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‘You’re Fired – Now Train Your Much Cheaper Foreign Replacement’

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Fired - Photo by XonecaIf you were laid off from your job, would you be willing to train your replacement if your company threatened to take away your severance pay if you didn’t do it?  And how would you feel if your replacement came from India, and the only reason your company was replacing you was because the foreign worker was a lot less expensive?  Sadly, this is happening all over America – especially in the information technology field.  Huge corporations such as Disney and Southern California Edison are coldly firing existing tech workers and filling those jobs with much cheaper foreign replacements.  They are doing this by blatantly abusing the H-1B temporary worker visa program.  Workers that had been doing a solid job for decades are being replaced without any hesitation just because it will save those firms a little bit of money.  There is very, very little loyalty left in corporate America today.  Even if you have poured your heart and your soul into your company for years, that ultimately means very little.  The moment that your usefulness is over, most firms will replace you in a heartbeat these days.

When I learned that Disney was doing this, I was absolutely outraged.  Talk about a company that is going down the toilet.  The following comes from the New York Times

While families rode the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and searched for Nemo on clamobiles in the theme parks, these workers monitored computers in industrial buildings nearby, making sure millions of Walt Disney World ticket sales, store purchases and hotel reservations went through without a hitch. Some were performing so well that they thought they had been called in for bonuses.

Instead, about 250 Disney employees were told in late October that they would be laid off. Many of their jobs were transferred to immigrants on temporary visas for highly skilled technical workers, who were brought in by an outsourcing firm based in India. Over the next three months, some Disney employees were required to train their replacements to do the jobs they had lost.

I just couldn’t believe they could fly people in to sit at our desks and take over our jobs exactly,” said one former worker, an American in his 40s who remains unemployed since his last day at Disney on Jan. 30. “It was so humiliating to train somebody else to take over your job. I still can’t grasp it.

Honestly, I don’t think that I could do it.

I don’t think that I could train my much cheaper foreign replacement.

But if you are the average American that is just barely scraping by from paycheck to paycheck, I guess complete and total humiliation is better than losing your home to foreclosure.

Out on the west coast, Southern California Edison did the exact same thing that Disney did.  The following is an excerpt from a Fox News report

Anonymous workers who were displaced by the visa holders also submitted written testimonials to lawmakers detailing their firings. Several claimed they were forced to train their replacements, and threatened with losing their severance if they did not.

We had no choice in this,” one anonymous worker who claimed to have been one of those let go from Southern California Edison, said in a letter. The worker described how when the two vendors were picked – Infosys and TCS, both major Indian companies – SCE employees were told to “sit with, video chat or do whatever was needed to teach them our systems.”

If they did not cooperate, according to the testimonial, “we would be fired and not receive a severance package.”

That is wrong on so many levels.  But this is what corporate America has become today – a cold, heartless place that has absolutely no empathy for the average worker.

These workers at Southern California Edison were even told that the firm “could replace one of us with three, four, or five Indian personnel” and still save money on the deal

They told us they could replace one of us with three, four, or five Indian personnel and still save money,” one laid-off Edison worker told me, recounting a group meeting with supervisors last year. “They said, ‘We can get four Indian guys for cheaper than the price of you.’ You could hear a pin drop in the room.”

The original intent of the H-1B temporary worker visa program was to allow U.S. companies to import foreign workers to do jobs that they were unable to fill with American workers.

But that is not what is happening.

Instead, the H-1B temporary worker visa program is being used to replace thousands upon thousands of well paid American workers.

It is a disgusting practice and it needs to stop.  There has been so much outrage over this that it has even gotten the attention of the U.S. Senate.  The following is from a letter that a bipartisan group of U.S. Senators sent to the Attorney General

A number of U.S. employers, including some large, well-known, publicly-traded corporations, have reportedly laid off thousands of American workers and replaced them with H-1B visa holders.  To add insult to injury, many of the replaced American employees report that they have been forced to train the foreign workers who are taking their jobs. This troubling practice seems to be particularly concentrated in the information technology (IT) sector, which is not surprising given that sixty five percent of H-1B petitions approved in FY 2014 were for workers in computer-related occupations.  Though such reports of H-1B-driven layoffs have been circulating for years, their frequency seems to have increased dramatically in the past year alone.

So has anything been done about this?

Of course not.

Instead, Barack Obama is working on an extremely secretive global economic treaty which will reportedly allow far more foreign workers to come into this country and which will result in millions more good paying jobs being shipped overseas.  It is called “The Trans-Pacific Partnership”, and it is basically NAFTA on steroids.

Why is it that Barack Obama has to be on the wrong side of every single issue?

The U.S. middle class is being systematically ripped to shreds, and most Americans are showing very little alarm about this.

How much damage has to be done before people will finally start waking up?

  • Mike Smithy

    Just play along with the charade by providing the outward appearance of cooperation. Provide disinformation to your replacement in an effort to sabotage management efforts. Then collect your severance check and laugh as you walk out the door,

    • Om Anamaha

      Dedicated to those Americans who fervidly worship their Constitution:
      The Constitution is based on British Common Law, Vatican’s Code of Canon Law and Admiralty Law (influenced the latter by the Ordinamenta et Consuetudo Maris). As a matter of jurisprudence, this historical document adheres to the doctrine that Admiralty Law prevails over Common Law and goes in accordance with Canon Law.

      According to the U.S. Constitution, all individuals born (and naturalized) within the territories in which the corporation called THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA exerts an effective jurisdiction are cataloged as less than human beings (even lower animals are vested with natural and legal rights); these people automatically lose their quality of natural persons either by birth or naturalization; instead, they become Financial Instruments until the day they cease to exist – real or virtual documents representing a legal agreement involving some sort of monetary value.

      Ironically, Americans still believe in the paradigm that they are “free,” when the reality is the opposite and the charter implicitly defines them as subservients: Article I, Section 2, 3rd clause, first sentence (the legal scope of The Three-Fifths Compromise went beyond the issue of slavery and the Thirteenth Amendment only nullified such ancient practice per se, must not its ulterior purpose).

      Financial Instruments (US Citizens) cannot abrogate the charter (the Constitution); however they are exchangeable or can be treated as common stock for citizenship purposes.

      Immigration is not a civil affair per se, instead it is governed by Admiralty Law: registration of aliens under a juryless court system.

      • Mike Smithy

        Are you going to try and sell me one of those Freeman Offset Bonds? You know the one, on official looking paper with your name in ALL CAPS.

    • Max

      Don’t forget the proverbial middle finger as you walk out of said door

    • Guest

      Can’t do that. Your boss and “Team India” will make real sure these morons that can barely speak English have diagrams and notes out the wazoo.

      Took the “replacements” a year of working with me to figure out my job and clients.

      Plus in order to still receive any money afterwards (one cannot live on air) I’m not allowed to say the company name in public in connection with outsourcing.

      Not to worry, Patrick Gallagher will rot in hell for betraying America and his employees for his god, $$$

    • Exactly, and add in a few acts of sabotage as well. Screw this… I would never go out of my way to make it easy for someone to replace me.

    • fred G.

      I’m currently at a major apparel corporation that sells (doesn’t make S***t) jeans. they outsourced manufacturing in early 2000’s, then outsourced IT in 2008. I had to watch the exact same scenario that’s been mention in this article, not only that, I was picked up by the outsourcer. not only is this entire scenario wrong, but now those of us picked up by the outsourcer are working more hours than ever, haven’t had a pay increase since 2009 (1.5 percent), treated like crap by the same employees we use to work side by side with, they get much better salaries (not to mention 6-10% bonuses), and no matter what (OR LACK thereof) they do, they’re NEVER wrong. I can’t blame either my previous employer or current employer for any of this…….IT’S THE FRIGGING MORONS IN OUR GOVERNMENT THAT HAVE SOLD US OUT.
      Wondering how much longer before what use to be the middle-class revolts? Our ‘elected’ idiots have just about wiped out the middle class while increasing the wealth at the upper-class level…can’t go on forever.

      • Jack Burton

        “IT’S THE FRIGGING MORONS IN OUR GOVERNMENT THAT HAVE SOLD US OUT.” Absolutely correct.

        • Nemnor

          Absolutely WRONG!

          The Government is simply a “tool” of the Ruling Class (“the 1%”) in the USA, and, this is an example of the Government (selectively) letting the Capitalists operate FREELY, according to their profit/greed “needs”.

          However the main root cause of the problem (i.e. Workers all over the world competing against each other in a race towards the lowest wage) is – the world-wide Capitalist system itself – which is now decadent, and on a continuous decline towards total collapse/chaos.

          • Priszilla

            The state is always a tool of the ruling class. And every people has the government they deserve.

          • Rebel

            I totally agree.
            At the end of the day, the real ones who are responsable, are the people themselves.
            They keep time after time electing the same ones, and then come crying for the result.
            They could have elected Ron Paul instead of Obama for exemple.
            If you ask me they (the people) are only getting what they deserve. (At least most of them)

          • sgtdoom

            You’re absolutely right, Ron Paul, who has introduced far too much anti-worker legislation in congress would have been ideal. (/sarc)

            You perfectly illustrated why the situation is hopeless in America as long as Ameritards such as yourself are incapable of locating their own butts while sitting on their hands!

          • Jack Burton

            Nemnor, I can see you’re a communist, or probably more appropriately, a collectivist, idiot. We don’t have Capitalism, meaning a true free market, any where in the world. But in the places with the most economic freedom, guess what? People in those places have more wealth and a better quality of life than anywhere else. The problem is indeed the Ruling Class, composed mostly of banksters and their attorney lackeys. These guys write all the damned laws restricting real competition and giving de facto monopolies to the corporations they favor. But collectivism = i.e. socialism – is just another layer of the problem. It’s not the solution. The only solution you’ll ever get a majority of people to agree on is FREEDOM. Not the tyranny of a new Ruling Class of socialist controlling how everyone lives.

          • sgtdoom

            Your ignorance and indoctrination by the predatory capitalist class is showing mightily, sonny.

            You’d best get better educated before making ignorant and uneducated comments.

          • sgtdoom

            Thank you for clarifying that for Fred G. and all the other Ameritards out there.
            Reminds me that the last time I attended a well asdvertised seminar against jobs offshoring only 12 people showed up, and the Trade Watch activist had flown all the way out from D.C. to the hinterlands.

        • Jonathan

          Government is supposed to be for the people by the people. When the people are no longer represented you get the government we have now.

        • old fart

          Just who elected those morons and keep reelecting them?. as long as stupidity rules no change is possible until we have a major economic upset .

          • sgtdoom

            Voted for Nader — voted fo McKinney — voted for Jill Stein.
            Any questions>

      • Namnor

        fred G., why can’t you blame any of your “Employers”??

