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The Pope Is Completely Wrong About Capitalism And Inequality

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Pope Francis - Photo by Tania RegoOn Monday, the following message was posted on the Pope’s official Twitter account: “Inequality is the root of social evil.”  This follows on the heels of several other extremely harsh statements that he has made about capitalism over the past year.  The Pope appears to believe that inequality is one of the greatest evils that humanity is facing.  So if we redistributed all money and all property and made sure that everyone had an equal amount, would that wipe out social evil?  Of course not.  Such a notion is absolutely absurd.  Being the Pope, he should know that the evil that we see all around us is not the result of the distribution of wealth.  Rather, it is the result of humanity’s deep rebellion against God.  Yes, the fact that the wealth of the planet is being increasingly funneled to a very small minority at the top of the pyramid is a major problem.  This is something that I have written about repeatedly.  But the answer is not to make sure that everyone has the exact same amount of money and property.  In the end, that would only turn us into North Korea.

In case you missed it, here is the tweet by the Pope that is causing such an uproar…

https://twitter.com/Pontifex/status/460697074585980928

By itself, that statement could perhaps be “interpreted” a number of different ways.  But this follows other statements by the Pope that make it exceedingly clear what he is talking about.  Here is one example

Just as the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say “Thou shalt not” to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills. How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points? This is a case of exclusion. Can we continue to stand by when food is thrown away while people are starving? This is a case of inequality.

Yes, the Pope is correct to highlight the plight of the homeless and the needy.  Even in “wealthy America”, we have an epidemic of hunger.  This is something that I wrote about yesterday.

And yes, the Pope is correct to point out society’s obsession with the stock market.  Personally, I have been relentless in criticizing the big Wall Street banks.

But the solution is not to take everything away from everybody and put it into a giant pile and redistribute it equally.

History has shown us what happens when a society adopts an extreme form of socialism or communism.

The incentive to work is destroyed, the incentive to create new ideas and new businesses is destroyed, and living standards for everyone go down.

Please don’t think that I am defending our current system.  What we have in the United States today is not the kind of pure capitalism that our founders intended.  Instead, it is a form of collectivism where nearly all of the economic power is now in the hands of giant collectivist institutions.  That includes public collectivist institutions (the government) and private collectivist institutions (large corporations).  In this type of economic environment, it should not be a surprise that government dependence is at an all-time high, the number of Americans that are self-employed is at an all-time low and millions of small businesses are being regulated out of existence.

Collectivism, socialism and communism are all close cousins.  People are promised that such systems will result in greater “equality”, but it never seems to actually work out that way.  Instead, the small elite that hold all the power usually end up enjoying the vast majority of the benefits.

And without a doubt, as the power of the government and the power of the corporations has increased, inequality has been rising.  Just check out the following chart from a new book by 42-year-old French economist Thomas Piketty entitled “Capital In The Twenty-First Century“…

Thomas Piketty Inequality

As I write this, Pinketty’s book is the number one seller on Amazon.  That is pretty remarkable for an economics treatise.  But Pinketty fails to realize what actually caused U.S. income inequality to start skyrocketing in 1971.  As Brian Domitrovic recently detailed, that was the year when the U.S. completely went off the gold standard and the Federal Reserve started running wild…

The big switch to the foundation of the American financial structure at the advent of this period was the U.S. decision in 1971 to go off the gold standard. Before that time, it was basically clear that outside of wartime (when gold-standard conventions were often suspended), you could basically count on the dollar holding its value against major things like the consumer price level, foreign currencies, and commodities such as gold itself.

After 1971, in contrast, it became basically clear that you could count on no such thing. The CPI might go up 125% in one decade (as it did 1971-1981), the dollar could permanently lose 66% against major currencies (as it did against the yen in this period), and commodities could shoot up ten-to twenty-five fold (as was the case with oil and gold).

Therefore a new day in financial planning also arrived. Suddenly the importance of simply saving money diminished. Money that was saved also had to be hedged. If you simply saved money after 1971, you stood to get killed as the dollar lost value against things it was supposed to be able to procure in the future.

This is where the financial services industry began its long march upward in the share of U.S. economic output it gobbled up. People who had significant money—the rich—threw their money into the products offered by the financial sector, in that the worst thing to happen to a fortune diligently built up over the years would be to see it frittered away on account of currency depreciation.

So much has gone wrong since 1971.  Out national debt has gotten more than 40 times larger, our economic infrastructure has been absolutely gutted and the value of the U.S. dollar has declined by well over 80 percent.

Once again, we need to go back to a system that much more closely resembles what our founders intended.

Did you know that the greatest period of economic growth in U.S. history was when there was no income tax, no IRS and no Federal Reserve?

We could have such a system again.

But the solutions being proposed by the mainstream media, our politicians and even the Pope involve even more centralization of economic power.

If we follow this path to the end, we will ultimately become like North Korea.

It is hard to describe the crushing poverty that exists in that hellhole of a country.  In North Korea, there is so little electricity that the country appears almost totally dark from space at night.  Just check out this picture taken by NASA…

North Korea At Night

North Korea may have more “equality” than we do, buy in that country “a ballpoint pen is considered a luxury item“.  Here is much more on what life is like for ordinary people inside North Korea from the New York Post

Jobs often come without salaries. Those who do get a paycheck, earn, on average, between $1,000-2,000 a year. Food and clothing are rationed by the government.

Most North Koreans have access to that one TV station and one newspaper, both state-run; they are told that their country is the only functioning and prosperous nation on Earth and that outside rages an apocalypse. Only elites are allowed cellphones, but they can just make calls or text — there is no Internet.

Would you like to live in such a society?

When you take away the incentive to work and the incentive to create, you end up with a much poorer society.  Without outside help, much of North Korea would have already starved to death by now

“The majority of North Koreans believe completely in the regime,” says Barbara Demick, a Seoul-based journalist and author of “Nothing to Envy: Ordinary Lives in North Korea.”

“They are barely surviving,” she says. “Only the rich can afford to eat rice. They’re in a chronic state of food shortage.”

The average citizen eats twice a day — a manageable state of affairs for citizens who lived through the great famine of the ’90s, which reduced millions of people to eating tree bark and plucking undigested kernels of corn from animal excrement.

Yes, something needs to be done about the rising level of income inequality in our country.  The middle class is being systematically destroyed and most of our politicians do not seem to care.  Some big steps in that direction would be going back to a much purer form of capitalism, shutting down the Federal Reserve, changing laws to shift power much more in the direction of individuals and small businesses, and ending the practice of shipping millions of our good paying jobs to communist nations such as China.

We also need a massive shift in our culture.  We need to shift away from a culture of greed and selfishness to a culture of love, compassion and generosity.  Those that have been blessed have a responsibility to be a blessing.  That is something that we have largely forgotten.

But trying to use government and taxation to wipe out inequality never works and will only make society poorer.  This is a lesson that Barack Obama, the Democrats, the Republicans, the mainstream media and the Pope all desperately need to learn.

  • Bubba Johnson

    “The American dream is not that every man must be level with every other
    man. The American dream is that every man must be free to become
    whatever God intends he should become.”
    Wish he would pay more attention to the priests that molest children.

    • Eifn

      Wish you could stop believing media lies priests are not pedophiles. Their are more pedophiles in school systems why don’t you. Focus on that. Church has done enough to fight it!

  • kfilly

    I agree that we need to change to a freer society. Our politicians, media, and Pope will never see the light. It is all about greed and power. The aforementioned individuals are not on the side of the people. It is as simple as that.

  • Rodster

    Pope Gary2

    • LIBERALMENSWALLOWSEMENDAILY

      gary2poop

    • Syrin

      lol, yep. Facts don’t matter.

    • 2Gary2

      I love this pope.

  • Priszilla

    So, you are proud that the US is better than North Korea.

    WHAT AN ACHIEVEMENT !

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Actually, I am concerned that we are on the road to becoming just like North Korea.

      Michael

      • Priszilla

        And you think, you are still on the road?

      • Adrian

        That’s a little extreme, isn’t it?

        • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

          We wouldn’t get there tomorrow, but that is the long-term path that we are on.

          Michael

          • Adrian

            How so?

          • Aaron

            Dollar devalued 80% in last few decades, largest creditor nation now largest debtor, worlds largest middle class now largely welfare dependent, civil rights being completely abolished, mindless populations believes whatever the television tells them while federal reserve prints trillions to offshore nations wealth, all the gold is gone just ask germany, like he said, wont happen tomorrow but how long till it looks like NK when the dollar crashes, oil spikes and the trucks dont ship in the food. Its a lot more like NK than it used to be, lets change course and make sure it never happens.

          • Adrian

            So we’re going to have a dynastic Great Leader appointed to rule over us under a Stalinist dictatorship just because the economy is on the fritz?

          • Richard

            YES

          • Backdoor Barry

            Clearly Obama is already using agencies of the government to target
            political opponents (IRS). He’s changing laws already on the books that
            he doesn’t agree with (ACA, Immigration, Defense of Marriage Act) A
            president cannot stop enforcing laws simply because he doesn’t agree
            with them – That is the road to tyranny

            So yes, this is exactly how dictatorships start, baby steps. If you can’t see that, then maybe it’s because you agree with it.

          • Adrian

            1) If you think I agree with it, you haven’t been paying attention to my posts. 2) I think it’s childish and naïve to think all dictatorships act alike and behave in the same way, and that all states that have crises all have the same endpoint.

          • Richard

            Of course dictatorships do not all come about in the SAME manner, But Dictatorship is Dictatorship whether it is Fascist, Communist or Totalitarian. The people Lose all freedom and are impoverished and have No say in the course of their God given lives.

          • Adrian

            Sheldon Wolin argues in his book Democracy Incorporated that we have corporate totalitarianism already in place; fascism with a friendly face. What are your thoughts on this argument?

          • Richard

            That sounds about right as far as corporate totalitarianism goes, yes. But this Nation was founded as a Republic and not a Democracy. The Republic has been Hijacked by Wall Street (Banksters), so the Republic has been gone for quite some time now, maybe decades, but became obvious after They perpetrated 911.

          • K2

            You dont want america to be a democracy?

          • Richard

            No. I want it to be a Republic as it was founded by our founding by our nations fathers.

          • Richard

            No. I want our Nation to return to being a Republic as it was founded in accordance with the Constitution and obeying the Constitution. Go on Wikipedia and look up democracy as a form of government. A true democracy is one of the worst forms of government and there never have been any great nations in history that were democracies. The greatest Nations in history were all Kingdoms and that is what this world will have when the Lord Jesus returns to rule and reign over this world for 1,000 years.

          • K2

            The greatest nations in history were all kingdoms and you know how many rights people of those kingdoms had? far fewer than what people have now.

            Democracy is bad, but other forms are even worse, for modern times.

          • davidmpark

            We’re not a democracy; we’re a Constitutional Republic. BIG difference.

          • Gay Veteran

            “defense of marriage” act was blatantly unconstitutional

          • davidmpark

            Defense of Marriage Act is Constitutional. Homosexuality is not protected by civil rights protections; only by freedom of speech if done privately. If civil rights laws do protect LGBH folks, then there is a genetic trait that is visible the eye to prove homosexuality, or bisexuality, or whatever. There is no genetic marker because it’s a choice, a culture. The Constitution doesn’t create protected classes due to personal choice; it protects your ability to make choices. And forcing your fellow countrymen to recognize your personal decisions as some sort of superior is blatantly unconstitutional, unethical, and immoral.

