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Planned Parenthood Workers That Reached Abortion Sales Quota Goals Were Rewarded With Pizza Parties

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Planned Parnethood EvilCould you imagine having a job where you had to meet an “abortion sales quota” every month?  According to a shocking new investigation, this was actually happening at Planned Parenthood clinics all over the nation, and workers that reached abortion sales quota goals were rewarded with pizza parties and other incentives.  Every year, Planned Parenthood murders hundreds of thousands of precious little children, but that isn’t good enough for them, and so they have their workers aggressively push abortions to the vulnerable young women who come into their facilities.  It is a national disgrace, and Planned Parenthood should be defunded by Congress immediately.  But of course Planned Parenthood was never defunded after it was revealed that they systematically harvest baby parts and sell them off to the highest bidder, and so many observers are pessimistic that they will be defunded now.

In this video, women that used to work for Planned Parenthood explain how the abortion sales quotas worked.  This is evil that is on a level that is hard to put into words…

America will never, ever be “great again” as long as this kind of thing is allowed to happen.

As you can see in the video, former Planned Parenthood center manager Sue Thayer says that if the number of abortions got too low pressure was really put on the workers to get the number back up to an acceptable level…

“It was on this big grid, and if we hit our goal, our line was green. If we were 5 percent under it was yellow, if we were 10 percent under it was red. That’s when we needed to have a corrective action plan – why we didn’t hit the goal, what we’re going to do differently next time,” she said.

“So we were really very goal-oriented. I trained my staff the way that I was trained, which was to really encourage women to choose abortion, to have it at Planned Parenthood, because that counts toward our goal.”

Thayer’s testimony was corroborated by former Planned Parenthood nurse Marianne Anderson.  According to Anderson, she often felt like “more of a salesman” than a nurse while she was working for the organization…

“I felt like I was more of a salesman sometimes, to sell abortions,” former Planned Parenthood nurse Marianne Anderson says in the video. “And we were told on a regular basis that, ‘You have a quota to meet to keep this clinic open.’”

A very long time ago I worked in a high pressure sales environment, and I was reminded of those days when I watched this video.  In fact, some of the techniques that Thayer says Planned Parenthood uses to sell abortions are just like high pressure sales techniques that are commonly used in other industries

She continued: “We would try to get the appointment scheduled for the abortion before they left our clinic. We would say things like, ‘your pregnancy test, you visit today is X number of dollars. How much are you gonna be able to pay towards that.’ … If they’d say, ‘I’m not able to pay today,’ then we would say something like, ‘Well, if you can’t pay 10 dollars today, how are you gonna take care of a baby?’

“‘Have you priced diapers? Do you know how much it costs to buy a car seat? Where would you go for help? There’s no place in Storm Lake – or whatever town they were in – you know, where you can get help as a pregnant mom.’”

Since Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973, more than 56 million babies have been slaughtered in abortion mills across the United States.

And your tax dollars are being used to fund Planned Parenthood.  In fact, Planned Parenthood gets close to half a billion dollars from the federal government every year.

But now there is an effort to change all that.  A new bill has been introduced in Congress that would take that money away from Planned Parenthood and give it to other organizations that provide health care services for women…

Two U.S. Senators have introduced a bill that would redirect more than $500 million in federal funding from the abortion and contraceptive giant Planned Parenthood to women’s health care providers that do not perform abortions.

Sens. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa, and James Lankford, R-Okla., recently introduced the “Protect Funding for Women’s Health Care Act” with the support of 127 co-sponsors.

“Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no federal funds may be made available to Planned Parenthood Federation of America, or to any of its affiliates, subsidiaries, successors or clinics,” the bill reads in part. “All funds no longer available to Planned Parenthood will continue to be made available to other eligible entities to provide women’s health care services.”

Thanks to the recent election, the Republicans now control the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives.

If they do not defund Planned Parenthood now, there is no excuse.

So I and millions of other deeply concerned Americans will be watching.  During the campaign, Donald Trump promised that he would defund Planned Parenthood.  If it doesn’t happen, it will be a horrible stain on the Trump presidency.

People are so fired up about Trump’s executive orders on immigration and other issues, but what he does about Planned Parenthood is far, far more important than any of that.

We simply cannot continue to murder millions of our own children and expect to have any sort of a future for our nation.  In my latest book I talk about the judgments that are coming to America, but if we were to turn from our wicked ways perhaps those judgments could be delayed.

Any society that kills millions of kids deserves to be destroyed.  So please do not buy into the deception that America can be “great again” without addressing this great evil.

This revelation about Planned Parenthood comes at a critical time.  If the federal government is going to defund Planned Parenthood, it is probably going to happen fairly quickly.

But if it doesn’t happen, the blood of countless numbers of precious children will be on the hands of Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress, and they will have absolutely no excuse.

 
  • JC Teecher

    Amen and Amen, Michael.

    Excellent article. Excellent writing and information. Excellent observation of which I agree 100%.

    Our Creator is watching us very carefully. Especially since He gave us Christians, and all those that profess to be Christians, a chance to turn things around for the innocent lives of millions of babies that are already being counted for their “baby murder mills”. The evil people that run these satanic organizations see $$ signs, and not the flames of Hell Fire, that they are flirting with.

    How sick is a society that wants to kill off it’s crop of “already documented” citizens, and replace them with a crop that doesn’t speak the language, has some pretty bad hombres within it’s migrants, and is mostly about getting all the free benefits off the backs, and the blood,sweat, and tears, of the true American taxpayer?

    • SnodtBlossom

      Stupid article. Stupid writing and information. Stupid observation of which I agree 05.

      • Paul Patriot

        Ah, maybe because your eyes are burning because you do not like wat you are reading….. I am confused as to why your so irritated……. Since “there is no God”. Right????

  • Mike Smithy

    I wonder how many of these sick slaughter house bastards had their party at Comet Ping Pong Pizza?

    • Evan Elliott

      Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the title….

    • SnodtBlossom

      Take your Male Pigpen brain to somewhere else than America where the truth is that most people are malnourished, dying from easily treatable diseases with a little money, and those who are simply starving before you try to force women to keep unformed cell clumps.

      • GSOB

        Just keep your clothes on.

        • SnodtBlossom

          gsob’s god isn’t real

          • GSOB

            Oh, He’s real alright, so much more than you or I.

            Romans 11:36

          • SnodtBlossom

            gsob lives a life of happy delusion

      • Mike Smithy

        Rather than annoying the ECB readers and contributors with you incoherent FemiNazi drivel, feel free to sit in a corner while sucking a turd to a sharp point and stab yourself with it.

        • SnodtBlossom

          Only desperate foreigners like you

  • Dean Nelson

    You dont have to be a Christian or believe in curses to be disgusted with abortion..

    • GSOB

      But God has provided forgiveness in Christ to those who believe.

    • SnodtBlossom

      I applaud abortion.

      • GSOB

        That doesn’t surprise me,… that you would support such a crime.

        It surprises me more that others who claim to know Christ, say there is no forgiveness for having had an abortion.

        Believe me, there is salvation in Jesus Christ. The salvation is paid for by His death. Won’t you give yourself to Him?

        Time is running out and history does have a destination.