        Now face the reality here – it is actually the private Capitalist companies (mostly) that are shipping jobs overseas to low-wage countries, and/or replacing American Workers with low-wage Immigrant Workers. (right?)

        While the Government may have some regulations in place to put a “muzzle” on (“free market”) Capitalism, letting millions of jobs be shipped overseas and/or allowing replacement of American Workers with low-wage Immigrant Workers, is a CLEAR example of the Government simply LETTING THE CAPITALISTS DO AS THEY WISH TO DO!!. (right?)

        In other words, this is an example of the Government (selectively) letting the private Capitalist companies operate according to the true nature of “free market” Capitalism.

        • Mr02shadow .

          Socialism is your answer then? Who wins there, the ones at the top, the “ruling class” and we are all treated the same. Everybody stands in line for toilet paper.

          • Jonathan

            Yes th great socialism that ensures the incompetent government runs your life.

          • Nemnor

            Mr02shadow, I can not say “socialism” IS, or is NOT the answer, as the World never experienced genuine “socialism” anywhere, for us to draw accurate reference from and KNOW what works and what would not work.

            However, YOUR impression of what “socialism” is, is also NOT what genuine socialism” is expected (intended) to be.

            Anyway, my answer to Capitalism is a fundamental change towards a sustainable alternative system, that addresses the ABUNDANT needs (NO standing “in line for toilet paper”) of every “rational” individual. However, there are a lot of details and explanations that must go along with this fundamental change. I am asking for an economic system that NEVER existed anywhere in the History of the World.

          • Mr02shadow .

            Good luck with YOUR grand idea. You must think YOUR the one at the top. This has been a great Country, when we settled here there was a saying, “if you don’t work you don’t eat”. I don’t need you to change the system for me, I can make my own way.

          • sgtdoom

            Let me see . . . you sound like either the Mellon family, Rockefeller family or Koch family?

          • Priszilla

            Most people in capitalist countries know socialism only from their mass media.
            They talk about socialism like the blind talking about colour.

          • Priszilla

            It wasn’t the choice of the socialist countries to be excluded from the world market. They had to invent tge wheel anew because “free market” america said wheels can be used for military hence socialists are not allowed to buy wheels on the “free” market.

          • Mr02shadow .

            Your an idiot

          • Priszilla

            Please elaborate.

          • sgtdoom

            You are speaking of totalitarianism.
            Begin by studying Michael Perelman (“Invention of Capitalism”), would also recommend Prof. Michael Hudson’s books and columns, and Thorstein Veblen, and Henry George, etc.

        • Jonathan

          That’s why we should have laws and Law makers that fail to govern for the people and by the people are failures. It is their fault. You can’t blame capitalism when we aren’t seeing true capitalism. What we see now is crony capitalism.

          • Nemnor

            Jonathan, what do you mean by “true” capitalism? What kind of Capitalism is “true” capitalism to you? You need to make up your mind.

            Genuine “free market” Capitalism will ALSO allow for jobs to be shipped overseas and/or the replacement of higher paid Workers with low-wage Workers. Because with “free market” Capitalism, the Government will remain mostly “hands off” and let the Capitalists and “the Market” determine what the Capitalists will do to secure/increase their profits.

            BUT, if you are calling for “laws” to “restrict” the actions of the Capitalists, then you are asking for a form of “regulated”/”muzzled”/”directed” Capitalism.

            In the case of the USA, it is a kind of “mixed” (selective) situation. The US Government have certain laws/regulation to “control”/”restrict” the action of the Capitalists (i.e. a degree of “regulated” Capitalism). But then in selective ways, the Government also allow the Capitalists to do as they see fit (i.e. a degree of “free market” Capitalism).

            However, when the Capitalists are allowed to ship jobs overseas, it IS the decision of the Capitalist to do so, and they could decide to do the “patriotic” thing (i.e. a sacrifice for their Country) and NOT ship jobs overseas. (right?)

          • Priszilla

            You elect your government. With 70% not even caring what happens. You got what youvdeserve

          • sgtdoom

            True capitalism is the majority working to benefit a select minority (selected by that minority).
            True socialism is the majority working to benefit the majority!

          • jonodough

            true capitalism is about maximising profits. i agree. it is not about stepping on your fellow human being to get ahead or hurting someone to line your pocket. the world is a very ugly place today. human beings are Gods worst creation.

        • P. Long

          ‘Selectively’ is the key to your thought, Namnor. Crony capitalism is the right moniker for this system. If we still had Jonathan’s government, we’d be fine. I don’t want communism or socialism. They look good in writing, but when put into practice that ‘selective’ stuff you’ve written about comes into play and the place starts looking like Europe at best, or Korea on the other end of the continuum.

          • sgtdoom

            You don’t even know what socialism is, just as you have no idea what capitalism is.

            Quit watching so much TV and movies and start learning.

        • afchief

          Wow! More proof that liberalism truly is a mental disorder!

        • sgtdoom

          Because Fred G. is one of the many hopelessly ignorant and uneducated Americans who are eternally clueless as to who owns anything, and therefore, everything, in America today.

          He probably actually believes those robber barons who have themselves routinely rebranded as “philanthropists” — really are!

          He is one of those idiots who steadfastly believes those commercials forever proclaiming that, we the People, own everything through our 401(k)s!

          In other words, he is a capitalist who somehow, unfathomably, believes we live in a Socialist Paradise?

      • none

        FIRST the good news fred G.
        If you notice the top two sides of this blog!
        Filson AMERICAN made clothing is being advertised!
        2nd: What is new here? President Obama saw this way back when he was a senator before being elected eight years ago! ( I used to read about this to).
        So whats is new here?

      • john

        How can you not blame your employer. The government may allow it out of corruption but your employer also does it out of greed. You should blame the corporations as well!

        • sgtdoom

          He can’t blame his employer as he’s never heard of the term, “lobbyist.”

    • Orange Jean

      Agreed! I hate to admit it, but I’ve seen some absolutely brilliant moves by computer programmers who where laid off who before doing so put what I call a “time bomb” in their programs. I got stuck “inheriting” their code and had to figure it out and it took months and months to do so. Learned a lot in the process though! Time bombs are not computer bugs or viruses or anything like that which could get you in big trouble…. but this is what they did:

      1. Write all your code in complicated ways that work well but are a total bi*ch to figure out or decipher if you weren’t the original programmer.

      Almost all my code works brilliantly but all my Gen Y co-workers (fresh out of school who think they are somehow instantly better than I am with 30+ years experience)…. whine and complain they can’t understand the code. I use a lot of Boolean operators, as I’m good with logic… and more recently started using macros more.

      It helps that as a SAS programmer I can use “old” methods and styles of coding that are no longer taught, which you can’t find help for on the internet or in most books… but work as well as they ever did. And every time I try to teach one of the new sprouts how to do what I do, they are not interested because they have some new fangled method they think is better just because it’s new… and they assume I’m too old and don’t know what I’m doing. Their disrespect for my experience in the end helps me, not them.

      2. Use a lot of macros, which are much harder to debug. I resisted this for years, until I figured out how helpful it could be to keep someone else from screwing with your programs if you are required to keep them in a “shared” area.

      I know this sounds paranoid, but I know people have messed with my code I was required to store on a shared drive. So now I backup my most important code on my C drive and whenever I have trouble running something I know should work, I check to see if someone (can never tell who) changed part of “my” code so it doesn’t work or is wrong. When that happens I just replace it with my backup. Seen that multiple times, unfortunately.

      3. Imbed in a macro a reference to another macro in a file that was in your personal files that you know they will delete as soon as you leave or that you delete on your way out the door.

      4. For all your big programs write a 2nd program that looks mostly the same but has macros with a chunk of code removed from the middle of it. On your way out the door, replace the code you “trained” your replacement out with the code with the chunks missing.

      Unless the person they hire is an absolute genius it is darn near impossible to debug and figure out what went wrong. Your replacement may take MONTHS to figure it out… or more likely will NEVER be able to figure it out.

      • ray

        Revenge can be nice and all but at the end of the day you still lost your job and income.

        • Orange Jean

          Oh I agree with you on that!

          BTW, I do not myself implement #3 or #4; just passing along that info in case someone has gotten notice and wants to have a suggestion of what they could do to at least make themselves feel better.

          Myself, haven’t gotten laid off in years… I suspect that is because I use method #1 and #2; both of which I feel are totally ethical. I have however been taken advantage of, used to solve a problem and then my project gets passed along to someone else who gets more credit for my work than I do. But they still paid me in the meantime.

          Programmers are especially vulnerable, but sometimes they are their own worse enemy. When looking for some ideas on how to approach programming problems I have often seen posts by people who are obviously Indian who also obviously haven’t a clue what they are doing (not even the most basic programming skills)… asking questions online how to do this and that, and they often get answers. I’ve made it a policy not to be so helpful, alas… that is not in my nature but I feel I have to protect myself.

        • jonodough

          someone like orange jean will alway be able to find work. don’t worry about them.

      • sgtdoom

        Sadly, you sound like the typical “get-over” American, parsing everything, viewing everything at the individual, infantile point of view.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      Mike Smithy previously:
      “Twenty-two (22) years ago, I sent a $450.00 check to the former INS in an effort to sponsor my sister-in-law to come to America from the Philippines. She is still waiting in line. How is this fair?”

      • Mike Smithy

        And your point is?…….

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          My point is that those who endorse immigration should be the least to incite sabotage.. Actually, nobody should. However, I know words fall daft upon hypocritical ears.

    • sgtdoom

      I finally learned my lesson at the last den of Satan (a small, obscure company undergoing a Baird Private Equity leveraged buyout “pump and dump” — always bug the CEO’s office (or at least your immediate boss if your CEO is geographically removed).

    • RageHard84

      Will there be backlash if you get caught?

  • ray

    And they are getting Limo rides from the airport to the company provided high end corporate apartments where they have dorm style living, I drive them all the time, it started about 3 years ago on a big scale and is now the norm, drivers know what is is but a run is a run. They are outsourcing IT jobs held by Americans by insourcing these workers.
    It’s kinda hard for me to really feel bad for these IT workers even though it’s a tragedy because before I became a ground transportation driver with no future I was in manufacturing and we all know what became of that. They got to keep their job security for a few more years because they kept the cyber gears going while the work was outsourced.
    IT jobs going are the 2nd wave of this assault.

    • Simon

      if you don’t like the way things are being handled in corporate America, then look for another job or move to another place (or country). Additionally you should learn another language, because in today’s modern economy being bilingual is a precious asset…comprende? verstanden sie mich?

      • Guest

        Get out of here, troll.