          • Gay Veteran

            ever hear of equal protection under the law? ever pay attention to Supreme Court decisions?

            only a theocrat wants to legislate what goes on in peoples bedrooms.

            “…There is no genetic marker because it’s a choice….”

            what an incredibly illogical remark.

            “…And forcing your fellow countrymen to recognize your personal decisions as some sort of superior is blatantly unconstitutional, unethical, and immoral.”

            really, that’s precisely what you theocrats are trying to do. In a constitutional republic you don’t get to impose YOUR religions beliefs on others.

          • davidmpark

            You are attempting to redefine the 14th Amendment to include what it was never meant to cover. A normal tactic of Leftists. And the Supreme Court is not the last word on the law and Constitution – Congress is the last word on all matters. You should really read our founding documents before claiming what isn’t there.

            And since you claim that the 14th Amendment does cover homosexuality, then that does mean there is a genetic trait. Prove the trait, or there is no legal protection. Simple as that.

            And claiming that I’m using religion for oppressive means is far from my motives. Your community has proven to be quite oppressive; even violent – especially against those of Christian faith! If anything, your beliefs and lifestyle are being imposed on us. Unless there is proof that homosexuality is a result of genetic manifestation, then there is no 14th Amendment protections afforded, and many of the gay community that have harmed those people of faith must face “Hate Crimes” prosecution for forcing us to act against our beliefs and the physical assaults made against us.

          • Gay Veteran

            “You are attempting to redefine the 14th Amendment to include what it was never meant to cover. A normal tactic of Leftists….”

            Can you read plain words?

            “Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS….”

            “…You should really read our founding documents before claiming what isn’t there….”

            see the actual text of the 14th Amendment above.

            “…And the Supreme Court is not the last word on the law and Constitution – Congress is the last word on all matters….”

            WRONG.

            “Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case in which the Court formed the basis for the exercise of judicial review in the United States under Article III of the Constitution. The landmark decision helped define the boundary between the constitutionally separate executive and judicial branches of the American form of government….”

            “…And since you claim that the 14th Amendment does cover homosexuality, then that does mean there is a genetic trait. Prove the trait, or there is no legal protection. Simple as that….”

            WRONG. Equal protection has nothing to do with a genetic trait. Otherwise you could discriminate against Christians since that is based on BEHAVIOR.

            “…And claiming that I’m using religion for oppressive means is far from my motives. Your community has proven to be quite oppressive; even violent – especially against those of Christian faith! If anything, your beliefs and lifestyle are being imposed on us….”

            sniff, sniff, what’s the problem? you can’t beat and murder the homos with impunity any more?

            Imposed? How?

            “…many of the gay community that have harmed those people of faith must face “Hate Crimes” prosecution for forcing us to act against our beliefs and the physical assaults made against us.”

            Forcing you to act against your beliefs? Is baking a wedding cake part of your religion?
            btw, ALL physical assaults should be punished. EQUAL protection under the law.

          • davidmpark

            Marbury v Madison is unconstitutional: The Supreme Court has no constitutional authority to supersede Congress. Article 3 Section 1 says Congress can impeach Justices for such behavior.

            And your interpretation of the 14th amendment is also wrong. It doesn’t say equal rights of behavior – it means that the laws and protections apply to all to end slavery and end persecution for genetic traits beyond the individuals control, not to permit gay marriage.

            And just for giggles, let’s pretend that gay marriage was made legal. How will it be enforced? I don’t mean enforced against discrimination. I mean how to make sure the people marrying are gay? All it requires is a public declaration (that’s why I’m using that genetic traits argument). That means people can get civil marital benefits regardless of the societal benefits. The marriage becomes nothing more than a financial and medical arrangement – something that can already be arranged with an attorney under current laws. Gay marriage, then, really has no meaning in society – no children can potentially be born from the marriage. So, why should we bother allowing it? It stems from a personal decision sans genetic traits and doesn’t benefit society as a whole as no extra citizens are conceived through the marriage. The only reason it seems to legalize gay marriage is to bastardize the idea of a traditional family.

            And from what I’m reading of your angry responses, you’ve got a lot of anger and hostility towards Christians. I did not advocate harm to anyone in the gay community, but now I’ve got you supporting vigilante actions against Christians. “sniff, sniff, what’s the problem? you can’t beat and murder the homos with impunity any more?” – your exact words, and can pass this onto the AG’s office. I’ve also got you on libel and defamation of character from previous posts. Is it any wonder I keep questioning your mental stability? If you want to act this way; you will have to deal with it. So far, you’re not winning.

          • Gay Veteran

            “Marbury v Madison is unconstitutional: The Supreme Court has no constitutional authority to supersede Congress. Article 3 Section 1 says Congress can impeach Justices for such behavior….”

            do you bother reading your own garbage??? Previously you said “…the Supreme Court is not the last word on the law and Constitution – Congress is the last word on all matters….”

            And what has Congress done?

            Did Congress pass a constitutional amendment making clear that Congress is the last word on the Constitution? NO.

            Did Congress, as you suggested, impeach any justices? NO.

            The only conclusion to be drawn is that Congress agrees with Marbury v Madison.

            …And your interpretation of the 14th amendment is also wrong. It doesn’t say equal rights of behavior – it means that the laws and protections apply to all to end slavery and end persecution for genetic traits beyond the individuals control, not to permit gay marriage….”

            you’re spewing more garbage, READ the plain text, it says nothing about “genetic traits” or “behavior” (which is what religion is!).

            “…And just for giggles, let’s pretend that gay marriage was made legal. How will it be enforced? I don’t mean enforced against discrimination. I mean how to make sure the people marrying are gay?….”

            well Einstein, did we ever make sure the people marrying are actually straight?

            “…The marriage becomes nothing more than a financial and medical arrangement – something that can already be arranged with an attorney under current laws….”

            And I’m sure straights would just enjoy paying mega bucks for an attorney to do the same?

            “…Gay marriage, then, really has no meaning in society – no children can potentially be born from the marriage….”

            sorry junior, but we have NEVER required married couples to have children.

            “…So, why should we bother allowing it? It stems from a personal decision sans genetic traits and doesn’t benefit society as a whole as no extra citizens are conceived through the marriage…..”

            using your “logic”, why do we let the elderly marry? why do we allow the infertile to marry? why do we allow those who do NOT want children to marry?

            “…And from what I’m reading of your angry responses, you’ve got a lot of anger and hostility towards Christians….”

            NO, I have a lot of anger and hostility towards ayatollah wannabes.

            “…but now I’ve got you supporting vigilante actions against Christians….”

            you’re a LIAR, I said:
            “…ALL physical assaults should be punished. EQUAL protection under the law.”

            “…I’ve also got you on libel and defamation of character from previous posts….”
            wow, anyone who dares to disagree with you is engaged in libel and defamation of character? pathetic

          • davidmpark

            You just proved who you are.

          • Gay Veteran

            I made specific points. Too bad you incapable of responding in an intelligent manner.
            but I guess I’m just being “angry and raving”. Eyeroll

          • davidmpark

            That’s it? That’s what you’re ending with? Weak.

          • Gay Veteran

            yawn

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            You’re either completely ignorant of the progressive movement or you’re playing at some ridiculous sophistry. You decide which.

          • davidmpark

            Or he’s getting paid to post here…

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Could be. Gary and his twin dolt Vet both seem to have gone away, other than the queer one poking his head in (LOL) to make stupid, snide comments every now and then. This new crop of dolts, adrian and the pothead, could be their replacements.

          • Gay Veteran

            little Malcolm is back, calls people liars and then can’t prove it.
            you are a false witness

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            There’s the stupid, snide comment. LOL!

            Nah, I debunk you plenty, sword swallower.

          • davidmpark

            Noticing more trolls; guess the current appointee’s can handle it.

          • Gay Veteran

            false witness

          • davidmpark

            Projection, again?

            Is Alinksy tactics all you guys have?

          • Gay Veteran

            I made a true statement.
            How is that f-ing Alinsky tactics?
            jesus, with I had a nickel every time someone says Alinsky

          • davidmpark

            Wish we could get paid for debunking them. Easiest money ever!

          • PotHead69

            Because the takers are taking from the makers or some similar nursery rhyme RNC talking point.

          • kfilly

            Kind of funny that it is the liberals pushing for socialized medicine which is a way to control the people. Kind of funny that it is the liberals pushing for gun control. Gun ownership by the people is the only thing that prevents tyranny. You can also save your time with your liberal replies. I don’t watch any MSN unless I want to laugh including Fox News. I am not a Republican or Tea Party member. I am not a racist as I have friends of all backgrounds.

          • PotHead69

            Those are your big issues huh? No insurance for poor people, and can’t possibly survive with 10 round magazines for your AR? What a heartless bunch.

          • kfilly

            You must like being a slave. History is repeating and you are too ignorant to get it. I believe Stalin had a term for people like when he called them “Useful idiots”. Socialized medicine is all about control. They can control where people live by deciding where they want to fund/subsidize doctors. They can prevent political opponents from getting access to medical care (I also suppose you were ok with the IRS targeting people of differing opinions.). Have yoy read the entire Obamacare law? I haven’t read the 2000 pages, and I personally believe that no law should be longer than our Constitution as laws become impossible for the average person to understand. Additionally, people who have health insurance do not necessarily have health care. Perhaps, you heard of high deductibles, and other conditions that still prevent people from using health care. Paraphrasing one of the Founders, “Go away from me not as my countryman, and may the shackles of slavery be placed upon you gently.”

            Furthermore, I call you a fool for believing that the government is the end all be all to all problems. Here’s a question for you. What if welfare and government dependence is the new slavery? Inner city schools are failing all over the country. Is that a coincidence? Slaves were prevented from getting an education just like our inner city youth. People that are dependent upon the government are no longer the rightful master of their government. You call me heartless because I don’t believe in supporting people through the government. Oh, how considerate of you to determine how I should spend my money. I prefer not want to go through the government middleman and give up freedom in the process. I will donate money to directly help those in need or directly to charities like the Salvation Army. I don’t need the government middleman that makes you feel righteous.

            One last thought for you to think about. The definition of terrorism is the threat or use of force to achieve a political agenda. What do governments do again? They threaten (fines) or use force (imprisonment, kill, etc.) to achieve a political agenda. Probably the reason why our Founders called for a limited government there Comrade. Go smoke another one, and enjoy your “Hope and Chains”!

          • PotHead69

            This is the problem with you kooks. Just because I realize you are full of crap, I’m all of a sudden a socialist and support our enemies, or blah blah. Sky is falling sky is falling. Everything you are saying is propaganda by corporations that are loosing money from regulations, and rich dinks that don’t want to be taxed. Obamacare is not socialized medicine. You have been fed a big ole bag of horse poo bud. (Written while puffing bong).

          • kfilly

            Obamacare is a form of socialized medicine. It was written by the insurance companies for the insurance companies with the benefit of government bailouts if the insurance companies fail. That sounds pretty fascist. Fascism is a form of socialism. Nice try though. Take another hit.

          • PotHead69

            I wish it was socialized. We have a real world experiment right now with single payer health care in Vermont. So enough with the rhetoric lets take some time and see how it plays out. Let’s talk in 2020. You don’t know, I don’t know. Stop acting like you are the pie in the sky because you read some skewed bloggers opinions.

