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Secret Agenda: Are They Planning To Use ‘Russian Interference’ As An Excuse To Invalidate Trump’s Election Victory?

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barack-obama-michelle-obama-hillary-clinton-conversation-on-air-force-one-public-domainIt has been said that nothing happens by accident in politics, and it is certainly no accident that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, members of the U.S. Senate and the mainstream media are all suddenly buzzing about “Russian hacking” and “Russian interference” in our elections.  Over the past 48 hours, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and just about every other major news source in America has been breathlessly telling us that the CIA has concluded that the Russians “intervened” in the presidential election with the specific goal of helping Donald Trump win.  The implication is that if the Russian interference was significant enough, it could have “unfairly” altered the outcome of the election and thus Donald Trump’s victory was not legitimate.  And if his victory was not legitimate, that opens up all sorts of possibilities for the Democrats.

For those that have been wondering if the establishment was going to attempt to steal the presidency away from Donald Trump before he can be inaugurated, we now appear to have our answer.

There are several ways that this could work, and we’ll take it one step at a time.

On Friday, we were suddenly assaulted with all sorts of headlines about how the U.S. intelligence community has concluded that the Russians interfered in the election and that they did so with the intention of helping Trump win.  The following example comes from CNBC

The New York Times reported American intelligence agencies have “high confidence” that Russia intervened in the later stages of the 2016 election to help Trump win the presidency. Senior administration officials said the Russian government gave WikiLeaks emails from the Democratic National Committee, among others including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta. The organizations also found evidence that Russia hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems, but did not release the information.

More specifically, we are being told that it is the CIA that is the primary source of this “intelligence”.  Of course the public is not being shown a shred of evidence that the Russians were behind any of this.  Instead, we are just being told to trust the “experts” at the CIA

The CIA has concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election specifically to help Donald Trump win the presidency, a U.S. official has confirmed to NPR.

“Before, there was confidence about the fact that Russia interfered,” the official says. “But there was low confidence on what the direction and intentionality of the interference was. Now they [the CIA] have come to the conclusion that Russia was trying to tip the election to Trump.”

On Sunday, four members of the U.S. Senate came forward to express their concerns about Russian interference.  Two of the four were Democrats, and the other two were Republicans that have been some of the most vocal critics of Donald Trump throughout the election season.  I don’t think that it is any accident that John McCain and Lindsey Graham have chosen to be part of this effort

“Congress’s national security committees have worked diligently to address the complex challenge of cybersecurity, but recent events show that more must be done,” said Sens. Chuck Schumer, the incoming Senate Democratic leader, Sen. John McCain, the Armed Services Committee chairman, fellow Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, and Sen. Jack Reed, the top Armed Services Committee Democrat, in a Sunday morning statement.

“While protecting classified material, we have an obligation to inform the public about recent cyberattacks that have cut to the heart of our free society. Democrats and Republicans must work together, and across the jurisdictional lines of the Congress, to examine these recent incidents thoroughly and devise comprehensive solutions to deter and defend against further cyber-attacks.”

And of course this comes on the heels of Barack Obama ordering all of the intelligence agencies under his command to show him any evidence of Russian interference in the election before he leaves office.  According to NBC News, he is insisting that this evidence be delivered to him before January 20th…

President Barack Obama has ordered U.S. intelligence agencies to deliver to him a dossier of the evidence that the Russian government used cyber attacks and other means to intervene in the 2016 election, possibly with the idea of making more information public, a senior intelligence official told NBC News.

White House counterterrorism advisor Lisa Monaco told reporters that the results of the report would be shared with lawmakers and others. Obama leaves office on Jan. 20. Monaco used careful language, calling it a “full review of what happened during the 2016 election process.”

Incredibly, this review is actually going to be headed up by the infamous James Clapper

Taking the absurdity to a whole new level, Obama wants the report completed before his term ends on January 20, by none other than a proven and confirmed liar: “The review will be led by James Clapper, the outgoing director of national intelligence, officials said.” In other words, the report that the Kremlin stole the election should be prepared by the time Trump is expected to be sworn in.

“We are going to make public as much as we can,” the spokesman added. “This is a major priority for the president.”

So what is there such an urgency to this?

Couldn’t they just begin this review now and have it completed at some point under the Trump administration?

Or could it be possible that they need this information so urgently because they want to use it for political purposes?

Some are already suggesting that if there is “clear evidence” of unfair Russian intervention that the only reasonable outcome would be to hold another election.  In fact, former CIA agent Bob Baer just appeared on CNN and stated that if “the evidence is there, I don’t see any other way than to vote again.

Could you imagine the uproar if that happened?

Personally, I think that is not likely to happen.

But this issue could be used to try to sway some Electoral College votes on December 19th.  We already know that one of Trump’s electoral voters has publicly pledged not to vote for him, and he claims that he has other Republican electoral voters that plan on joining him.

But even if Trump successfully gets through the Electoral College vote, he still has one more hurdle to get over.

On January 6th, a joint session of Congress will meet to count the electoral votes.  Most of the time this is a formality, but this time around that may not be the case.

If at least one member of the House and at least one member of the Senate submits an objection in writing, electoral votes can potentially be invalidated.  The following comes from the official House.gov website

Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 sets the method for objections to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, Members of Congress may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately in a session which cannot last more than two hours with each Member speaking for no more than five minutes. After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted.

So even if Donald Trump receives at least 270 Electoral College votes, he could still be denied the presidency by Congress.

And that may be what the establishment is shooting for.  If they can present “compelling evidence” that Russian interference “unfairly” altered the outcome of the election in November, perhaps enough members of Congress can be convinced to vote to invalidate Trump’s election victory.

I don’t think that is going to happen, but when it comes to Trump the normal rules don’t seem to apply.

However, what should be apparent to everyone is that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and the members of Congress that are suddenly making this such a huge issue all have a reason for doing so.  They claim that they are doing it for the good of the country, but in politics there is almost always an ulterior motive for everything.

Do they actually intend to try to steal the presidency from Donald Trump?

If they do, we won’t have too long to wait before we find out.

  • Aeffesstoo

    They’ll play hell if they try that

    • SnodtBlossom

      they’ll play hell?

    • Mr.Cipher

      Here in America we say There will be Hell to pay.

      informal:
      serious trouble will occur as a result of a previous action.

  • A.S.

    The evil intentions of pure evil has no bounds. Hilary is a witch along with others who follow her.

  • MDS

    Is it not ironic that a certain U.S. intelligence agency would cry “foul!” over alleged foreign interference in our presidential election? How many foreign elections have they unduly influenced or even rigged?

    And now they want to try rigging a U.S. election by claiming that the Russians rigged it.

    (Too bad so many of us voted for Trump or Clinton instead of voting for the giant meteor. 😉 )

    • Reese Daniel

      I wish Trump would get rid of ALL these Alphabet Soup agencies but I know I’m just dreaming.

  • K

    The CIA, that missed 911, the CIA that tortured prisoners,the CIA that did illegal renditions on foreign soil,the CIA who said weapons of mass destruction were in Iraq.That CIA? Notice they did not claim anything hacked was a lie. So what is the charge? That Russia influenced an American election, by telling the truth? Yep, that sounds like the CIA.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Great Post…Thanks

    • voltaic

      You two bit conspiracy freaks ignore everything but the lies you tell yourself. You pick two things out of a hat and then spout them like they are all that CIA has done in past 40 years. Bush missed 9/11 since he was briefed on it and ignored it. It was OK for FBI to manipulate election and you all bought it as fact, but when CIA says trump was working with russia to hack election you blame the CIA! You are hypocritical losers and outright frauds.

      • Mike Smithy

        Bush 41 never received specific adverse intel from the CIA suggesting that a terrorist plot was imminent.