      • Ray

        I said what I see at the airport, the facts on what is going on I can confirm it ,the landscape has changed, it is the way it is guy how could anyAmerican like it anymore,People like me and my family wish we could leave but you don’t see many Americans that have a Sovereign nation to go to, we were the last bastion and it was given away for greed. As far as Foreign Languages I agree with you, as you pick fruit in your later years you better know some spanish.

      • True Grit

        Modern?… You mean Dying

      • Nemnor

        Simon, what to seem to NOT understand is that this massive assault on the American Workers (and Workers the World over) is relentless and never-ending.

        That more and more will be taken away from the Working class – while the world-wide Capitalist system put Workers in ever country to compete at the international level against each other for the LOWEST WAGE!!

    • True Grit

      I’m actually laughing about it.
      My family, small manufacturing job shop went from 150 employees down to 3 employees after 50 years in business because of CHINA. (and the idiots in government who allowed it)
      I’ve had IT people discount my plight and tell me “its too expensive”
      to manufacture products here.
      I say welcome aboard the good ship “Cast Off”

      • True grit I am afraid I would not be as polite as you are by telling them to cast off. The last part of your statement is part of the statement I would use, only the first word would rhyme with truck

    • Mark Sivad

      IT jobs are the FIRST wave.

  • Tim

    “But this is what corporate America has become today – a cold, heartless place that has absolutely no empathy for the average worker.”

    You’re absolutely right, Michael. I work for a well-known company, and morale at my workplace is terrible because we’re overworked and underpaid.

    • yukos

      stop whining..this is the 21st Century…corporations rule
      End of story

      • Tim

        I’m not whining. I’m substantiating Michael’s assertion.

    • Nemnor

      This has ALWAYS been the true nature of the Capitalist economic system, in the USA and elsewhere. The true nature of the system is simply “hidden” (somewhat) when things are on the “upswing”.

      Now the only direction for the decadent world-wide Capitalist system is continuous decline towards total collapse/chaos. There is NO real (permanent) solution within Capitalism, as the system is now at a “dead end”.

      • squireparty

        I sure hope so. Capitalism really sucks and it’s a waste of the short time we have on this earth.

        • Mike

          One way ticket to North Korea coming up!

          • squireparty

            I’ll pass on the ticket to North Korea…..that would be the other insane extreme. Were I to leave the US, I’d be looking for saner healthcare costs and a slower pace of life and more basic respect for human rights and human dignity. Some examples might be Chile or Uruguay.

    • Avner

      But but if you don’t give a two weeks notice you are a POS. Show them the same loyalty they show you – none.

  • Pryman

    This has been going on in America for decades.

  • Catman

    This is all part of Obama’s fundamental transformation of America. He is doing everything in his power to dilute America’s historic white culture and influence. Look at his appointments. They are top heavy with blacks and Muslims compared to their percentage of the population. He is intentionally benefiting minorities at the expense of Caucasians to the point of importing foreigners to do jobs held by whites. For Obama this is personal payback for slave holding and past discrimination. He is making the children pay for the sins of the fathers. One thing for certain: if the TPP is passed it will not benefit whites along with everyone else. It will provide a framework to continue to legally dilute the white culture.

    • Avner

      At this rate, there is no more “America.” It’s now some corporate property. Who knows, maybe they will put a banana on the flag where the stars are. At least it’d be honest.

    • algol2000

      America has been, and will always be, a slave colony. Your responsibility is to find a way to escape the colony. Migrate to another country.

      • squireparty

        Seriously, I think this is the only answer. There is no hope or future in America any more, and therefore no logical reason not to bail.

    • K2

      the current prez, Bush jr, Clinton, Bush sr, to my knowledge. Plan of these four if you count from the beginning of the drafting of NAFTA.

    • Gay Veteran

      get a clue, this started with Slick Willie and NAFTA

  • Orac4Prez

    Not new. In Australia we have 457 visas for just that purpose. The Chinese “conned” the government to allow their companies to operate sweat shops on Australian soil, with Chinese labor so they avoid tax – all money is paid in China, and raw and semi processed materials coming from China. That way they can claim it has local content and is sold on as Australian goods.

    • df NJ

      The USA has the Mariana Islands as our made in the USA slave labor camp.

      • Gay Veteran

        don’t forget our prisons

  • kathym2

    In my apartment complex there are a ton of these workers from India here. They are working for the car company right down the street. Sickening.

    • Mark Sivad

      Seen the same thing in Austin.

    • margincall

      and they breed like Effing rabbits. Which is also part of the plan. Guaranteed cheap labor down the road. I live with these Cockroaches in a high rise, major metro area. they have 2 kids in a high rise. Means nothing to these animals. Its americans fault. Go in the elevator all they care about is their IShit and social media.

  • K

    Pity it seems no one knows how to fight back anymore. Disney gets rid of 250 employees. I would have filed 250 complaints with EEOC. Claiming racial, gender and age related bias. Let Disney prove it is not true. It will cost them plenty. Then I would take a little walk around the amusement park. Bet I could find at least a dozen OSHA violations. With the new water restrictions in California. I could most likely find a few violations there. Any sort of water discharge or fumes of any kind. Might need to have EPA look into that. Finally, they withhold my severance package. File charges with the department of labor, claiming whistleblower status. With all the rules that have been passed. You have better learn how to use them.

    • Genada

      Disney is a large corporation. All those things you mention is not rules for them, it’s the rules put in place to prevent small businesses from forming to compete against them.

      • K

        Actually Disney has had to pay OSHA fines. And I helped a friend with an EEOC complaint against a Government agency. It took a while, but he won. You never know until you try. I would rather go down fighting, than give up. I understand the big corporations are powerful, and not easy to beat. But next to no one trying. Is part of the reason we are where we are today.

      • MiniBooger

        You’re right. 250 people would just create a fiscal nuisance. But my crystal ball says they won’t stop with IT personnel. Next, there will be a foreign contractor wearing Mickey Mouse’s suit, serving up your burger and selling the souvenirs. At that point, it will become more than a fiscal nuisance.

      • K2

        Exactly, thank you. I said the same thing before that the laws/taxes/regulations (atleast most of them) against small-businesses were/are more to protect and favor big business and stifle small business.

        Its like this in every country where big businesses are powerful.

  • WhySoSerious?

    Print more money! That’s the only answer I got!

  • John

    I read today that the laid-off Disney workers have been black-listed by Disney so that they cannot be hired by Disney contractors for 2 years.

  • Genada

    The big secret that is not really looked into or discussed much is that our upper class no longer think of themselves as Americans. It’s the same in all the western world. The elite hold no allegiance other then to themselves.

    Globalization will lead to wage parity and for that to happen, Americans standard of living must go down. There’s minor lip service payed to bringing others up but really it’s not going to happen, it will be the western world going down to reach the lowest point.

    America has no need to look or fear enemies from abroad. It is being destroyed from within.

    • Avner

      Socialists, Communists, Fascists are all internationalists at heart. Their systems can’t survive long term in just one country, they have to consume everything around them. Like Mrs. Thatcher said… the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people’s money.

      • John Gundersen

        Spot on!

      • Nemnor

        Avner, you are confused and miss-educated. The Ruling Class (“the 1%”) in the USA and anywhere in the Western World are definitely NOT “socialist” or “communist” (i.e. according to the strict definition of what a “socialist” or a “communist” is, and keeping in mind that the World NEVER experienced GENUINE “socialism” or “communism” anywhere, for us to draw an accurate reference from and KNOW that it works or does not work).

        Anyway… the UK was declining before Mrs. Thatcher, DURING the reign of Mrs. Thatcher and AFTER Mrs. Thatcher. So Mrs. Thatcher only SEEM to have true wisdom and understanding. But, “by their fruits you shall KNOW them”. Whatever Mrs. Thatcher did and said, she was NOT able to stop the RELENTLESS DECLINE of the UK!! Everything she did to bring about long-term recovery of the UK economy, ultimately turned out to be in VAIN!!

        Take this as an indication that Mrs. Thatcher (and the likes of Ronald Reagan, etc.) never had TRUE knowledge and understanding of the main root cause of the major economic issues facing countries like the UK and the USA.

        They refuse to open their minds and eyes to SEE (or were they pretending not to see?) that – it is Capitalism itself that became DECADENT, and is at a “dead end”, and is NOT able to generate long-term recovery by economic means alone.

        • Nemnor

          I must add that, as the world-wide economic system continues to DECLINE, the hope for the future of the World includes sufficient people becoming GENUINE Internationalists (by this I mean, people who want good for ALL in every country, and not just for “the 1%”) .

          ANY knowledgeable person would KNOW that, (extreme) Patriotism and (extreme) Nationalism, are the very “stuff” from which World Wars are created. (right?)

    • From the Isis loving Barack obbamie and his butt buddy George soros. The spineless pussified elected representatives are to blame too

    • alan

      Destruction of the families and associated values.

  • Paul

    All part of the plan… the bankers and the transnational corporations are going to gut this country by way of our politicians that will sell out for trinkets… no surprises here. You have a bulls-eye on you America. They’re coming for it all and no one’s going to stop them.

  • I’m Indian and I totally agree, lots of jobs are flooding on our way but its not the rosy story they depict in America.

    These guys are evil but I swear nowhere close to being stupid…The price they pay us is only MARGINALLY higher than what local companies would pay us…BUT tempting enough to make the move BUT not higher enough for us to retire and live on the beach for ever.

    Its still slavery till I die with a bit more pay to kill two birds with one stone. They are killing Americans as well as Indians softly.

    We need a global human conscious force or something to f**ck these guys for ever. We are on your side…We are basically one…They are playing the classic divide and rule game here.

    India was super rich once and thanks to central banks we are begging now and they want Indians to slave away for Americans and kill good Americans who play by the rules.

    Its very dark really. Not as easy to say….We will just hire Indians….

    Moreover..Here is the secret..some of the jobs…They need Americans…We just CAN’T DO IT…Its not in our VIBE….If they threaten you with Indians…Show them the middle finger…For some Jobs..Americans are a Must….They can only hire us so much…

    • Avner

      How so? It’s not in the vibe.. I’m interested to know more.

      • The whole concept of FIAT MONEY cannot exist Without WHITE PEOPLE…..They need some White People to ATTRACT MONEY,….No racism….The whole structure will fall down in America..if they only hired blacks, Indians, latinos…

        Just know your worth….Without White People…There is No America..No Evil..No Greed….

        Let them come to you….That’s why join forces…

    • sharonsj

      “We need a global human conscious force or something….”

      Yes, it’s called a union. Why do you think the right-wingers are making unions out to be evil money-grubbing “liberals”? Because over the last 200 years it was unions that got workers better wages and benefits. Unions got us a 5-day 8-hr work week. Before that, people worked 7 days a week for 12 hrs a day. Unions stopped child labor. Unions got us sick pay and vacation pay.