        • SnodtBlossom

          You never get the point that you waste your breath foolishly

          • GSOB

            Isaiah 49:15

  • Spatial Memory

    Any society that kills millions of kids deserves to be destroyed. So please do not buy into the deception that America can be “great again” …

    After years of atrocious economic and capital markets predictions, now seditious articles?

    • Guest

      Seditious? How is what the author stated in the article seditious?

      He is absolutely right that this nation deserves judgment for the murder of tens of millions of unborn children.

      • Spatial Memory

        About as right as he was with the continuous collapse rants while assets skyrocketed to unprecedented levels and investors benefited tremendously. Absolutely!

      • socalbeachdude

        It is certainly not “murder” to abort unborn fetuses and no state in the USA defines that as murder at all.

        • Paul Patriot

          Sooooooo……why does that fetus cringe as if in pain, when the abortion murderer, I mean “doctor” reaches in and rips the limps off the “fetus”??????

          You yourself have written it is not a ” life” until actual birth……so, what is it that cringes when the body parts, brain, etc is ripped out to cause death????

        • GSOB

          Go back to your ET diet.

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      like Trump said to Bill O’Reilly “you think we are so innocent?”

  • RobSa

    Its not murder, else someone would prosecute. Its not evil. That is just some made up theological term which could mean anything depending on your deity. What this is about is a women’s right to choose what medical procedure they think is best for them. Nothing more and nothing less. When this writer uses the word murder to describe abortion it convinces no-one of anything.

    • anonymous

      No it’s just discarded proteins. In fact why don’t they just blend the unused “parts” and make breaded nuggets out of them. Sell them to a large fast food chain as pink slime. Let’s not let anything go to waste.

      • JC Teecher

        In fact, you are not too far off the mark.
        There is a list of companies out there that actually buys the parts from abortion clinic labs, and adds them to their ingredients.

        Pepsi-Co is one of them. Just how much is factual, we may never know, but just in case, I do not drink Pepsi Cola anymore.

        • GSOB

          What the??

    • Thomas D Guastavino

      What part of “right to life” do you not understand?

    • Teresa F

      If the mother doesn’t “want” the child and has someone kill it for her, it’s not murder. However, if she does “want” it and someone kills it while she’s pregnant, they DO get charged with murder. That totally negates their argument that it’s not a life. You can’t say in one case it’s a life subject to protection and in the other it’s not. But that’s exactly what we’re doing. It’s total nonsense.

      • Guest

        Well said!

        • sister soldier

          “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.”

          • Guest

            Amen!

      • HeyAHuman

        What about after rape or incest? It’s still a life then.

        • Teresa F

          Yes, it’s still a life, even if it was conceived by rape or incest. There are many couples out there that would love to adopt a child, no matter how it was conceived.

          • Carl

            Really, then why are there so many kids that still need to be adopted? Maybe because people don’t want to adopt children, they want to adopt babies.

            Same reason that there are so many animals destroyed each day. People want the cute and cuddly puppy or kitten rather than the adult animals. Plus many morons wont spay and neuter.

          • GSOB

            You have no moral compass. Life is short, make the best use of the time you have left.

          • HeyAHuman

            So you’d disown your daughter (if you had one) and call her a murderer if she was raped and got an abortion?

          • Teresa F

            No I wouldn’t disown my daughter. I would love her and help her deal with the tragedy of both situations.

        • socalbeachdude

          A fetus is NOT A LIFE UNTIL IT IS BORN.

          • GSOB

            John 3:5-7

          • HeyAHuman

            I don’t *fully* disagree (though fetuses are, in fact, ALIVE)… Just pointing out how inane some of these points are.

    • JC Teecher

      You are so wrong on this. God has given us the information to work with, that life begins at conception, and He places a soul within that embryo.

      It is murder, when it is planned killing, no matter what the age or size of the flesh body.
      No, it is “NOT”, a blob, a tadpole, a glob of flesh, or any of the other PP descriptions of the embryo and fetus.

      It is a live creation, and just like all “birthed” humans, it becomes a spirit again, returned unto the Creator, that gave it life, once it has no more fleshly life.

      All persons directly involved with the planning and taking of that innocent life, will have their day in court. Not the court of man, but the High Court in Heaven, in front of God, that gives and takes life.

      At that hearing, the life taken, will be in their full, young adult, spirit body. The body that they had prior to being placed in the womb as a fertilized egg/embryo and later, a fetus. Yes, they are/were, human and will be there, to be the face of the life that was stolen from them on earth, by their murderers.

      Being one of the convicted murderers is not a place a young woman wants to be in their future judgment day. Being convicted of murder by God, is some heavy duty stuff my friends.
      Killing someone in battle/war, or in the heat of passion/rage, is totally different than homicide/planned killing, of an innocent life.

      I can’t imagine being a woman, and then being before God, and the life that I had killed and deprived of having a life in the flesh. What would one say? I am sorry? Sorry I took your life on earth? Sorry I deprived you of a flesh life, like the one I had before becoming a murderer. Women that abort their babies, never have peace again on earth, because they can never receive forgiveness until they meet their victim before the High Judge.

      “A woman’s right”????

      A woman, nor man, has any right when it comes to their body. That is just made up lies by a liberal ideology. A woman does not own her body. God owns it and the soul within it. So a living human within the body is not the woman’s either, as it belongs to God. Woman is just the vessel that prepares it for life outside the womb, and that is all.

      In fact, the only thing we as humans…”own” is freewill, and salvation, which are gifts from our Creator …Jehovah Jireh.

      Think about it.

      • Carl

        I find it ironic that in your discourse about taking an innocent lift before it has an opportunity to live a human life you make no mention of all of the CHILDREN alive right now and in the flesh on this earth living in foster homes and whom are without loving parents to take care of them. Children who are nameless and faceless. Yet is does not stop anyone from continuting to have more babies.

        One could argue that life is not that valuable when it can be created in a druken moment of stupidity. That the human species will never die out simply because we are just a biological organism programmed to breed. That this more than likely is our sole purpose and every thing else – your job, faith, the house you live in, sports, etc is just bandaids to keep the natives from getting restless so to speak.

        If people really cared about the children there would be no children in this world that needed to be adopted. Every child would have a home to call their own. Parents who cared about them and never hurt them. Yet the truth is far grimer in reality because this is not how the world is. Maybe christians should start adopting these children and start nurturing the living ones instead of mourning for the unborn.

        Perhaps as a society if we started taking better care of eachother and treated eachother as your own god commanded then the problems and ills of society would slowly start to take care of themselves. Instead we live in dog eat dog world. Where people do not value the lives of others on this planet. Adding more people to this mix would not change anything.

        Let’s start by taking care of the children who are living right now. Stop with the attitude that just because a child shares your DNA that gives you the right to mess up their lives. Children are not property and the legal system should stop treating them that way. Many a child has been given back to unsuitable parents just because they are theirs biologically.

        Christians love to simplify the realities of life on this planet. They ignore the truth about human nature and close their eyes and ears to anythig that threatens their simplistic world view. Banning abortion will never make this country great.

        Your god created a world where everything has to harm another to survive. Both human, animal and even plant life. This spirit of violence is woven throughout the book you cherish and look to for guidance.

