believe Michael may have been taken hostage and has become the victim of creepy clown foul play.

          • Teresa F

            That’s very funny!

  • df NJ

    Politics of inclusion:

    “Raise your hand, Christian conservatives everybody,” Trump said, drawing a smattering of cheers and raised arms.
    And then, he added: “Raise your hand if you’re not a Christian conservative, I want to see this, right. That’s — oh, there’s a couple, but that’s all right. I think we’ll keep them right? Should we keep them in the room, yes? I think so.”

  • Sep 28, 2016 Fascist Trump Versus Communist Killary Battle on a Sinking Ship

    https://youtu.be/yOgS74HJ8eg

    • df NJ

      Hillary is not a communist. Sanders is the communist. Hillary is a Nixon Republican. Corrupt as Satan with no moral bearings.

      • socalbeachdude

        The evil old witch Hellery has never been noted for being very bright. In fact, Hellery, has always been incredibly arrogantly sloppy with everything she’s done going right back to the Watergate Commission from which she was fired. “I think Hillary has always been sloppy about following the rules. She thinks she is above the rules, and that’s what this demonstrates as a person that thinks that rules don’t apply to her. That was true when she was the First Lady under [Bill] Clinton; it was true while she was the senator, and it bespeaks a character flaw which I think most Americans find distasteful.” – Dave Lindorff

        Folks need to start paying attention to what Hellery is really all about and that is being a VICIOUS OPPORTUNIST at every step of the way in her power-grabbing career.

        Hellery was originally a GOLDWATER REPUBLICAN and worked for the Barry Goldwater campaign in the 1960s before being FIRED.

        From Goldwater Girl in the 1960s to soon to be INDICTED CRIMINAL in 2016…

        Hellery has ALWAYS BEEN FLIPFLOPPING.

        She started out as a REPUBLICAN PARTY HACK.

        Raised in a politically conservative household, Rodham (Hellery) helped canvass Chicago’s South Side at age thirteen following the very close 1960 U.S. presidential election, where she found evidence of electoral fraud against Republican candidate Richard Nixon. She then volunteered to campaign for Republican candidate Barry Goldwater in the U.S. presidential election of 1964. Rodham’s early political development was shaped most by her high school history teacher (like her father, a fervent anticommunist), who introduced her to Goldwater’s The Conscience of a Conservative…

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

        As to Hellery, when she LIES LIKE A RUG, how would she know which side is ever up or what she previously said or what ever actually happened?

        HUMA: HILLARY ‘OFTEN CONFUSED’…

        http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-email-reveals-top-aide-huma-abedin-warning-state-department-staffer-that-hillary-clinton-is-often-confused/

        • df NJ

          I just guessed she was based on her politics. I didn’t know it was actually true!

    • socalbeachdude

      Nope. There is not “fascist” at all about Donald Trump.

  • df NJ

    Maybe it’s time for right wing military style dictatorship in this country. Everyone hates Congress. Everyone loves the military. At least with a dictatorship things will finally get done. Congress never does anything.

  • alan

    Kind off topic, I am wondering if Barry Soetoro will pardon Hillary on his way out the door? I suspect we may see a lot of shenanigans on his way out.

    • df NJ

      How come there’s no outrage when Republican presidents leave office and issue a bunch of pardons? I think if you for the rule-of-law or you are a partisan anarchist where the ends justify the means.

  • JC Teecher

    We have all been trumped and bullery’ed, to death with this topic. Michael and his family are possibly on a vacation. Hopefully they are all well and prayers can’t hurt.

    So I ran across an article about Adult Mandated Vaccinations, and this following question and answer got my attention, after reading about the ten mega Corporations, that control almost everything we eat and drink.

    I am addicted to Sudoku, a pattern recognition game, I’m really good at solving puzzles. Q: What is the common pattern of all these things: GMO’s / glyphosate & agrichemicals, vaccines, chemtrails, fluoridation,the cancer industry? A: They all introduce substances into the human biome that creates chronic damage, reduces human life span and enriches corporations at both ends (cause and treatment); also, these things are increasingly hard to avoid and beyond local control. It’s hard to conceive that humans are in charge of slowly, coldly decimating their own species, even given rapacious capitalism. This is the how COLONIES are treated: suck the resources out of the economy and reduce, eliminate or profit off of the leftover human “liabilities”.

    “The universe is not stranger than you imagine. It is stranger than you CAN imagine.”

    • goldminer

      Yup big agriculture and big pharmaceutical walk hand and hand. This is proven by the recent merger of Monsatin and Bayer, They grow food that makes you sick. Then sell you drugs that don’t cure you but make you feel good about dying slow. They strip you of your wealth from cradle to grave.
      You can eliminate a lot of chemicals and GMOs out of your life by going organic. It cost a little more but tastes better. Grow your own food. Kill your own meat.
      Get fluoride out of your life. Use natural tooth paste that has no fluoride. Don’t drink fluoridated water. Use a filter or bottled spring. Stay away from soft drinks. Beer is good to drink. Fluoride stops the brewing process. So it is almost completely filtered out of the water used. It is a good pure beverage.
      Don’t know what to do about the Chemtrails. Stop breathing I guess. But that tends to shorten the life span too. Hard to control what I have to breathe. Lucky the air is clean and pure where I live. But. I can control what I put in my body. Avoid vaccinations and doctors. Unless necessary. Fastest way I know how to get sick is go to a doctor and start popping pills. There are good natural cures that work on many diseases. Big Pharma does not want you to know about those.
      Live long and prosper!

  • df NJ

    $10/barrel oil is coming:

    “CHINA’S FUSION REACTOR HITS MILESTONE”

    “An experimental fusion reactor built by the Chinese Academy of Science has hit a major milestone. The Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak (EAST) has maintained a plasma pulse for a record 102 seconds at a temperature of 50 million degrees – three times hotter than the core of the sun.”

    • socalbeachdude

      What does that Chinese news have to do with the price of oil which has now hit $48 per barrel today?

  • Cugel the Clever

    These must be 26 facts for the SECOND debate – yeah, that’s it! That’s why the same post has been up for six days!

  • socalbeachdude

    The federal debt nearly doubled over the past nearly 8 years due to the grossly irresponsible and profligate policies of both Congress and the Obama Administration which had nothing whatsoever to do with GWB.

  • Lillian DeVore

    Thank you for listing these facts in one place. The democrats seem to think we can continue down this path indefinitely. The only reason we have not felt the full effects of this economy is that we are still able to borrow money just to make ends meet. Our economy is due for a major reset. I am hoping for sufficient growth in GDP that we can at least break even, before this happens. I trust Trump to put us on the right path. He has been successful in identifying the problems, I’m sure solving them would happen faster than under a part time president. Trump will get his administration to work hard, no time wasted.

    It’s not just our economy, but our Allies are in a similar situation. It’s just a matter of time before our enemies gang up on us.

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