      • K

        A couple? Bay of Pigs Illegal activities during the Vietnam war under the banner MAC/SOG. Missed the hostage crisis in Tehran. I could go on and on. Why do you not list their positive accomplishments? Oh, forgot. If they ever had any, you never had the clearance to know about them..

        • K

          Oops, that is MACV/SOG mis-typed.

        • voltaic

          You proved my point. Those are all real events, but you refuse to believe this hacking event because it doesn’t fit your storyline.

          • K

            Ah the troll method. Read more carefully. I do not care if they were hacked. Since only the truth was revealed. And since wikileaks said it was not the Russians. I would believe wikileaks before the CIA, all day long.

          • voltaic

            So you are a fan of Assange who republicans call a criminal and wish to have placed in prison. Did you believe and support wiki when they released the Iraq War crimes of the Bush admin? The fake WMds? If so. Good. But selective beliefs makes everything unbelieveable.

          • K

            Yes I have always supported wikileaks.I am an independent, so do not care what either party thinks..

          • Joltin Joe

            I support the truth, D and R are both corrupted to the core. If you can’t see it then YOU, are part of the problem.

          • voltaic

            I agree. No favorites.

          • guest

            Are you laboring under the delusion that you’re talking to republicans here? Do you delude yourself into believing the fairytale that anyone on this site is still waiting for WMD’s to be found. You build a straw man then attack him in every comment you write.

          • Richard O. Mann

            Again, where is the proof? How did the Russians, or anyone else for that matter, change the outcome of the election? What did they do?

          • voltaic

            They hacked one party’s email and not the other’s. They openly supported trump with the release. Assange has said repeatedly that he hates clinton and thinks he has a better chance with trump.

            ‘American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” … that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks. ‘

            So both putin and assange were releasing information that could damage only one party. That is influencing the election for their agenda.

          • Richard O. Mann

            Again, no proof. No smoking gun. No one person who can say for sure that the Russians hacked anything. It’s all just innuendo and trying to find some way to stop Trump from being put in office.
            Trump won. Hillary lost. Get over it. Let it go. Move on. Get a life.

          • voltaic

            More conspiracy nonsense. Facts are facts regardless of pparty. If yoyu believed FBI about Hillary then you should believe CIA about hacking for trump.

          • Richard O. Mann

            With the FBI and Hillary, there were e-mails. Lot’s and lot’s of e-mails. With the Russian helped Trump win, so far there is nothing. No e-mails. No one stepping up and saying “yes, we did it.” Nothing. All of Hillary’s e-mails were made public. She was running an un-secure router in her home that anyone could have gotten into. I know it really is pointless to carry on this conversation. The Hillary supporters are grasping for any straw that comes their way in hopes of overturning the election. Time to move on. Me that is. Bye de bye bye.

          • voltaic

            You refuse to accept reality. Yes there were emails and yet there is NO proof ANYONE hacked the system. None. Careless? Yes. Proof of hacking. NO. Yet you say there is no proof Russia hacked election? Why do you think there is proof when convenient but not when inconvenient. So long……

          • Gay Veteran

            I agree conspiracy nonsense……from the CIA

          • andywade

            Yeah, not like the Real conspiracies, likeBigfoot faking the moon landngs and assasinating JFK – that stuffs gen-up!

          • Gay Veteran

            don’t forget Saddam Hussein’s WMD and ties to al Qaeda

          • LifeandLiberty

            But you don’t have ANY facts whatsoever. Your candidate lost – get over it.

          • SnodtBlossom

            Impeach President PigBastard T.Rump!!!

          • Del Austin

            SnodtB……..and for what???? you dumb a—- what do you know that others do not—I didn’t think you had anything—so just go off and say things you know nothing about.

          • Joltin Joe

            So telling the truth and exposing the corruption of the DNC, HRC and Podesta is ‘hacking’ here’s a thought, maybe stop lying and trying to manipulate the world and you won’t get called out on it. Good night snowflake!!!

          • Gay Veteran

            what hack? it was an inside leak.
            oh, but you won’t read that in the Washington comPost.
            plus the FBI says there was NO hack of the RNC computer system

          • horse777res

            Keep dreaming!!!!!

          • Mari

            They didn’t hack the DNC, they didn’t need to do so. Podesta and others were stupid enough to respond to phishing emails asking them to go to a website and reset their passwords. Wikileaks has also said the Russians weren’t the source of their information.

          • muldoon55 .

            Kinda like the MSM

          • LifeandLiberty

            You are guilty of spreading Fake News. The FBI and the RNC both have reported that there was NO hacking of the RNC. You nominated the worst candidate because simply because the candidate was a female. Your candidate then spent over a billion dollars and failed to campaign in the states that actually mattered in order to win the Electoral votes. Your candidate lost fare and square. Stop trying to make exusues for your own political party’s incompetence.

          • Del Austin

            they openly supported President Elect Trump yo make it appear that he was in their camp—but there still is no proof of any Russian hacking… give it a break-
            The CIA even said they found proof that Russian tried to hack the RNC but could not—-who is the smarter here.The truth is that killary and her gang are not nice people and with or without the emails that facts does not change

          • voltaic

            As you can see I have been proven right that the EC has had no problem electing trump. It was a done deal.They even elected Andrew Johnson for heaven’s sake. And why did you believe the FBI on Hillary and not the CIA on trump. Very selective.

          • Del Austin

            Richard right on—your point is what honest people should listening to and to the content of the emails—not the messenger

          • Gay Veteran

            Cheney = war criminal
            CIA = Criminals In America

          • Mark

            There was never any solid evidence that Russia hacked or interfered with the elections. Another excuse for the progressive left to stop Trump from being anugerated.

          • voltaic

            And there was never any proof that Clinton’s server was hacked, yet you believe it was. Why?

          • Mark

            It was hacked because the dumb
            b ! t c h HiLAIRy put classified and government emails on a private server. Oh, and the Democratic party back during the primaries said that they were not hacked which was a lie and now they said they were. They are using this scheme as another propaganda tool to throw the election just like they were trying to do by having 5 million illegals in sanctuary cities vote while 3 million dead democrats voted. THIS ELECTION WAS ABOUT 5 MAIN ISSUES MY LIBERAL LEFTIST MARXIST FRIEND.
            1. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND SANCTUARY CITIES.
            2. TOXIC TRADE POLICIES.
            3. LACK OF GOOD JOBS
            4. SUPREME COURT
            5. CORRUPT GLOBALISM
            ALL OF WHICH HILAIRY SUPPORTS. I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET YOU SUPPORTED THE LEFT WING LOON HILAIRY AND PROGRESSIVE MARXIST GLOBALIST AGENDAS. THIS IS WHY THE COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE
            S H 1 T T E R BIG TIME.

          • voltaic

            Those of you watching Fox, infowars, prison planet, and world net daily, STOP IT. It is corrupting your mind, or what is left of it. There are not a lack of good jobs, there are a lack of jobs for people with noor few skills. You want the free market but you want government involved in giivng corporations welfare to keep jobs. I could go on, but I would rather discuss this with a rational human being.

          • Mark

            Totally false and you need to be more educated on the situation. We have more part time jobs and low paying jobs while many god paying jobs have disappeared. Under Obozo. There have been 3 million less full time jobs since 2009 based on the Fed data. LPR the worst since 1970s while 14 million more on welfare. There was no recovery. I know people with chemical engineering degrees looking for work. Thst left wing propaganda BS you talk about is just that. The only ones looking are the uneducated and low skilled. False. Many are highly educated with many skills that cannot find work.