        There is something wrong with an all knowing being who demands death, genocide, animal sacrifice and blood. These are not kind, gentle or even merciful acts. Yet they are justified and accepted. Same as the crimes and genocides of your very own government (which mimic your god) are justified and given the OK by the American people.

        • JC Teecher

          God tells us to never argue with the devil.
          That also includes the devils followers…aka atheists.

          So, I stated my case against abortion and for the Lord’s definition of murder and why he does not allow forgiveness for these crimes of homicide, ..”while still in the flesh”. It is written, and it is truth.

          so now, Carl, you can find someone else to argue with.

          • Carl

            “God tells us to never argue with the devil.” Unless of course he is having a contest with him about Job then it is OK to argue with him.

          • JC Teecher

            How do you seem to know so much about the Bible and a God you do not believe in? Because you have a reprobate mind.
            Job never argued with Satan, he argued with his three accusers, that were supposed to be his friends.
            never try to debate something you have no idea about, as you just show your stupidity, like Guest, just previous to this comment.

            You two can’t bring anything of intelligence to my table so you just spew your ideological hate and lies.

          • Carl

            I never said Job argued with the devil. I said god did. But you know that don’t you. Not to mention other conversations he has with the devil on a few occasions. Which in itself should be enough to discredit the book.

          • Jerry C

            Biblically ignorant & professing to know the Bible is no way to go through life.

          • Guest

            It’s not true that God cannot forgive the sin of murder.

            I’ve read many of your comments on this site, and I must say that some of your views are erroneous and unscriptural.

          • JC Teecher

            It is your choice to disagree, and show your ignorance and hate of truth.
            You have a good trip down the path of darkness with your twisted beliefs.

          • GSOB

            We both can’t be right.

          • GSOB

            You are an enemy to the gospel of Christ

          • socalbeachdude

            An abortion is not “murder” at all and is not defined that way by any of the 50 states, 6 territories, and 1 district of the United States of America.

          • Guest

            King David had an affair with the wife of Uriah the Hittite. And then he arranged to have Uriah killed. But God put away David’s sin. See 2 Samuel 12:13.

            However, there were severe consequences of David’s sins. See 2 Sam. 12:10

            Sin can be forgiven, but there are still consequences. The only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which is mentioned in Mark 3 and Matthew 12. I don’t believe that sin can be committed today because Jesus is not here on Earth.

          • JC Teecher

            There are two sins that are punishable by death. Proven homicide and rape; especially rape of an innocent/underage girl. Which when looked at it from a standpoint of her, the rape victim, as a virgin, then there is the shedding of innocent blood in that case as well..

            i have heard your ole mantra for years, about “all” sins are forgiven; but that is not what God said in Deuteronomy and Numbers, and other places. then here comes the other cry and position of all things of old were “nailed to the cross”.

            Anyone that follows that lie, then disagrees with Jesus Christ when He said He came not to change one jot or tittle of the law, but to fulfill it,

          • Guest

            What? I did not all sins are forgiven. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

            I am not opposed to capital punishment. I believe it is biblical. But that does NOT mean that the sin of murder is unforgivable. Sin is forgivable, but there are still consequences of sin. And in the case of murder, the murderer should and must suffer the consequences of their sin.

            Now, what part of that don’t you understand? Please read my comment again before you respond.

          • JC Teecher

            One word for you..”idiot”. Can you comprehend that. As with Carl the snarl, I choose not to cast my pearls before swine; so you can skedaddle piglet.

          • GSOB

            You a Christian? Act like one

          • Carl

            So when god told the jews to kill all the men, children and women but keep the virgins for themselves that was not rape of these young girls?

          • JC Teecher

            so so so, you are too liberal for me to fool around with.
            i choose not, to cast my pearls before swine.
            So you can skedaddle porky.

          • GSOB

            What you have is not pearls, but another gospel

          • sister soldier

            Truth is truth.

          • GSOB

            Verses?

          • Carl

            The verse is Numbers 31: 17-18 and pertains to the midianites. Not to mention the 32 that were given specifically as an offering to god – is this alluding to human sacrifice?

            And what was the crime of said midianites – they supposedly led the israelites astray from god and he was jealous and angry. So he ordered the murder of men, women, and all male children – including male babies. So I guess god was the first abortionist.

            We could go on and on about the immoral behavior of the god of the bible that christians so feverishly cling to – all the while condemning other religions.

          • GSOB

            You are a fool indeed, for you despise the actions of a Holy God that you will give an account to.

            But you already know that, that you’ll face death and judgment, and so you hide like Adam, whom also needed peace with God.

            And so your excuse not to repent is:

            “Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.”

          • Carl

            You and teecher could be best friends. I could go on with more verses, but you already know them all and excuse all of it. You are pathetic and brainwashed.

          • Carl

            “Do you see abortion there?” Well since most christians believe that abortion is the murdering of a baby then god ordering the slaughtering of all male babies is abortion. Abortion is just a fancy way of saying death in the womb.

          • Jerry C

            Had Israel swayed and Jesus Christ never have been born, we would all be dead in our sins; all trillions & trillions of human beings who ever lived. You. Are. Clueless.

          • GSOB

            You are so far of the mark that it’s not even funny.
            You have a real serious crises going on in your head about God’s salvation in Christ.

          • GSOB

            Adams sin brought in God’s judgment, death, thus death is experienced by all who are in Adam.

            The last Adam became a Life Giving Spirit
            He was raised for the sinner’s justification.

            You must be born again.

          • Jerry C

            ? Sin is getting even worse. Jesus Christ died for all the sins of the world 2,000 years ago for all the sins before that date, sins during and sins to the end of time.

          • GSOB

            Why don’t you go take a hike or go fly a kite.

        • Jerry C

          Sounds like you want a world full of Christians following God’s 10 Commandments but hate God & Christians because evil people do evil things to children. Illogical.

      • GSOB

        If you don’t believe in Christ atonement is sufficient for murderers, then why do you waste your time on those who support abortion?

        • JC Teecher

          That does not make any sense, as usual.
          You are back on block.

          • GSOB

            Break it down, read the question slow.
            In other words, you teach that Christ’s blood and the pardoning of the human spirit by the Holy Spirit is not enough to satisfy God’s judgment, …..that murderer person is still under His condemnation.

            So, if those who had an abortion can not have peace with God through the sacrifice of His Son, why evangelize them? You categorically dismiss sinners with your ‘another gospel’.

            That teaching is the work of the flesh, satanic, and just down right heresy.

    • Carl

      Ironic that if a woman wants her baby and it is killed during a crime they considered it life. Yet unwanted it is not considered murder. Just an example of the double speak that our judicial system has in relation to actual common sense.

      Same as if you commit a crime such as rape or murder but admit your guilt you are given a lighter sentence then if you do not admit your guilt.

      • Paul Patriot

        Very we said sir

    • Mr.Cipher

      You are sick and twisted.

    • sister soldier

      “It convinces no-one of anything” and would be better stated as “It does not convince the unbeliever of anything.” No one by definition means nobody, not a soul, not anyone, not a single person, never a one, none and that is simply not true. And as horrific and traumatic as abortion is upon the unborn child and the mother it is yet among the many sins that God places under His righteous indignation and divine judgment.