          • PotHead69

            As far as I can tell we would be much better off it nesecseties were socialized I.e. Healthcare, utilities, oil, banking. You know, the stuff we can’t live without in this world that has been built out. The rest of the world pays 25% what we do for those things and gets a government backed 5-10% savings account. I’m sure you can say that is what the end of the world looks like, but I would call it a reasonable policy. Don’t get me started with all the other benefits the Europeans get. Yea I know more taxes blah, blah, but look at it, they are happier, healthier, and live longer. Is that not what’s it’s really all about? Or is it about acquiring as much personal wealth as possible before you turn into worm food?

          • kfilly

            Trust me it is socialized. The insurance companies are now backed by the US taxpayer. It works kind of like the “Too Big to Fail” banks. Such a great system. All you believe is what the government propaganda tells you to believe. Must be nice to have your head in the sand.

          • kfilly

            The insurance companies are now socialized just like the “Too Big to Fail” banks. Remember this line, “We have to pass it to find out what is in it”. Unfortunately, you will find out what is in it, and I bet you blame the insurance companies instead of the government for signing it into law.

            I bet you also like our burdensome tax code. The one that was written by the rich to benefit the rich.

            Hey, let’s nationalize all financial accounts as it sounds patriotic. Obama already proposed that through MyRA. Don’t worry you get pennies back on the dollar for your investments. Perhaps, that’s the real reason the government wants the people disarmed. When the government twlls you to report to your train, don’t be late as they have a schedule to keep.

          • Richard

            “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.” Psalm 53:1 – This is your problem. You are a fool.

          • PotHead69

            He he. Ok clown.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            No, it’s because you think the people here that are awake are kooks is why we’re pretty sure you’re a useful idiot.
            Edit: Oh look, it only took another 2 of your blatherings just below to prove me right.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            “You have been fed a big ole bag of horse poo bud. ”
            said the clown clamoring for socialized health care.

          • Gay Veteran

            Obamacare is for the benefit of the insurance companies.
            solve the medical problem by having anti-monopoly laws apply to all areas of medicine

          • davidmpark

            Obamacare is for the benefit of Obama and his entourage. Read the bill.

          • Gay Veteran

            are you denying it benefits insurance companies?

            and did you miss the solution to our problem? have anti-monopoly laws apply to all areas of medicine

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            LOL! This one wins the dumbest thing I’ve read all day. Thanks for that.

        • davidmpark

          You’ve been calling for it.

        • Mondobeyondo

          Extreme? Maybe.
          Impossible? Not at all. And that is what scares me.

      • alan

        The trend does appear to support that idea.

  • WhistlingDog

    (Proverbs 21:2) “Every way of a man is right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the heart.”..Where a country that favors mind games, backstabbing, laziness, manipulation, and a life apart from God results in horrific outcomes.Look what happen to Sodom and Gomorrah or Babel.

    (Proverbs 14:20-21) “The poor man is hated even by his own neighbor, but the rich has many friends.(21)He who despises his neighbor sins;But he who has mercy on the poor,happy is he.”…Greed,ignorance,and corruption has harden hearts and has created a poor standard of character.That is exceptable in today’s society.

    Humanity in its current nature will never figure out true peace or ever obtain it without God.The rich get richer and the poor get poorer (Proverbs 28:8) “One who increases his possessions by usury and extortion,Gathers it for him who will pity the poor.”

    People will step on other peoples hands just to climb the social ladder and add more prestige to their resume.Its a pride game amongst us all.(Proverbs 30:12) “There is a generation that is pure in its own eyes,yet is not washed from its filthiness.

    • alan

      Human nature, always has been always will. Nothing new.

      • PotHead69

        Nope, this is way worse in capitalist societies. Take a trip to Asia, check the Buddhists out. They are so much friendlier and happier than Christian nations. You can scoff if you want, but I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

        • Luis

          That’s because the devil is on the warpath with Protestant America… he could care less about the idolatrous Buddhists. And most people who take on the name of Christ these days do so in name only, not in practice. That is why this country is going downhill. Americans have forsaken God… His blessings and protecting care are being removed.

          • NowAlive

            At face value that would seem to be true, from an American perspective. But what of Europe? They abandoned the Gospel and Christ long ago. There are countries over there that are more prosperous than the US. I believe even the French middle class is better off than the US according to recent studies and only 1% of them go to church. If I think about it, most of Europe abandoned Christ in the Middle Ages and there were only a few pockets of the Church remaining after that, for the most part. There are of course exceptions, but by and large?

          • CharlesH

            Maybe He has abandoned the US because we’re no longer an English speaking nation – now we’re more bi-linqual, which is confusing.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            “There are countries over there that are more prosperous than the US”
            By what definition? I’m curious if your observation matches what I saw when I lived there.
            Socialists congratulating each other over how socialist they can be? The crushing taxes? Being subjects to the State? The hovels they live in?

          • Mudpie

            Actually, those Asian nations are embracing capitalism and freedom and some of what he says is true. Even in Beijing, I was amazed by the commercial activity and freedom on the street (though of course restrictions exist). There is an energy and optimism that is dead in America.

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        • Malcolm Reynolds

          And you saw that where exactly? I’ve been to Japan proper, Okinawa, China, Hong Kong (when it was still a protectorate), Thailand, Korea, and the Phillipines.
          So I happen to know you ignored the CRUSHING poverty to come to your bong addled conclusion. So where did you see this and what led to that conclusion?

        • Mudpie

          I have seen very happy people in this nations as well. But perhaps it is because they have in fact started to embrace freedom and see a positive future? While we go down the opposite path. Just saying . . . . Karma, dude.

          • Mudpie

            That would be Hindu, by the way ; )

    • nekksys

      Brilliant, friend, just brilliant. Thanks.

  • K

    As with most things, the correct level is somewhere in the middle. Income equality, not possible or desirable. Income inequality to the point it has reached in this Country, equally undesirable. However in this Country greed is above epidemic proportions. Even those that once would have spoke out, about the dangers of such greed. Are strangely silent .Why, they harbor the same level of greed as those super rich people. They have just been less successful at it. What does it profit a man, to gain the whole world. But lose his eternal soul?

    • seth datta

      Michael, every time i post a good comment on your website as opposed to a ‘standard’ one i might post, it gets deleted. Why is that? You claim to provide a source to the truth, but any truth that cuts too close is hidden. This site becomes nothing more than a banker-run operation that is used to corral people, gather info on them for future; and spread disinformation and lies.

      • alan

        I come here to share ideas and read what other people are thinking or seeing out there. The main stream media is not reporting whats going on any more, so we have become blind to reality.

      • Mondobeyondo

        What’s your definition of “truth”?

        There IS one definition (the correct one) -but it’s hidden in between the other stuff masquearding as :”truth”

      • laura m.

        He printed my posts -scroll down- very outspoken bashing Islam and other cults calling them Satanic, etc. Past posts I also exposed 501c3 gov churches and gov educ-commie core.

        • Guest

          Nowadays, it is very hard to find a church that isn’t a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization. Most are. Many years ago I was a member of a Baptist church, and one Sunday morning the pastor said something of a political nature from the pulpit. And then he said “I have to be careful. We could lose our tax exemption.” Ugh!

          • laura m.

            There are few churches which I go to one in the country. People can go online or start a small group fellowship.

          • Gay Veteran

            tax the churches and you can have all the politics you want in church

  • grumpyhillbilly

    The earned income tax and the federal reserve need to be destroyed. Property rights need to be respected. I have no clue what you do about the corporations. They’ve turned into a fascist’s dream come true.

    • Adrian

      We already have fascism light in operation here. There’s no way to reform the system; it’s too corrupt and flooded with way too much money. The fascism light is preparing to turn into a very hard from if those with the wealth feel like the rabble are going to take it from them.

  • Adrian

    It’s strange that you post numerous stories about the effects of unregulated capitalism and greed, and how it is destroying the middle class and human life, yet when powerful figures like the Pope make similar statements you say, “whoa, wait a minute, here…” There doesn’t have to be one extreme or another, but the Europeans have reached a successful middle ground, where capitalism is made to work for the entirety of the population instead of a rich few. And no, that is not Communism. These states have mixed market economies and are also more democratic than we are. I think the Pope is spot on, and I’m not even Catholic.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      The last time I checked, Europe had a much higher unemployment rate than we do, and cities all over Europe have been hit with violent economic riots in recent years.

      Michael

      • Adrian

        Well, it depends on which part of Europe you are referring: Greece, Spain, and Portugal, yes – Germany, not so much. Also, as you know, the way we calculate unemployment is phony, something which you have written about often. Thus, we underestimate our actual unemployment and underemployment rates. What does the unemployment rate of Europe have to do with the point I addressed above about the Pope blaming capitalism for much of the inequality in the world?

        • Tim

          It’s not a coincidence that countries that are predominantly Roman Catholic are also some of the poorest and most economically troubled.

          • Adrian

            Well, the Spanish did colonize Latin America, which is poor. Explain the correlation between Catholicism and poverty.

          • Richard

            Adrian per your answer above, Spain has one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe. Also, Spain is and has been for centuries been dominated by Roman Catholicism as the nations religion. When the conquistadores conquered Central and South America for it’s gold and silver and the Catholic priests were along side indoctrinate the poor indian people Catholicism and the overwhelming majority of the these people kept in abject poverty. Whereas the N. American part was settled mostly by Protestant people fleeing persecution and desiring to worship God according to the dictates of their hearts and live in obedience to God’s word. This brought God’s blessing upon N. America as it always does when people seek to honor God with their lives. Two completely different motives with two different outcomes between the people settling N. America and those Spanish Conquistadores with their Catholic priests coming in behind them.

          • Joe Trevors

            How were the Indians in the United States treated?

          • Richard

            For the most part CRUALLY. There is No question about that. However, the Big difference is that the oppressive doctrines of Roman Catholicism did not dominate in North America creating a two tier society of the 1% wealthy and the 99% in poverty as we seein

          • Joe Trevors

            Richard, thank your for sharing your views with good intentions about our common heritage. There is a difficulty, however, to discuss events that occurred hundreds of years ago. History has been interpreted in many ways since then. If it is hard for us to know what really occurred only 13 years ago in 9/11, how can know what really happened 20 years ago, or 200 years ago? The answer is that only God knows! Who was really behind the bombings of the World Trade Center? I believe it was Satan. So the question becomes who were secretly following Satan & deceived us?

          • laura m.

            Alan & Adrian: Catholic control freaks as leaders in Muslim (poor) countries, both have their hands in the gov’t Only the oligarchy and their puppets are rich and living high. Catholicism hates free mkts/free thinkers and keeps people who apparently want to be controlled in bondage with their false teachings that are anti- Biblical. Most of mankind are dumb as box bricks, all thru history, can’t think and reason for themselves and even rallied behind Hitler and Stalin, other control freaks, etc.

          • Mike Smithy

            I believe your analysis is spot on.In addition, have you ever noticed that nearly every country in the world that was colonized by the Spaniards have extremely corrupt governments to this day? The institutionalized Spanish/Catholic dogma is alive and well in places like Mexico, Philippines, Guam, Puerto Rico, Guatemala, Honduras, Columbia, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Venezuela. A fish rots from the head down.

          • Luis

            Thank you Mike and Laura for posting your comments… I thought I was the only one that could see all that! The only place I would beg to differ is with Laura’s comment about most of mankind being as dumb as a box of bricks. I think the real problem is not one of stupidity, but a lack of passion for the truth:

            “…they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” 2Thess.2:10-12

          • alan

            Muslim countries might edge them out as being worse off.
            Just a guess.

          • laura m.