          • Del Austin

            your posts are getting dumber and dumber—do you really believe the stuff you post? Must have been the education —- teach what to think in place of how to think–some good education there—-the best thing to do is learn how to think for yourself—it may hurt for a while but you will feel better in a while

          • Mark

            OH, GET RID OF THE BIASED D. CHANEY PICTURE WHICH IS VERY OBVIOUS OF SOMEONE YOU DO NOT LIKE. WOULD RECOMMEND A PICTURE OF A
            (D O N K E Y ‘ S A S S) SINCE THAT IS A MORE APRORIATE FIT.

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          • voltaic

            I just want to make sure the unenlightened don’t forget history, since trump is trying to rewrite it.

          • Mark

            I know as much about history as YOU Mr. I hope TRUMP does rewrite history and makes a lot of changes that HiLAIRY would not have made. Maybe you forgot about Slick Willie and NAFTA or when he deregulates the Glass Stiegel Act of 1933 which contributed to the crash of 2007 or NAFTA which opened the borders and created sanctuary cities. Liberal tend to forget those things.

          • voltaic

            But you forget that it was a republican congress that put all those bills on Clinton’s desk. Sure he was at fault, but he wouldn’t be able to do it on his own. And you just elected a republican house and senate. Good luck….

          • Mark

            True and I am not going to argue with you on that one. Both parties are at fault but the reality is Democrats have become the Socialist Party while Republicans have become the party of nothing while both parties being controlled by globalism. Trump is the only alternative.

          • voltaic

            We shall soon see.

          • Del Austin

            very smart posting—-you are not the brightest bulb on the tree

          • Del Austin

            Do you understand history—the real honest history–not the leftie history? I believe true history is going to have a lot to record when nobama leaves the WH

          • voltaic

            So you have no proof but as the right does, you have conspiracy theories, false flags and fake news. That’s the trifecta.

          • Mark

            You are deflecting the issue. As I said there is NO evidence that the Russians hacked and influenced the election. Another liberal left wing propaganda tool used by the progressive left and Democrats to influence the election. During the Primaries the Democrats denied hacking and covered it up NOW they are accusing the Russians which is total
            B U L S H ! T. The Democrats have tried to rig the election from the beginning starting with the primaries and screwing over Bernie Sanders. During the presidential election 5 million illegals voting in sanctuary cities for democrats while 3 million dead democrats were able to vote. By the way they did a recount in Michigan and Trump received additional votes.
            This election was about 5 main issues:
            1. Illegal immigration, open borders and
            sanctuary cities.
            2. Toxic Trade Policies which will
            destroy jobs. TPP and TTIP.
            3. Supreme Court – Electing liberal left
            wing judges to change the
            constitution.
            4. Jobs – which means NO jobs. LPR
            worst since 1970s. St Louis FED
            reports 3 million less full time jobs
            since Obama has been in office 2009.
            5. Globalism – Toxic to the sovereignty
            of our nation. Get rid of the FED.
            I am not a fan of Clinton, Bush or Obozo. I probably dislike Obozo more than the other two clowns but they are all globalists with agendas that have hurt this country. I consider myself a Reagan Conservative with some libertarian mixed in so I you know I despise of progressive liberal Marxism and what the democratic party has been influence into.
            The Russians never hacked and all the information about HiLAIRy should have been open to the pubic to see how much of a narcissistic, deceitful, lying, piece of $ h ! T she really is. Anyone that incompetent and quite frankly stupid enough to use private email servers to pass confidential government information should not be president. That information was put on a PRIVATE server for anyone to hack. Julian Assange of WikiLeaks studied physics, mathematics, and computer engineering in college. He never graduated but is extremely intelligent as was Bill gates at MIT who never graduated. Assange was hacking government websites at 16 years of age. If that information was on a public server anyone can hack and that would have been a piece of cake for Assange.
            HiLAIRy Clinton will be indicted in 6 – 8 months due to all the illegal activity that was on those emails. She committed pay for play, used government severs illegally, committed money laundering under the Clinton Foundation, LIED, LIED, and LIED. Thank God for WikiLeaks.

          • Del Austin

            I think you are right on—this just follows what the left has done for at least the last eight years—-it may be very interesting to find out what has really been going on in the WH

          • Mark

            True, very true.. Have a good holiday and a safe one.

          • Del Austin

            because the FBI has shown proof—I think it must be hard for the left to understand facts—–must be that higher education they all say they have—-you know where they teach what to think in place of how to think. This education makes some stupid people

      • Joe Trevors

        Why don’t you tell us who is the head of the CIA? He is a MUSLIM of the Saudi Arabian type. Is his religion a secret? He was a Catholic. The Saudi Arabians provide ISIS. In fact why don’t you tell me why all the uproar about Russia? Isn’t Russia fighting ISIS in Syria? Russia is our ally to fight our enemy. Am I confused? Is Russia our enemy or is it ISIS?.

      • Joltin Joe

        You mean the fake FBI investigation into HRC the first time around? Where they weren’t allowed to interview her under oath, gave her associates immunity then let said associates act as her lawyer, no grand jury. Should I go on?

        • voltaic

          where’s your proof of wrongdoing? 11 investigations, millions of dollars wasted, first brought to your attention by that liberal news organization New York Times. There was nothing there except that created by right wing media. 3 emails out of 110,000 had a ‘c’ for confidential that were not treated as such. trump sucks up to a country that invades its neighbors and takes territory and you give them a thumbs up. Amazing stuff. If Obama did any of that you would be on him fro treason, but trump does it and it’s just fine. Hypocrisy so thick you can cut it with a knife.

          • Gay Veteran

            welll we have our resident DNC troll, or are you CIA?

          • RalphEllison

            The problem with you, Gay Vet, and others regarding Trump’s connections to the Russians is that he does, in fact, have disturbing connections to the Russians. Add to this the fact that he refuses to release his tax returns, which would give us a good look into his financial situation. Based on the work of some solid journalists looking at Trump’s businesses from a financial perspective, it appears Trump’s empire is heavily leveraged, and that he relies on a constant flow of revenue to keep his precarious finances afloat. The Russians are fully aware of this, and are prepared to take advantage of it.

            Just today, it is being reported by Newsweek that President Erdogan in Turkey arrested a key executive (on alleged sedition charges) in a family real estate empire in Turkey with whom Trump is working. Erdogan wants the U.S. to extradite a Muslim cleric whom Erdogan claims – without any proof – of being behind the alleged coup in Turkey earlier this year. Erdogan apparently believes he can hold Trump’s business interest hostage until he gets into office and sends the cleric back to Turkey.

            The bottom line is that this may be an attempt by the PTB to prevent Trump from taking office. However, he is doing himself no favors by engaging in shady business practices, not releasing his taxes, appointing billionaires and generals and know-nothings to his cabinet, and allowing his VP Pence to set forth a far right radical agenda that is NOT going to help the people.

          • Gay Veteran

            “The problem with you, Gay Vet, and others regarding Trump’s connections
            to the Russians is that he does, in fact, have disturbing connections to
            the Russians….”

            oh my, “disturbing connections”, you sound like another butthurt liberal

          • RalphEllison

            Hardly. I actually agreed with many of Trump’s position on the campaign trail. And I understand Putin’s view of NATO being aggressive towards Russia. What true patriots like me fear is the control of our POTUS by a foreign power.

            This is separate and apart from who actually flipped the election through electronic voting. It was the conservatives, as they did in Ohio in 2004. “The Russians did it” meme is not accurate. The Russians may have wanted Trump over Hillary, but the conservatives elite unAmericans DESPERATELY wanted Trump, whom they knew they could control through undisclosed evidence of his various financial and personal shortcomings.