      “These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
      A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
      An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
      A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren (a peace breaker).”

      I am pro-life by all means but wisdom dictates that not all abortions are performed as a method of birth control. Rather they are largely carried out to hide the “sin” that resulted in the unwanted pregnancy including adultery, incest, fornication and like transgressions. However, it remains that some are performed as a last resort to save the mother’s life due to severe genetic defects of the unborn child that would result in the loss of life for one or both and even still it is a matter that should be submitted in a petition to God as the ultimate Authority and the guider and giver of life.

      (Born Again Believers) should never cause anyone who has experienced such an awful act to think they cannot seek forgiveness from God because sin is sin and He is no respecter of persons. We know that our God is long suffering towards us all as the wages of ALL sin is death (abortion or otherwise) but God is still able to save those who repent of their sins. We must never forget that inside of the world wide web that there are souls from all walks of life who need to know that God is the only Righteous Judge and not to make them feel that they are cut off or shut out of His mercies which are renewing each and every day and His forgiveness.

      Almost 54% of women who have abortions identify themselves as Christians. I credit that to the failure of the Church where their silence is deadly in this respect. Therefore we should not glory as those who deem ourselves “guiltless” because we have not committed this one particular sin but we should look and fear that we are not found guilty of any others for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Planned Parenthood’s successful campaign is due in large to the failure of the Church’s prayer campaign.

    • GSOB

      You are an utter fool.

      It is a medical and scientific fact that human life begins at conception.

      • socalbeachdude

        No, life most certainly does NOT BEGIN UNTIL ACTUAL LIVE BIRTH and the cutting of the umbilical cord.

        • GSOB

          AND you are a fool also.

          • socalbeachdude

            Nope. The laws are very clear on this.

          • Paul Patriot

            Mans laws…..that’s a humanistic way of viewing morality……Gods natural law supersedes mans laws

          • socalbeachdude

            The laws of the USA are the only laws that matter and not religious opinions.

          • Paul Patriot

            Incorrect.

          • Paul Patriot

            Incorrect, I said The ctreator Gods law, not religious opinions.

  • Thomas D Guastavino

    The Republicans just need to find another organization willing to do all the other services that PP provides other then abortion and give them the funding.
    Allowing abortion is one thing. Encouraging it with taxpayer money is just gut wrenching.

    • Crystal

      I went to Thrive STL an organization that provided me personally with services for $10, including the pregnancy test and ultrasound. They also sat down with me and talked to me, making sure that I was going to be okay, that I wasn’t going to be kicked out of my house or put into harm because of my pregnancy. They gave me a list of people to contact including insurance and set me up an appointment with a doctor who would take me in before I “officially” had my insurance.

    • SnodtBlossom

      You only say that cause you’re not a chick who has been promised that he’d pull out in time

      • GSOB

        Just keep the clothes on and you won’t have to worry about that.

        • SnodtBlossom

          Go take your silly buttocks somewhere else and make me happy

          • GSOB

            Cry out to the Lord for emancipation

        • Dean Nelson

          It takes two to tango.

          • GSOB

            I dance alone

          • Dean Nelson

            Most people dont

          • GSOB

            The purpose of human life is to build the dwelling place of God in His Kingdom.

            2 Corinthians 4:6-7

            For God, who said,

            “Let there be light in the darkness,”

            has made this light shine in our hearts so we could know the glory of God that is seen in the face of Jesus Christ.

            We now have this light shining in our hearts, but we ourselves are like fragile clay jars containing this great treasure.

            This makes it clear that our great power is from God, not from ourselves.

            2 Corinthians 5:15-17

            He died for everyone so that those who receive His new life will no longer live for themselves.
            Instead, they will live for Christ, who died and was raised for them.

            So we have stopped evaluating others from a human point of view.
            At one time we thought of Christ merely from a human point of view.
            How differently we know him now!
            This means that anyone who belongs to Christ has become a new person.
            The old life is gone;
            a new life has begun!

          • SnodtBlossom

            I thought you were married.. perhaps in name only.. this raises eyebrows

      • Thomas D Guastavino

        Pity the child who’s parents are that stupid.

      • Paul Patriot

        the consequences of fornication…..

        • James Staten

          many in our society today, don’t even know what is fornication or adultery

      • Dean Nelson

        BOTH PARENTS are or should be held responsible for the outcome. Any guy that doesn’t live up to his responsibility in that matter is a scum bag.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    Now you understand why we have Open Borders. It occurred to the Powers-That-Be that “Reproductive Rights” involved murdering their future domestic customer.base. That and Birth Control was doing a “number” on future sales revenue. Ergo, rather than do the heavy lifting required to rid us of the horror of abortion, it was just easier to let the “breeders” in and support them through Welfare. (Privatize the Profits, Socialize the Cost) As an added bonus, they are so cheap. BTW, fhe Abortion movement was founded by Sanger, who envisioned it as a means to reduce the Black Population. Her vision has proved quite successful as the number of Black Babies terminated is off the charts. If you doubt me, put your browser on Dr. Kermit Gosnell formerly of Philadelphia now incarcerated. I assure you he has nothing on Dr. Joseph Mengela. There is no “regulating” abortion. It must be eliminated.

    • Guest

      Kermit Gosnell is a demon-possessed man.

    • SnodtBlossom

      The number of true living people starving far outweighs the number of unformed beings that you fret about.
      Every penny you don’t spend to help them quickens their death.
      god isn’t the answer to the sexual divide. nobody should be “forced” to bear a child. accidents and deception happen.. deceptions moreso than accidents.. pregnancy isn’t a walk in the park.. it’s a long arduous process that puts a woman’s physicality and life totally at risk.. no man should have say in it.

      • GSOB

        You spent about 9 months inside your mother’s womb before you left it. You were a human being inside the womb and outside the womb. That is part of the story about the birds and the bees.

        I see that liberal indoctrination has caused you to believe that foundational womb time doesn’t matter.

        Please come to Christ and be saved and renewed.

        • SnodtBlossom

          You aren’t alive until you are born.

          • socalbeachdude

            100% correct.

          • redlucy

            lol! I wish I could be there the day you meet your maker…..you got lots of “splainin’ to do”……Seriously I will do my best to pray for you both…..

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh?

          • SnodtBlossom

            there isn’t a god

          • GSOB

            Join the discussion…

          • socalbeachdude

            We really need to discuss much more important topics than trivial matters such as abortions which are not a political issue and just a highly charged emotional issue with certain folks. The law has already been fully decided regarding abortions in the USA and nothing will change.

          • Paul Patriot

            Sooooooooo please share your infinite wisdom with us all and explain how the heart beat a mere 22 days after conception does not indicate the fetus is alive????

          • socalbeachdude

            Those fetuses exist only as an unwanted part of a mother’s body and would be dead if the umbilical cord is cut.

          • GSOB

            Luke 1:41

          • Dean Nelson

            The unborn ARE alive. They are just dependent on the mother for life support until they can function on their own.

          • socalbeachdude

            No, they are NOT LEGALLY ALIVE until the moment they are born live.