            Catholicism is a tool of Satan, just like Islam, Mormonism, Eastern religions, Hinduism, etc. This pope like all the popes thru history is all about control promoting socialism, false doctrine, instead of free market capitalism. Ruled Europe thru the centuries. The only thing I would admire the Catholic church for is the crusades- (lesser of two evils) or Europe would have been under Muslim control for centuries, now EU nations are implementing Shiria law in the 21st century. The new pope is a joke and will burn in hell with all false teachers/leaders.

          • Mike Smithy

            Laura, I feel as if you are my soul mate. I appreciate your lucid candidness.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            I swear I heard a wedding bell.
            lol 😉

          • Pastor Parcel

            ‘Burn in hell’? Please reconcile this statement with the idea of god being a god of love and justice.

          • Tim

            God’s primary attribute is NOT love but holiness.

          • Hammerstrike

            You forget the round Earth and cellular theories.

            The round Earth theory is false, the Earth is in fact flat.

            Are humans and other living beings made of cells? I think not! Cells are bad. My uncle lives in a cell. It’s ten foot by twelve and he has to read the same old, boring magazine everyday. The end.

          • Mike Smithy

            Indeed your observations are correct. I tend to believe that historically, the Catholic leadership embraces the notion of perpetual poverty and obtains power from keeping the poor repressed. In other words, they are natural Democrats.

      • Adrian

        I also thought, after reading many of your blog posts, that your entire premise is that unemployment is rising in this country and the middle class is shrinking rapidly. Obviously, capitalism has played some role in this.

        • Mondobeyondo

          Capitalism gave you a job.
          Capitalism also fired you from your job.
          But it’s not all bad.

          Under a communist system, there is 100 percent employment….

          • Adrian

            Oh, you’re one of those all of nothing people on here, who are unable to imagine a middle ground between two extremes. I gotcha.

      • Hammerstrike

        Official unemployement numbers.
        Italy, Spain, Greece likely does have higher unemployement by a significant margine.
        Germany and Finland? Less so.

        Some people in Spain are so hungry that they look into garbage bins for food, others still pretends everything is fine.

      • Hammerstrike

        According to the Ministry of Truth. Spain, Italy and Greece certainly does, Finland and Germany less so.

        tripsthatwork.c o m/1/post/2013/08/ keeping-anopen-mindin-north-korea. ht ml

        As for North Korea, you are deceived by the wastestream medias and their masters.

      • K2

        Because it has much higher population. In current economic times, more population means more unemployed people.

        • laura m.

          More automation, high tech new ways of mfg., robots in factories and yes, overpopulation cause much unemp., however, many blue collar jobs like the garment industries, shoes, purses, toilets, hand/power tools, electronics, engines, cookware to name a few, should have stayed in this country, Adrian: this is an ex of “predatory fasicm/ capitalism” instead of free mkt cap. home (US) owned and run. The corp/banker elite obviously want this country econ. to collapse- order out of chaos.

          • K2

            I was talking about why europe has more unemployment than US, when both have the same economic situation.

    • davidmpark

      He’s been posting stories about severely regulated capitalism. If it was unregulated, there would be far more jobs and wealth. Greed is impossible to regulate. Nice try.

      • Adrian

        No, it is unregulated, which is what caused the 2008 collapse in the first place! You can research these facts for yourself. We’ve been deregulating industry for decades now…and look what it’s caused.

        • kfilly

          It is not just that things are unregulated. It is that the government is in bed with the corporations. The Too Big to Fail banks were a perfect illustration of that. Those banks should have folded and someone else should have been able to acquire their assets. Instead, we socialized their loses. It must be nice to keep your profits when you do well and get bailed out when you screw up.

          • Adrian

            Exactly right!

          • alan

            They have teams of lawyers to find loop holes to work around. The more laws you pass just cripple the little guy basically pushing them out.

          • Gay Veteran

            we didn’t have any banking problems until they bought the laws they wanted

        • davidmpark

          Seriously?

          Read 12 USC 1452: Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation. 12 USC 1464: Federal Savings Associations. 12 USC 1701t: Congressional affirmation of national goal of decent homes and suitable living environment for American families. And so on and so on.

          Unlike you, I don’t get my research from Slate, The Nation, or Huffington. I read source material along with credible news outlets.

          • Adrian

            LOL, yes seriously. There have been government and independent studies done on this, and they all agree the SEC failed in regulating the financial sector. Google is a wonderful thing. But, if you want to keep on living with your head in the sand, I won’t stop you.

          • davidmpark

            Nope, you’re wrong. Now, provide the name of said “government and independent studies” and I will read them and compare to the Congressional records and US Codes to see which is correct. Or, are these studies just another fantasy based on a need to be dominant?

          • Adrian

            Go to the CBO website and happy reading. Or you can Google the CBO studies and the link with the deregulation. As with most crises, it was caused by many factors, deregulation being a major one. You can also find Wall Street Journal articles talking about this as well.

          • davidmpark

            Okay, I want the name of the report you’re citing. I’m at the CBO site right now and I’m looking at over 10,000 reports with “deregulation”.

            Look, if you can’t back it up then just admit it.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Woooo! A true believer. You’ve found a compliment to my little Gay Vet pet.

          • davidmpark

            LOL :)

          • Gay Veteran

            yawn, I see little Malcolm is off his meds again

          • Gay Veteran

            the housing crisis is primarily due to massive fraud among the banksters

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Umm, no. Like Dave said tho, nice try. There is nothing unregulated in this country.

          • davidmpark

            Thanks Mal! I love how they make these mental claims, say it’s fact, use Alinsky tactics to try and coerce… and then there’s a huge paper trail in plain sight to debunk ’em!

    • Drud

      The issue here is one of semantics, just as is always the case. If you don’t believe me, believe Arthur Schopenhauer. I do not believe this country practices “unregulated capitalism” in the least and has not done so for decades. It practices what I, and many others, call Corporatism. So having presented a term we must set it in context: This is a system where big players are given unfair advantage over small ones and I mean far above and beyond the advantages already received through economies of scale.Ultimately, I believe this failure to be inherent in all hierarchical systems and that is the really dividing line. Unregulated capitalism is, more or less, an anarchic system. “Laisse Faire” translates to “let them do,” i.e. the system forms its own boundaries and regulations. This is in no way even similar to the system we have now in the US, or in any of the West. In my opinion, it begins with the currency being corrupted and ends with corporate entities becoming so powerful they can literally purchase the government in its entirety. This is NOT unregulated capitalism, but unquestionably that is how it gets delineated by our 2-party system. The left says capitalism is evil, look at all these issues deregulation has cause. The the right says, no capitalism is good, and anything that benefits huge corporations is capitalism. Both views are patently false, but as the public is presented no other options, we fall for the rhetoric and divide ourselves based upon this incorrect premise.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      ” unregulated capitalism ”
      Which planet?

  • GSOB

    I don’t follow the Pope.

    The size of our Federal government will be bigger than it is now in the long run.

    So also the size of the dependent population.

    “….diligently built up over the years would be to see it frittered away on account of currency depreciation.”

    Psalm 23

    King James Version (KJV)

    The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

    He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

    He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.

    Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

    Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

    The Lord is my Shepard.

    I shall not want.

    He makes me lay down in green pastures……

    Lord our prayers go out to you, lifting our brothers and sisters in North Korean, in Christ.
    Please comfort them with your presence and strengthen them with your body.

    Amen

  • Tatiana Covington

    The hard reality is that people are inherently not equal. I have known this since about 1960.

    Ever heard of the Gaussian Normal Distribution? It’s what always overthrows democracy and ruins any egalitarianism…

    because their fundamental premise is simply wrong. No! People are not equal!

  • Tatiana Covington

    “Rather, it is the result of humanity’s deep rebellion against God.”

    Actually, it is because of the physical reality that people are not equal. All one needs do to prove that is look around. Some are lucky in our parentage. Most are not.

    This is why there are very few really good basketball players and very few really good classical harpsichordists.

    Check on the Gaussian Normal Distribution and Pareto’s Law.

    Sorry, everyone… it’s just plain old human nature and facts of reality.

    For every Einstein there are a billion dolts, conservatively.

  • davidmpark

    And this why I’m LDS. :)

  • LIBERALMENSWALLOWSEMENDAILY

    the pope is wrong on cannibalism?

  • Luis

    “As long as the problems of the poor are not
    radically resolved by rejecting the absolute autonomy of markets and
    financial speculation and by attacking the structural causes of
    inequality, no solution will be found for the world’s problems or, for
    that matter, to any problems. Inequality is the root of social ills.” Pope Francis

    I thought Jesus Christ was the answer to the world’s problems… turns out it’s rejecting the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation?

    But I’m a little confused… a few years ago Pope Benedict said “environmental responsibility was essential for global peace.” So which is it? Do we solve the world’s problems by recycling or rejecting the absolute autonomy of markets?

    What nonsense. Sorry, but I’m sticking with the old Protestant platform that the Pope is ‘the man of sin’, ‘the mystery of iniquity’, ‘that wicked’ one spoken of in 2 Thess. 2:3,7,8… the little horn power spoken of in Daniel 7:8,24,25 and also the beast power spoken of in Revelation 13:1-9.

    Don’t be fooled by this baby kissing Pope. This is the same organization that tortured and killed over 50 million of God’s people during the dark ages and has to this day offered no apology for it.

  • Better Future

    Did I read that right? Evil is the result of humanity’s rebellion against God? That’s what you truly think? Maybe you should get into the Pope mobile too…

    • Becky

      So what about all the child rapist priests that the vatican covers up for? Where is God while all this is going on?

      • Richard

        They along with All will have their day of Judgement before the Lord Jesus.

        • Better Future

          How do you know that?

          • Richard

            The Bible says in John5:22, “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the Son (Jesus).

          • GSOB

            judgment ok

          • Richard

            Even Better – John 3:16 says, For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him (Jesus) should not perish but have everlasting life.”

          • PotHead69

            He read it in a 2000 year old fairy tale

          • Tim

            You’ll remember those words.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            I thought you were huffing your bong hopin’ and changin’ that obamacare was going to save you from brain damage? Go back to sleep dopey.

        • barney

          Not good enough. They are responsible for destroying so many young lives. Getting judgement for it once they are dead just seems pointless and all the while they are allowed to keep raping and harming these children. With no intervention and no punishment. The catholic church should be put in jail all of them.

          • Richard

            Their judgement is for the determination of the degree of torment in Hell for eternity. When the body dies it is Not the end but rather the Beginning the end for All who have rejected the Lord Jesus Christ. Hell has No end.

          • barney

            Like I said NOT Good Enough if it were true. Which it is not. There is no such thing as burning in hell and being tortured for your crimes for all eternity. Sorry but if that helps you sleep at night. It shouldn’t.

            Truth time – everyone has different morals, values and beliefs. Problem comes into play when someone’s brain is so messed up that they hurt others and do not even believe they are doing do because they view their depravity as normal and good and right.

            Peacemaker does not mean meek and unwilling to speak up. It means being willing to stand up for what is right and for justice.

            Those are the real peacemakers.

            The ones who go along to get along and not make waves are just as evil as the ones who commit crimes against others.

          • Richard

            And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement. Hebrews 9:27

          • GSOB

            judgment

          • GSOB

            judgment no e

          • Richard

            And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that NEVER shall be quenched. Mark 9:43

          • GSOB

            judgment

      • Better Future

        I’m atheist…

        • Richard

          There are NO atheists in Hell.

          • Better Future

            You are atheist too?

          • Richard

            No. I am a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and I hope you will be too.

          • Better Future

            I was raised Methodist and looked to Christ as my savior for the first 37 years of my life.