      What the big corporations do now is they don’t hire full-time workers anymore. They hire “contract” workers so they don’t have to follow any rules. And they threaten anyone who thinks about joining or starting a union (just look at Walmart).

      • true

      • Mike Smithy

        Why do you suppose so many people have been moved from full time (40 hours per week) to part time (<28 hours per week)? I'll give you a hint. Obamacare!

    • Priya Chatterjee

      Yes, it is not as rosy picture as painted regarding Indians. But India has huge percentage of youngsters. Average age of Indian is 26 years inspite of huge population. MNCs and big corporates in India are also pushing for labour reforms in India as well. IT sector in India also does not have protection of labor unions. BPO sector of USA seems to be handled by Indians and similar nationalities speaking in American accent. Governments generally care for GDP, WPI, CAD, etc buzzwords more Human indices. Also India has to import more than 80% of fuel. So INR is not stronger. Hence Indians whether in India or outside slog with least possible facilities for very marginal increase in payments. May be Americans could think of survival in today’s conditions and force their government ot act in their interest because whatever I read in alternative media conveys sorry state of American middle class similar to Indian middle class. Governments and MNCs will think about thier vested interests and not serve you on platter.

  • Swagato Barman Roy

    It is good to see Michael speaking out against the Keynesian central bankers, the monetary politburo of federal reserve etc. But apparently, just to make your post more appealing to more people, you are veering towards that old tried and tested greedy corporations firing people socialist agenda.

    Businesses run for profits, period. If a Chinese helps me earn more profit for whatever reason, he is more fit to me. Before you continue down the path, admit clearly that you don’t believe in free market capitalism.

    • Avner

      Free market means all the markets are free. The ones in China are slave labor, centrally planned by the CCP. Chinese law you don’t actually own the factory, the Central Committee does. Their advantage is so many pairs of arms to do work, well at least in the factories there that aren’t automated. Don’t forget they tax imports there heavily while they expect no taxes on their junk. And yes, it’s junk. You can’t compare a China made wrench from Harbor Freight with a Snap-On or Hazet. You can’t compare a Chinese made optic with a Trijicon or Schmidt-Bender.

      What you have now aren’t so much a small incorporated, they are borderline monopolies that are basically the government. So, there is nothing socialistic about being a protectionist. Socialists have no allegiance to their country.. their philosophy has always been an internationalist one.

    • True Grit

      Sooner or later you run out of employed consumers for your product. The right way to grow the economy and make more profit is find a way to improve production.
      If you turn your factory into a warehouse, lay off 500 workers
      and import your product from China, you still have 500 workers, Just not American workers.
      You have more profit for a little while but ultimately you have to lower your price because: A) there are less employed consumers to buy your product and B) China will put your product on the market cheaper than you can.
      Propagandists can say what ever they want but the truth can not be hidden. Look where we were economically before China, and where we are now.
      Free market capitalism doesn’t work when you have to compete against a billion and a half hungry slaves. Mercantilism is what worked for 200 years and is working for China now.

    • K2

      ”Businesses run for profits, period”

      And people become outraged and complain when they lose their jobs. Michael and people here are fully justified in their outrage against the corporations. And this is nothing to do with the fed.

    • Gay Veteran

      moron, China has near slave labor wages and NO environmental regulations.
      move to China and BREATHE DEEP

      • Swagato Barman Roy

        Hey bagboy, we already had this conversation about your tribal loyalty somewhere else. I am not going to waste time with a loser again, who refuses to gain skill and become rich. Perhaps you can explain to your friends, bye.

        • Gay Veteran

          yeah, I bet you’re just swimming in money.
          now go lick some korporate CEO’s boot

          • Annoyingandlovingit

            Ooh bringing up your fetishes again

        • K2

          Its the tribe that made america a superpower.

          If you meant something else when you said tribe, ignore my comment.

  • Avner

    “If you were laid off from your job, would you be willing to train your replacement if your company threatened to take away your severance pay if you didn’t do it? ”

    Personally, since I’d be getting shown the door either way… no. In fact, if I did train, it would be the wrong ways to do things and in my line of work where machinery is involved… it’d be costly. Tie breakers aren’t cheap.

    • df NJ

      You do it if they threaten not to give you your severance pay.

      • algol2000

        This is why it is important NEVER to borrow money or be in debt for whatever reason. When they know that you are in debt, you are in trouble.

        • Robert C.

          That is 100% truth. I seen this happen to many people that I personally know and I have learned from their mistakes.

      • Avner

        You might. I wouldn’t.

  • df NJ

    No laws to protect the workers.

    Government by the rich, for the rich, screw the workers!

  • Oh I would train them alright. To do things wrong so it cost the company big time. To hell with them if they think I am going to train my replacement. Apu will become a big problem for them by time I am done

    • df NJ

      When you answer the phone the first thing you say is “Eff you.”

      • tom

        lol

    • Zenithon

      Sure sounds good in theory, but if you have a family to feed, house and insure, and they threaten to take away a pretty good severance package if you don’t comply, you might get in line. As irritating as it sounds, I can understand why some of them put their tails between their legs and put up with the corporate jerks.

      • Max

        Ah yes, for the “American Dream”.

      • In line? Nope.. never. I have covered my tracks for YEARS. Catch me if you can. I don’t fall in line, and i would make sure my replacement was an epic disaster. Don’t pay me? Fine, I have many family members who are labor attorneys and can make the companies life a living hell, as well as taking it to every media source out there.

        • Zenithon

          It is already being reported in most every media source and doesn’t seem to be helping. Also, for the other 99.9% of us that don’t have labor attorney family members and the 90% or so that live paycheck to paycheck, unfortunately the perspective might be a little different. I like your style though.

  • The problem I see is that big corporations can buy cheaper than mom and pop but they never provide a repair for their cheap labor parts

  • df NJ

    Karma is a funny thing. I was working for a place and they cut my pay in very unfair way in my opinion. I was really mad. I made a pretty good argument and the manager said he would do something about it. But he never did. After a couple of weeks I just started looking for a new job. They overhead me on the phone arranging an interview. They said they want me to make a commitment to them. I said I can’t do that. They said we are going to cut your salary more and make you a contractor for 3 months. I said I would go home and think about it. Two hours later they called me up and said they were letting me go. A week later I had a new job.

    About two weeks later the lead manager leaves. Another week later a senior guy leaves. A junior level guy who was very good was the only guy left. I told him if he ever needed a recommendation letter I would write him one. He calls me up and tells me he has two interviews and can I write him a recommendation letter. I wrote him a really good one. A real piece of art. He gets two offers and accepts one of them.

    Now this company had nobody left in my department. A couple of days later I get phone call from the vice president asking me if I had a job. I told him, “Yes, I have a job. Thanks for asking” even though I knew they were desperate. They could have doubled my salary and I would not have taken it. The karma was too sweet!

    When you treat people that badly you never know when you may need to call them back up when you company is desperate. Karma is beotch!

    • squireparty

      I LOVE stories like this. Good on you for the new job and good on you for putting yourself and your needs first!

      • sgtdoom

        Yup, Ameritards just love those stories, especially the ones about American Exceptionalism, and America and white hats and bad guys, and America as the provider of this mysterious democracy.

        So, you do know that 14 million were hacked into by the Chinese because NSA outsourced the Einstein 3 (intrusion detection and protection program) to a private contractor who outsourced the coding to China?

    • Mike

      Karma is another destructive invader from India.

      • K2

        and china and mexico and all other trans-pacific countries.

      • karmaaintso

        Yes karma does not exist. Only sometimes coincidence that makes people think it is karma. If karma existed the elite would not be in power.

      • sgtdoom

        Yup, and the original commenter (df NJ) probably is ignorant of the fact that the concept of karma comes from the Indian religious book where the King is trying to persuade his soldiers to go out and fight the enemy (the dude with the women and land he wants to confiscate) so that greater riches will accrue to the soldiers in their next life should they die in battle!

    • alan

      Awesome!

    • Nexus

      Same here. I worked for a multi-national mega- corporation for decades. when they downsized me (and 60,000 other employees) and replaced us with people off the street with no loyalty or experience I cashed out my stock. I predicted that in one year their stock would lose fifty percent of its value. Yep, it did. I’ve been living just above the poverty level since then, laughing, loving and sleping the sleep of the blessed since then.

      • sgtdoom

        Wonderful, Get-Over Guy lucks out, but that doesn’t change the fact that according to Census Bureau data, one out of every two Americans today qualifies as poor — and pretty soon one of them is likely to mug you, dood!

    • krinks

      Same thing happened to my better half. Laid off as a Night Shift Hospice Nurse. After a few months they discovered she was the only one who would go make a visit at night instead of making a phone call from home with her nightgown and slippers on like everyone else. The HR Dept. Head called begging on numerous voice mails as did a staffing agency they tried to go through. Karma is a dinger.

    • sgtdoom

      Great, and how does that affect all the people whose jobs have been offshored or replaced with foreign visa scab workers?

      So many of the comments here today illustrate why, after thirty-some years of attempting to convince the world’s most retarded population, the species ignoramus americanus, it is hopeless to attempt to get across the fundamental concept that with each job offshored, so goes a piece of the GDP!

      Arithmetic is sooooo haaaarddd for the Ameritard. . . .

  • df NJ

    Listen, everyone relax. As soon as the Chinese Yuan is allow to freely float against the dollar ALL our CEO jobs will be outsourced. Problem solved.

  • Will Rogers

    I’ve already been there. The electronics industry. Get out while you can.

  • Will Rogers

    To all you spouting ‘free market’ and ‘capitalism’ I say where? Certainly not here in the US. More like corporatism and crony capitalism.

  • alan

    I would hope they have fire insurance on magic mountain. I’d try to make it erupt!

  • DJohn1

    I would train them all right! I would train them to do everything wrong as subtle as I could.
    Then I would leave as requested with my severance pay.
    By the time that they figured it out, the job would have cost them millions.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    If the TPP is passed, China will be made a member ASAP. Indeed, the TPP is nothing but a cover story to get China on board. They could not make China a member from the git-go because of the Alarm Bells that would ring. Now, the stage is set. With the TPP you have FREE MOVEMENT of people in the signatory nations. Nations like…Mexico. Nations like China. As a friend of mine put it, what are we going to do when 200MM Chinese move in? We are going to be overwhelmed and made strangers in our increasingly strange land. These are the End Times, people.

    • Maneb

      You said it all.

    • Sandbagger

      Strangers in a strange land…been there! In my old hometown in California. The 1970’s brought the “Asian Invasion” to the Silicon Valley and turned a nice place to live into a strange land. Suddenly we were surrounded at every stop light by foreigners who gave us the evil eye.