          • watchmannonthewall

            God does not observe or submit to what man calls “legal”, as Paul indicated to the Corinthian church: “All things are lawful to me [the things Corinthian society “legally” allowed- in this specific example, filing a lawsuit/claim against someone], but not all things are profitable.” (1 Cor. 6:12)

            As Creator, He decides what is “legal”. For the time being, He has given (wo)man the opportunity to make her/his own choices without too much interference, other than shame or regret in a number of cases, as noted in an above comment. His Word says that if a person strikes a woman so her “fruit” departs from her, the person is guilty of murder and is to be dealt with in such manner as He said.

          • SnodtBlossom

            there is no god

          • watchmannonthewall

            R U sure? Or just resistant?

          • Dean Nelson

            This is not a discussion of legal definitions ( although your definition is incorrect)- it is a MORAL discussion. We are arguing concepts of right and wrong.

          • Sharon Windus

            The moment you are “BORN” is the moment you are conceived.

          • SnodtBlossom

            You aren’t alive until you are born.

          • TrollingforTrolls

            I will tell you a personal story. I had an abortion at 16. At the time almost too late as I was nearing my 2nd trimester. It was sheer hell, as I did not want it, but both my mom and my boyfriend insisted. To this very day, it breaks my heart. Laying on that table, drugged out of my mind, but hearing the whirring of the machine as my baby was literally sucked out of me. Use your imagination, because this viable human being was ripped and torn in shreds. I left the clinic that day numb, crying, and feeling my life had ended.
            But by the grace of God, his eternal love and forgiveness, I survived, and was saved. He continued to bless me with 3 beautiful children and a beautiful granddaughter. Please don’t denounce the virtues of children. No matter the circumstances, no child is unplanned, for God made them all

          • SnodtBlossom

            Sorry.. no time to read.. next story

          • TrollingforTrolls

            Sorry, you chose not to read. I get it. Somewhere along the line, you got disconnected for whatever reason. Yet, you are drawn to a blog written by a Christian author. God does indeed work miracles:–)

          • Sharon Windus

            and your “birth” is the moment of conception.

      • Dean Nelson

        Raising children isn’t ” a walk in the park” either but society doesn’t allow mothers to kill their children. Sensible people agree that SOME abortions should be allowed, such as for cases of rape or incest or where the life of the mother is threatened.but those are rare occurrences and the abortion is performed early on. Most people are concerned about LATE TERM ABORTIONS where a nearly fully formed baby is killed. NO FREEDOM IS ABSOLUTE but the so- called ” pro choice” advocates seem to want NO restrictions on when they can get an abortion.

      • Sharon Windus

        then keep your legs crossed. The time to consider whether you want to get pregnant of not is BEFORE you open your legs to a male. I know there are exceptions to this as in the case of rape or the very likely death of the mother should she have to carry to term. But I’d consult with my own Dr. in that instance before I’d go to an abortion clinic. Especially one that has to meet a “quota” every month of murders or sells parts of the child they are murdering for profit.

    • socalbeachdude

      Actually, just the opposite. The US should move to a “one child” policy like existed for years in the People’s Republic of China.

      • GSOB

        Now that is really stupid. It would lead to more murder.

        • socalbeachdude

          It would significantly decrease the breeding among the poorest population of the US leading to vastly less so-called “poverty” in the United States.

          Moreover, federal tax laws should be changed to remove any and all deductions for having more than 2 children as those tax laws and vast amounts of credits are a key reason driving the number of children in the poorest households in America.

          It certainly not “murder” in any respect to remove and dispose of unborn fetuses.

          • GSOB

            Take my word for it….

            Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh?

          • GSOB

            Repent, turn to Christ and be saved from this evil generation and your sins.

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh?

          • GSOB

            The purpose of life is to build the dwelling place of God

          • socalbeachdude

            No. The purpose of life is to eat, drink, and be merry while observing all laws and being fiscally responsible.

          • Fed Up

            And I sure as hell am not one of His either. I don’t need that kind of nonsense in my life.

          • PastProdigal

            Nonsense is living your entire life and never finding your Creator.

          • Fed Up

            As stupid as Blacks usually are, I seriously doubt it would work. Look at those infamous welfare queens (more babies = more welfare checks). Or the sub-moron Black males — impregnating as many females as possible, to prove their “manhood.”

          • Sharon Windus

            an unborn child is still a child. Ergo.. MURDER. That is why killing a pregnant woman is considered a double killing.

          • PastProdigal

            Move to China if that’s the way you feel.

            How do you know the one who saves your life in the future isn’t living right now in the ghetto?

            Your heart is stone.

      • Fed Up

        Duh? It is emphatically NOT White people breeding babies like there’s no tomorrow. It’s the Latinos and other generally illegal immigrants.

      • PastProdigal

        That is sick and insane. Evil.

    • SnodtBlossom

      Be honest with yourself.. What would the complexion of America look like without abortion

    • Fed Up

      I am generally against abortion on demand, but reality has it that for some women, abortion is their ONLY proper solution to an unwanted pregnancy.

  • Mike Smithy

    If Planned Parenthood is looking to enhance sales for it’s “Murder for Hire” business model, perhaps they need a new promotional program. For example, give the women a punchcard and tell them after 5 abortions, the 6th one is free.

    • JC Teecher

      Good gosh man. Imagine having to face God, with the six people/lives, one had murdered on earth.
      That would be their worst day ever.

      It won’t be “Woman, where are thou accusers”. It will be “Woman, here are your victims”.

      • Mike Smithy

        True.

      • Carl

        Sorry it does not work that way. What about the fathers of these children? How come they don’t have to stand before their victims also?

        • Mike Smithy

          Seriously? Perhaps the sperm donor has no idea that he has “knocked-up” the tramp. Perhaps the slut told the sperm donor that she was on the pill and couldn’t get pregnant. Perhaps the slut has no clue as to who knocked her up?

          • Carl

            Wow you really hate women. It is comments like these that show a persons true nature. I am sad for you sir to have so much hatred in your heart there has to be a reason. Do you know why? What happened to you?

            As for the sperm donor comment. Maybe men should start taking responsibility for having sex with whomever they want. Perhaps as a society we should start teaching men that they can control themselves and can be the ones to say no to sex.

            But that would mean men like you would have to change your way of thinking and I know it can be hard to teach on old dog new tricks. It is far more comfortable to stick to old bigoted ways.

          • HeyAHuman

            Lol yeah… In no way possible is the male even partially responsible for the pregnancy. /s

          • Paul Patriot

            Wow! Please repent and get yourself right with the Lord Jesus Christ
            You could die tomorrow, today I the day of salvation.
            You have much hatred in your heart.
            Please repent!

          • Mike Smithy

            I’ll take it under advisement.

        • JC Teecher

          They will have to stand; Einstein. If they were a party to the murder.

  • Mr.Cipher

    No one walks out of planned Parenthood a parent

    • GSOB

      Defund it… PERIOD

      • SnodtBlossom

        Free Abortions for Everyone! 😀

        • GSOB

          For the love of money is the root of many evils

          • Fed Up

            ‘scuse me while I regurgitate. Bible passes always have that effect on me.

        • Daddyotis

          Free “Madame President Hillary Clinton” T-shirts.

          Oh….wait….

          BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

          • SnodtBlossom

            They are still worthy.