            So, we are left with a POTUS who can and will be controlled by both Putin and conservatives. But, don’t let any of this trouble you.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…So, we are left with a POTUS who can and will be controlled by both Putin and conservatives….”

            so great you can see the future in your little crystal ball

          • Del Austin

            no one has been controlled more by foreign power than nobama—but that was small compared to what we would have seen with killary

          • Del Austin

            stupid post—a lot of wasted time—you can think what ever you wish—but remember that does not make it true

          • RalphEllison

            LMAO. Why did you even waste your time posting that empty drivel. You sound like a petulant child.

            As a true patriot, I WANT Trump to succeed, just like I wanted President Obama to succeed. I AGREED with many of the things Trump stated on the campaign trail, on both foreign and domestic issues. I didn’t vote for him because of his manifest character flaws.

            Now that he is about to become our POTUS, let’s pray for his success. Unfortunately, the appointment of billionaires and generals gives me pause.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…trump sucks up to a country that invades its neighbors and takes territory and you give them a thumbs up….”

            which neighbors would that be???
            sounds like you’re selling neo-con BS

          • voltaic

            Have you heard of Ukraine or Crimea?

          • nekksys

            And yet somehow you refuse to believe the US had anything to do with the rebellion in Ukraine? News flash, pumpkin; the US had a strong hand in Ukraine in an attempt to undermine Russia’s export of natural gas. Syria has long since been the opponent to a natural gas pipeline to the EU. Your government fomented a rebellion in both Syria and Ukraine in order to end Russia’s hold on natural gas in the EU and give that sweet cherry to Obummer’s buddies, the Saudis. The democratic vote to return the Crimea to Russia was just that, in spite of the US’s interference. You are chronically misinformed. You need to wake up from your Utopian dreams and actually educate yourself.

          • voltaic

            of course threats against Baltics, slaughter in Syria, strongman rule, arresting and killing dissidents and journalists, and hacking an American election are simply issues ot be ignored. trump has more support for russia than NATA and that’s ok too. Now put Obama’s face on trump and tell me you would be so ambivalent.

          • Gay Veteran

            yeah, shed some crocodile tears about Syria, where the U.S. is backing the terrorists.
            hacking? ROLFOL, where did you hear that? from the CIA? tell us again about those WMDs in Iraq

          • nekksys

            WTF does all that disconnected garbage have to do with anything? Typical Liberal: never rebutt a collection of facts just throw more disjoint conjecture and hope you cause enough confusion to end the discussion. Of course, then there’s the name calling and character attacks. Sorry, cupcake, I don’t quit so easily and you don’t know me at all so that whole “tell me you would be so ambivalent” is a stretch to say the least…

            Personally, I think government, on the whole, is nothing more publicly justified bullying and thievery. For the last 8 years, we’ve had some of the biggest liars, cheats and thieves in Congress but especially in the White House. Trump may not go down as the best president in history but he does say what he thinks and that speaks volumes to his value for TRUTH.

            Pretty much everything you spouted happens in the Middle East as well but apparently that’s OK because they supported Killary.

            Trump won the national election and Putin calls to congratulate him and formally request normalizing relations again. Ever wonder why? It wasn’t because of “hacking the election!” It was because Obama is so weak and divisive that Putin quit dealing with him.

            BTW, I love that whole “Russia hacked our election!” mantra. Shill Stein begged for money to do recounts which ended up revealing voter fraud … on behalf of the Democrats. No evidence of hacking was revealed. If there really was a “hacking” of our election results, where’s the evidence? I’ve heard the “It’s there! It’s just that no one has found it.” Then these hacking purporters point to Killary’s emails as evidence of Russia hacking the election. You mean those emails that were put out MONTHS before the election? Those emails?? Great job there, Sherlock. Here we go again with the disjoint conjecture…

            Maybe, now that the EC has had their say, your terrorist buddies and their free-loading families will go back to the crap hole they came from and take their intellectually vacant beliefs and culture with them. Maybe you and your other free-loading friend’s food stamps will get cut back, you’ll get off your collective backsides and go get jobs so societal necessities, like roads and bridges, can get the money needed to be rebuilt / repaired. AND… maybe, just maybe, our children will cease being fed the Libertarded garbage in school and we can get back to educating America’s future leaders rather than coddling them and teaching them to be VICTIMS!

          • Gay Veteran

            Crimea has been part of Russia longer than America has been a nation. And the people of Crimea VOTED to return to Russia.

            Heard about the neo-nazi backed coup in Ukraine, and the coup government which started persecuting Russian speaking people in eastern Ukraine.

          • Del Austin

            this post shows your stupid left side—for some one that claims to be educated — you sure do not sound very smart—where is your proof about Russia and President Elect Trump—I really like posting…..
            President Elect Trump—has a great sound to it

          • voltaic

            President elect trump who lost by 3 million votes and has a 42% approval rating has a wonderful sound to it if you are deaf to reality.

          • Jason Samuelson

            How about deleting 33,000 emails AFTER being subpoenaed by Congress? You’ve got a bad case of stupid and I don’t think anyone here can help you..move on to another blog, troll..

          • voltaic

            Just because I believe in facts, data and analysis doesn’t make me a troll! I’d take offense but I consider the source….

          • Jason Samuelson

            Well, it is a fact she deleted her emails AFTER being subpoenaed by Congress. I can’t fix your kind of stupid, and don’t think I haven’t tried…

          • Del Austin

            I think you would sound smarter as a troll.If you are not a troll than your posts are really stupid and dumb

          • voltaic

            If I was a troll, and I am, then I would not be here, but at a place where thought, debate and honest discussion of the facts were appreciated.

          • Del Austin

            you will never get it—-investigations by left sided and lead investigators and a DOJ that is just plain bad?????

      • guest

        Your rambling hysteria sounds just like Kieth Olberman.

        • voltaic

          Thank you!

      • Del Austin

        has anything been said about President Elect Trump working with Russia on election? I did not think so—without proof I want not except anything the CIA says—they answer only to the president and the current president is not to be trusted. If the emails contained the truth and honest information what is the problem — this would be information that should be known. If the DNC was no better than they were at security than so be it. But if the current president or any of the other people he is trying to protect — think they are going to steal this election—-they better think about that long and hard.

        • voltaic

          So you only believe the CIA when they agree with you. Nice.

  • I Think I’ll Eat Some Almonds

    This article makes me think that the countdown that was on here counting down to Mrs. Clinton being elected the next POTUS might not have been completely wrong.

    Like the above article concludes, “We don’t have to long to wait before we find out.”

  • socalbeachdude

    Madonna and Hillary: ‘Witch’ and ‘Nasty Woman’ as Sisters in Arms…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/11/arts/music/madonna-hillary-clinton-renegades.html

    • ter ber

      Where’s a good Deliverance Ministry when you need one?

      • Lennie Pike

        But Reynolds and his bow?

        • Lennie Pike

          Make that Burt. Must have been a Freudian slip.

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Trump stirs Taiwan controversy again by saying he might change US ‘one China’ policy if America doesn’t get a better deal

    President-elect Donald Trump has revived questions over his plans for the US-Chinese relationship by saying he might break the decades-long ‘one China’ policy depending on trade deals.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4022488/Trump-says-U-S-not-necessarily-bound-one-China-policy.html

  • socalbeachdude

    ‘Ridiculous’: Trump hits out at CIA claims that Russian hackers intervened in election to help him win

    Trump has hit out at claims by the CIA that Russian hacks on Democratic emails were made to help him win the presidency, and says Democrats are spreading the story to undermine him.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4022056/FBI-official-challenges-CIA-s-claim-Putin-led-hackers-wanted-Donald-President-shocking-meeting.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Promising no censorship, social network GAB draws ‘alt-right’…

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/promising-no-censorship-social-network-gab-draws-alt-061709406.html

  • socalbeachdude
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  • socalbeachdude

    Trump on Russia meddling in US election: ‘I don’t believe it’

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-russia-meddling-us-election-dont-believe-142014369.html

  • socalbeachdude
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    • Reese Daniel

      Real classy there, Colbert. You are a model of maturity and adulthood for us to follow…….not. These liberals are the biggest, most blatant hypocrites in all of history. They are literally blinded by their own arrogance and “elitism” and cannot see how STUPID they actually are.