          • Richard

            I am so glad to hear that. He will never leave us nor forsake us, those of us who have trusted in Him. It is we who forsake Him in our lives that causes us problems. I encourage you to get into a good Bible teaching Church and return to a close and loving relationship with Him. God bless you

          • Better Future

            I now believe that

          • Richard

            There is No reality outside of the true and living God, the Lord Jesus Christ. This earthly life (reality) is but a vapor, the Bible says, it appeareth for a little while and vanisheth away. Perhaps you never entered into a personal relationship with Jesus and were simply following along with your parents. That happens to many people who Go to Church. Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say unto you, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God”. John 3:3

          • Better Future

            I can tell you that I certainly was following the Lord closely for most of my life. I was raised in a very devout family and knew exactly what I was doing when I was baptized, I would have been very hurt by the suggestion that I was not a true Christian at the time but I understand where you are coming from so no offence taken. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Otherwise all we are left with is faith and what use is faith without evidence? We need evidence to point us to the correct religion, or away from religion as in my case. I can now see through the unjustified assertions and logical fallacies. May I ask what your definition of a true Christian is? Would you add the requirement, “A person who’s faith can’t be swayed by reason”? With respect I must remind you that Matthew 7:1 applies in this case.

    • Richard

      YES.

  • PotHead69

    We could have ended world hunger with the money we spent in Iraq and Afganistan.

    • Richard

      The Lord Jesus Christ said “The poor you will have with you always.” So, misspent Money is Not the problem.

      • PotHead69

        I think this is officially the stupidest thing I’ve heard all day.

        • alan

          LOL, yes there will always be poor people. The problem is way too many and it becomes dangerous. Throwing away money does hurt.

          • PotHead69

            Throwing money away on ending world hunger????? What bible are you reading dude?

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          You should read your own posts then…
          Woooo!

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      That’s funny, the US has spent around 16 trillion dollars since the war on poverty started in the 60s and has barely made a dent in it. In just this country…

  • markthetruth

    Did you know that the greatest period of economic growth in U.S. history was when there was no income tax, no IRS and no Federal Reserve? you forgot and the Constitution was followed which left the people their freedom !!!

    the end…

    • Adrian

      What about 1945-1972? We saw significant growth and the birth of a strong middle class at that time, and even Republicans saw the benefits of government programs and progressive taxation.

      • Airedale

        Actually, we were the only industrialized nation still intact after WWII able to rebuild the world economy.

        • Adrian

          Inititally, yes. But even during the 60s and 70s we still had these policies in place as we faced greater competition. What led to their demise is the shift in power back to the elites, because people are less wary when they are comfortable with the system. We lost what we had, and now everybody’s eating crap.

          • Gay Veteran

            back in the 50s and 60s you didn’t see corporate CEOs living like kings

  • Adrian

    The sad thing is that many people who post on here will never realize that capitalism is the reason why they are not making it. A few are making out like bandits at the expense of the many. And no, deregulation isn’t the answer, it’s the problem.

    • Richard

      We have Not had Capitalism for many years in this Nation. Obviously, that has never made it into your thinking processes yet.

      • Adrian

        What has made it into my thinking is Marx’s argument on end phase capitalism, where the biggest corporations dominate the system and oligopolies and monopolies are formed. That’s the reason we haven’t had a real capitalist system in so long it’s because the system itself has changed and evolved.

        • Richard

          EXACTLY. The Banksters have Hijacked capitalism completely. That is why I said we have not had anything like true Capitalism for many years.

          • Adrian

            It’s more than just the bankers have hijacked things. What gave them the power to hijack our government is the mega power of corporations and their massive wealth, enabling to buy politicians. That came from the end phase of capitalism. So much for the glorious republic, which, you failed to mention, became a democracy over time.

          • Richard

            The USSA is Not a Democracy much less a Republic anymore. The Banksters control the Nations money, They have All the CONTROL. Rothschild knew this back in the 18th century when he said “give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes its laws”.

          • Adrian

            I agree it’s neither, now. The monied elite has become too strong.

          • Richard

            Adrian, you are a good guy. You do listen to reason and TRUTH.

          • So…are you saying that, capitalism, WITHOUT the corrupt government might have worked out? Capitalism, unchecked–without politicians to screw things up–might have been just fine? That’s what I am reading. Am I reading in to what you are saying too much?

        • davidbyrden

          It makes a great deal of sense to regard corporations as giant animals, alien beings, a new form of life with its own agenda.
          Because then you see that these entities are treating humans as cattle. Of course they would! We are their food.
          And all our social problems matter to them no more than the suffering of farm animals matter to us. When did you last think about the rights of the cow in your burger?

        • Drud

          I posted on your earlier comment before reading this one. I understand the argument that capitalism will always lead down this road, and that may very well be, but that can be said about any system. There is no permanence, period. Any system of governance, any economic system, will eventually corrupt itself and then must be torn down and rebuilt. This is a cycle that has played itself out throughout the centuries. There are some differences this time: The first, and really just a silly little point on perspective is: we are all alive now. That makes it personal and not just history. Now, that alone is not different from any other collapse, top the people involved it was personal. BUT there are several things that make this coming collapse different that any in history and they are all offshoots of technology. Think about it: globalization, transportation, electricity mass media, just in time logistics, electronic currencies (not crypto-currencies, but electronic banking), the internet, a belt of junk in low-earth orbit, and let us not forget the biggie: nuclear weapons. None of this was even conceived of during the Fall of Rome, for instance, and I am sure it is a very incomplete list. The cause is the same, the symptoms similar, but the details…totally unprecedented.

    • K2

      Its not capitalism or socialisim. Its wrong implementation of them both.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      No, the sad thing is you’re a dolt and don’t even know it.

  • durango

    The word equality does’t appear in the bible even once.

    • Adrian

      Which is why we have laws today that mandate equality, fortunatey. We don’t live in a theocracy like the Iranians or the Taliban.

  • seektruth319

    “But the solution is not to take everything away from everybody and put it into a giant pile and redistribute it equally.” Where again has the Pope said that? I am interested in your support for attributing that conclusion to the Pope.

  • Andrew

    I wouldn’t take anything this pope or any other has to say. After all the current pope was involved in a child rape ring back the seventies. Plus the vatican is one to talk about income inequality with all the money they have and use to cover up the sins of their child rapists.

  • Bill

    This is some heavy discussion that will not be settled with a few quick comments, remember that please.

    As much as many of us as Americans despise our leader as an imposter I think that their exist enough information to question the true recognition of the Catholic Church and it’s Pope as an ultimate authority for the right and wrong of any thing.

    God’s will is reflected in all who bear a conscience.
    The will of the majority is the ONLY fair way for any equitable decision. But

    We all are not created equal and we certainly do not have a right to be equal.

  • Twidiot1

    No, Michael, you are wrong. The pope is infallible. Didn’t you know?

  • Mondobeyondo

    I’m not Catholic… so I refuse to say anything that may be potentially offensive concerning Pope John Paul George Ringo or the current pontiff.. I think that covers it.

    For today.

  • Daystrom2012

    The first ting I did when I finally heard the Gospel,after 30 years in the Catholic church, was to leave the Catholic church. The Pope in my opinion,whether it is this one or another, could very well be the false prophet during the tribulation. The Bible clearly states that the love of money is the root of all evil, but of course I didn’t expect a proper interpretation of scripture from the Pope.

    • GSOB

      The Pope or the Roman Catholic Church are not to be imposed into the The Revelation of John.
      That kind of interpretation sows discord among all of us in the one Catholic Church
      (Catholic = Universally One).
      The book of Revelation is not concerned with
      today’s Pope.

  • scoubidou123

    Yeah, that pope guy, what’s up with him? What has he got against accumulating riches?

    Well, I’ll make the militant pro-wealth Christian on this board squirm. I’ll quote the Gospel:

    “Woe to you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort.”

    “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

    “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal”

    The trouble with the pope is that he believes in Christ’s teachings. All of them. Even those that make the well off uncomfortable. Even those the capitalist world has been trying hard to rationalize away.

    • Mondobeyondo

      I do like those papal clothes though. He wears some pretty cool robes.

    • Richard

      You are taking all of those scriptures out of context in order to make the word of God say something that it does Not say, so you are completely untrue to God’s word. As for what this Pope believes or does not believe, Only GOD knows for sure, as with us all. For the Bible says “God looks upon the heart”. As for people, we must take the Pope for the words that come out of his mouth and we do have that recorded and that is the issue alone.

      • scoubidou123

        what context? I challenge you to give a context for these that would change their clear, plain meaning: a dire warning to turn away from the riches, because they are a danger to the soul, a distraction from what is important in this life. If you are a Christian, then those ARE God’s word, no matter how much you wish they were not: Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth.

        • Richard

          All scripture must be taken within the context that it is given. Obviously, you by your own words do not have any understanding of the meaning of “context”. Therefore, the Holy Bible is of No value to a person such as you, much less anyone else in your condition. Rather, holy scripture in your hands is a danger to yourself and others, because the Truth of God’s word is so distorted.

          • scoubidou123

            Dear Richard,

            From the start I have been saying that the pope’s position might be anti-wealth, it may be anti-capitalist, it might be socialist, but he is faithfully following Jesus’ position about money. See, Christ spoke about riches, almost always with cautions and concerns attached. He warned about the dangers of riches and wealth. I have quotes from Luke, Mark, Matthew, Acts to back my position (for instance Luke 6:24, Mark 10:25, Acts 4:32, Luke 9:3). Exactly how more direct “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth” can you get [Matthew 6:19]? You accuse me of taking these quotes out of context, and then you make no argument except call me names. I invite everyone to read the whole of Matthew 6 and see for themselves. Those led by Richard to expect that my quote is followed with “haha just kidding! No, get your grubby hands on as much shiny gold as you can” will be disappointed.

            I asked all the ardent capitalist Christians on this board to point me to where Jesus praised riches and material possessions. **crickets**. I am still waiting.

  • Clyde Ankle

    The Pope is just doing what you are Michael. Saying the present system could be improved.

  • MeMadMax

    I think he’s just a moron that’s spouting off talking points that he hears from msnbc…
    Besides, the people that cry the loudest get heard the most and are also the ones that don’t want to do the most…

  • Joe Trevors

    Joe Trevors

  • Joe Trevors

    It is not easy to understand a person’s philosophy about the economy by taking one word “inequality” out of context.

    • Colin Taylor

      Hi Joe , just wondering if you would have a close look at Gal 3 & 4 for me and tell me how it relates to Catholic traditions and practices ?? Gal 4: 8-11 makes it very clear that certain practices are worthless in Gods sight if they are being done to make one better in HIS eyes.

  • Sam

    I am officially leaving this blog. I’ve had enough of the God rubbish. How can you disagree with what the pope says here?!?! Crazy! Anyone who thinks financial reward hinders creativity and innovation needs to look at Newton, Einstein, Galileo, etc. Everybody here needs to read about the Venus Project and see how we can build an equal and sustainable society.
    Goodbye you religious nutcases

    • Mondobeyondo

      Is the Pope always right?
      (Hint: The Pope is a human being, just like you and me)

  • Lorna Faith

    A Catholic Bishop in Atlanta is selling a 2.2 million dollar residence he had built with donations. Seriously Pope, you have creditability issues on wealth inequality

    • Mike Smithy

      The whole credibility issue is similar to Al Gore purchasing carbon credits to justify flying in a private jet or ride in a limo because he thinks he is saving the planet. The Bishop in Atlanta justifies squandering donations on a lavish lifestyle because he believes he is saving souls. Am I the only one that sees the hypocrisy here?