        • K2

          I wish something like PP existed in my country.

      • Fed Up

        You must be kidding! For every White pregnancy aborted, you probably have ten Black or Latino pregnancies running to term.

  • Guest

    Trump is starting to sound like a dictator, i.e. by threatening to destroy the career of a Texas state senator.

    • Mr.Cipher

      1. Fake news
      2. Off topic

      • Guest

        That’s not fake news. Trump really said it. Look it up.

        And it’s not actually off topic because this article is about whether Trump will make good on his promises.

        • socalbeachdude

          Nope.

          • Guest

            Look it up, dude.

          • socalbeachdude

            Look what up?

    • socalbeachdude

      Absolutely false.

  • HeyAHuman

    I find myself craving pizza less and less since last year…

  • Bill

    Sick Soros…..money….media…..manipulation……world monopoly

  • Sammy

    I wouldn’t have any slices with toppings. Ya never know.

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    I bet they had Jew killing parties at the death camps when the Nazis met their quotas and Planned Extermination probably thinks that’s a good and fun idea!!

    • Guest

      What? That makes no sense.

    • socalbeachdude

      Huh? The labor camps during the 1940s were WORK CAMPS and all were in Poland except for a single work camp inside Germany.

  • Dean Nelson

    LIB “MORALS” = Its wrong to kill little animals and cut down trees, but OK to kill unborn children.

    • SnodtBlossom

      There’s plenty of starving people waiting for your money.

      • Dean Nelson

        False dichotomy. One doesn’t negate the other.

  • brauliobo

    legalizing abortion would inevitably destimulate it in inumerous ways, the opposite lived today in US

    • socalbeachdude

      How so?

      • brauliobo

        just look to the countries that regulated abortion: the rates ALWAYS decreased, do a research to see how

        • socalbeachdude

          Abortions are LEGAL throughout the US up to a certain point during the term of the pregnancy defined as “late term.”

          • brauliobo

            I mean, most countries regulations put a lot of obstacles and medical assistence to make sure mothers REALLY WANT and CAN to do it. Repressing in any way only makes the problem bigger

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh?

          • brauliobo

            what didn’t you understand?

          • socalbeachdude

            Once again, abortion is LEGAL IN THE US so I really don’t know what you are arguing about or asserting.

          • brauliobo

            just to make it legal isn’t enough, you must enforce mothers go through a lot of psychological and physical consultation before the abortion can actually be considered and ultimately happen.

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh? That isn’t the case in the USA.

          • brauliobo

            that’s what I am talking about 😉

          • socalbeachdude

            Yes, nor should it be the case in the US.

      • brauliobo

        btw, it’s sad to see people playing moralists and forgetting about the facts

        • socalbeachdude

          What facts?

          • brauliobo

            sorry to see censorship Michael

  • sister soldier

    That’s some unimpressive quasi-Christian gobbledygook from a carnally minded standpoint and a self righteous position (as always). I see you ran over all the other NINE commandments very conveniently and offered a very uninvited benign theoretical poorly organized presentation of Biblical doctrine for self advantage and promotion of service to self over sound doctrine. Your speech is also equal to malignant copulation with the spirit of heresy that negates the power of the only One who is able to forgive our sins. Who are we that we may council God? Notwithstanding 1 John 3:16, “Everyone who hates his brother (or sister) is a murderer, and you know that eternal life does not reside in a murderer. ” If you are going to stand on the word of God stand under conviction that it applies to ALL ungodliness.

    Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, ” Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his COMMANDMENTS (plural and inclusive): for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring EVERY WORK into judgment, with EVERY SECRET THING, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.”

    • JC Teecher

      Once again, I rest my case for you have show everyone, especially the God you claim to love while you use and abuse people for your own selfish reasons, that you are a double minded person.

      One way this moment, and another way the next, when it doesn’t fit your egotistical mindset and approval. I have never met such a high minded, self righteous person on the internet.

      You let slick words and dark sentences roll off your tongue as though you are beyond reproach and conviction, but God has shown otherwise.

      See, I knew you would respond this way, as you always have when someone, even remotely, disagrees with you.

      You pulled off the ropes of truth once again and they put you in bondage with your inflated ego.

      Too easy!

      • sister soldier

        If you know better then stop laying out the fleece.

        • JC Teecher

          it’s my job, when you lay out a position that is contrary to God’s Word.

          • GSOB

            You are saying that murder is an unforgiveable sin and that the bible itself teaches that there is no atonement for that sin in the death of Christ…….

            You are basically talking out both sides of your mouth.

            You are espousing error and preventing sinners from the good news.

            Please get your act together, for your own sake or just stop the false teaching.

          • JC Teecher

            Listen, and I know that is hard for you to do. God’s word says that He expects the courts of man to determine if one is guilty, and if so…death.

            Why death? so they can be standing in their spirit body, in front of His court and in front of the victim, in heaven.

            hence, there is no forgiveness….”in the flesh”, for a murder, without the trial in Heaven.
            If there was total forgiveness for homicide on earth through Jesus blood and the cross; a whole lot of murderers would be running free.

            I know, it is a little bit too heavy of a subject for you, even the second time around, but one day you will see.

          • socalbeachdude

            An unborn fetus is NOT A LEGAL PERSON and there is no “life” there at all until the moment of actual birth.

          • Guest

            Wrong! Life begins at CONCEPTION.

            Abortion is MURDER.

          • socalbeachdude

            Totally false on both counts.

          • Paul Patriot

            Wow!!! And I was beginning to believe you knew how to be a logical thinker….the above comments destroy that for sure.

            Saying there is no life until the moment of actual birth implies that there is no life 10 minutes before the actual birth!!!

            This is such nonsense it makes me think you !may be trying to be sarcastic.

            You are delusional dude! You come across as being very intelligent, however, when you type such an ignorant, nonsensical statement, it reveals that your mind has been taken captive with lies and propaganda from the father of lies.

            Technology now allows us to validate the Bibles proclamation that life in fact does begin at conception.

            To can deny all you want and try to justify the murder of a “fetus” at 8 months as not killing a “life” but, it is a lie, and we will all stand before the Lord Jesus Christ to account for what we have done with his revelation to us through his Word.

          • socalbeachdude

            There is no LEGAL LIFE AS A PERSON until a fetus is born either the natural way or through Cesarean section and the umbilical cord is cut and it starts breathing on its own. Prior to that, there is no life whatsoever in the legal sense to a fetus even in late term pregnancies.

          • Paul Patriot

            OK, just keep believing that. The Bible, which I submit is wiser and far more reliable tjhan you and I , begs to differ with your assertion of when life “legally” begins.

            The laws say that murder is when someone is actually killed by another, Jesus said, just thinking about murder in your heart is viewed as actual murder in the eyes of the Creator God.

          • GSOB

            You are a fool

          • GSOB

            Verses please.

            All that you think specifically supports your teaching that murder is a sin that the precious blood of Christ can not and/or
            does not atone for.

            ……waiting….

    • Guest

      Sister,

      It’s best not to argue with this self-righteous person. I’m certainly not going to anymore.

      Be blessed.

  • JC Teecher

    As I am a believer in Biblical Numerology, as Michael is, I noticed something very interesting at the time of his post last night.
    Dated February 7th, 2017.