  • socalbeachdude
    • Reese Daniel

      Projecting the truth of THEMSELVES onto their opponents is also a number one trait of psychopaths. Fake News (as in CNN/MSNBC/FOX etc) is indeed a threat to true adamite MANKIND, and TRUE NEWS (alternative) is a threat to CLUSTER B SERPENT SEED PREDATORS and their monkey dna parasitical enablers.

  • socalbeachdude

    MegaLiar Clinton Calls For Censorship Of ‘Fake News’

    http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55944

    • Reese Daniel

      Why? It’s already censored to the hilt. Controlled News Network, Faux News, and all the others read the AP/Reuters teleprompters like good little parrots and only tell us what the Rothschilds want us to know. CNN censored Hitlerys massive melt down, narcissitic RAGE, trying to beat up her campaign manager and throwing things and screaming after the election. Was witnessed by a CNN reporter but the owners of the media wouldn’t let him report on this. Completely censored. I don’t know what this woman is worried about. Fake News could not possibly be any more censored than it already is!

  • socalbeachdude

    Hillary Blasted For Comments About ‘Fake News Epidemic’

    https://sputniknews.com/us/201612091048352717-clinton-fake-news-backlash/

  • socalbeachdude

    Disgraced Ex-NBC Fake News Journalist Lyin’ Brian Williams On Crusade Against False Reporting

    https://www.rt.com/usa/369734-brian-williams-fake-news/

  • socalbeachdude
  • David

    The CIA seems to forget that they pretty much lost all credibility with the American public when they cried Wolf in regards to Saddam’s possession of WMD’S in Iraq.

    • 100

      and their propping up ISIS to destable Assad.

  • socalbeachdude

    Transcript Of Rush – ‘Mainstream Media Is Fake News’

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/12/09/mainstream_media_is_fake_news

  • socalbeachdude

    Tell The MSM Fake News Media Trump Names Most Female Members To Cabinet In History

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/12/someone-tell-fake-news-media-trump-appoints-female-members-cabinet-history/

  • socalbeachdude

    MORE FAKE NEWS FROM CNN (Clueless Nonsense Network)…

    Trump says he won’t have anything to do with The Celebrity Apprentice and slams CNN for spreading ‘fake news’ by saying he is still involved in the show

    Donald Trump has slammed CNN for hosting ‘fake news’ after the channel reported that he would continue to work on NBC’s reboot of The New Celebrity Apprentice.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4020630/Donald-Trump-says-won-t-Celebrity-Apprentice.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump wages war on the CIA after they conclude Russia DID intervene in the election to help The Donald win: President-elect’s team dismisses them as the ‘same people who said Saddam had WMDs’

    The CIA found that Russia’s interference with the presidential elections went beyond an attempt to undermine American democracy as a whole – and actively favored Donald Trump’s chances.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4019392/CIA-concludes-Russia-DID-intervene-elections-goal-helping-Trump-win.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Revealed: Clinton campaign’s demanded to silence MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski after she dared criticize Hillary’s ‘arrogance’

    MSNBC Host Mika Brzezinski said on Friday that Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign called NBC near the end of the election to say she needed to be pulled off the air.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4018770/Clinton-campaign-s-demand-silence-MSNBC-host-Mika-Brzezinski-revealed-dared-criticize-Hillary-s-arrogance.html

    • Reese Daniel

      They can’t handle the truth.

  • socalbeachdude
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  • socalbeachdude

    From Dagenham to the White House: The British TV executive and Falklands war veteran who is stage managing Donald Trump’s showy presidential inauguration

    Mark Burnett, 56, now based in LA, met up with the President-elect at Trump Towers to discuss ideas for the ceremony -including a helicopter ride to Washington from New York.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4022032/From-Dagenham-White-House-British-TV-executive-Falklands-war-veteran-stage-managing-Donald-Trump-s-showy-presidential-inauguration.html

    • 100

      wonderful, i hope he lays it on thick to throw one big F.U. to washington.
      And as for the usual grand ceremony of the existing president and his wife leaving the capital from the rear entrance via helicopter into the sunset . This should be replaced with a Greyhound bus with the destination “Kenya” on the front.

  • bobbi

    They tried Stein and it did not work so now this.

  • BS1986

    If they try to steal this from Trump they will ignite a Civil War in this country-these people are not playing. If their votes are ignored they have no choice but to fight.

    • ter ber

      Lol. Joe six-pack and Betha bag-a-doughnuts are going to fight? Was that between his kids soccer practice or her overnight shift at the nursing home?

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        more deplorable bashing , you must be a real hit at cocktail parties

      • BS1986

        HA Americans have been buying Guns at a record pace, did you think they were buying them for fun?
        I think Joe Six-Pack and Betha bag-a-donuts are fed up with this CRAP, they put Trump in office and if it is stolen from him they will shoot-I assure you.

        • ter ber

          40% of American Households own guns. Of that, 3% own 1/2 of American’s firearms.
          I am a conservative Christian 60 year old. Who has been trying to wake up people for for 40 years.
          Believe me, only a few would ever defend our former Republic. In fact, most will lick the enemies hand.

          • BS1986

            Also I own Guns when I am asked if I do-I SAY NO to those polls. There are a lot more- Gun owners than you think we just are not that vocal about it.

    • SnodtBlossom

      Impeach President PigBastard T.Rump!!!

      • ter ber

        Mr maturity just woke up.

        • SnodtBlossom

          That’s Ms.Snodt

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            no that’s whatever paid inept troll you are writing under on whatever site your using but come up with something original and intelligent please

          • SnodtBlossom

            I’m in Florida. You’re not. 🙂

          • Richard O. Mann

            They can’t impeach him. He is not sworn in as of yet. He is still president elect. Get your law books out.

      • BS1986

        I was thinking impeach the muslim hussain obozo

      • BS1986

        I think you leftwing idiots didn’t get the hint when Trump won-that people were tired of you. Yeah the British didn’t get the hint till they saw dead redcoats either.

      • Del Austin

        stupid post

    • Horiboyable .

      The founding fathers were smart about gun ownership.

  • Scott

    The FBI is actually in charge of counterintelligence and they disagree with the CIA that the Russians interfered with the election.

    • That is an absolute falsehood.

      Much like Dishonest Donald… you lie. The FBI and the CIA both accept that Putin followed Donald’s public request, “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you can find the 33,000 emails that
      are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily…”

  • Letfreedomring

    None of this is a surprise … the dems were talking about Russia influencing the election way before Nov. 8. All that noise was to create a tool. We all knew if Trump won they would use that tool to try to invalidate the election. If Hillary had won, that tool would have been quietly buried.

    • Reese Daniel

      That “tool” is called “perception management” which is a form of mind control used by all Cluster B psychopath types (which most of the democrats fall under). Neanderthal dna in most of them, that’s why you can’t reason with them. The literally cannot SEE or HEAR the truth, only lies make sense to their reptilian brains.

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Russian Hackers and American Hacks – Wall Street Journal

    The CIA that misjudged Putin for years is now sure of his motives.

    Somewhere in the Kremlin Vladimir Putin must be laughing. The Russian strongman almost certainly sought to undermine public confidence in American democracy this year, and as the Obama Administration leaves town it is playing into his hands.