  • Angry Jesus

    The Pope is representative of corporate religion at its worst. And yes, I’m still angry.

  • dadelaw

    “Being the Pope, he should know that the evil that we see all around us
    is not the result of the distribution of wealth. Rather, it is the
    result of humanity’s deep rebellion against God.”

    Poor, poor Michael. You really are a deluded soul, aren’t you? “God”! Who needs to “rebel” against something which doesn’t exist in the first place? I don’t “rebel” against dinosaurs… because dinosaurs don’t exist. That’s why there’s no such thing (or person) as an “atheist”. You can’t be “against” something which doesn’t exist. But using the term is a very clever way of including the acceptance of the concept of “God” to be able to be against it (atheism).

    From there to be “REBELLING” against this concept is delusion run amok. The fact, my dear Michael, the very grim fact, my friend, is that humans are basically ‘bad’ from the get-go. Notice how children naturally lie, cheat, steal and bully… AND GROWN-UPS HAVE TO TEACH THEM NOT TO DO THESE THINGS. Of course, it doesn’t change anything. Look at the evil in the world.

    Now some might say God is responsible for this. After all, if God is the grand creator, he must obviously take responsibility for EVERYTHING, right? But no, I’m going to get howls of protest below from people who say “He” gave us “free will” which allows us to make “choices”. How delightfully convenient! God gets the credit for all the “good” things in the world but none of the blame for the “bad”.

    Agh, why do I bother…..

  • Steve

    Why would anybody listen to anything the Pope says? – after all, he believes in fairy tale stories about God and Jesus. And the nonsense edicts about contraceptives etc. Still, 1-million turn up at St. Peter’s to celebrate the canonization of two former Popes as “Saints.”

  • Mondobeyondo

    Time to once again listen to “Eve of Destruction” by Barry McGuire. We’ve already ruined this planet – might as well wreck Mars as well, while we’re at it.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Ronald McDonald for President 2016.
    Because we need a REAL clown in government.
    ————————–
    Okay, seriously…
    North Korea obviously has the technology to create nuclear weapons. But not enough technology to feed its own citizens?
    Really?!

    Communism is a failed system.
    There’s only 4 nations (as of last check) that still are Communist. China, Vietnam, Cuba and North Korea. Forgot about Mongolia. That makes five nations.
    None of them are a world power.

    • Hammerstrike

      tripsthatwork.c o m/1/post/2013/08/ keeping-anopen-mindin-north-korea. ht ml
      No, not really. That is propaganda according to the wastestream medias and only an fool would believe these.

      North Korea had starvation in 1998, if that had continued for 16 years, there would not be many left today.

      That after the North Korean governement had been holding back on building nuclear capability for years, in exchange for US aid in building nuclear plant that could not be re-used for the production of nuclear weapons, of course the aid never came.

  • Hammerstrike

    He doesn´t have the solutions of the left, call for the rich to be taxed 90%, wealth seized and redistributed by the gubbermint and so on.

  • JdL

    For others who had as much trouble as I did reading the legend on the graph, the vertical scale is (I think) “Share of top decile in total income.” So, in the U.S. now, the top 10% of income earners take nearly half the total income.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    Nixon was the One!

  • K2

    Michael,

    Where and when did the pope say that wealth should be redistributed?

    • Nick-Dog

      He didn’t. Michael jumped to this conclusion and should apologize and stand down on this for the suggestion/implication that this is what the Pope meant when he said nothing of the sort.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Stop looking to a pope for the answers to your problems.
    Mary can’t help you. Neither can Buddha, Allah or Krishna.
    Look to Jesus Christ instead.
    The Way, The Truth and the Life.
    Everything else is (literally) a dead end.

    • Guest

      Amen.

    • PotHead69

      ???? So pompous. My imaginary freind is real, everyone else’s is fake. Cry. How do we ever have an adult discussion over here????

      • Mondobeyondo

        He’s not imaginary.

        Mr. Snuffleupaghus, or however you spell the name of that elephant like creature on “Sesame Street” – yes, he is imaginary.

      • Owsley

        Quit parroting Dawkins with your ‘imaginary friend’ rubbish. It’s just a cute soundbite. God is not imaginary. What about you and your atheistic god of chance. Wow,you have gotta have some real strong faith to take that on board. What about your faith in extremely fortuitous accidents? Hey man,maybe there are multiverses and ours is the one that got lucky!! Yeah,keep smokin that pipe dude. Some people love to feel intellectually superior I guess,while existing as fools.

        • Hammerstrike

          Answer the question, one faith is the true and only one and every other is false, why?

          Silly me, a lulzcow stated so over the internets, I should just take his or her word for it.

  • Mondobeyondo

    A disclaimer:
    You will never understand, unless if you’ve been through the fire.
    I’ve been there.It’s awful. I hate it. HATE IT.
    Would I recommend it?
    Ummm…. No. I would not.

  • jakartaman

    The problem is socialism. not capitalism.
    The USA is not a capitalist nation anymore its a socialist run county with an over regulated socialist government.
    That’s why the capitalist have move out of the USA taking the jobs.

    • PotHead69

      You are so far removed from reality, it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion

  • Mondobeyondo

    Ya know – like any rational human biing, I often wonder about stuff, Weird, irrelevant stuff, like “Why is the world in the shape it’s in right now?”

    Answer: I don’t know why

  • scoubidou123

    Michael,

    Funny how you call the pope completely wrong about inequality. Jesus was never about living according to a system that maximizes material wealth. He was preaching **detachment from** material wealth. You know the young rich man in Matthew 19?

    The young man saith unto him, All these things [commandments] have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
    Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
    But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions

    Jesus adds later:
    every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life

    You know the instructions Jesus gave to his disciples?
    Take nothing for your journey, neither staff, nor wallet, nor bread, nor money; neither have two coats

    You know how the first christians lived?
    the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them

    That’s right! Collectivism and communism was how the disciples and people who had actually heard Jesus preach understood his teaching to mean. Read up on what happened to Ananias

  • Luis

    Only a ruthless county government would do something like that. Such merciless behavior over $6.30 is disgusting. “Woe unto them that decree unrighteousness decrees….” Isaiah 10:1. In the world of taxation, there is nothing more revolting than property taxes.

  • jt

    Michael: I have followed your writings for a number of years and have appreciated your points of view and Christian faith. In this article you state a number of positions where you agree with the Pope but somehow jump to the conclusion that the Pope’s would support the taking of all wealth in an attempt to redistribute it after the fashion of Mao or Pol Pot. Intellectually you can not support that claim because neither this Pope or any other has ever written or said such a thing. Pope Francis has determined that part of his duty is to speak out against injustice, political and economic. The folks who are happily becoming more and more powerful by perpetrating the economic injustice have mounted a campaign to make him seem radically anti-capitalist to discredit him. Unfortunately many conservatives are playing right along with this and will ultimately end up supporting the corrupt and scammed system that now exists.
    To all of you who waste no opportunity bash Catholics at every turn, you must think about how Satan rejoices at the divisions between believers. I stand humble before you, born again, justified and saved, not by works, but through the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Jesus. Jesus is my lord and savior. I am still a Catholic.
    There are many of us out here who support the work of our evangelical and Protestant brothers and sisters. Unfortunately we often feel unable to speak our or assist for every time we open our mouths and hearts the flood of bigotry, propaganda and hatred are unleashed on us.
    JT

    • Nick-Dog

      Well-said, JT!

      • JT

        Thanks. Your comments were also right on.

  • Joe Kleinkamp

    To deduce that the pope is advocating a North Korean type society from his seven word tweet is a bit of a stretch. More likely he’s critical of the same collectivism and corporatism and the governments that support them that you also decry. I believe the solution to inequality the pope would suggest is more ably expressed in the second to last paragraph of your article than in a desire for socialism or other attempts to govern equality into a society.

  • Adonis J. King

    It is very easy to jump in an ISM box and think if everything were like the wonderful things you imagine in YOUR “Ideals box” that everything will be better. There is no magic political ISM that will save the world..You said it best when you stated ” We need to shift away from a culture of greed and selfishness to a
    culture of love, compassion and generosity. Those that have been
    blessed have a responsibility to be a blessing. ” and I totally agree with THAT statement..The problem is that we are taught in Capitalistic societies that the goal is to get EVERYTHING all for ourselves at any cost and without mercy to others.. I do not understand how you expect greedy and selfish wealthy people to learn how to overcome their greed without some form of counter-control. As long as people like the KOCH BRO’s can live with vast accumulations of super-wealth if you take away their taxes and allow them the freedom with their money you propose..well, I just don’t think they could ever understand the needs of the poor since they never have been there thus they will not give fairly nor wisely.. Even if they give they are not qualified to judge best where that gift will help and it will be based on their own fantasy ideas of what needs to be done..It just hands even MORE control to the super-rich to maintain their own hoard ..buy even more houses they will stay in 3 days a year and continue to pollute the environment with even more money to fight against those who oppress their feeling that they have a right to Super-profits as people still starve in the inner cities. Very rarely have I heard anyone who was NEVER poor truly even understand WHY the Poor are poor..Instead they BLAME the poor and tell them “go get a job” that the super-rich already sent to Communist China.. Do you really think we are at a point in time where suddenly the greedy are going to just “wake up and care” unless prodded to do so?..I don’t have that much faith in any human being. To think people can transform like that is to be naive to human behavior and is just aligning yourself with the Super-greedy. Yes America at one time did well without all the things you mentioned but that was a different age when people worked years for the same company IN AMERICA for a fair wage and also had better social skills than the vast majority of the GREEDY today. We do need some form of restart and it absolutely must be fair to all people no matter if they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth or a plastic spoon from the dumpster.

  • jox

    I think Americans have some sort of chip implanted in the brain. When somebody proposes measures against inequalities, even if he is a respectable person and the measures are working in other countries, suddenly somebody cries ‘socialism’ or ‘gary’, and you see people otherwise intelligent and reasonable start behaving like fools, unable to make a calm analysis of such measures. So, it’s no surprise for anybody in the world that the US, even being a rich country, have such large population poor, with hunger or in prison.

    I encourage you to think seriously about measures to redistribute wealth, because the system currently is biased and give advantage to the rich. So, to look for equality is not socialism, but only fair and christian. And don’t let anybody tell you ‘socialism’ or ‘north korea’. Capitalism will be OK even if the 1% own the 15% of the income instead of the 20%. And that 5% can make a much more healthy country.

    • kfilly

      There are certain people I wouldn’t mind stealing the wealth from to return it to the people. That list includes our current politicians, crooked banksters, and others who stole their wealth in the first place. Everyone else who legally earned their wealth can keep it.

  • Floribama

    So, the Pope thinks that inequality is the biggest threat to society? That’s interesting, since the Catholic Church is filled with inequality. It is a system based entirely on exclusivity. This dog don’t hunt. Where are all of the women popes? Is that not inequality? Heal the church before you heal society.