    7 = Spiritual perfection
    17 = Victory
    7th + 2017 = 17 which when showing up twice equals double confirmation of a thing. In this case it means that this article by Michael is right on the money, and America’s blessings or cursings is dependent upon what this administration does about legalized abortion/killing of innocents.

    I do also believe that this is the highest ranked sin of the Nation, with Idolatry coming in a close second.

    If we the people, as in Christian morally sound peoples. stand up and fight the good fight for the innocent in the womb, then we have a chance at…..

    17…1 + 7 = 8 which is to say…New Beginnings! Amen!

    If not, well turn out the lights on America.

    • Carl

      What about all the children in need to be adopted. Have you forgotten about them?

      • JC Teecher

        Please. We are on a very serious topic here. You need to be talking to the bleeding heart liberals about adoption, they spew all this love and helping hands bull caca, while trashing Christians, and supporting infidels.

        • socalbeachdude

          Huh?

      • GSOB

        They are alive

        • carl

          OK. But living and quality of life are 2 different things. You get that these children are abused a lot of times in foster care and in these places. So just being alive is really a pointless statement if you are being mistreated.

          • GSOB

            Life is meaningless to you, but the life you let live makes that life for meaningful. Agree?

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    I guess Comet Pizza also has an aborted fetus menu along with their kids menu ? SPIRIT COOKING ANYONE?

  • Special Little Snowflake

    This is FAKE NEWS… Planned Parenthood is only 3% of abortions.

    • GSOB

      So 3% is not enough to defund them?

      • Special Little Snowflake

        Yea, its only about 330k abortions a year which is about .003% of the women’s population ages 44-18

        • GSOB

          You need a Divine transfer

    • socalbeachdude

      All TRUE NEWS appears to be now labeled “fake news” by you. Please go buy a clue somewhere!!!

    • Paul Patriot

      Wow!! You sure are believing the propaganda aren’t you??

      Please learn to think for yourself and learn how to do accurate research in order to present factual truth, not lies.

      Your percentage is so far off its actually troubing how much you have been duped by the pied piper of propoganda

      • Special Little Snowflake

        Projection much???

        • Paul Patriot

          ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • GSOB

    ??? Where on earth do you come up with this false stuff?

    • JC Teecher

      It is biblical, gsob, but you without eyes to see nor ears to hear, cannot understand.
      We have been through this before.
      You should probably stick to man’s doctrines of which you are more familiar.

  • socalbeachdude

    Planned Parenthood should not receive a single penny of federal government funding and has been a eugenics organization since its very inception. Cut all funds to these disgraceful people immediately.

    • Paul Patriot

      Your posts seem to consist of contradictory, now you seem to call planned parenthood as disgraceful people, which I agree because they encourage and conduct abortions, yet you think abortion is not murder and is permissible because mans law says so….

      • socalbeachdude

        There is nothing contradictory at all in my posts. I fully support all women’s rights to abortions even beyond where the current legal term is for that (late term pregnancies).

        However, I do not support any federal government funding whatsoever for groups like Planned Parenthood which should be totally defunded immediately. Obviously, abortion is not “murder” in any way and all that matters in the US are the LAWS in place on the matter as we are a country of LAWS.

        • Dean Nelson

          Laws are based on concepts of right and wrong – moral codes. People who believe abortion is immoral also believe the law allowing abortions under certain situations is also wrong, so they seek to change the laws.

  • socalbeachdude

    FAUXCAHONTAS TOLD BY SENATE TO SHUT UP…

    Sen Eliz Warren Silenced For Rest Of Sessions Confirmation

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/07/warren-barred-from-speaking-on-senate-floor-for-rest-sessions-debate.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump Is Right – Bushes, Clinton, Obama Are ‘All Killers’

    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/02/06/509437/killers-Bushes-Clinton-Obama-Putin

    • Guestman

      Yea, and so is Trump

      • socalbeachdude

        Absolutely false.

  • socalbeachdude

    US Sheriffs Offering Trump Full Backing On All Immigration Policies

    https://sputniknews.com/us/201702071050444955-usa-sheriffs-back-immigration-policy/

  • Liberty First

    Filthy beyond comprehension. Hitler’s evil may pale in comparison. Don’t know – all socialists, national and otherwise, are freaking sick.

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Abortion is a MEDICAL ISSUE between a woman and her doctor and should not even be part of any political debate.

    • Guest

      No, abortion is a MORAL issue and a national disgrace. Life begins at conception, and therefore abortion is murder.

      • socalbeachdude

        No. Life begins at BIRTH and not conception.

        • Dean Nelson

          Not scientifically correct.

          • socalbeachdude

            What I stated is fully LEGALLY correct.

      • Special Little Snowflake

        Taking tissue isn’t out of a body isn’t murder.

        • sue

          One issue with abortion is that is can create problems health wise for women later in life. There are higher incidences of cancer, etc. I think it has something to do with the unnatural interruption of the process. All the hormones etc that are created. With the body having a miscarriage I believe there are not those risks.

          • Special Little Snowflake

            And that is a woman’s CHOICE.

          • GSOB

            So you made that choice?

          • socalbeachdude

            False.

        • GSOB

          Not talking about potty training.

        • Dean Nelson

          Murder is a legal definition. The controversy is whether the unborn should have any legal protection.

          • socalbeachdude

            Unborn fetuses have no legal protection whatsoever up until late term.

          • Dean Nelson

            Not true.

      • socalbeachdude

        Moral issues are not a matter of laws so your assertion is a total non sequitur.

    • GSOB

      A moral issue. You need a moral compass.

      • socalbeachdude

        Well, perhaps so, but it certainly IS NOT A LEGAL ISSUE and of no concern at all to government and the legal system.

        • GSOB

          Even the beasts of the waste land have full breasts, they give milk to their young ones: the daughter of my people has become cruel like the ostriches in the waste land.

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh?

        • Dean Nelson

          Not true.

    • Paul Patriot

      Incorrect! It is between A woman,hr doctor, the innocent unborn…..and the Creator God

      • Dean Nelson

        And society

        • socalbeachdude

          Nope. Society in the US is run by LAWS and those laws make most abortions fully legal and society has nothing further to say regarding that matter.

          • Dean Nelson

            You just agreed with me that society DOES have a say.

      • socalbeachdude

        Nope.

    • Dean Nelson

      Its not just a polical or medical issue. It is first and foremost a MORAL issue. Politics and medical issues are secondary to issues of right and wrong. Medical decisions and laws should reflect and be made within the context of moral codes.

  • socalbeachdude

    The average cost now in 2017 to raise a child from conception to the legal age of 18 is now right around $230,000 and both birth prevention and abortion save huge amounts of private and government funds.

    • Paul Patriot

      Ahhhhhh….yet another excuse to murder the unborn.. Its just to dang expensive to raise a child …abortion is the convenient more economical solution to make the consequences of fornication more convenient.

      Are you glad your mom did not think the way you think???

      • socalbeachdude

        Economic concerns over the cost of having children are the biggest reason why the US birth rate is at record low levels.

  • Special Little Snowflake

    For everyone so Pro-Life here, why aren’t you arguing to ban vesectomies as well?