    That’s the real story behind the weekend reports that U.S. intelligence services have concluded that Russia intervened to assist Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. The stories are attributed to “senior administration” officials who won’t go on the record but assert murky details that are impossible to verify without seeing the evidence.

    Mr. Trump is denouncing the claims with his usual subtlety, but he has a point about their timing and nature. “I don’t want anyone hacking us,” Mr. Trump said on Fox News Sunday, while blaming the leaks on Democrats. “I think it’s ridiculous” and “I don’t believe it.”

    Democrats are still in shock from their defeat, and many want to add the Kremlin to FBI Director James Comey, fake news and the Electoral College as excuses that cast doubt on the legitimacy of Mr. Trump’s victory.

    The new information in these latest stories is less about new intelligence than it is a judgment about Russian motives. Other sources who have seen the intelligence say there’s strong evidence that actors linked to high-level Russian officials hacked the Democratic National Committee (DNC) website. The Russians then posted them on sites they set up or handed them to WikiLeaks, though even the WikiLeaks transfer isn’t known for sure. The Administration made public the conclusion about the DNC hack months ago.

    The difference now is that the intelligence community is said to have concluded with “high confidence” that the Russians did the hacking to help elect Mr. Trump. But we’re told the evidence for this conclusion is far from definitive, and multiple intelligence services offered no such judgments when briefing the House Intelligence Committee on the election-related hacks last week.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-hackers-and-american-hacks-1481499091

    • Horiboyable .

      It’s called propaganda

      • Lennie Pike

        It HAS been proven that the DNC unfairly influenced their own primary to give Clinton the win over Sanders – so since they now demand fair elections (insert a big belly laugh) why don’t they take first things first and do their primary vote over again?

    • Gay Veteran

      the same “intelligence” community that had “high confidence” that Saddam had WMD

  • mister_roboto

    So…the Russians unfairly influenced the election…by doing the job US journalists should have been doing in digging up the truth. How on Earth does this invalidate anything other than the veracity of our political class?

    • Horiboyable .

      The UK government tried to stop RT broadcasting here in the UK by cancelling their bank accounts at NATWEST Bank. TBH here in the UK its the only news channel I trust here in the UK. The BBC is a disgrace and ITV and CH4 are nothing but cheerleaders for the EU. The west is in a process of collapse and I think the end is near. I for one can not wait to get on the streets.

    • Reese Daniel

      And the lamestream media’s CONTINUOUS, SHAMELESS, OVER THE TOP, DISGUSTING, SHILLING FOR HITLERY was all fair and square I suppose. No “unfair influence” there. What a joke these sub humans are. They have no ability to think rationally.

  • DJohn1

    After thought: There has to be a reason why powerful and wealthy people beyond our ability to imagine, suddenly want to directly rule the government in D.C. I think it goes beyond anything we have seen in our history.
    These people make more in a day than I have earned in a lifetime.
    Stealing millions would be petty change to some of these individuals and beneath them.
    No, there is something really strange going on here.
    It will be very entertaining to see how this all plays out.

    • SnodtBlossom

      I don’t find it entertaining, but at least you get it.
      T.Rump is like the freakin Borg. He is extremely rich.

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        Snodtty, don’t worry and resistense is futile but you won’t be assimilated

    • ter ber

      You said it in your first sentence wealth and POWER.

  • barry oldwater

    And it couldn’t be a more perfect setup, Obama has been over the top on grace and cordiality towards Trump, even calling for people on the left to accept him as president. If it comes back and I would not be surprised if it did that they say the numbers were false because of outside influence, I expect Obama to tell the people on the right to look at how nice he was when Trump was thought to be president and that now we should show the same niceties since it is actually Hillary that is president. This whole thing stinks. If John McCain is on the bipartisan commission looking into this as a Republican he is not for trump, he is for Hillary, I wouldn’t trust anything he says, the bipartisan committee should consist of people nominated by Hillary and trump, not by the current administration.

  • Thomas D Guastavino

    So re-hold the election. Love to see her beaten worse this time.

  • ter ber

    Chilling. Well it seems Trump is not fully draining the swamp, but is incorporating another section of the global elite into the swamp, I believe they (the puppet masters) are unsure they would ever have total control over him. So they must try to unseat him at all costs. Trump did not get the memo from Bill Clinton or Jesse Ventura when they proclaimed at a certain level
    All decisions are made for you.
    When Ventura became the 1st Independent Governor of the state a Minnesota. He was surprised to find his 1st meeting was with the dark suits of the CIA. And could not believe they were imbedded with state Governments. He never revealed anything further on the subject.
    Kiss our Republic goodbye people, it’s been over for a long time

  • Dan-

    desolve the CIA and NSA and make it illigal for them to operate it will cost billions but you have to spend it to drain the swamp

  • Mark B

    I’m not sure whether Putin tried to influence the US Presidential race.
    But I’m damned sure that Obama tried to influence the UK Referendum. Isn’t it IRONIC.

    • Horiboyable .

      Obama is a clown. When he came over here and threatened us with trade, I felt like I was being jacked on the streets of Compton

    • Reese Daniel

      No, just more liberal “do as I say, not as do” hypocrisy. It’s utterly mind boggling how blind these people are to their OWN faults and failures, which are NUMEROUS.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    Where is the Proof?

    • socalbeachdude

      There isn’t any proof at all as to anything regarding the bogus allegations made against Russia.

  • PointBlankZA

    The people of the US have spoken and they voted Trump, so on whose behalf is Obama and Killery doing this for? Those who lost? LMAO… You can’t make this stuff up.

  • Rjack

    These people are stoking the wrong fire, if this is their plan the whole country will revolt against government politicians and hanging will be to easy a punishment.

    • Reese Daniel

      Yes there are a lot of tall bridges in the US.

  • Mr.Cipher

    Nov 9, 2016 – President Barack Obama spoke Wednesday about Republican Donald Trump’s election victory, saying he will work hard to ensure a smooth transition to the new administration.

    Liar liar pants on fire.

    The recount didn’t work. Plan B Russian hackers….

    The DNC are a bunch of low life scum bags!

  • autofixer

    The Russians elected Trump. This will simply be a Demoncrat fundraising cry and mantra for the next 4 years. This will be along the lines of: “Bush was selected, not elected.” By the way, Trump is the establishment. His Cabinet is as vanilla Republicrat as they come. Same as it ever was.

    • Reese Daniel

      Yes these liberals are such whiney, spoiled, babies with ZERO class. They all have the mentality of a 5 year old spoiled brats. If the republicans had behaved this way when Barry Soetoro from Kenya was selected, I can’t even imagine the outcry of these hypocrites.

  • jakartaman

    This is exactly why we have and keep a 2nd amendment.
    To remove a corrupt government.
    I don’t think our military or law enforcement folks would allow this either.

  • voltaic

    You two bit conspiracy freaks ignore everything but the lies you tell yourself. You pick two things out of a hat and then spout them like they are all that CIA has done in past 40 years. Bush missed 9/11 since he was briefed on it and ignored it. It was OK for FBI to manipulate election and you all bought it as fact, but when CIA says trump was working with russia to hack election you blame the CIA! You are all hypocritical losers and outright frauds.

    • Gay Veteran

      poor thing, there’s an epidemic of butthurt going around the libtards

  • Rhino Horns

    I have doubts that Trump will be inaugurated. A 15 year old Jewish boy had a near death experience in Jerusalem on the last super blood red moon on September 28, 2015. He said that God told him that Obama is GOG, from Ezekiel 38-39. If that is true, then Obama has a prophetic destiny to fulfill, and he IS so worthy of destruction.

    • Gay Veteran

      bilge

  • Leslie Brant

    That’s what they want is for Americans to rise up. That’s their agenda. Don’t do it. The communists, globalists are afraid of what trump will find out. They’re running scared and will not stop until they can keep him out of office!
    Pray for Mr. Trump and his team!