      It’s true…you can never go home again. I close my eyes and go home in my memories of a happy childhood before the destruction came.

      • XSANDIEGOCA

        Indeed. I remember another life, another time. We were barely middle class but we had a home, food, a car and a dog. Money was tight. Yet, it was Paradise and we did not even know it.

  • DJohn1

    The fact is that corporations run America. Not just here, every where on the continent. The difference in money, power, connections, everything that is important is in the hands of the moneyed interests right here.
    It becomes a matter of whether or not you as a person will end up on welfare or not.
    It didn’t used to be that way.
    For a while Unions were able to sign contracts with decent wages for people and that formed the Middle Class we all want to belong to.
    They became sloppy and corrupt. The ruling class conspired to get rid of this pain in their neck once and for all. They virtually did it under a number of Republican regimes in the 80s and early 90s.
    The labor board was supposed to be fair. Forget that. It was stuffed with Republican cronies. Laws over generations were upset by this board.
    It used to be that labor unions were in the same camp as the Democrats. Since Clinton betrayed them with trade agreements that allowed GM and others to relocate to Mexico that hasn’t happened. The Democrats are imitating the Republicans with their anti-labor ways.
    It used to be the Republicans claimed Christianity. They sure mouthed a lot of words then voted with Planned Parenthood and abortion.
    It used to be the Democrats were pro-labor. That has gone by the way side as well.
    So now the American Labor Force is being sold down the river at every turn. Surprise! Not!
    Well, in the thirties, it got real violent for a while. The labor force brought out the big guns and shut them all down. Taft-Hartley was supposed to cure that, it didn’t.
    The only way it is likely to ever change is to shut them all down at once nationwide.
    I do not see a labor force with the guts to do any such thing. No individual can fight them successfully. What it is going to take is a change in the laws by which we elect this bunch of jerks.
    That means both parties can get unelected. That means forming new parties that are not in bed with major corporations.
    Until that happens, abomination after abomination will occur.

    • df NJ

      Nice post with lots of thought. We did have rioting in Baltimore. Workers are starting to protest. Every city in this country is a powder keg ready to ignite. People are sick of the economic tyranny and misery. You know how I know that people are ready for a change. Look how well Bernie Sanders did in Wisconsin: “Bernie Sanders (40.7 percent)”. That’s an amazing number for socialist Jew. The way you become a leader is find a parade and step in front of it. The people in this country are sick and tired of being squashed by BIG corporations. Something is building. People are become more desperate everyday. Wage inflation and percentage of people actually employed is just rising way to slowly to prevent the coming explosion. People are not making ends meet. Nobody has enough money to save or pursue happiness. People are becoming really angry.

  • Liberty First

    Disney is no longer on our travel itinerary when visiting our friends in Florida.

    • MiniBooger

      Not only is Disneyland off my itinerary, but I will no longer purchase their movies or merchandise. We need to send a clear message!

      • sgtdoom

        Be careful boycotts can be overturned, as President Clinton did back in the late 1990s, when the tuna industry was being boycotted. (From a WTO ruling)

        Or had you forgotten that?

  • Maneb

    Keep voting Dems. Transforming America into third world fast! You get what others vote for!

    • df NJ

      What is your evidence that the people making the outsourcing choices are Democrats? Most CEOs are Republicans. Most CEOs are not supporting labor rights. Your post does not make any sense. If Democrats were really in charge there would be laws passed preventing companies from forcing workers to train their replacements because it is immoral and destroys human dignity. But the people in Congress care nothing for their oath to our Constitution. Where’s the promote the general welfare and helping people pursue happiness. Instead all we have is government by the rich, for the rich, screw the workers!

      • MiniBooger

        Who is supporting bringing in all of the illegals that drive down our wages? Democrats. Who is drafting “NAFTA on Steroids”? Obama. Who keeps taxing the corporations at the highest rate in the world forcing companies to seek “creative alternatives” to making profits? Democrats. CEOs are only taking advantage of what the Dems are putting into practice.

        • df NJ

          You seem to think Democrats are the
          root cause for all our problems. I think Republicans are just as bad as Democrats. All government is a boondoggle for billionaires. Government by the rich, for the rich, screw the workers!

          Are you arguing Democrats screw workers more than Republicans? Because it seems to me both parties screw the workers equally. You claim corporate taxes are the highest but the corporations actual rates are much lower because of tax breaks. Whether you continue to believe your tax rate delusion or not I think the bigger problem is the Chinese pegging the Yuan 6 to 1 against the dollar. Pegging the Yuan is the biggest thing stealing our jobs.

          With all this outsourcing, it’s just a matter of time before the CEO jobs are outsourced. If wages for American workers continue to collapse at some point we will have mass rioting. Or if the currency collapses we will see laws ending corporations as we know it in this country. After the last depression we saw huge legislative changes.

          People are really angry. Check out this from Oregon:

          Oregon joined 15 other states earlier this week in an official call for Congress to put forth a resolution overturning the Supreme Court’s landmark 2010 Citizens United ruling, which opened the floodgates for vast sums of money to flow into elections.

          With the state Senate’s passage of House Joint Memorial 6, Oregon legislators pushed back against the Supreme Court’s ruling that corporations, limited liability companies and partnerships, unions and other entities are granted the same free speech rights as individuals, which they are now allowed to express by funneling unlimited amounts of cash into super PACs.

          According to the resolution, Congress must propose a constitutional amendment “clarifying the distinction between the rights of natural persons and the rights of corporations” and recognizing “that Congress and state legislatures may regulate all moneys raised and spent for political purposes.”

        • Gay Veteran

          hey Einstein, democrats=republicans

          • MiniBooger

            Your insult only reflects your low level of civility and intelligence.

          • Gay Veteran

            you choose an appropriate screen name, BoogerBrain

          • Annoyingandlovingit

            pedophile

          • Gay Veteran

            thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse

          • Annoyingandlovingit

            Thanks for causing our economic collapse, anti-american traitor

          • Gay Veteran

            thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse…..

          • Annoyingandlovingit

            thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse…..

      • Gay Veteran

        the democratic party of 2015 is NOT the democratic party of 1935, now get back to work peasant

    • Gay Veteran

      hey junior, democrats=republicans

    • Gay Veteran

      democrats=republicans

  • Joe Program

    This happens a lot in the IT world. We’ve been steadily getting replaced for cheaper workers for years. DELL is a company that is famous for doing this. These companies also like to threaten you by not offering a letter of recommendation unless you stay long enough to completely train your replacements.

  • CAWS

    You know I wonder how these four guys for the price of one will afford to live here? US corporations can get them to work for cheap in India because it is less to live there , but if they have to live here [& maybe send home paychecks] then we will have another set of ghettos to deal with in USA. Plus they will certainly overstay their visas.
    Before all the “fair trade” agreements corporations had to pay a living wage because of tariffs to protect our products & workers. Now the rich get richer & the middle class becomes the welfare class. The more dependence the more control. Then they enact laws & get subsidies & tax breaks that make it impossible for the little guy to even start a business to compete.

    • MiniBooger

      I can speak from experience on how they can afford to live. Corporations will subsidize their tenancy in apartment complexes and if the apartment is a 2-bedroom or more, they require 2 or more people to live in the apartment. Coincidentally, these complexes are in close proximity to the working site. So not only are the corporations employing despicable practices, they have the support of the property owners in the community.

  • MiniBooger

    This is PRECISELY what happened / is happening at the company I USED to work at. Fortunately for me, when I got laid off, I didn’t have to train my replacement and suffer that humiliation (but my position was replaced with a contractor). But in subsequent layoffs, the IT personnel were forced to train and had to train for a minimum of 6 weeks. If a manager even suspected that the employee was not cooperating at a level they determined individually, out the door they went without their severance. To add insult to injury, those managers that had a vindictive bone would often make up training scenarios that would guarantee the employee would fail. This was done out of fear for their own jobs. I guess they figured if they sucked up to their management and obtained cost savings by firing without severance, that would win them brownie points. Cowards.

  • ue

    This is not new. This has been happening for decades and not just in America.

    A relative of mine had the exact same thing happen to him when he was living in London- lost his first line support job in a well established IT company where he was forced to train a new cheaper Indian hire.

    The masses will never wake up. Enjoy your NFL, reality tv and junk food.

    • df NJ

      I love the NFL and fantasy football.

      Even if everyone in this country was completely awake according to your exact level of enlightenment nothing would change. The people in power would do everything they can do to preserve their own monarchy or oligarchy.
      If really threaten I bet you our military cabal will fabricate a false flag nuclear attack just to preserve our levels of military spending. Money talks, all our whining is BS. I’m really not sure there’s anything the people can do to fight the status quo.

  • larrythelogger

    There has been so much outrage over this that it has even gotten the attention of the U.S. Senate.

    Wait until the triad “trade deal” that includes TPP is passed by the same senators and congressmen who HELPED Disney, SCE, et al do exactly what they are doing. Whether elephant or donkey, BOTH parties are making sure Disney et al does exactly what they are doing. Letters to your reps is like an Auscwitz Jew writing to Hitler, complaining about being thrown into an oven. You’re the mark because you tend to believe that snake oil will really cure your ailments. As if we’re not already there now, the Obamatrade deal will utterly and completely END the Constitution, period. ZeroHedge had drafts about the TPP a few years ago and screamed about it then. If a TPP nation doesn’t like what you grow in your backyard garden, you WILL be fined, jailed, etc and there will be NO recourse. And Mitch McConnel will smile in the camera along with Hillary and dismiss any complaints about it just like right now.

    • df NJ

      RE: “Letters to your reps is like an Auscwitz Jew writing to Hitler,”

      LOL! Absolutely true!

  • ue

    Also, you people are really ignorant if you believed in the nonsense about the middle class, job security, college, house etc. The American Dream was a lie- it always was and always will be.

    I knew from the young age of 16 how terrible and volatile our economy is and there is no guarantee of a a good paying job for life. I saw it with my family members and their friends. Which is why whenever you work for a company, you must always do the following:

    -Save as much money as you can and NEVER spend on stuff you do not need. You must ALWAYS go into work knowing that today could potentially be your last day.

    -NEVER talk or communicate with women in the workforce. Today’s women are monsters- they will sue you for sexual harrassment if you look at them, get you reported to HR and men are constantly getting the shaft in the workplace. So protect yourself at all costs.

    -F*** the corporation over for as much as you can. Do as little work as you possibly can without it affecting your duration at the corportation.

    -NEVER invest in any private pension schemes provided by your company. There have been many stories where companies have gone broke and taken all of the pensions along with them.