  • DJohn1

    IF I were rich what would I do?
    More than likely, I would set up an island somewhere in a temperate climate and wait for the economic chaos to get over with. It would have high clifts to keep people out. It would be easily defended against invaders.
    It would have a self-substaining economy of workers.
    It would have the latest and greatest technology of medicine and a decent hospital where anyone could get care for free.
    Children would be monitored quietly to figure out what they are best at doing. Then they would be encouraged to do it. Children doing what they enjoy doing means they would do it much better than people that hate what they are doing.
    Underneath all of this would be a system based on no taxes.
    The government would be supported by a system of wealthy people giving their time and money to keep things going. It would be as minimal a government as possible to have.
    It probably would not work. It would be worth a try to break the God of Money syndrome that the entire planet is involved in.
    The country would educate its citizens in accordance with their abilities. All of which would be sponsored by people that all ready have all the money in the world that they need.
    If a person wants to be a doctor, then the entire thing will be sponsored for them including moneys needed to live on while they learn.
    Challenging out of the education system would be a normal way of doing things. That means you take the tests and pass and you get credit for the course. If someone wants to leave after getting educated let them.
    There are a lot of Utopia concepts out there. I suggest we take what really works and discard the rest. On a mini-economic structure, on a small island, it might even work.

    • WeRDone

      The
      first huge dent in your theory is uh, well, airplanes, helicopters, LOL! So much for the “high cliffs that would keep people out” idea. The second and largest dent however is that the very sad part of reality is that where there are humans, there is greed and corruption. Sorry, it sucks to be us…

      • DJohn1

        I did not originate the idea. Two very rich ladies did.
        They actually bought an entire island and started a cattle ranch on it. It wasn’t that far from Hawaii.
        The one sister spent most of her time on the island and had horses.
        The other sister spent most of her time in Atlanta, Georgia. They were worth around 13 billion dollars.
        The tall clifts were to keep people from landing by boat. The helicopters and airplanes really have to have a place to land. Both are rather expensive for civilians. Governments not so much.

        • WeRDone

          What did they start a feminist commune? 2 rich old bags and you say that civilians can’t afford helicopters or planes? Dude…

          • DJohn1

            One of the ladies in question was in Atlanta Society and they had all kinds of media that they owned.
            The other one was a rebel. She was divorced 4 times. She stayed on that ranch in Hawaii and yes they could afford helicopters or practically anything else they wanted.

            Their father was a state governor and vice presidential candidate in the late 1920s under FDR.

  • Andrew

    Why don’t you google it. He helped cover it up. This is why evil is allowed to persist –because people refuse to take their so called leaders off their pedestals and hold them accountable.

  • jox

    Have you really deleted the comments you didn’t like?

  • Nicknakthetruthspeaker

    is the church in vatican still exempt of tax ?

    • davidmpark

      The Vatican is actually a separate country.

  • doug_b

    The Catholic Church is the world’s biggest cult.
    I don’t know why the hell the media reports on anything he says.

    • Luis

      Probably because the Vatican controls most of the world’s media. They are an insanely wealthy organization.

  • Will

    Anyone that lets a rich elite like the Pope tell them how to believe in God and manage money deserves the eternal damnation that they’ll see in the afterlife.

  • geo wells

    The pope is follower of Marx and not of Jesus. Communist killed maybe 250 million in the 20th century alone.

    Evil just takes on different physical forms. maybe the Catholic church will be brought out to take its fair share in the slaughter in the 21st century.

    As for equality and wealth redistribution: diversity is a codeword for White genocide.

  • Trailer Park Investor

    Just goes to prove:
    YOU CAN NOT TRAIN A RABID DOG A NEW TRICK

  • Thomas

    I am a Catholic from India and have been following this blog for over two years now, but todays post deserves a comment and I quote Bishop Fulton Sheen – “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate
    The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly
    perceive the Catholic Church to be.”

    • Nick-Dog

      Well-said Thomas! I could not have said it any better. The level of ignorance regarding what we believe and the heart of the Church is simply frightening. Excellent post!

  • WeRDone

    Okay,
    when are all you religious SHEEP going to realize that religion and mainstream media are exactly the same?!! No wonder in Christianity they say “the lord is my shepherd LOL! They expect you to agree with and believe everything they preach, or you will be persecuted until you no longer exist or just killed like
    in some countries! If you want to believe in something, BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. If you need a set of rules to live by, use the last 6 of the 10 commandments as a starting point. They are but universal rules for all to live by..

    • Richard

      The last 6 without the first 4 are a waist of your time. The Lord Jesus said the Greatest commandment is to “love the Lord thy God with all of thy heart, with all thy soul and with all thy mind.” Mathew 22:37. It is not for us to pick and choose what we think is good and right, but rather what “Thus saith the Lord in His holy word.

      • URDone

        Thanks for verifying what I just wrote, BAAAHAAAHAAAAHHHH.

        • Richard

          URDone for sure. Stick a fork in this boy.

  • Kim

    Yeah sure, pope, let’s redistribute all the wealth. Let’s start with liquidating all Vatican assets and un-necessaries like art, gold, jewelry, cash, et cetera and give it to the people who’s backs this wealth was built upon (extorted from) in the first place like Catholic Philippines, Mexico, Ireland, Europe, North and South America…

    Nah, didn’t think so.

    It’s so funny (not in a ha-ha way) that the Pope is decrying capitalistic greed when the Catholic Church is the greediest, most corrupted money-grubbing institution on the earth. The mother of all greedy institutions.

  • Julie

    Just a quick comment on the Pope’s economic viewpoint. He does not advocate for Socialism, but rather Distributism, as have all of his recent predecessors. This ideology is in stark contrast with Capitalism and Socialism and is not understood by mainstream Americans. Some reaading of G. K. Chesterton can shine some light on this ideology.

  • BlackDog

    How about, “The Pope Is Just Wrong.”, and leave it at that?

  • Thomas

    Man of sin, Son of perdition.

  • Jason7189

    This Pope is probably the False Prophet, foretold in the latter days. We are absolutely in the very last days of this age.

    I say this because all of these end time Prophecies are happening now, at least in part….

    Isaiah 17 & Jeremiah 49:23-27 (Syria -Happening now)
    Isaiah 19 (Egypt -Happening now)
    Zechariah 12:3 (Jerusalem being a burdensome stone -Happening now)
    Joel 3:2 (Nations gathering against Israel -Increasing everyday)
    Daniel 9:27 (Peace treaty being worked on by Kerry/Obama -Happening now)
    Psalm 83 (Israel’s neighbors conspiring against her -Increasing by the day)
    Ezekiel 38 (Iran, Russia and a few other’s will attack Israel over oil/natural gas -Starting to form)

    1 Thessalonians 5:3 “While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.”

    Mass animal die offs are happening, foretold in the books of Hosea, Zephaniah, Ezekiel.

    Jesus Christ’s detailed descriptions throughout the New Testament, of the conditions and state of the World before his return are perfect beyond doubt.

    2014-2015 4 blood moons, Israel start to build the Third Temple (Referenced in Daniel 9:27 and Mark 13:14)
    1967-1968 4 blood moons, Israel recaptured Jerusalem
    1949-1950 4 blood moons, Israel became a Nation
    1493-1494 4 blood moons, Jews expelled from Spain

    There won’t be another 4 blood moon Tetrad, for another 500 years. Plus, it’s only happened 7 (now 8) times since 1AD.

    Matthew 16:3 “Today it will be stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.”

    • GSOB

      “This Pope is probably the False Prophet, foretold in the latter days.”
      This is where your error….

  • Chris Sky

    A Jesuit advocating socialism? And people are surprised?!

  • tacoma

    “Inequality is the root of social evil.”

    “Being the Pope, he should know that the evil that we see all around us is not the result of the distribution of wealth. Rather, it is the result of humanity’s deep rebellion against God.”

    BOTH of these statements are equally absolutely absurd.

  • Pete

    Francis is even a bigger fool that ‘Saint” JPII.

    And he’s not a fool for God; he’s a fool to his own ignorance

  • passion

    I think birth rate inequalities are a source of destabilization.

  • Simon

    You are wrong Michael!You are putting words in the popes mouth. He never said everyone should have equal wealth! He simply said the poor should not be mistreated this was his message. And capitalism is bad regardless of your love for it. And although communist is worse, capitalism will never be okay!

    • Richard

      No. You are putting words in the Pope’s mouth. He said “inequality is the root of all social evil”. The key word in his statement is “inequality” and God never made all men equal anytime or anywhere and He gave us all Different abilities and begat us into Different cultures and Different Nations and Different socio-economic levels of society and the Lord Jesus stated, “the poor you will have with you Always”.

  • scoubidou123

    So guys, where do you get your pro-free market Jesus? Is it when he drives out everyone in the temple market, oevrturning all tables and yelling they were robbers? Is it when he advises the virtuous rich young man to sell all his possesions and give them to the poor? Is it the Sermon on the Mount, when Jesus says you cannot serve both God and money?

    Sorry guys, but to me pope Francis is doing his job of reminding us all of Jesus teachings, and you’re a bunch a Mammon worshippers squirming at the message.

    • Richard

      No. The Pope is wrong when he says that “inequality is the root of all social evil”, because in Mathew chapter 25 for example the Lord himself gave talents to three men; 5 to one, two to another and one to another according to each his several ability. By the Popes owns words the actions by the Lord were evil, because He did not distribute the talents equally. This is only one of Many statements this Pope, as have his predecessors made that are completely unscriptural with the Word of God.

      • scoubidou123

        You do realize that this is a parable, that Jesus is not actually discussing an actual worker compensation plan? That he is talking about the need to use your gifts? Don’t you?

        • Richard

          Yes. All parables have a practical application to our earthly lives in order to Teach a lesson that the Lord wants us to know. He does Not waste words on useless or senseless sayings, but rather attempts to convey a truth, so that people may understand what He requires.

          • scoubidou123

            absolutely! So in this case, Jesus tells this little story (btw, pay attention! The Lord himself did not actually give anything to anyone) of some man entrusting different amounts of money to different people, but the story, though nominally about coins, is not that 5% is > 0%, no, the moral of the story is about not going through life timidly doing the safest thing, but about engaging completely in what you do. So, I am sorry, it’s a valiant attempt but you got it completely wrong, and you still cannot come up with anything to counter my many quotings of the Gospel and money. Again, the pope pays attention to Jesus teaching and you don’t.

          • Richard

            Obviously, you are hopeless Pope worshipper. The meaning of Words as given in holy scripture mean Nothing to you as you freely change them to suit your own definition so as to support your own argument.

  • Nick-Dog

    Michael, dude. You are reading all your own biases into what the Pope “must mean” here. Step back and take a more objective look.

    Before he was Pope, Cardinal Bergoglio was visiting the poor in the off-limit slums of Argentina that Ferfal, before he expatriated, warned us about. Yet as a Cardinal, he went among them anyway, seeing it as his duty to minister to them, just as he went among the poor on his trip to South America as Pope.

    Secondly, the Catholic Church has a view of economics based on the principles of Solidarity and Subsidiarity, and even personal statements from the Pope, as this seems to have been, should be viewed in that light. The abuses of unrestricted capitalism were descried in Rerum Novarum and similar encyclicals. Socialism has also been consistently condemned by the Catholic Church. In fact, Pope John Paul II played a massive role in bringing down communism in Europe by rallying behind Lech Walesa.

    Third, not every statement made by a Pope is ex cathedra. As I’ve explained to you before, this Pope is attempting to frame the principles of the Faith in relaxed language, i.e., layman’s terms, in effort to capture and present the Faith simply. This is not always easily accomplished, unfortunately, because panic princes of all varieties are waiting to jump on him after what he see says or teaches next.

    Alas, as a Catholic, well-versed in my Faith, I’d appreciate it if you put the brakes on your jumping to conclusions with regards to the Catholic Church. There are corrupt people in my Church , yea, in all Churches, who are trying to subvert it in one way or the other. However, I honestly don’t believe or see any evidence whatsoever that Pope Francis is one of them.