  • Mr.Cipher

    Clinton ” Trump questioning the election results is a threat to Democracy ”
    What a bunch of hypocrites.

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    WARNING WARNING, more possible fake news to re-focus the DNC’S screw up on why they really lost the election, they really are a bunch of amateurs and incompetents when it comes to political strategy and reading the pulse of the electorate

    • Del Austin

      liz when you think you have purchased the election-but find out there were not enough illegals and dead voters to over come the real American vote–it must be really upsetting

  • Richard O. Mann

    I hear the locking and loading of many many weapons across America. If any of this happens, we may witness “Civil War, part 2” here in the US. But, I really believe that is what Obama and the Demoncrats want.

  • alan

    I think Soros is throwing doo doo at the wall to see what sticks. Notice how noting is said about foreign governments giving money to Hillary.
    Next up, Bigfoot stuffing ballot boxes for Trump. Snake flu causes voters to vote for Trump.

  • Chris Gerber

    I’ll just say that if Trump is not going to be President, that may incite a civil war. Just an observation.

    • BB

      May?

      • Chris Gerber

        Yes.. may.. considering all of the detractors for that scenario.

    • Mr.Cipher

      The working class vs the welfare class. That’s way over due. The working class is out numbered but would still win.

      • Reese Daniel

        Working class = Host Welfare class = Parasites

      • Chris Gerber

        I am assuming that your reference to the welfare class being those of the Democratic party side, but I think it will be more involved and/or inclusive than that even.

  • socalbeachdude

    BITTER: Congressman begs Electoral College voters to block Trump…

    CIA pushes ‘conspiracy theory’…

    White House says Trump benefited…

    Electors want briefing before vote…

    Clinton camp backs…

    CNN HOST: Trump win a ‘national emergency’…

    http://nypost.com/2016/12/12/congressman-begs-electoral-college-voters-to-block-trump/

  • Joe Trevors

    Mr. Voltaic: Is there a conspiracy you believe in? Is it a conspiracy to say Russia hacked U.S. elections?

    • voltaic

      Honestly, Mr. Trevors, it has gotten to the point where the right sees everything as either a false flag or a conspiracy. If everything is a conspiracy or flase flag than nothing is real. It’s not easy to hide or manage a lie for too long without someone telling the truth or screwing up the lie, especially in today’s environment. Show me the facts and I’ll make a decision. Fantasy is for Disney…..

      • Joe Trevors

        That is a good point. You are thinking pretty deeply. Perhaps it is not revealed to us who is really behind certain activities or events? Too often there is a rush to judgment about who is behind executing a particular event. In other words, we can never hope to understand the full explanation of anything. At the very most, we see only part of the picture. Is this part of what you are referring to?

        • voltaic

          That’s a good analysis. We are certainly only given pieces and in today’s environment it’s often manufactured to fit a partisan meme that benefits the elites of one partyor another.

          I often use the ‘Occam’s razor approach. ‘a principle from philosophy. Suppose there exist two explanations for an occurrence. In this case, the simpler one is usually better. Another way of saying it is that the more assumptions you have to make, the more unlikely an explanation is. Occam’s razor applies especially in the philosophy of science, but also more generally.’

  • aldownunder

    Those pesky Ruskies

  • billtheguy

    The electoral college, or at least 12 members, want a briefing on this Russian Hacking? Led by none other than Pelosi’s daughter. How convenient. Let’s see some proof, publicly.

    • JC Teecher

      It is all a sham scam by the liberal elites, to try and throw mud pies in the face of all the trump thumpers.
      DT will be sworn in on jan 20th, and the cry babies will pi$$ and moan for another 3 years and 11 months.

      Make a note, and get back to me, if I haven’t gone dark or got (“raptured”…sarc off) the call I have been waiting for; as, DT will only have four years to do his stuff.

      The Libs will make sure there is a different result in 2020.

      • Reese Daniel

        Yeah by then this country will be over run with welfare babies and illegal anchor babies and the “old school” human beings with critical thnking skills and basic common sense will be near extinction level. I hope I’m gone before then. I really do hope for a rapture, no sarcasm whatsoever.

        • JC Teecher

          We are gonna 110% sure gonna get a rapture/change into spirit bodies at the seventh trump, (not the sixth when Satan comes), and we will see things for what they really are.

          The sad part is; a large majority have fallen for the deception created by Satan, for a pre-trib rapture/ change, when he arrives at the sixth trump.

          It will not happen, but the delusioned will go out and do the work of the devil of turning in the names of all that do not follow his false agenda, in hopes his
          “follow me, and I’ll rapture you agenda”, comes true.
          Watch for it, and pray you are found worthy to escape those things.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        RAPTURE There Ya Go Again….RAPTURE RAPTURE RAPTURE…Get Back On That Basketball !!!

        • JC Teecher

          As a “realist”; and follower of truth in Yahweh’s Word, I can’t stop speaking truth just to satisfy a few people hung up on a false doctrine.
          That false doctrine, mr. bill, is only about the timing of the “change” (called rapture, but does not include any flying away).

          So according to you and all the pre-tribbers, the following scripture is incorrect?

          1Co 15:52
          In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

          If the last trump does “not” mean the Seventh, then how many Trumps are there? Eight, Nine, Ten, or how many does fit into your narrative?
          There is your basketball.
          And for emphasis, I’ll throw in a soccer ball for ya. Where in Yahweh’s Word, does it say that the change happens at the “sixth” trump, when Satan arrives as Antichrist?

          For the doctrine, that you and the other pretribbers follow, to be true; there has to be a change into spirit bodies by a select few, at, or just prior to the Sixth. I have searched the KJV for over 15 years, and have not been able to find it.

          I used to wonder why, but now I know why….because it just isn’t there, but the so-called preacher teachers try to wedge it in so that people with itchy ears and open wallets, will flock to their sermons.
          The saga of the security blanket sermons continue at a rapid pace, which is why God called the last day church, one of a “luke-warm”, laodicean style.

          Want a binky to go with that blankey?

  • JC Teecher

    I have very little faith nor belief that Trump will ever have time to help get this country to become great again. In fact, to the dismay of the “trump thumpers”, he will help drive our National Debt, through the roof.

    Corporate profits will soar, and some jobs will be added, but at what expense to the taxpayers?

    Of course, a trump dynasty with all the elite privileges, is still better than the liberals making us more like the heathen nations of old, that just wanted to sacrifice innocent children/babies, have sex with every kind of abominable flesh that could be imagined, while creating more and more welfare states.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Still Bashing Trump Go Get Your Basketball….You Know What To Do With It !!.

      • JC Teecher

        I luv Mr. and Mrs. Trump, but Mike Huckabee would have been a better choice for potus.
        How is that for bashing?

  • Gay Veteran

    we all know Bush the Stoopid ignored the reports

  • Rick

    And if Trump clears the Dec 19th hurdle, and the Jan. 6th hurdle, all is not assured. Remember the secret clause of Congress stating that on January 10th if there is snow in Minnesota, then they can call for a new presidential election. And if there is no snow in MN on the 10th, if there is sunshine in Florida on January 11th, the Republican candidate for president the previous October is automatically disqualified. And if by chance he does clear ALL obstacles and makes it thru Inauguration Day, and is sworn in, he can be sworn out if Ground Hogs day happens to fall in February…. Are you starting to get the drift?

  • democratsAREracist

    the stock market would tank, people would go on strike and unleash their inner meany-ness.

  • horse777res

    Trump has done his homework, won’t happen!!!!

  • Unarmed and pissed

    I would strongly advise not to attempt to take this election away from Trump.