    -NEVER buy a house, car or anything that will hold you down in the long run. Rent, lease and more importantly, do not get married or have kids.

    MGTOW for life…

    • df NJ

      Here’s a really good video on the way things used to be versus the way things are now for workers:

      google Thom Hartmann “The Crash of 2016″

      Thom Harmann is a far left socialist but it’s a pretty good talk on the purchasing power of the dollar and how its declined.

    • Hamish_Hyde

      ‘do not get married or have kids.’

      Are you a member of a Raelean death cult? How are we to defend culture and society against this sort of evil, going forward, if we do not fight and do not perpetuate ourselves? Your are promoting defeat and supplantation by foreigners.

      • df NJ

        God, the father, so loved his children that he choose not to have them in the first place so they would not experience the tyranny of Roman rule.

      • ue

        Don’t start screaming when you lose your job, and now you kids are starving to death. cannot get a job, and you cannot do anything else.

        Thats why there is a huge rise in mass murders and suicides in families across the US.

        • Hamish_Hyde

          You’re the only one screaming as far as we can tell. Take a pill

          • ue

            Sheep…

          • Hamish_Hyde

            Ironic, given that you are the one asking us to accept slaughter and defeat.

          • ue

            No- you automatically choose to accept slaughter and defeat by bringing a child into this world in this day and age.

            You choose to accept slaughter and defeat by getting married in this day and age.

          • Hamish_Hyde

            Your rantings are incoherent.And in the past, people had it way worse. You are a defeatist. You are the enemy.

          • df NJ

            RE: “And in the past, people had it way worse.”

            That’s not true. Google “Inequality in America” and watch the video. Our perception is way different than the reality.

          • Hamish_Hyde

            7 million people ‘disappeared’ during the Great Depression.

          • df NJ

            I’m not sure I get what you are saying on the 7 million. Do you mean by abortion or because of poverty?

          • Hamish_Hyde

            *rolls eyes*

          • df NJ

            Oh come on. I am asking you respectfully what you are talking about.

          • ue

            Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

          • df NJ

            I share his frustration.

          • Hamish_Hyde

            Perhaps you can both share a suicide pact?

          • df NJ

            I agree. We should make suicide legal. Then we could have suicide parlors that make it neat and efficient. I follow the words of Woody Allen who said, “I’m not afraid of death I just don’t want to be there when it happens.”

          • Hamish_Hyde

            It doesn’t need to be legal to be accomplished. Go ahead.

          • df NJ

            I am not brave enough.

          • 2guest2

            you must be the life of the party!

        • df NJ

          Poverty causes more deaths per year than all terrorist attacks ever for all time.

          • ue

            And yet people are still breeding and having kids like its 1950.

            Enjoy the decline…

          • Hamish_Hyde

            They’re not actually. We are in a period of demographic implosion.The opposite of what u say.

          • df NJ

            I agree. If it were not for immigration the US population would be going down. We know from scientific studies in countries with high levels of female literacy population rates go down.

          • ue

            It still does not change the fact there are too many people having kids they cannot afford, nor should they be having because those kids have no future.

            Common sense really…

          • df NJ

            RE: “people having kids they cannot afford, ”

            We have a serious problem with wages in this country. People are just not making enough wages. Your fear about too many kids is not really a problem. Without immigration the USA population is actually shrinking because of poverty.

      • Mick

        You are a fool if you think having children is going to defend and stop the culture of evil that has permeated this country and the world. If anything it just gives them another person/resource to suck the life blood from.

    • rentslave

      Paying rent holds you down.I’ve got 47 years experience with it.

    • Sandbagger

      Your recipe for happiness?

  • Mark Sivad

    I would not go to a university and study for an IT-related degree for this very same reason. As soon as you started to make any decent money, you would become an HS-1 replacement target, guaranteed.

    • df NJ

      IT is very unstable. Maybe having a trade skill will pay just as well and be more stable.

  • A Friend

    Yes and let us not forget the other elephant in the room. How about those students who come to as they say “university” here in the states, get it subsidized by the college due to their “diversity”, get that degree, and then manage to not leave. My old boss, who fell into this category, managed to arrange a “marriage” and ended up having a baby and of course never left the USA after her education. Personally I don’t think they want to leave. It’s nicer here than where they came from.

    Bottom line try as best you can to boycott the companies that are doing this practices.

    So what can the average person do about this TPP deal. Does anyone have an ideas?

    • Jerry C

      God’s Word says that this world is run by the devil and his children. It only gets worse & worse until the Son of God returns to reclaim it. So, the idea is that this world is not our home. Ours is in heaven with the Lord. What can you do? Preach the Gospel and bring as many lost souls to Yeshua haMessiah.

      • truth

        Hate to break it to you but he aint never coming to reclaim nothin. Not in your lifetime, your childrens, lifetime, their childrens lifetimes and your grand and great grand childrens lifetimes.

        • GSOB

          You loved break that news.

          Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

          18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.

      • GSOB

        Actually, the Kingdom is progressive and expands to cover the whole earth in the long run.

        The wheat and the tare grow together until the end. Matthew 13:30

        The earth is His wheat field and He personally takes care of it by taking out the weeds, just like we all do for our turf.

  • sharonsj

    I like that–it got the attention of the U.S. Senate. And who exactly is responsible for these H-1B visas? The damn Congress! This has been going on for years and Congress does nothing. The GOP along with Dem turncoats are too busy–52 attempts to unfund Obamacare, Benghazi, not taxing multimillionaires, repealing the estate tax (not for us peons but for people with $5 million), pushing through TPP, and getting rich from insider info–to bother with jobs for Americans.

    • Mike Smithy

      Sharon, enough with the self righteous indignation. Do you care to guess how many times Warren Buffet and Jeffrey Immelt have visited President Zero in the White House? Way too many times for Zero to feign that he is an advocate for hard working blue collar Americans. While Zero is rubbing shoulders with these robber barrons, do you care to wonder how much GE has paid in taxes? Do you ever ask yourself why Zero opposes the Keystone pipeline which would create thousands of jobs and help ease our dependence on Mideast oil? Perhaps it has something to do with Buffets stake in the railroads and big donations to the Democrat Party. Do you ever stop to ask yourself how Zero’s amnesty program is going to help poor working class Americans to find a job that pays a living wage? The truth is, we are living in a lawless post constitutional republic where fascism rules the day. Enough with the blue team-red team crap because both parties have sold out the American people.

  • Kate Frederickson

    Pawns in a game of chess. The entire world is their play pen. They can make you do anything if you believe them and fall for what they say. It’s like the movie, The Matrix. Hopefully some people will open their eyes because of this! Most never will.

  • Randy Townsend

    Unions love stories like this, as well they should. As much of a mob as unions are, they still advocate for Americans….. Given the choice between the two, unions look better….

    • df NJ

      If unions really had any power then all our jobs would not have been outsourced in the first place.

  • James

    All of these un-employed people will have to reset their lifestyle to a more agrarian lifestyle. Gone are the high paying jobs mentioned in the article. At least if you can buy 5 – 10 acres, you can at least feed yourself and sell what you don’t need. As time goes by, more and more economies will become more localized into theses areas where these small farmers will live and support the local economy , thereby reducing the need for these big corporations causing them to lose their grip on us.

    • df NJ

      310 million people can’t all become subsistence farmers.

      • James

        No, but they can become businesses that serve the farmers. Farming is the only way we will survive.

  • we_have_one_that_can_see

    hey I have a crazy idea,. Lets find out every company that does this, and lets boycott there @ss. you don’t want to hire American,. You don’t want American dollars

  • No disney for us this year. Boycott time.

  • tony newbill

    Paul Ryan’s Pelosi-Esque Obamatrade Moment: ‘It’s Declassified And Made
    Public Once It’s Agreed To’

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/paul-ryans-pelosi-esque-obamatrade-moment-its-declassified-and-made-public-once-its-agreed-to/

    Mike Huckabee says TPA is going to be the vehicle that will approve
    further H1B Visas to bring in foreign workers and LOWER Wages for the BIG Job
    Producers in the USA and this is being pushed by the Big Wall Street Donor
    Class !!!!!

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/01/huckabee-promotes-american-workers-slams-h1b-visa-fraud-and-abuse-by-tech-companies/

    And Fox News is Pushing it too because they are in the Pocket of the
    Wall Street sector too !!!!!!!!!

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/10/fast-track-trade-bill-why-america-must-lead-on-trade.html

    And we wonder why the Middle Class is gone alone with Middle America
    good old fashion working class prideful Americans and deflation in non essentials
    and most real estate markets is being propped
    up with bailouts and subsides ???????

    Its all to try and keep the dollar being used as the Worlds trade
    currency .

  • autofixer

    Don’t worry. Your Indian replacements will be replaced by robots next year. Forward!

    • df NJ

      The artificial intelligence help agent is being developed by an Indian guy.

  • JSB

    And the stock market is rallying big time… I really regret re-allocating my retirement funds to stable value offerings in September 2012. I’ve missed a nearly five thousand point bounce if I use the Dow as a measuring stick.

  • krinks

    Half of the electorate votes for ‘Free Market’ Republicans and this is the end result. They have Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levine, etc. to tell them day after day how wonderful it all is. Hence it will never change. To change it requires people with the intellect to turn off the TV and read something. Never happen.

    • Gay Veteran

      and the other half of the electore votes for “pro-labor” democrats
      democrats=republicans

  • whotothewhat

    I have been planning for this inevitability for years now if it happens, I would not train my replacement, I would tell the powers to be to stick it.

    I am in the tech field and I have to work with the 3rd party foreign call centers all the time. I would let the people I have to support deal with incompetence of my foreign replacement I guarantee it would not be fun.

  • Dave

    This has been the case since the 90s! Nothing new, and everyone knows what is going on! In washington this hase nothing to do with labor shortages or cheader labor! This is all about equalizing economies! For a world economy managed by a world government! The UN, WTO CFR TC, etc all have documents about this! A simple search will reviel that these trade deals are multi level, with the higher levels being unification! You can find this on wikipedia, and these other sites mentioned. All trade agreements are devided into 5 or more stages, with the final stage being unification into 1 of 10 trade unions. The end stage for NAFTA is the NAU. It this is documented! And everyone in power knows this! This is why they are deaf and dumb!

  • davidbyrden

    While training your replacement, be sure to tell him/her about your pay and all your benefits. Make them unhappy to be cheaper than you.

  • Michael Dubin

    It’s good that you are addressing the H1B issue, but this has been going on since 2000, the year the program was implemented. Our taxes are used to fund this program. This is a good example of corporate welfare. Don’t look to the government or mainstream media to address this, are they are owned by the same corporations that are doing this.