    God Bless and Godspeed, Michael.

    • Joe Kleinkamp

      This is a comment from someone who is more than just another headline reader and who knows what he’s talking about.

  • Nick-Dog

    It’s easy to make a splash by painting any Pope as this or that. It’s a lot harder to get hits by being nuanced and accurate. In simply reading many of the comments below, the level of anti-Catholic idiocy and ignorance to which you are pandering with the lead-in for this article, Michael, makes me totally question your integrity as a researcher and scholar.

  • BillyBobby

    Equality under the law, like the intent of the Declaration of Independence.

  • 2Gary2

    I love this pope-he is right on.

  • 2Gary2

    Let’s get it straight. Wealth inequality is due to accumulation of
    profits at the cost of the workers who make the products and sales that
    make the profits possible. So. You can’t have it both ways. If your
    profits are not being shared with your company’s working members to at
    least the degree of affording them a living wage, so that they are
    reliant on the government taxes for food and medical care – living
    requirements – then the government has the right to take enough money
    from your corporation to cover those expenses. Tax the rich and spread the wealth

    • Adrian

      well-said!

  • 2Gary2

    Michael-face the facts-the pope is correct the rich need to be taxed hard and the wealth spread. period. Stop shilling for the rich and admit the facts. Pickeny is a #1 best seller for a reason.

  • 2Gary2

    If we follow this path to the end, we will ultimately become like North Korea.–michael please-such bs hyperbole. U know better.

  • Adrian

    I posed a liberal paradox before and no one was able to address it. I will do the same again, but instead of thoughtful replies, I fully expect a barrage of angry ad hominems as I burt the myth that so many on here cling to. Here it is: Many on this site often decry the shrinking middle class, growing national debt, and loss of opportunity, as well as rising costs for college (unaware that this is the result of slashed taxes), healhh care (ignorant that this stems from a for profit system with middlemen who seek profits over human health). Many here call for less government, unaware that we’ve seen a period of 40 years of gradual DEREGULATION as it is, with dire results. They say the mythic “free market” is the answer to all problems, and a few cite archaic Biblical verse as if that stands for fact and reason. Yet, inevitably in an unregulated capitalist system, as Marx predicted over 150 years ago, that over time, successful firms will buy out the less successful, growing in power. They will inevitably become less efficient as competition fades, and gain the ability to influence politics. They can then write the laws and they become tyrannical, but we have no bill of rigghts protectinmg us from private power, only government power. So, I ask thes elibertarians how they seek to address this paradox without the inevitable necessity of government regulation of capitalism and the implementation of social democracy. Let the whining and ad hominems begin, as is the norm of this blog.

  • Easy now folks

    What a difference in the demeanors of those supporting the pope and those critical of him and the Church.

  • Mudpie

    Yes I agree. I have tried to pretend that he does not mean what he says. But he does. Lately I have been going back to a Catholic Church where the priest asks that we pray to further to Pope’s intentions. Maybe I should stop going at all.

  • Pans

    yeah it’s either capitalism or north korea! no other way!

  • Eric Quintero

    The Vatican should redistribute the wealth its been siphoning from the planet for centuries. They have more Gold and assets than anyone else. Evil hypocrites.

    Our taxes go to support the Royal Family in London as well as the Vatican and its military branches known as the Knights of Malta and the Jesuits (intelligence branch).

  • TtT Engine

    Pope Francis I, when he speaks on faith and morals, is the Vicar of Christ. When he is not speaking ex cathedra, he is a left leaning socialist, without argument. His personal leftism comes from his So. American background and also many of the Jesuits are lefties. Pope Francis has called out crony capitalism without describing the financial and physical death/destruction caused by communism. He has played politics with environmental paganism, homosexual union/cohabitation, abortion and divorce. Considering the U.S. has committed 55 million abortions, stating for the church not to “obsess” on abortion, demeans the pro-life movement. He has yet to call out/deny the Holy Eucharist to any of the prominent judas catholic politicians [Pelosi, Kennedy, Biden, Kerry, et. als.] on their defiant anti-Catholic stance on abortion. Do not “obsess” on the poor. Christ said they will always be with us. Do not look to evil government to lift up the poor. “Social justice” is a left wing cloaking phrase for abortion, big government control and heavy taxation. They rob/exploit the poor and hand you 30 pieces of silver. 2 Thessalonians 3:10, “a man unwilling to work, is not entitled to eat”. Our first tel-evangelist was Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, God rest his soul. He had it right. Christi Fidelis !

  • freewheelinfranklin543

    Capitalism is private monopoly,Communism is state monopoly. Fascism is what you get when you combine the 2 like we have now here in America.
    Our economic system was called Free Enterprise.
    We weren’t capitalists and when they took over with the federal reserve act we ceased being free enterprise and became capitalist.
    The ignorance displayed by some of these blogs is astounding IMHO!

  • el guapo

    Apparently the Pope has never heard of “Thou shalt not steal”

  • JM

    Pope Francis is a Jesuit, they are the top of the Illuminati pyramid. He might be the False Prophet. Very interesting and historic time period we live in.

  • Wielki_piotr

    Solon the Great, who initiated the first democracy, spoke about the causes of the demise of Athens, dressed in the guise of a beggar, since in Athens; men were legally responsible for what they said. Solon urged,

    “Behold the inhabitants of the city are minded to bring about the destruction there of, through their love of gain. They who lead them are of treacherous minds. But, verily sorrow and lamentations are about to fall upon then in their pride. Behold they know not to contain their lusts; they heed not the holy foundations of righteousness. Justice in silence lets things take their course until the latter end, when surely comes the time of retribution. Behold a dire destruction comes upon the city. Our cherished city is wasted away by those secret combinations which are the delight of evil men. Thus, evil worketh its way among the people. Many of the poor and needy are loaded with shameful chains and sold into bondage in foreign lands.”

    I am reminded of the Latin phrase, De Nobis Fabula Narratur, meaning that their story is about us.

  • nekksys

    It seems strange to me that others still insist wealth redistribution is a GOOD thing. Instead of taking everything away from everyone and redistributing it all, how about we just take everything and throw it all in a big pile and let everyone take what they NEED as opposed to what they WANT? Isn’t this pretty much how primitive cultures around the world live? Isn’t this also how the Native Americans lived for centuries until The White Man came and imposed his beliefs and way of life? (Yes, I’m white; I can say that…)

    I have become a firm believer in returning to primitive ways of living and being. We honestly need little else other than food, water, clothing and shelter. (I’m still a bit iffy on the clothing need; We could do without and be OK if we could get everyone to not sexualize certain body parts…)

  • Yoshimine

    People need to realize… after the 1960’s, many of the human beings in whose hands the Catholic Church now resides officially, made a radical departure from Catholic tradition, in spirit if not in personal teaching in the name of “modernizing” things.

    Problem is, however golden the intentions, you can’t “modernize” reality or truth. If it’s true, it does not change. 2+2=4 was true from the garden of Eden, to today, and always will be. Even the pope has not the power (according to Catholic doctrine) to alter the teachings of the Catholic Church in any way from what they have always been, and always must be, because they are truths (therefore not subject to change, just like the rest of reality).

    This article… assuming it’s true… would be a perfect example of that radical departure in (personal, not the Church’s actual) teaching, spirit or thought of some, from the Church’s official teachings, for the last 2,000 years… in this case, on material and social justice.

    Pope Leo XIII wrote the reality down in his encyclical Rerum Novarum (on capital and labor):

    “4. To remedy these wrongs the socialists, working on the poor man’s envy of the rich, are striving to do away with private property, and contend that individual possessions should become the common property of all, to be administered by the State or by municipal bodies. They hold that by thus transferring property from private individuals to the community, the present mischievous state of things will be set to rights, inasmuch as each citizen will then get his fair share of whatever there is to enjoy. But their contentions are so clearly powerless to end the controversy that were they carried into effect the working man himself would be among the first to suffer. They are, moreover,
    emphatically unjust, for they would rob the lawful possessor, distort the functions of the State, and create utter confusion in the community.

    5. It is surely undeniable that, when a man engages in remunerative labor, the impelling reason and motive of his work is to obtain property, and thereafter to hold it as his very own. If one man hires out to another his strength or skill, he does so for the purpose of receiving in return what is necessary for the satisfaction of his needs; he therefore expressly intends to acquire a right full and real, not only to the remuneration, but also to the disposal of such remuneration, just as he pleases. Thus, if he lives sparingly,
    saves money, and, for greater security, invests his savings in land, the land, in such case, is only his wages under another form; and, consequently, a working man’s little estate thus purchased should be as completely at his full disposal as are the wages he receives for his labor. But it is precisely in such power of disposal that ownership obtains, whether the property consist of land or chattels. Socialists, therefore, by endeavoring to transfer the possessions of
    individuals to the community at large, strike at the interests of every wage-earner, since they would deprive him of the liberty of disposing of his wages, and thereby of all hope and possibility of increasing his resources and of bettering his condition in life.

    6. What is of far greater moment, however, is the fact that the remedy they propose is manifestly against justice. For, every man has by nature the right to possess property as his own… it must be within his right to possess things not merely for temporary and momentary use, as other living things do, but to have and to hold them in stable and permanent possession; he must have not only things that perish in the use, but those also which, though they have been reduced into use, continue for further use in after time.

    7. This becomes still more clearly evident if man’s nature be considered a little more deeply. For man, fathoming by his faculty of reason matters without number, linking the future with the present, and being master of his own acts, guides his ways under the eternal law and the power of God, whose providence governs all things. Wherefore, it is in his power to exercise his choice not only as to matters that regard his present welfare, but also about those which
    he deems may be for his advantage in time yet to come. Hence, man not only should possess the fruits of the earth, but also the very soil, inasmuch as from the produce of the earth he has to lay by provision for the future. Man’s needs
    do not die out, but forever recur; although satisfied today, they demand fresh supplies for tomorrow. Nature accordingly must have given to man a source that is stable and remaining always with him, from which he might look to draw continual supplies. And this stable condition of things he finds solely in the earth and its fruits. There is no need to bring in the State. Man precedes the State, and possesses, prior to the formation of any State, the right of
    providing for the substance of his body…”

    I suggest everyone find Rerum Novarum and read it, if they want to know the true Catholic position… quite interesting, and refreshingly sane! (And Catholic!) Pope Leo XIII had a lot of interesting things to say about our current state of affairs, in fact…

  • Yoshimine

    Note: the “radical departure” would be if there is (actually, in his statements) any implication that some people owning more than others is somehow inherently wrong, eg, that owning personal property while others have nothing, is “wrong” … as it is clearly justice that a person is entitled to the fruits of their labor, even if according to charity, they are bound to share what they have over and above what they need.

    If it was only implied, however, that we DO share… and not that ownership of private property is wrong, that would not be any departure.

    Another departure would be if it were actually suggested that soclaism or communism are right paths, as again, in justice they are wrong.

    But I may have misunderstood the statements of today’s pope or the implications thereof… If all he’s really trying to say, is that we should look after the poor, then obviously there would be nothing wrong with that.

  • Hank Kingsley

    This ‘god’ does not exist. Religion is an invention of the elite to keep the masses down and dumb. Get with the program and stop believing in nonsense like ‘santa’, ‘god’ or the easter bunny.

    The elites fooled you good! No wonder they do so well, all the suckers think they’re gonna get a slice in the ‘next’ life, what a joke!

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  • Justin Case

    The pope is a Marxist jack A. S. S.

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