  • Reese Daniel

    I’ve also heard rumours of them planning an EMT and there are alot of fact based rumours about a Pole Shift caused by the oceans jet streams slowing way down. Probably from all the Fukushima nuclear waste still being pumped into the Pacific and NOT reported on by lamestream media whores.

  • Reese Daniel

    Where is a “Lee Harvey Oswald” when we REALLY need one??

  • socalbeachdude

    LUNATIC DEMOCRATS GO STARK RAVING BONKERS…

    BITTER PODESTA QUESTIONS ELECTION LEGITIMACY…

    Obama moves to undermine Trump victory…

    WASH POST TUES: Russian hacks ‘prioritized’ Democrats…

    CNN: Is this a ‘national emergency?’

    CONFUSION: Earnest says CHINA did the hacking…

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/confusion-wh-spokesman-claims-china-hacked-election/

  • socalbeachdude

    DESPERATE LOSER DEMOCRATS GO WHACKADOODLE

    Democrats’ all-out bid to smear Trump’s victory as Clinton campaign backs electoral college members demanding intel briefing on Russian hacking before they vote

    Donald Trump’s election victory’s legitimacy came under sustained attack from Democrats on Monday. Ten members of the electoral college are making a dramatic call to be briefed on intelligence claims that Russia tried to interfere with the election – and being backed by Hillary Clinton’s campaign boss, John Podesta.

    The Clinton campaign chair has thrown himself behind the effort in the second part of the Democrat assault. It claims to be bipartisan but is actually made up of nine Democrats and a ‘never-Trump’ Republican. The person pushing the demand is Christine Pelosi, daughter of Democratic house minority leader Nancy Pelosi (who are seen together, right). The group’s demand is a clear attempt to discredit Trump and – they hope – to sway electors who are not compelled to cast their vote in line with the election results in their state. And as the day unfolded, White House spokesman Josh Earnest attacked Trump for refusing to accept the CIA’s claim that Russia hacked because it wanted to influence the election in the Republican’s favor. ‘He called on Russia to hack his opponent,’ Earnest said, in the third wave of Dem attacks. Trump has rejected claims of Russian involvement and said if the tables were turned ‘it would be called conspiracy theory!’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4026248/Clinton-campaign-backs-call-ten-electors-intel-briefing-vote.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump WINS the recount! Jill Stein left looking a fool as he GAINS votes in Wisconsin – and judges shut down Green loser’s other bids to overturn election

    Donald Trump ended up gaining 123 votes in Wisconsin after a recount sought by Green Party candidate Jill Stein whose donors footed the bill for the move to give even more votes to the winner.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4025168/Judges-decision-expected-Pennsylvania-recount-case.html

  • Joe Vasquez

    CIA claims without a single shred of evidence…pure conjecture and speculation…We The People have to wonder WHY the political establishment fears the truth(s) revealed in Wikileaks, most especially the exposure of the secret culture of pedophilia that has been revealed by the Wikileaks dumps. They will continue pushing (hard) the “Fake News” narrative until they are satisfied that they successfully brainwashed the public against Wikileaks. One has to wonder what’s at stake for those who are desperate to succeed with this narrative and how deep is their involvement in this secret culture of pedophilia?I

  • Roman

    So I guess what we really have is a hidden agenda or “behind the scenes” battle going on between nefarious psy-op institutions to interfere in the US elections i.e. Republicans in the FBI and Democrats in the CIA and both are playing the game to their preferred party’s advantage.

  • A guy from Ukraine

    All of this “russian interference” rhetoric is nothing short of another stark reminder for Mr. Trump to comply with the agenda. In other words, “do as you are expected to do or the Matrix will get you”.

  • Nunn

    Get ready for the greatest civil war the world has ever seen!

  • Carlos Jurew

    So, the CIA claims this to be true? And I guess the NSA and Homeland Security agree? Where were these organizations when the alleged dirty deeds were being performed by the Russians?? WOW! Some kind of “Security” and “Intelligence” we have protecting us!!!! What a JOKE!
    Illegal aliens were allowed to vote….but the Russians are barred?

  • RalphEllison

    No, it’s not “well documented.” It’s a bunch of lies conjured up by the Wall St./Big Business elite and their conservative henchmen in the GOP.

    Now, what is your position on Trump being controlled by the Russians (you obviously don’t care that he eill be controlled by Wall St.)?

    • Joltin Joe

      Yeah that trail of bodies that all died suspiciously is all lies. I didn’t vote for Trump, you see, I have a brain. I can see R and D for what they are. CORRUPTED to the core. HRC was the worst case scenario, I’m glad they #DumpedThatCunt. Trump isn’t going to make america great again, but if he can clean up washington even a little, I’m for that. Trump is not controlled by the Russians, HRC and Podesta have more ties to Russia then trump. But I guess you’re cool with her pay to play scams over at the foundation. What a good little party bitch you are

      • RalphEllison

        I’m not sad Hillary lost. She ran a not great campaign. It should have been Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. But, the Clinton machine took over the DNC right after the 2012 election.

        Trump is surrounded by Russian connects. This has been talked about for months. I’ll ignore the balance of your idiotic comments regarding bodies. I take it you took out your old Jerry Falwell VHS copy of the Clinton Chronicles from the 1990s. Tool.

        • Joltin Joe

          Biden and Warren, now there’s a team of clowns if I ever saw one

  • andywade

    “Couldn’t they just begin this review now and have it completed at some point under the Trump administration”
    That, right there, is the stupidest thing you’ve said yet. You dont think a president who owed his job to the Kremlin would bury such a review? (Not to mention those who completed it)

  • filehawg

    This is a TERRORIST PLAN to TAKE OVER AS a DICTATOR!!! Obama NEEDS to be STOPPED!!! NOW!!!

  • JSF

    WHEN! are those WORTHLESS DUMBOCRATS going to STOP
    and ADMIT DEFEAT you bag of SCUM!!!

  • steve larsen

    Bob Baer is a leftist/globalist piece of garbage. CIA is a bunch of mafia thugs wrapped in American flags. There is no provision anywhere in constitution to call new election…that is just Baer/CIA bovine excrement. The states have certified their votes and electoral college votes for trump. Any foolish attempt by Congress to override will trigger a civil war with congressmen being first casualties.Author seems to be into promoting anxiety. This voltaic guy seems like a real nut.

  • Rhonda Beebe

    If there was hacking….it was only to show the TRUE and honest corruption of the elite DEMOCRATIC PARTY and a few old establishmentioned Rinos. We are talking about corruption that happened regardless of whether it was leaked by someone or not!!! Why are we not talking about the content of these emails from Hillary Clinton and Podesta???? Why are they not in prison???
    Plus the facts that Obama has a forged birth certificate ……. all of this is being swept under the rug……God help us!

  • Del Austin

    It makes you think there must be lots of stuff to keep “covered” up if they think they have to keep someone from gets close to the WH—I think we have a right to know what has been going on in the WH for the past eight years. If the left does anything the steal this election away–America must rise up—and take our country back

  • used_to_be_a_liberal

    TOO LATE!!! Trump has been confirmed by the E C . He is now on the way to be sworn in on Jan. 20th 2017. The nonsense is over.

  • Del Austin

    that is bs—-there are many with masters out there looking for work—some are working fast food–to have some kind of income—-the US is much worst now after eight years of nobama

    • voltaic

      I know. Data, analysis and facts are terrible things. Anecdotal evidence, fake news and conspiracy are much better ways to make decisions.

  • Del Austin

    if Mr. Brennan is or is not—why does he not just tell us? I would believe if he is trying to keep anything from the America People by not saying either way–he is muslim

    • voltaic

      And trump is a psychotic liar, so we are even?

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