  • HC

    Stand Up America, don’t support these violators of the American people

  • Anni Mock

    Solution – BOYCOT THESE COMPANIES~
    Let everyone you know, to let everyone they know (snowball effect)
    If it happened to you, it will likely happen to someone you know next~
    DONT let these jerks bully you~ BOYCOT THEM –
    Pray to God for a new job – Who goes to DISNEY anymore anyway? I live in Orlando and would not go if you gave me free tickets~

  • Spychiatrist

    I’m certain that most of those tech workers that are training their replacements are liberals, so am I supposed to feel sorry for them?

    • Gay Veteran

      nah, they’re just your fellow Americans, s*rew ’em

    • df NJ

      I’m just amazed by how we are so conditioned to label each other. It’s really breathtaking. All you have to do is get on some news outlet and speak with vicious voice some “label” is responsible for everything bad in the world and people will just latch onto it. Labels are power. DIVIDE and GOVERN. There was a time in this country when everyone was an American citizen and respected as such.

      • Spychiatrist

        Agreed…..and then liberals and leftists took it over and ruined it.

        • Gay Veteran

          the conservatives loved them some George W. Bush back in the day.

          democrats=republicans

  • Mike Smithy

    Why do we have an H-1B program when the USA has 93 million capable adults not in the workforce?
    Twenty-two (22) years ago, I sent a $450.00 check to the former INS in an effort to sponsor my sister-in-law to come to America from the Philippines. She is still waiting in line. How is this fair? Why do so many uninformed Americans both Republican and Democrat believe that it is OK for illegal aliens to cut to the front of the line?

    • Randy Townsend

      Mike, Philippine immigrants are not going to deliver the sheer # of votes both parties lust after, the Constitution be damned. It’s about political power, as the blacks and union members (soon to be discarded in favor of the mexicans) are going to discover.

  • Gay Veteran

    man, you are really gullible if you think the korporations aren’t abusing the system to s*crew over the American worker

    • Annoyingandlovingit

      says the guy who abused the system to s*crew over normal family and religions to flaunt his filthy habits

      • Gay Veteran

        thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse.

        • Annoyingandlovingit

          Thanks for causing our economic collapse, Jew-hating bigot

          • Gay Veteran

            thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse….

          • Annoyingandlovingit

            thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse….

  • Gay Veteran

    you are really gullible if you think the korporations aren’t abusing the system to s*crew over the American worker

    • Annoyingandlovingit

      repeats the guy who abused the system to s*crew over normal family and religions to flaunt his filthy habits

      • Gay Veteran

        thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse..

        • Annoyingandlovingit

          Thanks for causing our economic collapse, babykilling pedo

          • Gay Veteran

            thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse…

          • Annoyingandlovingit

            thanks for contributing to the discussion about our economic collapse…

  • Seen2013

    Many employers including McDonald’s does things like this; the difference is at places like McDonald’s you won’t be leaving on good terms and thus not to be rehired anytime in the future.
    It’s nothing new; it’s been going on since before 2001. It simply wasn’t widespread, and there was always the ‘disgruntled employee’ argument many people took to mean the complaint held no ground to stand on.

    • Seen2013

      To clarify, if you’re not logged as eligible to be rehired, it means your former employer won’t give you a good work history reference increasing your chances of difficulty finding new employment.

  • EP

    I WAS TOLD I WAS GOING TO BE REPLACED BY THE NEW MANAGERS SON. (WAS TOLD HE WAS A DRUGGIE & IN/OUT OF JAIL) I SHOWED UP THE 1ST DAY OF NEW MGMT. AND WALKED OFF. THEY DIDNT PAY MY VAC./SICK TIME I WAS OWED. THEY WERE SEWED AND I COLLECTED 3X ORIG. AMOUNT OWED.

  • Priya Chatterjee

    All Americans please look back into the history 5 – 6 centuries back. Your ancestors killed original native Americans which you call Red Indians, destroyed Aztec, Inca, Maya civilizations, exploited and enslaved Africans and brought them to America. These crimes have been committed by your ancestors which were from European countries like England, France, Spain, Greece, Portugal, Netherlands etc. So basically you all are immigrants which are now suffering because of new immigrants. But after all ‘What goes around, comes around’ the Karma concept. Also I find it very funny people saying that they don’t believe in Karma. Karma in Sanskrit means actions or deeds. So it cannot happen that one does not believe in action, because nothing is static. Even the dead body rots.

    • Billy

      What your saying is true but most people have no problem with foreign workers provided they are paid the same wages and conditions as local workers.Lets raise the living standard worldwide not lower it

    • M.

      Yes, better if the Aztecs had been left in peace to continue their devil-worship, human sacrifices and cannibal feasts. Enough of this cultural Marxist agit-prop. European colonialism was a blessing to the natives in most cases, the misdeeds of certain individuals notwithstanding. I suggest you read Kipling’s poem the White Man’s Burden, there’s quite a lot of truth in it. If you yet persist with your vilification of the greatest civilization that has ever existed, then you ought to stop using your computer, stop travelling by means of motorized transport or railway, stop making use of electricity and if you take ill, don’t go to a modern hospital, as these are all inventions of the evil white man. After all you wouldn’t want to contaminate yourself now would you?

  • Billy

    American workers need to get organised and work as a collective

  • Demonocracy

    If it can be shown and be proven that employers violated the H1-B
    program, then why don’t the displaced workers file a class action
    lawsuit?

  • sth_txs

    The social contract between and employee and employers has been broken for sometime now. I don’t see any point in 2 weeks notice unless you have some co workers you like. Even in the white collar world companies want take advantage of the salaried people and have them work for free. Not like you get anything in return ever. Couple that with the oppressive tax burden so you can feed those who can’t or won’t do for themselves along with the illegals.

  • Tiger58

    Boycott anything Disney. They must know that there is a price to pay for their outrageous actions.

  • Chuck

    You need to write about jade helm.

  • Sandbagger

    Makes sense Disney owns purveyors of fantasy and make-believe, right?

  • Sandbagger

    Blackmailing Corporations.

    If ALL the employees got together and sued for blackmail, it would send a loud and clear message that American workers are NOT going to be taken for doormats.

    By rolling over and accepting the severance package as payment for training your cheaper replacement, you’re agreeing to be blackmailed.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    Globalism is a bottomless pit of misery. Globalists will outsource Banana Republic of America jobs to México, then leave México for Guatemala or Honduras when they decide that the Mexican minimum wage is too generous. And if they decide that Guatemalans are overpaid, they’ll be looking to Bangladesh or Haiti. But globalists are the first ones to bitch and whine when they come face to face with Third World desperation and it smacks them right in the mouth. It’s always funny as hell when a clueless globalist CEO who can’t even speak rudimentary Spanish shows up in Guatemala City or Pedro San Sula to check on the call center then gets a taste of the Desperate People Doing Desperate Things Tax and can’t for the life of him figure out why he’s being kidnapped, robbed at gunpoint, carjacked, etc. The thug life is no joke in a lot of banana republics, and when a CEO finds himself bound and gagged in a car trunk in a slum neighborhood in Pedro San Sula, the thugs who kidnapped him might pick up a tire iron and have fun trying to beat the smug arrogance and entitlement out of him. And don’t think the policías will run to Mr. CEO’s rescue. Many of them are being paid off by the thugs.

    So where is all this hell going? Nowhere good. And if you think things are bad in the BRA now, just wait until Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama shoves the TPP down our throats with the help of Republi-Cons and Democraps in Congress. The misery will only accelerate in The Banana Republic of America, rotting empire of the Third World.

    • Orange Jean

      As always, I appreciate your clear and honest comments. I’ve not lived in one of those places, but I’ve been to a few places in Mexico and seen what you talk about. I’ve also had a few friends from some of these places and they tell horror stories about what life was like where they came from.

      For example, I was involved with a man from Honduras for a few years. He came here legally when his mother met and married a Puerto Rican guy who was able to bring her and her kids to the US. Previously she worked as a prostitute on one of the banana plantations. Jose was very smart, but didn’t have much education, which limited the types of jobs he could get. He worked driving a garbage truck in Boston; a lot of Americans would turn their nose up at a job like that, but he LOVED his job, because at least he had one and could earn a lot more than where he came from.

      • El Pollo de Oro

        Orange Jean: One of the ironic things is that México has a problem with illegal immigration on its southern border. A lot of illegales from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador in Central America are living in México illegally, and the coyotes make money smuggling them in. The violent crime problem in those countries is staggering. Pedro San Sula in Honduras makes Detroit and Camden seem peaceful by comparison.

    • RageHard84

      LOL imagine “American” (used loosely in this context, globalist types think of themselves as “global citizens”) going to isolated Third World villages where they don’t speak English.
      To be fair, there are college-educated folks who speak English in some Third World places, like Kenya, South Africa, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, and India. But my guess is college-educated folks will be working tech and engineering jobs, not minimum wage.

  • Lazarovic

    Well, good news, the Dems are revolting against the President’s TAA and thus the TPP is in peril now. Outstanding. Now let’s get rid of H1B visas, reverse Citizens United, and reinstall Glass-Steagall.

  • CharlesH

    You know what I could grasp with no problem? The nearest pencil or letter opener and shove it deep into the chest of the nearest supervisor I could find. I’m not the type to be able to handle that type of humiliation.

  • willkes

    Not a snowballs chance I would train the new (cheaper) guy… I can always go home to Mom and Dad’s if I have to. I hope that never happens, but a person has to draw the line somewhere.

  • GSOB

    What a warning sign this is.
    Nothing to be afraid of.
    Look to the Lord and He will take care of you.
    This is not a false alarm.
    Its a test.

    Remember Job?

    • GSOB

      The Apostle Paul writes
      1 Corinthians 1:29-31…
      ….so that no man may boast before God.
      But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, so that, just as it is written,
      “LET HIM WHO BOASTS, BOAST IN THE LORD.”
      &

      • GSOB

        Romans 2:29

        But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

  • Ken_of_Texas

    You know what should be done. If your job is transferred overseas or replaced by one of these immigrants. The government should have funds set aside for the displaced worker to pay off his/her mortgage, plus a few years of salary to boot. If over the age of 45 and displaced, be able to qualify to collect full Social Security benefits with medicare.

    • GSOB

      Yeah, and just wait for the police force to be run by the Federal government, to contain the fallout.

  • GetReal4U2

    Here…I will “train” you…(wink)…

  • Ken

    Actually, the funniest thing is management does not really know corporate culture overseas. Sure, they might start off cheap, but they demand for their salaries to double each year. If they do not, the trained employee then leaves for another position and the company has to train another outsourced employee. Once they replace all the workers, upper management is shocked to find themselves replaced by cheaper outsourced management. Happened several times at my company. By the way, US companies are betraying the US and incorporating themselves in another country to avoid paying taxes. It has to do with the foreigners running the company. Once we close the H1B loophole and make sure no foreign companies can operate in the US, corporate culture in the US has to return to ideals set here or be banned from operating in this country.