    • Guest

      Because a vasectomy doesn’t involve the taking of a human life.

      • Special Little Snowflake

        But it’s the male version of creating life. Speem is needed to create humans. So think of all the potential children that could have been made if men had not gotten a vasectomy.

        • GSOB

          You are young and quite ignorant about life in general.

    • Dean Nelson

      It has to do with the heirarchy of life. Some forms of life are generally considered to have higher value than others. Animal life is ranked above plant and insect life and human life is ranked above all the others. ( yes I know people are animals). We may not all agree 100% on the ranking system- but there is general agreement. Therefore, killing sperm is not equated as being equal to killing a fully formed human being.

  • Carl

    What about all the male children and babies that god ordered slaughtered? Why does that sit OK with christians? God was the first abortionist and genocidal dictator. Yet christians do not care about that and make excuses for it.

    • Paul Patriot

      Age old argument by those who dare to shake their fist and accuse the Creator God for his actions.

      Time does not allow to Biblically and logically answer your blasphemous statement, but, I’ll give you a hint:

      The God of the bible is a Holy, Righteous God who HATES sin, and because of his righteousness he has to punish rebellion against his laws.

      If you prayerfully research the context in which the killing occurred in the old testament, you will see that God had reasons for this, and reasons that you can actually understand IF you search with an open mind and heart with the intent of truly knowing why these things occurred.

      The Bible says the natural man cannot understand the spiritual, so to truly understand these accusations that make towards the Living God, you must have the Holy Spirit reveal these to you. Sincerely, seek God and ask him to give you understanding in these matters.

      Only then will you understand that Christians, (although sad about these things) understand why God did them.

      There are deep reasons why God did these things, I pray you seek to know these things.

      • Carl

        “Because of his righteousness he has to punish rebellion against his laws.” But he did NOT punish the israelites for having sex with women who were not israelite and who supposedly enticed them to worship their gods – which was their choice. Instead he ordered men, women, male children and male babies to be murdered so his chosen people would stay pure. How is that OK?

        • Paul Patriot

          Great question. Again, there are actually some answers to that, but, to understand, a foundation has to be laid and understood in order to see the big picture as it were.

          God actually did end up punishing Israel may times over.

        • Jerry C

          I guess you forgot about Assyria, Egypt, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Rome, etc…, and all the other nations who conquered Israel. Oh, and you must have forgotten Titus’s siege on Jerusalem where they killed every last one of man, woman & child. You. Are. Clueless.

    • Jerry C

      Obviously, you think like Job; that you could do a much better job than God. Just so you know, at the end of the book of Job, Job remained silent…for a reason.

    • Kissmagrits

      The people God ordered for the Israelites to kill were nephilim. They were the offspring of fallen angels mating with human women creating Giants. These giants are not human and have no soul or compassion and were barbaric killers.

  • JustAnotherJoe10

    Under cover videos of baby’s body parts being harvested and sold for profit was not enough to get Planned Parenthood de-funded by the tramps in Congress. I do not hold out any hope that this latest revelation will do any good. American’s consciousness has been seared to the point that no one cares any more, and unborn lives voices ceased to be heard a long time ago.

    • socalbeachdude

      What difference does it make?

  • Zebulon

    Abortions are at an all-time low, and yet Republicans consistently and constantly battle against the two main reasons for this: readily available and highly effective modern birth control and comprehensive sex education.

  • Zebulon

    Interesting, there is not one single website that isn’t an extreme-right-wing / super-religious / wackadoodle world-is-ending conspiracy site that is reporting this story.

  • Zebulon

    If you want to lower abortion rates, you should be in favor of…

    Increasing the availability of contraceptives

    Providing sex education (abstinence-only sex ed is not sufficient)

    Providing better public education in general

    Providing free/cheap healthcare for mothers and babies

    Making sure free/cheap child care options are available

    Making the adoption process as easy as possible

    In other words:

    make it as easy and cheap as possible for women to avoid unwanted pregnancy

    make it as easy and cheap as possible to have a healthy baby

    make it as easy and cheap as possible to care for a baby once it’s born

    make it as easy and cheap as possible to give the baby up for adoption if you don’t want to keep it

    Women don’t have abortions because they’re fun. They do it because
    they have a bunch of bad options, and they decide it’s the least-bad
    option. If abortion is illegal and having a dangerous back-alley
    abortion is still the least-bad option, they’ll do that. A better
    solution is to provide women with better options, so that abortion is no
    longer the least-bad option.

    • socalbeachdude

      It certainly is not up to government to pay for that kind of purely personal stuff. Better to change the tax laws to institute substantial penalties (as opposed to huge gains from tax credits) for those parents who have more than 2 children.

    • Jerry C

      So, in other words, you want everyone else to pay for someone else’s expenses. Um, bottom line, no. How about people pay their own way? Can’t? Poor? Stupid? How about family help? No family? How about the community? No community? How about church? Oh yeah, separation of church and state. Hypocrite.

  • socalbeachdude

    SOME FOLKS JUST AREN’T FIT TO HAVE CHILDREN…

    Mom, 36, arrested for DUI with her kids in the car phoned her husband to come and get her children – only for HIM to pull up intoxicated too

    Siobhan Theresa Egnot, 36, was arrested after driving drunk with her kids in the car. She called her husband, 39, to pick up the couple’s kids, but arrived drunk.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4205588/Mother-drove-drunk-calls-drunk-husband-pick-up.html

    • Dean Nelson

      Agree,but that has nothing to do with abortion.

  • Carl

    Since most christians believe that
    abortion is the murdering of a baby then god ordering the slaughtering
    of all male babies is abortion. Abortion is just a fancy way of saying
    death in the womb.

  • yep

    burn the building down…arrest these vile workers…..

  • Fed Up

    Duh? What’s the point? If this were Africa, those PP activists would probably get cars as a reward. But then Africa has done many times more than its fair share in adding to the world’s OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM!
    Be advised, of course, mention of Africa in the same phrase as overpopulation — will be deemed sheer racism. Despite the fact no other continent has “baby factories” working on overdrive! Even Asians have gotten smarter at long last.

  • Tim Huckabay

    Defund Planned Murderhood, try and execute its murderous doctors and their assistants as the cold-blooded murderers they are. That is what should occur.

  • Deplorable Lanie

    That makes me sick to my stomach. That abortions are treated like some item to be sold! They should change the name to Planned Abortions Inc.

  • ProclaimingGodsTruth

    Why this has not been put on the Trump’s “front burner is unbelievable! It has received some talk and some preliminary action but that’s all I see. It should immediately be put on the highest order of business throughout our land. Number One!
    Immigration, etc second. We cannot keep murdering our children and expect Almighty God to [keep] winking. He won’t and unless America repents of this and we amend our ways, judgment is coming … in mass from God’s hand.

  • Sharon Windus

    I sure hope that bill goes through fast. I’ve heard people argue that Planned Parenthood counsels and abortion is only secondary, but that’s not what I’ve heard or read. When you call on the phone, they immediately want to set up an abortion for you, whether you want one or not.

  • TheCogitator

    If abortion is stopped there will be many more lower class people. Abort them, or house them in prisons later after suffering their crimes.

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