  • Priszilla

    So? What would be the alternative? The government regulating employment? Wouldn’t that be communist? LOL

  • Jean-Baptiste Moquelin

    Most of the commenters on this site are free-marketeers. Well, these stories are what you get when you let the free market rip in the XXIst century globalized world. Capitalists see an unbalance in the world labour market and go about taking advantage of it. Free markets at work! If this is destroying what used to be called the middle class in the developped world, well, so be it is the consensus. Yes, governments are letting this take place, but that is all according to the Gospel of efficient economies and markets and removing barriers to trade. Ordinary people who care about their countries have no defenders among mainstream political parties, in Europe or America. The left which used to be defenders of the working class has abandoned them. New Labour in the UK, Socialistes in France, Democrats in the US, these days all those parties care about is good pensions for civil servants, the fate of refugees and illegal immigrants and the rights of gays and transgendered. They are all on board with globalization, collecting contributions from corporations as a side benefit for being Serious about economic matters. They sneer at actual workers, who probably view their agenda with suspicion. The right which traditionally was pro-business but also defending patriotism now stands for international big business and mass immigration. Conservatives in the UK or Canada, republicans in the US, UMP in France, they are all OK with offshoring manufacturing in what used to be called the industrialized world if it helps corporate profits. They sneer at anyone expressing discomfort as they see the country they grew up in turn increasingly strange, hispanic in southwestern US, muslim in Europe. National interests, national languages and communities? For mainstreal political parties from either the left or the right, these are all quaint irrational constructions to be bulldozed in the interest of unfettered financial flows and human rights.

    • djc

      This is an excellent assessment.

  • Priszilla

    Why would I want to work for an American company, which doesn’t have paid sick leave and only 11 days paid holidays? Let the shareholders work if they want to earn money!

    • Orange Jean

      Why would you want to work in England? Let the royals work if they want to earn money!

      PS Not all American companies have bad benefits… and I have never worked any job in my country that didn’t have at least some paid sick leave and some vacation time… in addition to holidays (which, BTW, can differ by where you live). There are Federal holidays yes, but for example… if you work in the city of Boston you also get Bunker Hill Day as a paid holiday… eh, that would be the day the British left Boston.

      • Priszilla

        In UK gays can marry. One reason to live here. My partner can work here. I have paid sick leave and 25 days paid vacation each year in addition to the public holidays like Christmas and Easter.
        Not much crime where we live.

  • Battlesheep

    This abuse has been going on for decades. About 1990, at the end of the cold war, there were massive layoffs in the aerospace industry. Jobs for engineers were still plentiful in California but each advertisement listed a salary that was half (or less) of the prevailing salary for engineers in that state. They were clearly hunting for foreign (H1-B) workers.

    The result has been a catastrophe for the country. Both national security wise and economically. That’s why we have an F-35 fighter that has cost (so far) over 3 Trillion to develop and they don’t expect to get it working right until about 2021.

    Don’t expect the bozos in Washington to do anything about it.

    • df NJ

      The people in power do not believe in national governments. They want one world government with one central bank. We may have won the Revolutionary Battle but we still lost the nation state war to the monarchy. The majority of the people in this country are apolitical. The people who do care are just not waking up fast enough to make any real difference. Our Congress is useless. Our President is a puppet. Foreign interests control our military. Name one thing in the last 50 years that has been created or built in this country that gives you a sense of national pride. I rest my case.

      • DB200

        Humvees?

  • Undecider

    I’m pretty sure these H-1B programs were created to ultimately gut the American workforce. All part of the deindustrialization.

  • Orange Jean

    I lived in Anaheim for a while and let me tell you there are stories about the Disney Corporation that would make you hair stand on end (and I suspect Walt himself is rolling over in his grave horrified)! They are one of the most corrupt companies I’ve ever heard of, and I have not every supported them in any way since the late 80s, when I first learned about that.

    There was a book written about that company once, don’t know the name… but I remember hearing that one of the ways they got the land to build Disneyland in Florida was… there was land available from the government that was being sold cheap to low income people. Disney send off some of their very low paid employees (whose income qualified them) to buy chunks of land that later became Disneyland.

    • sgtdoom

      We exist in the Corporate Fascist State — all the companies are corrupt.

      Aaron Feuerstein is dead, I believe. (And so is George Westinghouse, and most employers today are like the vile Thomas Edison, or didn’t you know about him?)

  • Peter

    What companies in the U.S. are doing this? As far as I am concerned if the company wanted my severance pay because I will not train my replacement the company can keep my severance pay.

    • Peter

      I see what companies are doing this to there workers. Shame on these companies.

  • Km

    Commented on this years ago, but nobody wanted to believe it! Well, here we are now!! BTW, if you train your (illegal) incorrectly, the company will soon discover what you did, and bye-bye severance, or any other compensation! I think class action lawsuits and protests are in order, and definitely don’t buy that product! Make them go bankrupt like their doing to us!!

  • tacoma

    In a pure capitalist society like America there is only one economic goal – profit maximization. This is why Congress, when asked by corporations to help them spit out more profit created the H-1B visa for temporary foreign workers. Yes temporary but there is no enforcement. With low wage temporary workers there is also no need for benefits and comply to rules that cost money. The perfect tool to replace permanent workers, domestically!

    In a pure socialist society there is only one economic goal – people well-being maximization. But America hates socialism. They don’t want their well-being.

    So Americans voted in politicians to implement and maintain its capitalist private enterprise system, which today has become the world’s purest where profit reigns supreme.

    So why all the complaint?

    • df NJ

      Someday maybe even you will be down and out and then you will understand what that means.

  • Steve

    Once again, I think we need to be clear about this. I fully agree with Michael’s take on this, but the Republicans are virtually unanimous that TPP is a great idea. Many Democrats oppose it. Is this all theater? No doubt, but Big Business and Shareholder Value are quintessential Republican BS. Obama is the Trojan Horse salesman. As Quigley openly admitted in Tragedy and Hope, the globalists control both sides and the elections are just scenery to con the voters. Hillary v Jeb? Two crime families who have been in league with each other for decades. Just don’t think that Rand Paul is going to save us, either. Another controlled opposition creep.

  • sherlock32555

    We need to find out which companies are doing this and not shop there anymore. These people don’t understand until it hurts the bottom line. Does anyone know which companies are doing this?

  • Jean-Baptiste Moquelin

    Boycotting the company responsible or leaving it up to the individual employee do not seem to be most effective here. These cases look like flagrant violations of the H-1B program. “The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) is responsible for ensuring that foreign workers do not displace or adversely affect wages or working conditions of U.S. workers” says wiki, so it should be possible to file a complain. But this requires resources and time which are probably too much for one person. I am not a big fan of unions, but this is one case where they could come in handy.

    • df NJ

      I’ve heard it argue by H-1B visa proponents that this is not a zero sum game. That with H-1B workers create a larger pie and more jobs for everyone. I’m not sure I agree with this argument because most hiring managers, at least in IT, think Americans are stupid and generally are not as smart as their foreign competition.

      When I got my first job at RCA out of college some of my coworkers had been with RCA for 25 and 30 years. And then GE came in bought the place and closed divisions in the 80s. What the heck has happened to this country?????

      I am just stunned by how much our country has lost its national pride. What has been built in the last 20 years in this country that gives you a sense of pride to be an American? If you watch classic films its just amazing who we are now compared to who we were back then in the 30s, 40s, and 50s.

  • sgtdoom

    Great article, but please . . . let’s be clear about at least one thing:

    The original intent of the H-1B temporary worker visa program was to allow U.S. companies to import foreign workers to do jobs that they were unable to fill with American workers.

    As one of many activists who have spent thousands of unpaid hours actively lobbying against the offshoring of American jobs, which entails foreign visa scab workers, trained for future offshoring, etc., since 1980, the original intent was the offshoring of American jobs, the replacement of American workers, the lowering of wages, and the dismantling (leveraged buyout) of the American economy.

    Period!

    That was the original intent!

    Always has been.

  • sgtdoom

    You just educated (hopefully) an American.
    This could be an official miracle?
    Thanks.

  • Stephanie Sharf

    If you are that humiliated then walk out and don’t take the severance. Yes you may lose your house or apt. Move in with friends or family for a while if you can. There comes a time to stand up for yourself, and don’t tell me “I have bills to pay, kids to feed, etc.” if that is so then cooperate and don’t complain, you can’t have it both ways. The company is not chaining you to your desk, you are free to walk out.

  • smoke57

    What will happen when people can no longer afford all of the gadgets built and designed by this foreign labor? I recently went to Walmart. As my luck always seems to run, I was behind somebody in line who had a problem getting their food stamp card to work. So what do they do next? They pull out a brand new iPhone 6 to call somebody to see if they can use their credit cards. They did pay with their credit card and left the store. I saw them out in the parking lot putting their groceries in a brand new Buick SUV.

    • df NJ

      Are you sure it was a food stamp card? Maybe it was her boyfriends Buick and she has to blow him every night.

      • smoke57

        That very well might be the case.

  • DB200

    What happened is that a department with expensive knowledge workers was performing very good without any hiccups or glitches to the work delivered. So the beancounters – er, managers – started to think: we are paying a lot of money for easy stuff. Anyone can do that. And the rest is history. But they forget that there is a thing called tacit knowledge. This is something you learn over the years, not in a couple of weeks training. So very well problems may arise the coming months that will cost Disney lots and lots of money (if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys).

    What every knowledge worker should know is that occasionally he or she should create problems to such an extent that managers are starting to fear that things go horribly wrong (but don’t realize that the problem was created) and are releaved when the same knowledge worker (or team) gets this problem under control just in time. Suddenly management realizes that they are dependent on the knowledge workers. The knowledge worker then takes the manager hostage.

    Kinda like the fire department starting a fire …..

  • Karie

    I was going to suggest training your replacement in a nefarious way but I see Mike Smithy stated exactly what I was thinking.

  • Silver Savior

    It does not surprise me at all. We all know where everything is headed. Down the toilet. People are desroying themselves.

  • Silver Savior

    I would just take the severence package and go on disability for stress. Would be the best thing ever.

  • JeffS

    By agreeing to train, you only helped them destroy you. Like paying taxes.

  • Cvc

    A country that has healthcare which is run for a profit ( as Michael Moore once noted) has no heart. This is just another consequence of a very long trend. Pray to the Mammon. Capitalism gone wild. Charity is expected to be voluntary and by individuals instead of part of government programs, which is how the Europeans do it.

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